From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 16 04:53:45 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id EAA28125 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 04:53:45 -0700 Received: from ibmPCUG.CO.UK (mmdf@Alice.ibmPCUG.CO.UK [192.68.174.71]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id EAA28119 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 04:53:42 -0700 From: jake@ibmPCUG.CO.UK Received: from kate.ibmpcug.co.uk by alice.ibmPCUG.CO.UK id aa07969; 16 Apr 95 12:53 BST Subject: using a serial mouse? To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 12:53:29 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL2] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 502 Message-ID: <9504161253.aa07440@kate.ibmpcug.co.uk> Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk can a serial mouse be used with FreeBSD for XFree86? I see /dev/ttyd0 and ttyd1 but the mouse, when attached to com0 seems to generate nothing. I need a mouse to start the server, linking /dev/mouse to /dev/ttyd[01] gets it started but I can't move the cursor. the docs with XFree86 say do : sh MAKEDEV tty00 that doesn't seem to make tty00 -- Jake Dias jake@ibmpcug.co.uk ...!ibmpcug!jake My PGP Key? - finger jake@ibmpcug.co.uk or email with Subject: get pgp key From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 16 05:33:51 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id FAA28725 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 05:33:51 -0700 Received: from specgw.spec.co.jp (specgw.spec.co.jp [202.32.13.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA28719 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 05:33:47 -0700 Received: from localhost (uucp@localhost) by specgw.spec.co.jp (8.6.5/3.3Wb-SPEC) with UUCP id VAA22101; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 21:26:58 +0900 Received: by tama.spec.co.jp (8.6.11/6.4J.5) id RAA00434; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 17:12:08 +0900 From: Atsushi Murai Message-Id: <199504160812.RAA00434@tama.spec.co.jp> Subject: Re: PPP Setup, Tunnel Drivers and the rest To: nc@ain.charm.net (Network Coordinator) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 17:12:08 +0900 (JST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Network Coordinator" at Apr 11, 95 09:40:26 pm Reply-To: amurai@spec.co.jp X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 847 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I'm having a problem running/setting up PPP on this system, when slip > works perfectly. Whenever I try to run the PPP process, ppp returns "no > tunnel device available. open_tun: no such file or directory". The kernel > has been compiled with support for 5 ppp and 5 tunnel drivers. > > What am I doing wrong? the PPP faq gives them impression that just run > ppp, set a few options and boom, I'm about 6 steps in front of the "boom" > and can't get past the "run ppp" part. > > Any suggestions or ideas? Do you have a /dev/tun0 on your system ?. if not just do a "sh MAKEDEV tun0". > Thanks a million, > > -Jerry. Atsushi. (I just return back to this world, today ;-) -- Atsushi Murai Internet: amurai@spec.co.jp System Planning and Engineering Co,.Ltd. Voice : +81-33833-5341 From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 16 05:52:32 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id FAA29036 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 05:52:32 -0700 Received: from kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA29030 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 05:52:31 -0700 Received: from mailbox.mcs.com (Mailbox.mcs.com [192.160.127.87]) by kitten.mcs.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id HAA22040 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 07:52:29 -0500 Received: by mailbox.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Sun, 16 Apr 95 07:52 CDT Received: by mercury.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Sun, 16 Apr 95 07:51 CDT Message-Id: Subject: SB-Pro w/ cd-rom? To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 07:51:51 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike Perry" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 310 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I was wondering if SoundBlaster Pro CD-ROM interface will be supported in the new 2.1 release of FreeBSD. All that really matters to me is that I will be able to install FreeBSD using the CD provided by walnut creek, I don't care if I can mount the CD under UN*X (although it would be pretty cool.... :) ) From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 16 06:18:39 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA29961 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 06:18:39 -0700 Received: from specgw.spec.co.jp (specgw.spec.co.jp [202.32.13.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA29953 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 06:18:34 -0700 Received: from localhost (uucp@localhost) by specgw.spec.co.jp (8.6.5/3.3Wb-SPEC) with UUCP id WAA22232; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 22:05:34 +0900 Received: by tama.spec.co.jp (8.6.11/6.4J.5) id VAA03781; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 21:56:19 +0900 From: Atsushi Murai Message-Id: <199504161256.VAA03781@tama.spec.co.jp> Subject: Re: PPP log message help! To: edebruin@kathryn.mikom.csir.co.za (Etienne de Bruin) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 21:56:18 +0900 (JST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199504121132.NAA00270@kathryn.mikom.csir.co.za> from "Etienne de Bruin" at Apr 12, 95 01:32:39 pm Reply-To: amurai@spec.co.jp X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 806 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Unknown protocol 0x802b > Unknown protocol 0x802b > Unknown protocol 0x802b It is not in supported protocol list for current ppp. And I can't make sure this protocol in handy. And worse a PPP didn't try to send to reject messages to peer at all in hdlc.c. So peer forcely try to this one unless a peer gives up using this protocol by retry counts... > Please could anyone help me - some interpretation. Check your "peer" protocol capability list and then turn off a "0x802b" until PPP fixing or supported ;-) > eT > -- > Etienne de Bruin, MIKOMTEK/CSIR, Republic of South Africa > Somebody, Somewhere is gonna Praise His Name. Atsushi. -- Atsushi Murai Internet: amurai@spec.co.jp System Planning and Engineering Co,.Ltd. Voice : +81-33833-5341 From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 16 09:52:56 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA06332 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 09:52:56 -0700 Received: from netcom5.netcom.com (pascal@netcom5.netcom.com [192.100.81.113]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA06326 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 09:52:55 -0700 Received: by netcom5.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id JAA02086; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 09:52:39 -0700 Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 09:52:39 -0700 From: pascal@netcom.com (Richard A Childers) Message-Id: <199504161652.JAA02086@netcom5.netcom.com> To: dale@northcoast.com, questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: restoring whole system from tape Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "... I backed everything up on tape (ft0) ... Then I restored all my old files (everything from / down) from tape. ... now I can't log in ..." "How can I get back into my system? Or, alternatively, what's the correct way to restore my system from tape?" I have been remiss in not posting this ... but I've been working with the ft(1) driver, also, evaluating backups, and I've seen some problems. Not with the ft(1) driver, so much as with the QIC-80 / DC2120 tapes that the ft(1) driver relies upon. To summarize : a perfect backup may be seriously flawed and useless. But, there are methods by which this may be objectively verified, and there are also methods by which this may be countered. To wit : I tried making a tar(1) tape, using ft(1). Being a somewhat untrusting soul, I subsequently extracted the tar(1) image into a proximate directory in the same filesystem and ran a diff -r against the two hierarchies, stripping out the string "^Common subdir" for the sake of convenience. There were lots of problems. Corresponding to the lots of problems were some error messages to /dev/console regarding retries and ECC errors. I mention this because it may not be habit of everyone here to watch their system con- -soles. ( Personally, I have a crontab entry which prints system uptime every half hour to /dev/console, so I can also track *when* errors occurred, and be better able to correspond between my own system operations and the errors. A tip of the hat to Tim Radzykewycz for this idea ... ) -=8=- The problem is that neither tar(1) nor dump(8) report these errors, so if one is merely reading a log collected from stdout(), or watching the screen, one sees nothing but a flawless archival. However, the same test I've used in other Unix environments to verify media afterwards works great with FreeBSD and ft(1), too. # ft | dd of=/dev/null If there is interest I can post a very simple script I've written that uses the archival method of your choice ( tar(1) or dump(8) ), creates a log of the entire process to disk ( for time-motion-throughput analyses ), and, best of all, does a dd(1) of the tape afterwards to verify the image. Tapes that pass the dd(1) test without errors appear to be flawless, to the best of my testing abilities. ( Each test takes many hours and so I have not tested this every time on every backup I've made, until recently. ) For what it's worth, I'm not clear on whether such tapes are useless, or only need to be reformatted. I purchased them preformatted, so they should have worked. I'll post as I learn more on this topic - I would assume that there are quite a few people whom have chosen the midrange archival solution of a floppy controller tape drive, rather than a high-end SCSI tape drive. Pointers to more detailed reference materials with respect to QIC-80 tapes and their low-level formatting mechanism(s) would be useful. Once I have read them perhaps I can translate the technojargon into some fairly straightforward behavioral descriptions. -=8=- Dale : try running dd(1) on your tapes to see if they had problems. This is not guaranteed to be the cause of your problem, but it may be ... -- richard Truth : the most deadly weapon known to civilization. Possession forbidden by employers, governments, and authorities, across the known universe. Violation of this regulation punishable by death. richard childers pascal@netcom.com From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 16 10:20:25 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA06921 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 10:20:25 -0700 Received: from haven.ios.com (haven.ios.com [198.4.75.45]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA06915 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 10:20:24 -0700 Received: (from rashid@localhost) by haven.ios.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA25156 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 13:22:59 -0400 From: "Rashid Karimov." Message-Id: <199504161722.NAA25156@haven.ios.com> Subject: cscope for FreeBSD / or any free version /. To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 13:22:59 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 334 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi there, The subject says it all -does any1 here knows about free / shareware version of cscope ? I've heard about .el version for Emacs , but that one is rather limited. I found the cscope be very useful tool for sw developer as well as system admin.. ( that was in my previous incar- nation when I run SCO ). SY RK From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 16 11:41:26 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA08599 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 11:41:26 -0700 Received: from blackadder2.cis.mcmaster.ca (blackadder2.CIS.McMaster.CA [130.113.128.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA08593 ; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 11:41:22 -0700 Received: from water.Eng.McMaster.CA by blackadder2.cis.mcmaster.ca with SMTP id AA06173 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4); Sun, 16 Apr 1995 14:45:18 -0400 Received: by water.eng.mcmaster.ca (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04932; Sun, 16 Apr 95 14:37:51 EDT Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 14:37:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Todd Pfaff To: questions@FreeBSD.org Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: support for Xircom PCMCIA Ethernet adapters? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is there support for the PCMCIA Xircom Creditcard Ethernet Adapter IIPS in FreeBSD-2.0, or is anyone working on implementing it? Would it be compatible with any of the supported PCMCIA Ethernet adapters? If anyone is working on support for it, I'm willing to test. Alternatively, I could work on this project if I had the proper technical documentation. Please reply directly since I'm not currently subscribed to the lists. -- Todd Pfaff \ Internet: todd@water.eng.mcmaster.ca Dept. of Mechanical Engineering \ Voice: (905) 525-9140 x27351 McMaster University \ FAX: (905) 572-7944 Hamilton, Ontario, CANADA L8S 4L7 \ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 16 12:52:34 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA12381 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 12:52:34 -0700 Received: from remington.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp (remington.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp [131.113.82.33]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA12374 ; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 12:52:28 -0700 Received: (from hosokawa@localhost) by remington.