From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 11 11:25:54 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 823D016A476 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2007 11:25:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9813213C45B for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2007 11:25:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l7BBPjbB001447 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2007 13:25:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id l7BBPjVq001444 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2007 13:25:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 13:25:44 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070811131633.X1392@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: ZFS - no thanks! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 11:25:54 -0000 just ended testing. after having all my data (test system fortunately) on ZFS including root, i lost /boot partition, which was on pendrive to make testing easier. well - no problem - i've started my normal 6.2 syste, got bootonly CD, removed mfsroot, added (as on ZFS system) vfs.root.mountfrom="zfs:tank/root", put tu pendrive, bsdlabel -B etc.. started.. it CANNOT mount zfs. well - i don't have live CD the only thing left was 7.0 livecd but amd64 only. well - i have qemu. started qemu with this image, added -hda with my ZFS disk, started. got to fixid, kldload zfs.ko zfs import - well all's fine zfs import -f tank after some time done tried any command - looks like no libraries. well - probably it overmounted / from zfs... next reboot now zfs import -R /mnt -f tank and it's waiting forever. doing nothing, both CTRL-C and CTRL-Z doesn't work. it's doing nothing as i see that qemu uses almost no CPU. "EXCELLENT" filesystem with "excellent" protection of my data!!!! on the other hand it's faster over UFS on small files but not that faster. it uses HUGE amount of RAM. it's set copies=n is a joke. you have no warranty where are the copies (often on the same disk). zpool scrub DOES NOT move copies to other disk from the same when other is made available!! raidz can't be expanded cache flushing CAN NOT be disable for selected device, only for everything. my USB-IDE converter make doesn't allow it, but my 2.5" does! i use USB-IDE converted with disk as a backup. with ZFS it's impossible unless i will turn off flushing for everything - losing it's important adventage. disks based pool (no mirror/raidz) won't start AT ALL with one element unattached!!! EVEN if everything has copies>1 !!! summary: excellent idea turned into pile of s...t no thanks