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Date:      Sat, 7 Oct 2006 07:06:34 -0400
From:      "Jim Stapleton" <>
Subject:   Re: Newbie Question - looking for suggestions of small ports to install on stand-alone system without internet connection
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On 10/6/06, ograbme <> wrote:
> I would like a few recommendations for small "ports" to try to install
> on my stand-alone machine.
> The stand-alone machine does not have connection to the internet;
> however, I do have a set of four (4)CD from the FreeBSD Mall and two
> (2) of the CD's have 'ports' on them.  I would like to select one, two
> or three ports to install on this machine ... to go through the steps
> and experience of the ports process using the cdroms, sooooo ... in
> essence I'm looking for suggestions of ports of a small nature (if
> there is such a thing).

I'm not sure how familiar you are with Unis operating systems or the
various tools available for all of it's incarnations, so, I'm listing
these with info as if you were completely new to it. If you are not, I
do not mean any insult or offense, I just don't know your level of
experience, so I'm going for something relatively low that would give
you a wide range of "sights and sounds" in the desktop *nix world. If
you aren't /that/ new, just look at my list, and pick and choose your

Ideally, you would want to install ports that you could make use of
more than ports that are small. Even the larges ports rarely cause me

For small starts:
"bash" - already suggested, very good shell
"nano" - light weight and useful text editor
"pico" - like nano, but made before or after, can't remember which
"vim" - again, already suggested, good text editor, though not to my
taste. It is lightweight and fast, though not to the extent of
"sudoku" - I prefer pencil and paper because you can make notes, but it's fun
"naim" - a console IM program

intermediate projects:
"emacs" - another popular editor, the largest (in size, not popularity
- don't know what is the most popular) of the bunch, but I know people
who get a lot of work done only starting one program *ever*, this is
that program. It uses a large amount of resources for just a text
editor, but you can do a lot more with it, and on a modern machine,
that large amount is still relatively neglegable.
"xorg" - an X (graphics) server, which will be extremely useful if you
want more than a console command prompt.
"gaim" - a multi-im client. quite useful, it could actually be in
"small" projects, but you need X installed before hand.
"gnome" - this is between intermediate and larger projects, a good and
popular desktop/session manager, again, not to my taste, for as much
smaller as it is, it runs slower than KDE on my systems. Nonetheless,
a lot of people like it, and you should give it a try.
* - Just about anything in the games directory

Big projects
"KDE" - like gnome, but more friendly to the people who like gui
configuration, less friendly to those who like text configuration. I
find it faster, but that could be because I have a lot of memory on
all my machines - it's definetly larger. Might be the whole space for
speed tradeoff that you can sometimes do, I don't know. Regardless, be
prepared for a challange, you may not (read: probably won't) be able
to get the full KDE running due to some apps not compiling. Read the
updating file, and you may have to try kde-lite.
"" - a nice office suit, be prepared for a
challange! Now, you may need a few java packages that won't be on the
CDs for this - which you'll have to download elsewhere and put on
either a CD or a flash drive.

Have fun,
-Jim Stapleton

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