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp (8.6.9+2.4Wb/3.3Wb) id EAA11376; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 04:52:03 +0900 Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 04:52:03 +0900 Message-Id: <199504161952.EAA11376@remington.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp> To: todd@water.eng.mcmaster.ca Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.org, hosokawa@mt.cs.keio.ac.jp Subject: Re: support for Xircom PCMCIA Ethernet adapters? In-Reply-To: Your message of Sun, 16 Apr 1995 14:37:50 -0400 (EDT). From: hosokawa@mt.cs.keio.ac.jp (HOSOKAWA Tatsumi) X-Mailer: mnews [version 1.18PL3] 1994-08/01(Mon) Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article todd@water.eng.mcmaster.ca writes: >> Is there support for the PCMCIA Xircom Creditcard Ethernet Adapter IIPS >> in FreeBSD-2.0, or is anyone working on implementing it? Would it be >> compatible with any of the supported PCMCIA Ethernet adapters? If anyone >> is working on support for it, I'm willing to test. Alternatively, I could >> work on this project if I had the proper technical documentation. I heard Xircom hates free software, and I've not heard that their policy had changed. So you won't read any technical documentation as long as you want to use it for free software. -- HOSOKAWA, Tatsumi E-mail: hosokawa@mt.cs.keio.ac.jp WWW homepage: http://www.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp/person/hosokawa.html Department of Computer Science, Keio University, Yokohama, Japan From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 16 13:45:25 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA13661 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 13:45:25 -0700 Received: from critter.clark.net (critter.clark.net [168.143.4.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA13652 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 13:45:01 -0700 Received: (from rjs@localhost) by critter.clark.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id PAA20642; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 15:46:41 GMT Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 15:41:45 +0000 From: Ron Steele Subject: andrew and printing To: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I grabbed the andrew system from incoming on freebsd.cdrom.com, and it seems to work fine, except the software required for printing (ezprint) is missing. When I ftp'ed this from another site, some files seem to missing. If anyone is successfully using andrew for word processing and especially printing, I would love to know where to get all the needed pieces, hopefully in binary form, and if necessary, how to put them together. Ron From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 16 14:45:59 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA15468 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 14:45:59 -0700 Received: from hutcs.cs.hut.fi (root@hutcs.cs.hut.fi [130.233.192.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id OAA15462 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 14:45:57 -0700 Received: from shadows.cs.hut.fi by hutcs.cs.hut.fi with SMTP id AA02259 (5.65c8/HUTCS-S 1.4 for ); Mon, 17 Apr 1995 00:45:48 +0300 From: Heikki Suonsivu Received: (hsu@localhost) by shadows.cs.hut.fi (8.6.10/8.6.10) id AAA02796; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 00:46:01 +0300 Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 00:46:01 +0300 Message-Id: <199504162146.AAA02796@shadows.cs.hut.fi> To: steve@khoros.unm.edu (Steven Jorgensen) Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: steve@khoros.unm.edu's message of 15 Apr 1995 12:03:48 +0300 Subject: DAT tape compat? Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Otaniemi, Finland Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk for different versions of Unix. I am currently running a SCSI Wangtek DAT tape drive under Freebsd 2.0, and tapes I create can be read by all other DAT drives I've tried it on. However, when I try to make a tape to bring home, the only thing that seems to be able to create tapes that I can read is a 486 running BSDOS. Tapes created on our Sun DAT or the DEC Alpha DAT can be read. All I get is a Tape error.. Do these DAT's create some specialized propriety format that we just don't support, or am I not configuring something correctly on my system? Any help appreciated. I have a little bit different symptoms: - I can write tapes quickly on any system. - I can read them, but they come out very slowly (< 20kB/s). - The tapes themselves seem to be ok, they can be read though, it just takes a week to do it. - I have tried 3 tape drives of same type. - If I take the drive and attach it into a Sun SS10, reading the FreeBSD-written tapes is still slow. - If I write the tape on a SS10, it can be read quickly on SS10 reading works fine (several hundred kB/s). - Both 1.1.5.1 and early 2.* did this, but I have done less testing on 2.*. - I haven't tried reading SS10-written tape on a FreeBSD system. - The drive is 3400 with compression (DX I think). - I have tried number of different block sizes with no difference. It seems to be a drive problem which is woken up by the FreeBSD driver or by the way I write the tapes (its all dd, which would seem to be sensible, though). I guess I should write a tape for wangtek so that they could check out why this happens... -- Heikki Suonsivu, T{ysikuu 10 C 83/02210 Espoo/FINLAND, hsu@cs.hut.fi home +358-0-8031121 work -4513377 fax -4555276 riippu SN From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 16 14:48:02 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA15482 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 14:48:02 -0700 Received: from netcomsv.netcom.com (uucp7.netcom.com [163.179.3.7]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA15476 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 14:48:01 -0700 Received: from etserver.UUCP by netcomsv.netcom.com with UUCP (8.6.9/SMI-4.1) id OAA00979; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 14:46:43 -0700 Received: from et.UUCP (et@localhost) by localhost (8.6.9/8.6.9) with UUCP id OAA00405 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 14:41:47 -0700 Received: by etn.uucp.netcom.com!et; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 14:46:50 X-Mailer: WinNET Plus, v3.0 Message-ID: <84@et.etn.uucp.netcom.com> Reply-To: etserver!et.etn.uucp.netcom.com!shane@netcom.com (Shane Anderson) To: etserver!freebsd.org!questions@netcom.com Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 14:46:50 Subject: sendmail...rewriting...!bang paths From: etserver!et.etn.uucp.netcom.com!shane@netcom.com (Shane Anderson) Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Further to my previous post, I'd like the reply to, to, cc, and from lines read: shane@et.etn.uucp.netcom.com, support@bsdi.com, etc... instead of !bang paths. I would think it is in the rewriting rules, or in the sendmail.cf somewhere... thanks for your help... >From et!shane Sun Apr 16 14:18:07 1995 remote from etserver Received: by et.etn.uucp.netcom.com for Received: from et.UUCP (et@localhost) by localhost (8.6.9/8.6.9) with UUCP id OAA00356; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 14:17:59 -0700 Received: by etn.uucp.netcom.com!et; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 14:20:20 X-Mailer: WinNET Plus, v3.0 Message-ID: <79@et.etn.uucp.netcom.com> Reply-To: etserver!et.etn.uucp.netcom.com!shane (Shane Anderson) To: etserver!freebsd.org!questions CC:etserver!et.pronex.com!shane,etserver!et.etn.uucp.netcom.com!shane Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 14:20:20 Subject: Sendmail... From:etserver!et.etn.uucp.netcom.com!shane (Shane Anderson) REPLY-TO: etserver!et.etn.uucp.netcom.com!shane ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 16 15:02:21 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA15763 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 15:02:21 -0700 Received: from ain.charm.net (ain.charm.net [198.69.35.206]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA15755 ; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 15:02:19 -0700 Received: (from nc@localhost) by ain.charm.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA15029; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 17:56:12 -0400 Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 17:56:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Network Coordinator To: HOSOKAWA Tatsumi cc: todd@water.eng.mcmaster.ca, questions@FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.org, hosokawa@mt.cs.keio.ac.jp Subject: Re: support for Xircom PCMCIA Ethernet adapters? In-Reply-To: <199504161952.EAA11376@remington.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 17 Apr 1995, HOSOKAWA Tatsumi wrote: > >> Is there support for the PCMCIA Xircom Creditcard Ethernet Adapter IIPS > >> in FreeBSD-2.0, or is anyone working on implementing it? Would it be > >> compatible with any of the supported PCMCIA Ethernet adapters? If anyone > >> is working on support for it, I'm willing to test. Alternatively, I could > >> work on this project if I had the proper technical documentation. > > I heard Xircom hates free software, and I've not heard that their > policy had changed. So you won't read any technical documentation as > long as you want to use it for free software. > Doesn't Linux have a driver supporting some Xircom hardware? I could have sworn I have seen those running around. Moreover, I still haven't figured out why companies that make *hardware* hate free software? Its not like making free software will reduce the purchases or profit margins of their hardware, in fact, it will probably increase them. [software doesn't make much sense without hardware]. --How could we run FreeBSD without several megabytes of RAM? Texas Instruments and/or Micron aren't going to say their chips aren't designed to be used with free software. Ah well... -Jerry. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 16 17:31:12 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA04187 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 17:31:12 -0700 Received: from cats.ucsc.edu (root@cats-po-1.UCSC.EDU [128.114.129.22]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA04181 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 17:31:11 -0700 Received: from scruz.ucsc.edu by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id RAA11985; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 17:31:07 -0700 Received: from osprey by scruz.ucsc.edu id aa11489; 16 Apr 95 17:29 PDT Received: (from markd@localhost) by Grizzly.COM (8.6.9/8.6.9) id RAA18064; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 17:24:59 -0700 Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 17:24:59 -0700 From: Mark Diekhans Message-Id: <199504170024.RAA18064@Grizzly.COM> To: shane@et.pronex.com CC: questions@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: <366@et.pronex.com> (message from Shane Anderson on Sat, 15 Apr 1995 14:37:49) Subject: Re: UUCP / sendmail Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >my domain is succesfully transferred. However, I wish my domain >to feed client sites, and just cannot seem to get it done. It is >not a matter of connectivity so much, since my client uucp sites >can dial in and drop off mail, (and can pick up mail if it exists.) I have used the m4 macros that come with sendmail (they are in the FreeBSD 2.* source tree) to set up a uucp-only site that uses domain addressing. They are a little berkeley specific, but I was able to make it work. Its a lot easier than figuring out sendmail. I also use a mailer table to sepcify the connected sites. I will send you my files in a separate piece of mail. Mark From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 16 20:52:43 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id UAA00527 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 20:52:43 -0700 Received: from nickel.ucs.indiana.edu (root@nickel.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.10.5]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id UAA00521 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 20:52:41 -0700 Message-Id: <199504170352.UAA00521@freefall.cdrom.com> Received: by nickel.ucs.indiana.edu (5.65c+/10jsm) id AA23432; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 22:16:09 -0500 From: michael squires Subject: Re: SATAN ported?? To: peter@bonkers.taronga.com (Peter da Silva) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 22:16:09 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: <199504060227.VAA22300@bonkers.taronga.com> from "Peter da Silva" at Apr 5, 95 09:27:44 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 344 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > OK, I built perl 5.001 patch 4 and Satan on 1.1.5.1. The only problem > was in making sure satan included in fping.c before > , oh, you also needed to modify paths.pl to look for ping > in /sbin and paths.sh to look for basename in /usr/bin. Satan 1.1.1. with 1.1.5.1 Release seems to need the same changes. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 16 21:06:31 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id VAA01229 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 21:06:31 -0700 Received: from glueserv1.umd.edu (glueserv1.umd.edu [129.2.70.69]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA01223 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 21:06:29 -0700 Received: from cappuccino.eng.umd.edu (cappuccino.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.14]) by glueserv1.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id VAA11856; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 21:02:47 -0400 Received: (chuckr@localhost) by cappuccino.