Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 10:50:43 -0500 From: John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org> To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.org Cc: "Jason C. Wells" <jcw@highperformance.net> Subject: Re: The beastie boot menu. Message-ID: <200412011050.43955.jhb@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <E4CA6BE85D4FCB85D8F84193@[192.168.1.16]> References: <20041129024602.GA23324@turingmachine.mentalsiege.net> <xzpis7nheik.fsf@dwp.des.no> <E4CA6BE85D4FCB85D8F84193@[192.168.1.16]>
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On Tuesday 30 November 2004 08:09 pm, Jason C. Wells wrote: > --On Tuesday, November 30, 2004 10:28 AM +0100 Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav > > <des@des.no> wrote: > > "Jason C. Wells" <jcw@highperformance.net> writes: > >> The beastie menu is just another level of complexity. It has very > >> little to do with anything. I had to learn about Forth in order to > >> figure out how to turn it off. > > > > You can't have learned much if you think > > > ># echo 'beastie_disable=3D"YES"' >> /boot/loader.conf > > > > has anything to do with Forth. > > The point was that the boot menu doesn't add anything to the usability and > that in at least one case, it was an unwelcome distraction. The deletion > of the menu is of little significance to regular users. I didn't even kn= ow > such a thing existed until I recently did my first work on the console in > several years. In fact, I haven't even looked to see if my remaining 4X > boxes have this menu. If I would have done my upgrade to 5X yesterday > rather than a month ago, I would never have known that the darned thing > ever appeared in the system. > > It's just not important, not even to regular users. The claim that FreeB= SD > is not suitable to regular users because the beastie menu is gone is sill= y. You must not have any systems where ACPI or the APIC support is broken. Fo= r=20 people with those issues and those of us who work with them to debug those= =20 issues, the menu was a large step forward in usability. For my personal te= st=20 machines I simply added 'beastie_disable=3DYES' to /boot/loader.conf. Not = a=20 major deal to turn it off if you don't want it. =2D-=20 John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org> <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" =3D http://www.FreeBSD.org
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