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) id VAA06512; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 21:02:46 -0400 Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 21:02:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: Ron Steele cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: Re: andrew and printing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 16 Apr 1995, Ron Steele wrote: > I grabbed the andrew system from incoming on freebsd.cdrom.com, and > it seems to work fine, except the software required for printing > (ezprint) is missing. When I ftp'ed this from another site, some > files seem to missing. > > If anyone is successfully using andrew for word processing and especially > printing, I would love to know where to get all the needed pieces, > hopefully in binary form, and if necessary, how to put them together. ezprint, which sits in my /usr/andrew/bin, is just a softlink to runapp. I'm pretty sure that you don't need anything of the kind. I do my printing directly from ez. The trick is telling the ez config files how you print nroff stuff, so for me (I have a postscript printer, I print the output of groff directly) I just a file called ".preferences" in my home dir, and have the following lines in it: printer:lp printdir:/usr/chuckr/.printdir print.delete:yes print.copy:yes formatCommand:groff -pte /tmp/%s.n| (notice the ending pipe symbol) PrintCommand: lpr I have my lpr automatically piping the output to a different machine, where it actually prints to. Works fine for me. There's also a "formatCommand" that uses ghostview... Hope this is enough, mail me directly if it isn't, or use the andrew's folks newsgroups, because they really do answer it, at least they did for me. Wish I could get the term folks to answer for me..... > > > Ron > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 7608 Topton St. | New Carrollton, MD 20784 | I run Journey2 (Freebsd 2.0) and n3lxx (301) 459-2316 | (FreeBSD 1.1.5.1) and am I happy! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 16 22:22:42 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA02770 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 22:22:42 -0700 Received: from remington.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp (remington.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp [131.113.82.33]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA02764 ; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 22:22:40 -0700 Received: (from hosokawa@localhost) by remington.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp (8.6.9+2.4Wb/3.3Wb) id OAA13653; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 14:22:19 +0900 Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 14:22:19 +0900 Message-Id: <199504170522.OAA13653@remington.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp> To: nc@ain.charm.net Cc: todd@water.eng.mcmaster.ca, questions@FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.org, hosokawa@mt.cs.keio.ac.jp Subject: Re: support for Xircom PCMCIA Ethernet adapters? In-Reply-To: Your message of Sun, 16 Apr 1995 17:56:11 -0400 (EDT). From: hosokawa@mt.cs.keio.ac.jp (HOSOKAWA Tatsumi) X-Mailer: mnews [version 1.18PL3] 1994-08/01(Mon) Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article nc@ain.charm.net writes: >> Doesn't Linux have a driver supporting some Xircom hardware? I could have No. There are no Xircom cards in the supported list of Linux PCMCIA driver (2.4.5). >> sworn I have seen those running around. Moreover, I still haven't figured >> out why companies that make *hardware* hate free software? Its not like I heard that the president of Xircom hates free software by philosophycal reasons. They protect device driver from reverse-engineering by encrypting the drivers, and I heard that they won't give us any hardware information without exclusive contracts. If I am wrong, please someone correct it. >> making free software will reduce the purchases or profit margins of their >> hardware, in fact, it will probably increase them. [software doesn't make >> much sense without hardware]. --How could we run FreeBSD without several >> megabytes of RAM? Texas Instruments and/or Micron aren't going to say >> their chips aren't designed to be used with free software. -- HOSOKAWA, Tatsumi E-mail: hosokawa@mt.cs.keio.ac.jp WWW homepage: http://www.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp/person/hosokawa.html Department of Computer Science, Keio University, Yokohama, Japan From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 16 22:23:18 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA02796 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 22:23:18 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id WAA02790 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 22:23:17 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA06701; Sun, 16 Apr 95 23:16:52 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9504170516.AA06701@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: cscope for FreeBSD / or any free version /. To: rashid@haven.ios.com (Rashid Karimov.) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 95 23:16:51 MDT Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199504161722.NAA25156@haven.ios.com> from "Rashid Karimov." at Apr 16, 95 01:22:59 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > The subject says it all -does any1 here knows about > free / shareware version of cscope ? > I've heard about .el version for Emacs , but that > one is rather limited. > I found the cscope be very useful tool for sw developer > as well as system admin.. ( that was in my previous incar- > nation when I run SCO ). There is a 'c' interpreter program out there. There is also a branch path analysis program written in C++ out there. The major piece for a cscope is the lexical analysis for token classification. There are sever PD C compilers under UCB style license that you could use for a starting point if you didn't want to use GCC. One note is that the resulting program should allow the use of multiple variable reference files (databases). This was a recent mod to the USL cscope that increased the utility of the program for tree structured source heirarchies with sources spanning multiple physical directories. Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 16 22:23:49 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA02816 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 22:23:49 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id WAA02700 ; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 22:19:05 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA06686; Sun, 16 Apr 95 23:12:14 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9504170512.AA06686@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: support for Xircom PCMCIA Ethernet adapters? To: nc@ain.charm.net (Network Coordinator) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 95 23:12:13 MDT Cc: hosokawa@mt.cs.keio.ac.jp, todd@water.eng.mcmaster.ca, questions@FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Network Coordinator" at Apr 16, 95 05:56:11 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > >> Is there support for the PCMCIA Xircom Creditcard Ethernet Adapter IIPS > > >> in FreeBSD-2.0, or is anyone working on implementing it? Would it be > > >> compatible with any of the supported PCMCIA Ethernet adapters? If anyone > > >> is working on support for it, I'm willing to test. Alternatively, I could > > >> work on this project if I had the proper technical documentation. > > > > I heard Xircom hates free software, and I've not heard that their > > policy had changed. So you won't read any technical documentation as > > long as you want to use it for free software. > > > > Doesn't Linux have a driver supporting some Xircom hardware? I could have > sworn I have seen those running around. Moreover, I still haven't figured > out why companies that make *hardware* hate free software? Its not like > making free software will reduce the purchases or profit margins of their > hardware, in fact, it will probably increase them. [software doesn't make > much sense without hardware]. --How could we run FreeBSD without several > megabytes of RAM? Texas Instruments and/or Micron aren't going to say > their chips aren't designed to be used with free software. Xircom has figured out a rather fast way to talk to ethernets using parallel ports to do the job. The are noticibly unanxious to document this mechanism so that it can be programmed to by their competitors (both allowing the competitor to leverage Xircom marketing efforts by using their drivers ["The card's just like Xircom, only cheaper because we're not amortizing our software costs across an increased hardware cost"] and allowing the competitors access to the interface technology itself by telling them how to do half the work instead of providing undocumented binary code. If the competitor disassembled the code and derived the interface that way, then they would have to amortize the costs of doing so across the cost of *their* equipment, giving them less incentive to do so. So basically it's an anticompetitive practice that happens to not be illegal under either Sherman (Anti Trust) or Rico (Anti Racketeering). There are some absurd technical reasons for doing this for some hardware, but most other hardware falls into the same category. As I suggested in the previous posting, get someone to disassemble and document the interface without you seeing the code, then you write the driver. This is called clean-rooming. Or leverage an existing driver by allowing it to run in your kernel environment. I've suggested a kernel environment emulation for SCO, Novell, and NT drivers (all protected mode, most that come on disks with the hardware that requires them). I believe there is a packet driver for which source is not available. I do not believe there is a Linux driver. Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 17 00:02:26 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id AAA08995 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 00:02:26 -0700 Received: from zaphod (zaphod.ttu.ee [193.40.254.227]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id AAA08988 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 00:02:22 -0700 Received: from juku.li.ttu.ee by zaphod (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA05805; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 10:02:59 +0300 Received: by juku.li.ttu.ee (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA15907; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 10:01:33 +0300 Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 10:01:33 +0300 From: tanel@juku.li.ttu.ee (Tanel Kuusk) Message-Id: <9504170701.AA15907@juku.li.ttu.ee> To: questions@FreeBSD.org, tsai@server.keck.lmu.edu Subject: Re: Error message "/var/spool/lpd/errors:No such file or directory" X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > problem. Why the system does not create the /var/spool/lpd/errors itself. > Please kindly tell me how to correct this situation. Thanks. # mkdir /var/spool/lpd/errors, I guess :-) Tanel From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 17 02:39:11 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id CAA14598 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 02:39:11 -0700 Received: from darkness.radom.mplik.ru (darkness.radom.mplik.ru [193.124.189.59]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id CAA14521 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 02:38:45 -0700 Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 15:36:17 UTC From: borunov@ns.radom.mplik.ru (Alexander Yu. Borunov) To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Help ! MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <950417153617@darkness.radom.mplik.ru> Organization: Radom-Vostok X-Mailer: < Mail Perfect V2.21 =DS= > Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello Misters! I have a problem with installing FreeBSD 2.0 I have pass installation from floppy ( boot disk ) - it is first step Ok. I've create only one slice - for FreeBsd, and wrote MBR. After this, installation process make filesystems and wrote data to disk. I reboot, and I have message : "Read error" !!! About my configuration: Pentium-66, 8 Mb RAM (only now), EISA -SCSI: AIC-7770 (Translation 1024 turned off) -Quantum 540 Mb (2740 cyl, 4 heads, 96 sec, but I set: 540 cyl, 64 heads, 32 sec) -3C579 TP However, if I boot from floppy and press Boot: sd(0,a)/kernel It's All Right ! Please, help me! Sorry my bad English. --- Alexander Yu. Borunov "Radom-Vostok", Ekaterinburg, Russia ph. (3432)-22-52-08 22-54-49 fax (3432)-22-67-20 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 17 06:48:25 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA28515 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 06:48:25 -0700 Received: from salyko.cube.net (root@salyko.cube.net [193.141.73.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA28501 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 06:48:19 -0700 Received: from nasim.nasim.cube.net by salyko.cube.net with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0s0r9w-0016DYC; Mon, 17 Apr 95 15:48 MET DST Received: by nasim.nasim.cube.net (Smail3.1.29.0 #1) id m0s0r9q-000O6NC; Mon, 17 Apr 95 15:48 MET DST To: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Path: not-for-mail From: knarf@nasim.cube.net (Frank Bartels) Newsgroups: muc.lists.freebsd.questions Subject: Re: no cursor with FreeBSD 2.0 (CD) and Trident mono VGA Date: 17 Apr 1995 15:48:01 +0200 Organization: The Sunsite for ATARI-Friends Lines: 29 Message-ID: <3mtrih$fs6@nasim.nasim.cube.net> References: <199504111849.NAA00479@starfire.mn.org> X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk John Lind (john@starfire.mn.org) wrote: > On an installation of FreeBSD 2.0 on a system with a Trident monochrome > VGA adapter, there is no cursor when the cursor position is not the top > line of the display. This makes certain tasks, such as editing with > "vi", a little more challenging than usual. :-) I have a Trident tvga 9000 and there is no cursor with syscons, too. I use pcvt and everything works fine. I have an exotic MDA (NOKIA) here, and with syscons everyting after "loading kernel" is *white* on *white*. Installing FreeBSD there is nothing compared to a vi without a cursor. ;) Again, pcvt works great on this MDA. All you have to do is building a kernel with pcvt instead of syscons, copying the pcvt termcap to /etc/termcap.small on the boot floppy. But sysinstall does not copy /etc/termcap.small onto the hard disc, so the reboot will fail. If you find a way to copy the file onto the hard disc (which is not that easy at this time), the installation goes on... My vote: Throw syscons away and make pcvt the standard display driver for FreeBSD. Bye, Knarf -- Frank Bartels | UUCP/ZModem/Fax: + 49 89 5469593 | MiNT is knarf@nasim.cube.net | Login: nuucp Index: /pub/ls-lR.nasim.gz | Now TOS! From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 17 08:05:05 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA02922 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 08:05:05 -0700 Received: from haven.ios.com (haven.ios.com [198.4.75.45]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA02910 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 08:05:00 -0700 Received: (from rashid@localhost) by haven.ios.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA22804; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 11:05:29 -0400 From: "Rashid Karimov." Message-Id: <199504171505.LAA22804@haven.ios.com> Subject: Re: cscope for FreeBSD / or any free version /. To: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 11:05:28 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9504170516.AA06701@cs.weber.edu> from "Terry Lambert" at Apr 16, 95 11:16:51 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 956 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi there, > > > The subject says it all -does any1 here knows about > > free / shareware version of cscope ? > > I've heard about .el version for Emacs , but that > > one is rather limited. > > I found the cscope be very useful tool for sw developer > > as well as system admin.. ( that was in my previous incar- > > nation when I run SCO ). > > There is a 'c' interpreter program out there. > There is also a branch path analysis program written in C++ out > there. > > One note is that the resulting program should allow the use of > multiple variable reference files (databases). This was a recent > mod to the USL cscope that increased the utility of the program for > tree structured source heirarchies with sources spanning multiple > physical directories. > > Terry Lambert Where can I get it ? I mean cscope - interactive browser ? I now about cflow , lint and other development tools - but I want _cscope ? SY Rashid From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 17 08:24:50 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA03807 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 08:24:50 -0700 Received: from devnull (devnull.mpd.tandem.com [131.124.4.29]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA03801 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 08:24:48 -0700 Received: from olympus by devnull (8.6.8/8.6.6) id KAA10700; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 10:24:32 -0500 Received: by olympus (4.1/TSS2.1) id AA20675; Mon, 17 Apr 95 10:22:58 CDT From: faulkner@mpd.tandem.com (Boyd Faulkner) Message-Id: <9504171522.AA20675@olympus> Subject: Re: andrew and printing To: rjs@clark.net (Ron Steele) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 10:22:58 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: from "Ron Steele" at Apr 16, 95 03:41:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL17] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 780 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I grabbed the andrew system from incoming on freebsd.cdrom.com, and > it seems to work fine, except the software required for printing > (ezprint) is missing. When I ftp'ed this from another site, some > files seem to missing. > > If anyone is successfully using andrew for word processing and especially > printing, I would love to know where to get all the needed pieces, > hopefully in binary form, and if necessary, how to put them together. > > > Ron > > Read the Andrew FAQ (in doc) on Printing. Turns out you end up using groff. Boyd -- _______________________________________________________________________ Boyd Faulkner faulkner@isd.tandem.com _______________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 17 09:44:41 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA07303 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 09:44:41 -0700 Received: from toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu [128.120.56.188]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA07296 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 09:44:21 -0700 Received: from fenton.cs.ucdavis.edu by toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (4.1/UCD.CS.2.6) id AA20567; Mon, 17 Apr 95 09:44:18 PDT Received: by fenton.cs.ucdavis.edu (931110.SGI/UCD.CS.2.6) id AA00193; Mon, 17 Apr 95 09:44:17 -0700 Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 09:44:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Demetrios Ojeda X-Sender: ojeda@fenton.cs.ucdavis.edu To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Unable to edit partition Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have currently purchased FreeBSD and am trying to install it on a 386 w/ 4MB RAM. I have been able to successfully Fdisk my HD (101 MB IDE) but I am unable to allocate MB to my partitions. I try to edit the a part but when I enter the values ( via your instructions ), they dont register. I hope this is the right avenue to voice my questions. Any help will be appreciated. Demetri Ojeda Software Programmer/Analyst Duplex Products Inc. 4119 South Market Court Sacramento, California 95834 (916) 568-8333 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Demetrios C. Ojeda ojeda@bell.cs.ucdavis.edu University of California, Davis dcojeda@chorizo.engr.ucdavis.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 17 09:56:48 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA07891 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 09:56:48 -0700 Received: from zaphod (zaphod.ttu.ee [193.40.254.227]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA07867 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 09:56:20 -0700 Received: from juku.li.ttu.ee by zaphod (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA07591; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 19:55:26 +0300 Received: by juku.li.ttu.ee (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA16449; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 19:53:59 +0300 Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 19:53:59 +0300 From: tanel@juku.li.ttu.ee (Tanel Kuusk) Message-Id: <9504171653.AA16449@juku.li.ttu.ee> To: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com, knarf@nasim.cube.net Subject: Re: no cursor with FreeBSD 2.0 (CD) and Trident mono VGA X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I have a Trident tvga 9000 and there is no cursor with syscons, too. > I use pcvt and everything works fine. You have to recompile the kernel and in the /sys/i386/isa/syscons.c is a line something like #define BLOCK_CURSOR 1 you have to change it to 0 and it works OK, using the normal underline cursor. Tanel From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 17 10:03:59 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA08182 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 10:03:59 -0700 Received: from netcom11.netcom.com (pascal@netcom11.netcom.com [192.100.81.121]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA08173 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 10:03:58 -0700 Received: by netcom11.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id KAA14764; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 10:03:44 -0700 Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 10:03:44 -0700 From: pascal@netcom.com (Richard A Childers) Message-Id: <199504171703.KAA14764@netcom11.netcom.com> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: trivial backup script Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk After a few requests for the backup script in question, I've decided to post it for the use of those whom find it useful or a good starting place for their own backup script(s). A little bit of descriptive overview : (1) define some useful variables that will prove useful in labelling the tape ( see ft(1) ) and dump log with hostname, day, and time (2) create the backup image using your favorite utility and command- line flags (3) use the utility to verify the image - tar(1) is better at this that dump(8) or restore(8), but for system backups you probably don't want to use use tar(1) or cpio(1) (4) use dd(1) to verify the media upon which the image is stored That's it. Nothing complicated ... just methodical. ===== cut here ===== #!/bin/csh -f set HOST = `hostname` # helpful w/ multiple systems or tapes set ROOT = "/home/childers" # this should be an absolute path set LOGDIR = "${ROOT}/Backups" # you will need to make this directory set STAMP = `date +%y%m%d@%H%M` # day-time-stamp to be used in logfile # should note when backup was started, to calculate lapse # echo "backup of ${ROOT} started at `date` ..." # cd to top of hierarchy to be backed up # cd ${ROOT} echo " writing backup tape of ${ROOT} ..." ########################################################################### # # if you want dump(8) you'll need to replace this : # # "^tar cbf 512k - ." # # ... with something like this : # # "^dump 0sdbf 305 5000 512 - /dev/rsd0a" # # ... where "305", "5000" and "512" are experimentally # derived values which will not be defended here and now. # ########################################################################### # # create tar tape # tar cbf 512k - . | ft "${HOST}:${ROOT} tar at ${STAMP}" echo " creating table-of-contents from backup ..." ########################################################################### # # for compatibility with the above change, you'll need to replace : # # "tar tvbf 512k -" # # ... with # # "restore -tvbf 512 -" # # ... # ########################################################################### # # re-read tar tape to insure readability # ft | tar tvbf 512k - >& ${LOGDIR}/${STAMP}_tar.toc echo " scanning backup tape for defects ..." # reread media to insure freedom from defencts # ft | dd bs=512k of=/dev/null |& tee -i ${LOGDIR}/${STAMP}_dd.log echo "backup finished at `date`" exit # # that's all, folks !! # ===== cut here ===== -- richard Good faith : see "Legal Fiction". Legal fiction : see "Good Faith". richard childers san francisco, california pascal@netcom.com From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 17 10:04:45 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA08210 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 10:04:45 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA08204 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 10:04:39 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA08296; Mon, 17 Apr 95 10:58:13 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9504171658.AA08296@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: cscope for FreeBSD / or any free version /. To: rashid@haven.ios.com (Rashid Karimov.) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 95 10:58:12 MDT Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199504171505.LAA22804@haven.ios.com> from "Rashid Karimov." at Apr 17, 95 11:05:28 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > One note is that the resulting program should allow the use of > > multiple variable reference files (databases). This was a recent > > mod to the USL cscope that increased the utility of the program for > > tree structured source heirarchies with sources spanning multiple > > physical directories. > > Where can I get it ? I mean cscope - interactive browser ? > I now about cflow , lint and other development tools - but I want > _cscope ? All cscope is is a token based search utility that knows how to do token based search/replace and start vi at file offsets. You get it by writing a clone or by licensing it from AT&T for $300 (I believe) for binary copies. Unfortunately, I don't have my proce list for this handy any more. Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 17 10:37:20 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA09654 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 10:37:20 -0700 Received: from toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu [128.120.56.188]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA09647 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 10:37:19 -0700 Received: from fenton.cs.ucdavis.edu by toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (4.1/UCD.CS.2.6) id AA21716; Mon, 17 Apr 95 10:37:17 PDT Received: by fenton.cs.ucdavis.edu (931110.SGI/UCD.CS.2.6) id AA00500; Mon, 17 Apr 95 10:37:15 -0700 Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 10:37:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Demetrios Ojeda X-Sender: ojeda@fenton.cs.ucdavis.edu To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Ideal setup with .... Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk What would be an ideal configuration for a PC with 2 101MB HD, 4 MB RAM. This will not be a multi-boot machine. This will be a stand alone UNIX machine i.e. what size should my partitions look like and my mountpoints (on both drives). -Demetri. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Demetrios C. Ojeda ojeda@bell.cs.ucdavis.edu University of California, Davis dcojeda@chorizo.engr.ucdavis.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 17 11:14:18 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA12086 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 11:14:18 -0700 Received: from aries.ibms.sinica.edu.tw ([140.109.40.248]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA12074 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 11:14:09 -0700 Received: (from taob@localhost) by aries.ibms.sinica.edu.tw (8.6.11/8.6.9) id CAA05407; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 02:13:53 +0800 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 02:13:53 +0800 (CST) From: Brian Tao To: Garrett Wollman cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Processes not dying! In-Reply-To: <9504151836.AA11786@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 15 Apr 1995, Garrett Wollman wrote: > > `soft,intr' breaks traditional UNIX filesystem semantics even more > than regular NFS does. Oh. :-S Why? :) -- Brian ("Though this be madness, yet there is method in't") Tao taob@gate.sinica.edu.tw <-- work ........ play --> taob@io.org From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 17 11:38:06 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA14103 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 11:38:06 -0700 Received: from mail.csi.UOttawa.CA (mail.csi.uottawa.ca [137.122.24.142]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA14093 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 11:38:04 -0700 Received: from csia.csi.uottawa.ca (u509264@csia.csi.uottawa.ca [137.122.16.2]) by mail.csi.UOttawa.CA (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA19928 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 14:37:58 -0400 From: Dan Houle Received: by csia.csi.uottawa.ca (4.1/8.6.9) id AA06567 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 17 Apr 95 14:37:57 EDT Message-Id: <9504171837.AA06567@csia.csi.uottawa.ca> Subject: Remove the BSD MBR To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Mon, 17 Apr 95 14:37:56 EDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm in the process of setting up FreeBSD but I'v encountered a problem. I installed the MBR but since I'm using os/2 i don't need it. I've tried everything I could think of to remove it, but without success. There is no option in the BSD fdisk to remove it either. How can this be done? Help would be greatly appreciated. Dan Houle From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 17 11:47:07 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA14629 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 11:47:07 -0700 Received: from copper.cmp.com (copper.cmp.com [198.80.26.247]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA14621 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 11:47:05 -0700 Received: from mailgate.cmp.com ([198.80.26.5]) by copper.cmp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.14/16.2) id AA002664323; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 14:45:23 -0400 Received: by mailgate.cmp.com with Microsoft Mail id <2F92E162@mailgate.cmp.com>; Mon, 17 Apr 95 14:45:06 PDT From: Plyaskin Sergey To: "'.freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: Netscape Date: Mon, 17 Apr 95 14:44:00 PDT Message-Id: <2F92E162@mailgate.cmp.com> Encoding: 27 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, I can't get Netscape 1.1 beta3 to work under FreeBSD 2.0-RELEASE w/ XFree86-3.1. Please help. I did the following: 1. I downloaded netscape-v11b3-export.i386-unknown-bsd.tar.Z 2. I ran zcat netscape-v11b3-export.i386-unknown-bsd.tar.Z | tar xvf -. I've got netscape executable, XKeysymDB, nls subdir, and text files extracted under /usr/local/netscape. 3. I copied entire nls subdir to /usr/X11/lib/X11/nls and XKeysymDB to /usr/X11/lib/X11/XKeysymDB 4. setenv XNLSPATH /usr/X11/lib/X11/nls setenv XKEYSYMDB /usr/X11/lib/X11/XKeysymDB 5. As root, cd /usr/local/netscape netscape & I've got #netscape: Command not found. What's wrong? How to make it work. BTW, I also tried Beta2, and it also does not work. Thanks. Serge splyaski@cmp.com From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 17 12:41:32 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA17709 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 12:41:32 -0700 Received: from glueserv1.umd.edu (glueserv1.umd.edu [129.2.70.69]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA17697 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 12:41:17 -0700 Received: from latte.eng.umd.edu (latte.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.15]) by glueserv1.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id PAA11967; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 15:41:01 -0400 Received: (chuckr@localhost) by latte.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) id PAA08764; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 15:41:00 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 15:40:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: "Rashid Karimov." cc: Terry Lambert , questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cscope for FreeBSD / or any free version /. In-Reply-To: <199504171505.LAA22804@haven.ios.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 17 Apr 1995, Rashid Karimov. wrote: > Hi there, > > > > > > The subject says it all -does any1 here knows about > > > free / shareware version of cscope ? > > > I've heard about .el version for Emacs , but that > > > one is rather limited. > > > I found the cscope be very useful tool for sw developer > > > as well as system admin.. ( that was in my previous incar- > > > nation when I run SCO ). > > > > There is a 'c' interpreter program out there. > > There is also a branch path analysis program written in C++ out > > there. > > > > One note is that the resulting program should allow the use of > > multiple variable reference files (databases). This was a recent > > mod to the USL cscope that increased the utility of the program for > > tree structured source heirarchies with sources spanning multiple > > physical directories. > > > > Terry Lambert > > Where can I get it ? I mean cscope - interactive browser ? > I now about cflow , lint and other development tools - but I want > _cscope ? > > SY > Rashid It's not free software, its a product of AT&T, comes (or at least used to come) with SVR4, as part of the software development pack. Very neat stuff, too bad it's not free. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 7608 Topton St. | New Carrollton, MD 20784 | I run Journey2 (Freebsd 2.0) and n3lxx (301) 459-2316 | (FreeBSD 1.1.5.1) and am I happy! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 17 12:42:38 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA17770 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 12:42:38 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA17763 ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 12:42:37 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Plyaskin Sergey cc: "'.freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: Netscape In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 17 Apr 95 14:44:00 PDT." <2F92E162@mailgate.cmp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 12:42:37 -0700 Message-ID: <17762.798147757@freefall.cdrom.com> From: Gary Palmer (FreeBSD/ARM Team) Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <2F92E162@mailgate.cmp.com>, Plyaskin Sergey writes: >5. As root, >cd /usr/local/netscape >netscape & By default, the current directory `.' is not on root's path (it's a large security hole). Try ``/usr/local/netscape/netscape &''. It should work (as any user). I run Netscape 1.1b3 on this PC fine. Gary From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 17 12:54:26 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA18349 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 12:54:26 -0700 Received: from haven.ios.com (haven.ios.com [198.4.75.45]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA18339 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 12:54:24 -0700 Received: (from rashid@localhost) by haven.ios.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id PAA16413 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 15:57:04 -0400 From: "Rashid Karimov." Message-Id: <199504171957.PAA16413@haven.ios.com> Subject: Any limit on pty's in current ? To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 15:57:04 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 507 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi there, Is there any limit on amount of pty's one can configure into the system ? The config compalints is you define more that 64 pty's - but does it mean that only 64 ptys can be used ? I tried to look at the telnetd 's code , but didn't find any limits ( when it obtains the master pty , it checks out more that 64 ptys ). So are there any limits in the kernel itself ? The system is FreeBSD 2.1Development ( the kernel from previous SNAP , the telnetd - from 0210 SNAP). SY RK From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 17 13:28:41 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA20266 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 13:28:41 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA20257 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 13:28:38 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA09051; Mon, 17 Apr 95 14:22:14 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9504172022.AA09051@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: Netscape To: splyaski@cmp.com (Plyaskin Sergey) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 95 14:22:13 MDT Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <2F92E162@mailgate.cmp.com> from "Plyaskin Sergey" at Apr 17, 95 02:44:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > 5. As root, > cd /usr/local/netscape > netscape & > > I've got #netscape: Command not found. > What's wrong? How to make it work. BTW, I also tried Beta2, and it also does > not work. Thanks. Try ./netscape & I'm betting that as root, '.' is not in your path, and you probably haven't added /usr/local/netscape to your path in your startup files (it's generally a bad thing to add to root's path anyway). Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 17 14:13:12 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA23103 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 14:13:12 -0700 Received: from copper.cmp.com (copper.cmp.com [198.80.26.247]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA23097 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 14:13:08 -0700 Received: from mailgate.cmp.com ([198.80.26.5]) by copper.cmp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.14/16.2) id AA129063089; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 17:11:29 -0400 Received: by mailgate.cmp.com with Microsoft Mail id <2F9303A0@mailgate.cmp.com>; Mon, 17 Apr 95 17:11:12 PDT From: Plyaskin Sergey To: "'.freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: ATI Graphics Ultra & XFree86 Date: Mon, 17 Apr 95 17:11:00 PDT Message-Id: <2F9303A0@mailgate.cmp.com> Encoding: 10 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thanks to everybody for pointers on netscape. Now I'm able to run it. However, I was not able to set up my ATI Graphics Ultra ISA accelerator to produce any decent resolution/color depth. It only works in 4-color pseudo-color mode. Currently I have FreeBSD 2.0-RELEASE and XFree86 3.1. Could someone please enlighten me about how to get better performance. Does XFree86-3.1.1 have better video server support? I would really appreciate any info. Thanks. -Serge splyaski@cmp.com From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 17 14:20:09 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA23523 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 14:20:09 -0700 Received: from dtr.com (dtr.rain.com [204.119.8.19]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA23508 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 14:20:06 -0700 From: bmk@dtr.com Received: (from bmk@localhost) by dtr.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA18832; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 14:15:43 -0700 Message-Id: <199504172115.OAA18832@dtr.com> Subject: Re: Remove the BSD MBR To: u509264@csi.UOttawa.CA (Dan Houle) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 14:15:41 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9504171837.AA06567@csia.csi.uottawa.ca> from "Dan Houle" at Apr 17, 95 02:37:56 pm Reply-To: bmk@dtr.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 611 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I'm in the process of setting up FreeBSD but I'v encountered a problem. I > installed the MBR but since I'm using os/2 i don't need it. I've tried > everything I could think of to remove it, but without success. There is > no option in the BSD fdisk to remove it either. How can this be done? > Help would be greatly appreciated. [This is a FAQ] >From DOS, do FDISK /MBR. This will restore a DOS MBR, and will allow you to boot from the primary partition (Set it to point to your Boot Manager partition). I'm not sure if the OS/2 FDISK is capable of doing this or not - I havent used OS/2 in years. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 17 14:20:53 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA23565 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 14:20:53 -0700 Received: from haven.ios.com (haven.ios.com [198.4.75.45]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA23557 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 14:20:51 -0700 Received: (from rashid@localhost) by haven.ios.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id RAA26128; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 17:22:58 -0400 From: "Rashid Karimov." Message-Id: <199504172122.RAA26128@haven.ios.com> Subject: Re: Netscape To: splyaski@cmp.com (Plyaskin Sergey) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 17:22:57 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <2F92E162@mailgate.cmp.com> from "Plyaskin Sergey" at Apr 17, 95 02:44:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1130 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi there, > > > Hi all, > > I can't get Netscape 1.1 beta3 to work under FreeBSD 2.0-RELEASE w/ > XFree86-3.1. Please help. I did the following: > > 1. I downloaded netscape-v11b3-export.i386-unknown-bsd.tar.Z > > 2. I ran zcat netscape-v11b3-export.i386-unknown-bsd.tar.Z | tar xvf -. > I've got netscape executable, XKeysymDB, nls subdir, and text files > extracted under /usr/local/netscape. > > 3. I copied entire nls subdir to /usr/X11/lib/X11/nls and XKeysymDB to > /usr/X11/lib/X11/XKeysymDB > > 4. setenv XNLSPATH /usr/X11/lib/X11/nls > setenv XKEYSYMDB /usr/X11/lib/X11/XKeysymDB > > 5. As root, > cd /usr/local/netscape > netscape & Obviously the /usr/local/netscape is not in your path , or you should do "rehash" - if you use tcsh for the system to put new executable into the hashed list. Try to start netscape either by specifing full path to it, or cd'ing into /usr/local/netscape and then ./netscape If you're in X11 environment as ordinary user and then try to run some X11 app as su'ed root - most probably you'll have the problem with X server. But this is other question Rashid From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 17 15:50:40 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA28756 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 15:50:40 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA28749 ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 15:50:39 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: hosokawa@mt.cs.keio.ac.jp (HOSOKAWA Tatsumi) cc: nc@ain.charm.net, todd@water.eng.mcmaster.ca, questions@FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: support for Xircom PCMCIA Ethernet adapters? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 17 Apr 95 14:22:19 +0900." <199504170522.OAA13653@remington.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 15:50:38 -0700 Message-ID: <28748.798159038@freefall.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > No. There are no Xircom cards in the supported list of Linux PCMCIA > driver (2.4.5). Ok, here's my understanding of it: The Xircom cards require a download before they'll function, and this download code is available if you sign an NDA and jump through several other hoops. BSDI has done this, and BSD/OS does support the Xircom though I have also been informed that: 1. The driver was a royal pain-in-the-butt to write. 2. We free software folks REALLY don't even want to see the document that Xircom makes you sign to get ahold of the downloadable code. It's pretty scary. Jordan From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 17 15:57:59 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA29208 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 15:57:59 -0700 Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA29200 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 15:57:57 -0700 Received: from ipxpress.aws.waii.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP id QQylxj09912; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 18:57:43 -0400 Received: by ipxpress.aws.waii.com id AA28615 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for questions@freebsd.org); Mon, 17 Apr 1995 17:57:42 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 17:57:42 -0500 From: Don Dunbar Message-Id: <199504172257.AA28615@ipxpress.aws.waii.com> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is it possible to change the telnet / login message from: FreeBSD (bespin.com) (ttyv0) to: You idiot! (bespin.com) (ttyv0) ?? From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 17 17:08:07 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA03756 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 17:08:07 -0700 Received: from albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu (albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu [128.52.46.31]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA03741 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 17:08:02 -0700 From: kristyn@gnu.ai.mit.edu Received: from hill.gnu.ai.mit.edu by albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9GNU) with SMTP id UAA11647 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 20:07:59 -0400 Received: by hill.gnu.ai.mit.edu (15.11/4.0) id ; Mon, 17 Apr 95 20:07:53 edt Message-Id: <9504180007.AA02706@hill.gnu.ai.mit.edu> Subject: BIOS upgrade fixes mouse/kbd lock-ups on G2K To: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com (FreeBSD Questions) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 20:07:53 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 492 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hiya, I just thought I'd let any Gateway 2000 owners know that if they're having keyboard or mouse lockups when booting FreeBSD, my BIOS upgrade fixed that. I used to have to do the boing-boing-boing thing with my numlock key while my ISA bus was probed for devices. But the PhoenixBIOS upgrade I got from Micro Firmware (http://www.firmware.com) fixed that. -----Kris -- -=(*)=- Kristyn Fayette -=(*)=- kristyn@gnu.ai.mit.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 17 17:55:21 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA07439 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 17:55:21 -0700 Received: from grep.cs.fsu.edu (grep.cs.fsu.edu [128.186.121.152]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA07432 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 17:55:19 -0700 Received: by grep.cs.fsu.edu (8.6.9/56) id UAA15961; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 20:55:17 -0400 From: Gang-Ryung Uh Message-Id: <199504180055.UAA15961@grep.cs.fsu.edu> Subject: SLIP Problem To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 20:55:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2113 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk To whom it may concern, I tried to set up the slip connection between my FreeBSD 2.0 R system and one of my school machines I am using the kermit as a dial out tool for Sportster Modem which is accessed by /dev/cua01. Following is my attempt for the slip using kermit: 1) dial out to one of phone lines which are provided by the school. 2) enter username & passwd 3) type 'slip' 4) suspend the kermit session (by typing 'z') 5) as a root 'slattach -h -c -s 57600 /dev/cua01 After the slattach, I can ping any machine at my department. But if I tried to 'telnet ', 'rlogin ', or 'ftp ', then it says 'Connected to ', but does not give any login prompt.. For example, [/usr/users/uh] ftp grep Connected to grep.cs.fsu.edu. [/usr/users/uh] telnet grep Trying 128.186.121.152... Connected to grep.cs.fsu.edu. Escape character is '^]'. , then the process hangs there!!! I have to kill that processes from other window!! I do not know what I did wrong. Following is my interface status: [/usr/users/uh] ifconfig sl0 sl0: flags=9011 mtu 552 inet 128.186.121.205 --> 128.186.121.7 netmask 0xffffff00 After I ping some machines at my school, [/usr/users/uh] netstat -r Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Interface default sl1.cs.fsu.edu UGS 0 38 sl0 localhost localhost UH 1 0 lo0 sl1.cs.fsu.edu jonah.cs.fsu.edu UH 1 55 sl0 jonah.cs.fsu.edu localhost UGHS 8 14808 lo0 My '.kermrc' file looks like this: set modem sportster set line /dev/cua01 set speed 57600 set parity none set flow rts/cts set terminal bytesize 8 set file type binary If anybody had similar problem like me before, then I really appreciate your e-mails. Thanks, Regards, --Uh ---------------------- Uh Gang-Ryung e-mail: uh@cs.fsu.edu Work Phone: 644-3366 ---------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 17 18:59:49 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id SAA09222 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 18:59:49 -0700 Received: from RosedeLima.Vir.com (RosedeLima.Vir.com [199.84.154.65]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA09216 ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 18:59:48 -0700 Received: from ipdyne23.vir.com by Vir.com (8.6.10/2.0) id UAA04273; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 20:39:13 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 20:39:13 -0500 Message-Id: <199504180139.UAA04273@Vir.com> X-Sender: procecorjb@vir.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@FreeBSD.org From: procecorjb@Vir.com (Robert Burns) Subject: Support for Digiboards Cc: info@FreeBSD.org Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I will be running Free-bsd on a pentium 75 and was wondering if it is possible to use a PC/Xe - 8 port digiboard. Can someone help me out? Robert Burns procecorjb@vir.com mtl,canada From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 17 19:15:50 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id TAA09825 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 19:15:50 -0700 Received: from hp.com (hp.com [15.255.152.4]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA09815 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 19:15:42 -0700 Received: from hpisrdq.cup.hp.com (hpindio.cup.hp.com) by hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.15/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA108181340; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 19:15:40 -0700 Received: by hpisrdq.cup.hp.com with SMTP (1.38.193.4/15.5+IOS 3.20+cup+OMrelay) id AA27867; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 19:12:44 -0700 Message-Id: <9504180212.AA27867@hpisrdq.cup.hp.com> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: dd instead of rawrite? Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 19:12:44 -0700 From: Rick Jones Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dear questions - Is it possible to use "dd" on a running FreeBSD system instead of rawrite on a DOS system to make the boot floppies? Should I target a specific partition of "fd?" thanks muchly, rick jones From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 17 19:25:42 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id TAA10448 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 19:25:42 -0700 Received: from haven.ios.com (haven.ios.com [198.4.75.45]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA10344 ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 19:21:59 -0700 Received: (from rashid@localhost) by haven.ios.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id WAA26508; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 22:24:40 -0400 From: "Rashid Karimov." Message-Id: <199504180224.WAA26508@haven.ios.com> Subject: Huuuge discrepancy between "last" and "who" To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 22:24:34 -0400 (EDT) Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1207 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi there folx, I run a server ( P90/PCI/etc ) under binaries from SNAP 0210 and almost -current kernel . I posted a Q here , conserning very high amount of telnetds running in the system ( out of pty's finally ) few days ago and now I have other interesting problem : if I run "last" - I c some 50-54 users being logged in, while "who" reports only 25-30 of them ... Is this normal ( I doubt it :) ? It was intersting , since system showed load average at 3-5% with reportedly only 30 online users , so finally after running "ps -axj" I was able to find a LOT of processes belonging to users , which were not logged in , accordingly to "who". Since the processes had rather decent run time , obviously there were not frozen or zombie or whatever. And "last" output shows that thir owners were actually logged in .... =-=-=-= Extra Q ( 2 for the price of 1 ) : sometimes when I start "finger [user]" , the system spends some 40-60 secs till I get the result. And I can see _huuge HDD load on the system. Sometimes it works out in few seconds . The wtmp file size is about 1Mb ( will rotate it ). The passwd file has about 1800 entries. Rashid. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 17 19:34:20 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id TAA10769 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 19:34:20 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id TAA10761 ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 19:34:15 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: "Rashid Karimov." Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Huuuge discrepancy between "last" and "who" In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 17 Apr 95 22:24:34 EDT." <199504180224.WAA26508@haven.ios.com> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 19:34:14 -0700 Message-ID: <10759.798172454@freefall.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk 1. Don't cc both -hackers and -questions. One or the other, please! :-) 2. Don't run the 0210 bins and -current kernel together. It doesn't work very well. A number of kernel structures have changed and the utilities must be compiled to match it. I recommend doing a `make World' from -current. > Hi there folx, > > > I run a server ( P90/PCI/etc ) under binaries from > SNAP 0210 and almost -current kernel . > I posted a Q here , conserning very high amount > of telnetds running in the system ( out of pty's > finally ) few days ago and now I have other interesting > problem : > > if I run "last" - I c some 50-54 users being logged in, > while "who" reports only 25-30 of them ... > Is this normal ( I doubt it :) ? > > It was intersting , since system showed load average > at 3-5% with reportedly only 30 online users , so > finally after running "ps -axj" I was able to find > a LOT of processes belonging to users , which were > not logged in , accordingly to "who". > Since the processes had rather decent run time , > obviously there were not frozen or zombie or whatever. > And "last" output shows that thir owners were actually > logged in .... > > > =-=-=-= Extra Q ( 2 for the price of 1 ) : > > sometimes when I start "finger [user]" , the system > spends some 40-60 secs till I get the result. > And I can see _huuge HDD load on the system. > Sometimes it works out in few seconds . > The wtmp file size is about 1Mb ( will rotate it ). > The passwd file has about 1800 entries. > > > Rashid. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 17 21:02:52 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id VAA13162 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 21:02:52 -0700 Received: from mail.barrnet.net (mail.BARRNET.NET [131.119.246.7]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA13156 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 21:02:51 -0700 Received: from gaia.ucs.orst.edu (gaia.UCS.ORST.EDU [128.193.4.2]) by mail.barrnet.net (8.6.10/MAIL-RELAY-LEN) with ESMTP id LAA04639 for ; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 11:59:51 -0700 Received: from ccmail.orst.edu (ccmail-4.UCS.ORST.EDU [128.193.4.34]) by gaia.ucs.orst.edu (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA00724 for ; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 12:02:59 -0700 Received: from cc:Mail by ccmail.orst.edu id AA797886239; Fri, 14 Apr 95 11:58:52 PST Date: Fri, 14 Apr 95 11:58:52 PST From: "Wayne Hernandez" Message-Id: <9503147978.AA797886239@ccmail.orst.edu> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: 2.1 GB SCSI DIsk won't newfs Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm trying to install 2.0-950322-SNAP (will probably change to the April before the weekend is thru). I can assign the partitions to the drive, but when I tell it to proceed, the system just locks up. I have my system configured as follows: 2.1 GB Seagate "Barracuda" external SCSI ID=2 SONY SDT-4000 DAT Tape Drive SCSI ID=3 w/terminator Maxtor 540MB IDE Drive (300 MB for Dos, rest is FreeBSD) 386DX-40 MB 8 MB Ram SoundBlaster SCSI/Soundcard (recognizes the tapedrive/Harddrive) 3COM 3C503 TP/AUI Port 300, IRQ 3, IOMEM 0xdc000 Intel Ethernet Express PRO TP/BNC (can't get configured yet) Port 320, IRQ 10, IOMEM 0x0, IOSIZE 32768 Is there something I left out? I had no problems installing to the IDE disk, but don't have enough room to load source for compiling a kernel to support the Intel card. Wayne From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 17 21:02:43 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id VAA13152 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 21:02:43 -0700 Received: from mail.barrnet.net (mail.BARRNET.NET [131.119.246.7]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA13146 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 21:02:42 -0700 Received: from tomcat1.tbe.com (tomcat1.tbe.com [140.165.31.1]) by mail.barrnet.net (8.6.10/MAIL-RELAY-LEN) with SMTP id LAA04575 for ; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 11:52:08 -0700 Received: by tomcat1.tbe.com (920330.SGI/920502.SGI.AUTO) for questions@freebsd.org id AA03747; Fri, 14 Apr 95 13:51:33 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Apr 95 13:51:33 -0500 From: dkelly@tomcat1.tbe.com (David Kelly) Message-Id: <9504141851.AA03747@tomcat1.tbe.com> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Telnetd & VersaTerm Problem Reply-To: dkelly@nebula.tbe.com Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk FreeBSD telnetd and VersaTermPRO (Macintosh) do not negotiate a proper connection. Sessions look like this: ^@dkelly 9% who ^@root ttyv0 Apr 14 09:18 dkelly ttyv1 Apr 14 09:37 root ttyv2 Apr 14 09:51 dkelly ttyv3 Apr 14 10:12 dkelly ttyp0 Apr 14 09:31 (PowerMac) dkelly 10% exit ^@dkelly 11% logout I am guessing telnetd sees a null after a VersaTerm \r, shell expands it to ^@ and sends it back out via the telnet connection. I have tried "telnetd -l", "telnetd -k", "telnetd -lk", and just plain "telnetd" without any noticable difference. These changes were effected by editing /etc/inetd.conf and then "kill -hup" to the inetd process, then used "ps -aux" to verify "telnet -whatever" was running when connected. So what is happening? -- David Kelly N4HHE, n4hhe@amsat.org, dkelly@nebula.tbe.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 17 21:05:48 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id VAA13239 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 21:05:48 -0700 Received: from grep.cs.fsu.edu (grep.cs.fsu.edu [128.186.121.152]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA13233 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 21:05:47 -0700 Received: by grep.cs.fsu.edu (8.6.9/56) id AAA18074; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 00:05:22 -0400 Message-Id: <199504180405.AAA18074@grep.cs.fsu.edu> Subject: Re: Remove the BSD MBR To: bmk@dtr.com Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 00:05:21 -0400 (EDT) Cc: u509264@csi.UOttawa.CA, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199504172115.OAA18832@dtr.com> from "bmk@dtr.com" at Apr 17, 95 02:15:41 pm From: bynum@NU.CS.FSU.EDU (Mark J. Bynum) Reply-to: bynum@NU.CS.FSU.EDU X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 485 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > [This is a FAQ] > > From DOS, do FDISK /MBR. This will restore a DOS MBR, and will allow > you to boot from the primary partition (Set it to point to your Boot > Manager partition). > Is there a way to do this in FreeBSD? I have DOS on one disk and FreeBSD on the second disk and fdisk doesn't do write the correct MBR when I do: fdisk 2 /mbr It just writes the MBR to the first disk which is not what I want it to do. Any takers? Thanks, Mark Bynum bynum@cs.fsu.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 17 22:41:17 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA15353 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 22:41:17 -0700 Received: from mail.barrnet.net (mail.BARRNET.NET [131.119.246.7]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA15345 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 22:41:15 -0700 Received: from dorsai.dorsai.org (amanda.dorsai.org [198.3.127.1]) by mail.barrnet.net (8.6.10/MAIL-RELAY-LEN) with SMTP id TAA19914 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 19:33:11 -0700 Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 20:56:51 -0500 From: Toussaint Received: by dorsai.dorsai.org (5.67b/29Dec93-Dorsai Embassy) id AA23756; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 20:56:51 -0500 Message-Id: <199504170156.AA23756@dorsai.dorsai.org> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: need info where to download.. Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk can You give/list for me sites where I can download the FreeBSD 2.0 ehenry@dorsai.org From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 17 22:47:25 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA15547 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 22:47:25 -0700 Received: from mail.barrnet.net (mail.BARRNET.NET [131.119.246.7]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA15541 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 22:47:24 -0700 Received: from salmacis.slip.ais.net (salmacis.slip.ais.net [198.69.214.166]) by mail.barrnet.net (8.6.10/MAIL-RELAY-LEN) with ESMTP id UAA20035 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 20:00:52 -0700 Received: (from cosmos@localhost) by salmacis.slip.ais.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id WAA05723 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 22:08:06 -0500 Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 22:08:06 -0500 From: Cosmos Message-Id: <199504170308.WAA05723@salmacis.slip.ais.net> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: custom freebsd machines Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, I am looking for a custom built workstation for freebsd, anyone make them? thanks From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 17 23:29:09 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id XAA16737 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 23:29:09 -0700 Received: from mail.barrnet.net (mail.BARRNET.NET [131.119.246.7]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA16731 ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 23:29:07 -0700 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by mail.barrnet.net (8.6.10/MAIL-RELAY-LEN) with ESMTP id RAA19329; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 17:42:52 -0700 Received: (from phk@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) id RAA26257; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 17:40:16 -0700 From: Poul-Henning Kamp Message-Id: <199504170040.RAA26257@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: support for Xircom PCMCIA Ethernet adapters? To: todd@water.eng.mcmaster.ca (Todd Pfaff) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 17:40:16 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Todd Pfaff" at Apr 16, 95 02:37:50 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 632 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Is there support for the PCMCIA Xircom Creditcard Ethernet Adapter IIPS > in FreeBSD-2.0, or is anyone working on implementing it? Would it be > compatible with any of the supported PCMCIA Ethernet adapters? If anyone > is working on support for it, I'm willing to test. Alternatively, I could > work on this project if I had the proper technical documentation. Subscribe to hardware@freebsd.org for PCMCIA. You offer will is most welcome :-) -- Poul-Henning Kamp -- TRW Financial Systems, Inc. 'All relevant people are pertinent' && 'All rude people are impertinent' => 'no rude people are relevant' From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 17 23:30:01 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id XAA16772 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 23:30:01 -0700 Received: from mail.barrnet.net (mail.BARRNET.NET [131.119.246.7]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA16766 ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 23:29:57 -0700 Received: from grep.cs.fsu.edu (grep.cs.fsu.edu [128.186.121.152]) by mail.barrnet.net (8.6.10/MAIL-RELAY-LEN) with ESMTP id SAA19401; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 18:09:06 -0700 Received: by grep.cs.fsu.edu (8.6.9/56) id VAA23984; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 21:10:25 -0400 From: Gang-Ryung Uh Message-Id: <199504170110.VAA23984@grep.cs.fsu.edu> Subject: SLIP HELP !! To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 21:10:25 -0400 (EDT) Cc: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl, Piero@Strider.Inet.IT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2113 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk To whom it may concern, I tried to set up the slip connection between my FreeBSD 2.0 R system and one of my school machines I am using the kermit as a dial out tool for Sportster Modem which is accessed by /dev/cua01. Following is my attempt for the slip using kermit: 1) dial out to one of phone lines which are provided by the school. 2) enter username & passwd 3) type 'slip' 4) suspend the kermit session (by typing 'z') 5) as a root 'slattach -h -c -s 57600 /dev/cua01 After the slattach, I can ping any machine at my department. But if I tried to 'telnet ', 'rlogin ', or 'ftp ', then it says 'Connected to ', but does not give any login prompt.. For example, [/usr/users/uh] ftp grep Connected to grep.cs.fsu.edu. [/usr/users/uh] telnet grep Trying 128.186.121.152... Connected to grep.cs.fsu.edu. Escape character is '^]'. , then the process hangs there!!! I have to kill that processes from other window!! I do not know what I did wrong. Following is my interface status: [/usr/users/uh] ifconfig sl0 sl0: flags=9011 mtu 552 inet 128.186.121.205 --> 128.186.121.7 netmask 0xffffff00 After I ping some machines at my school, [/usr/users/uh] netstat -r Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Interface default sl1.cs.fsu.edu UGS 0 38 sl0 localhost localhost UH 1 0 lo0 sl1.cs.fsu.edu jonah.cs.fsu.edu UH 1 55 sl0 jonah.cs.fsu.edu localhost UGHS 8 14808 lo0 My '.kermrc' file looks like this: set modem sportster set line /dev/cua01 set speed 57600 set parity none set flow rts/cts set terminal bytesize 8 set file type binary If anybody had similar problem like me before, then I really appreciate your e-mails. Thanks. Regards, --Uh ---------------------- Uh Gang-Ryung e-mail: uh@cs.fsu.edu Work Phone: 644-3366 ---------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 18 01:23:08 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id BAA23356 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 01:23:08 -0700 Received: from warrane.connect.com.au (warrane.connect.com.au [192.189.54.33]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA23261 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 01:22:38 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by warrane.connect.com.au with UUCP id SAA29842 (8.6.11/IDA-1.6 for questions@FreeBSD.org); Tue, 18 Apr 1995 18:22:17 +1000 Received: from testing.jhbs.com.au (testing.jhbs.com.au [128.102.0.2]) by ubik.jhbs.com.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA135492 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 18:14:41 +1000 Received: (from bens@localhost) by testing.jhbs.com.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id SAA50415; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 18:14:41 +1000 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 18:14:41 +1000 (EET) From: Ben Seaman MIS To: questions FreeBSD Subject: SMC8416T Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I have been trying to configure some SMC Elite cards which I am told are type 8416T (thats whats written on the card). The SMC guy told me that these cards are compatible with the 8216T, but only use 8K memory-mapped I/O rather than the 16K used by the 8216. This is a problem on my FreeBSD2.0 system as the driver thinks they are "SMC8216T" and sets memsize = 16k. When the driver initialises i/o memory it fails at the 8k point. Is there any support for the SMC8416T in one of the later SNAPs, or does anyone out there have an update for if_ed.c to support this card? regards, Ben ************************************************************************* * Ben Seaman bens@jhbs.com.au * * AIX/Network Systems Specialist * * Nettrack Pty Ltd * * * * 61-2-8588527 (work) James Hardie Building Services * * 61-2-4384385 (office) * ************************************************************************* From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 18 01:28:03 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id BAA23899 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 01:28:03 -0700 Received: from zaphod (zaphod.ttu.ee [193.40.254.227]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id BAA23847 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 01:27:37 -0700 Received: from juku.li.ttu.ee by zaphod (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA01891; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 11:28:05 +0300 Received: by juku.li.ttu.ee (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA17029; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 11:26:40 +0300 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 11:26:40 +0300 From: tanel@juku.li.ttu.ee (Tanel Kuusk) Message-Id: <9504180826.AA17029@juku.li.ttu.ee> To: questions@FreeBSD.org, ojeda@cs.ucdavis.edu Subject: Re: Ideal setup with .... X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > What would be an ideal configuration for a PC with 2 101MB HD, 4 MB RAM. > This will not be a multi-boot machine. This will be a stand alone UNIX > machine i.e. what size should my partitions look like and my mountpoints > (on both drives). You can use some generic setup, I think. /dev/?d0a is about 20MB, mounted to /, dev/?d0b is 8-12MB, swap, /dev/?d0e is /usr, the rest of the first disk and /dev/?d1a can be /whatever, the whole disk is ok. I think you can use the GENERIC kernel also without problems, although it may be wise to recompile it with unnecessary things commented out. Tanel From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 18 01:31:56 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id BAA24263 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 01:31:56 -0700 Received: from zaphod (zaphod.ttu.ee [193.40.254.227]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id BAA24223 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 01:31:32 -0700 Received: from juku.li.ttu.ee by zaphod (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA01905; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 11:32:04 +0300 Received: by juku.li.ttu.ee (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA17034; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 11:30:32 +0300 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 11:30:32 +0300 From: tanel@juku.li.ttu.ee (Tanel Kuusk) Message-Id: <9504180830.AA17034@juku.li.ttu.ee> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, splyaski@cmp.com Subject: Re: Netscape X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > 5. As root, > cd /usr/local/netscape > netscape & > > I've got #netscape: Command not found. > What's wrong? How to make it work. BTW, I also tried Beta2, and it also does > not work. Thanks. If your shell is csh, try rehash command, if this doesn't help (root user don't have usually . in the search path) ./netscape. Tanel From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 18 01:34:42 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id BAA24629 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 01:34:42 -0700 Received: from zaphod (zaphod.ttu.ee [193.40.254.227]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id BAA24623 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 01:34:36 -0700 Received: from juku.li.ttu.ee by zaphod (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA01915; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 11:35:14 +0300 Received: by juku.li.ttu.ee (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA17039; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 11:33:49 +0300 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 11:33:49 +0300 From: tanel@juku.li.ttu.ee (Tanel Kuusk) Message-Id: <9504180833.AA17039@juku.li.ttu.ee> To: questions@FreeBSD.org, ddunbar@ipxpress.aws.waii.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Is it possible to change the telnet / login message from: > FreeBSD (bespin.com) (ttyv0) > to: > You idiot! (bespin.com) (ttyv0) > ?? Sure, look at the /etc/geetytab file, find the 'im' property and change FreeBSD there to whatever you want. %h in this string means the hostname and %t - the tty line. Be sure to enter both \r and \n to the end of the string since at login time the terminals are in raw mode. Tanel From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 18 01:36:24 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id BAA24680 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 01:36:24 -0700 Received: from zaphod (zaphod.ttu.ee [193.40.254.227]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id BAA24670 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 01:36:18 -0700 Received: from juku.li.ttu.ee by zaphod (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA01944; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 11:36:35 +0300 Received: by juku.li.ttu.ee (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA17044; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 11:35:09 +0300 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 11:35:09 +0300 From: tanel@juku.li.ttu.ee (Tanel Kuusk) Message-Id: <9504180835.AA17044@juku.li.ttu.ee> To: questions@FreeBSD.org, raj@hpisrdq.cup.hp.com Subject: Re: dd instead of rawrite? X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Is it possible to use "dd" on a running FreeBSD system instead of > rawrite on a DOS system to make the boot floppies? Should I target a > specific partition of "fd?" Sure it is. The target must be either /dev/fd?d or /dev/fd?.1440 `Tanel From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 18 02:54:53 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id CAA28412 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 02:54:53 -0700 Received: from kathryn.mikom.csir.co.za (some.schmuck.lame.delegated.to.RAIN.PSG.COM [146.64.28.84]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id CAA28406 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 02:54:46 -0700 Received: (from edebruin@localhost) by kathryn.mikom.csir.co.za (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA00504 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 13:58:20 +0200 From: Etienne de Bruin Message-Id: <199504181158.NAA00504@kathryn.mikom.csir.co.za> Subject: PPP Dialscript. To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 13:58:19 +0200 (SAT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 708 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have FreeBSD 2.0-Development with 0322 SNAPSHOT. I have a US Robotics 14,400 Sportster Modem. I am using PPP written by Toshiharu OHNO. (I want to get the dial on demand going). When working with the ppp.conf file, I have to set the dial string, anyone know what the correct dialstring is? At the mo' it is set at: default: set device /dev/cua01 set speed 38400 disable lqr deny lqr set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" AT OK-AT-OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT" but this does nothing, when I try a dial, the modem does not dial and a dial failed is returned. Any help? -- Etienne de Bruin, MIKOMTEK/CSIR, Republic of South Africa Somebody, Somewhere is gonna Praise His Name. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 18 06:19:14 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA03320 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 06:19:14 -0700 Received: from grumpy.ksc.nasa.gov (grumpy.ksc.nasa.gov [163.205.105.54]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id GAA03312 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 06:19:11 -0700 Received: by grumpy.ksc.nasa.gov (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA08658; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 09:12:38 -0400 From: kcw@grumpy.ksc.nasa.gov (Ken Whedbee) Message-Id: <9504181312.AA08658@grumpy.ksc.nasa.gov> Subject: PPP and dynamic IPs To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 18 Apr 95 9:12:38 EDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I guess this question isn't really FreeBSD specific, but I thought you guys would know best. I'm connecting to the internet (from FreeBSD2.0 patched) through a dialup PPP (Internet Service Provider) account which assigns an IP number dynamically. My question is, do I have to setup anything in my /etc/hosts and /etc/host.conf files or should my machine become aware of its IP automagically ? Do I need to specify my hostname in the /etc/hosts file ? What order should DNS lookup and /etc/hosts lookup be in the /etc/host.conf file ? I was tring to talk to the ISP's nntp server (telnet to the port number) and it was saying "host not in nntp access file .. error code 502". The ISP claims their floating IPs are in the nntp access file. If I ping myself it shows the dynamically assigned IP. Any insights ? -- Ken Whedbee From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 18 06:37:18 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA04159 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 06:37:18 -0700 Received: from hda.com (hda.com [199.232.40.182]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA04121 ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 06:36:57 -0700 Received: (dufault@localhost) by hda.com (8.6.9/8.3) id JAA03444; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 09:35:08 -0400 From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199504181335.JAA03444@hda.com> Subject: Re: support for Xircom PCMCIA Ethernet adapters? To: jkh@freefall.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 09:35:07 -0400 (EDT) Cc: hosokawa@mt.cs.keio.ac.jp, nc@ain.charm.net, todd@water.eng.mcmaster.ca, questions@FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <28748.798159038@freefall.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Apr 17, 95 03:50:38 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 617 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jordan K. Hubbard writes: > > 2. We free software folks REALLY don't even want to see the document that > Xircom makes you sign to get ahold of the downloadable code. It's > pretty scary. Are we "free software people"? I'm an "unrestricted software person". Personally, I'm not out to change the world and other than the drawback of having only one group for support I see no reason why we shouldn't behave the same way as BSDI. Peter -- Peter Dufault Real Time Machine Control and Simulation HD Associates, Inc. Voice: 508 433 6936 dufault@hda.com Fax: 508 433 5267 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 18 07:24:05 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id HAA08336 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 07:24:05 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id HAA08328 ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 07:24:01 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Peter Dufault cc: hosokawa@mt.cs.keio.ac.jp, nc@ain.charm.net, todd@water.eng.mcmaster.ca, questions@FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: support for Xircom PCMCIA Ethernet adapters? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 18 Apr 95 09:35:07 EDT." <199504181335.JAA03444@hda.com> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 07:24:01 -0700 Message-ID: <8327.798215041@freefall.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Free software people don't just have "change the world" issues to deal with. There are other hazards to signing an NDA. Jordan > Jordan K. Hubbard writes: > > > > 2. We free software folks REALLY don't even want to see the document that > > Xircom makes you sign to get ahold of the downloadable code. It's > > pretty scary. > > Are we "free software people"? I'm an "unrestricted software > person". > > Personally, I'm not out to change the world and other than the > drawback of having only one group for support I see no reason why > we shouldn't behave the same way as BSDI. > > Peter > > -- > Peter Dufault Real Time Machine Control and Simulation > HD Associates, Inc. Voice: 508 433 6936 > dufault@hda.com Fax: 508 433 5267 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 18 07:34:36 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id HAA08701 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 07:34:36 -0700 Received: from kksys.skypoint.net (kksys.skypoint.net [199.86.32.5]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id HAA08694 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 07:34:33 -0700 Received: from starfire.mn.org by kksys.skypoint.net with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0s1DPA-00028vC; Tue, 18 Apr 95 08:33 CDT Received: (from john@localhost) by starfire.mn.org (8.6.8/1.2.1) id JAA17281 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 09:33:48 -0500 From: John Lind Message-Id: <199504181433.JAA17281@starfire.mn.org> Subject: pppd not re-connecting with FreeBSD 2.0-950322-SNAP To: questions@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD questions) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 09:33:47 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1130 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have the following command at the end of /etc/rc.local to start up a PPP uplink for a customer to the Internet: /usr/sbin/pppd connect /etc/ppp/call.skypoint defaultroute /dev/cuaa0 115200 The "call.skypoint" script usese chat(1) to establish the link and negotiate a login to the Portmaster terminal server. Here is the contents of the "/etc/ppp/options" file: crtscts modem lock It works great -- brings up the link right after booting and things seem happy -- until the link drops, and then, unlike the slattach that I am more used to, it doesn't bring it up again. Since I am on the other side of the link, I am unable to see anything about the system state at that time. Does pppd not reconnect? Does it just exit and that's it? Do I need some sort of script to detect when pppd exits and re-issue the command to start it? Or is there an option that I missed that will instruct it to reconnect? I have read the man page on pppd and the ppp.FAQ, but didn't get any help on this issue from either one... John Lind, Starfire Consulting Services E-mail: john@starfire.MN.ORG USnail: PO Box 17247, Mpls MN 55417 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 18 08:23:26 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA09589 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 08:23:26 -0700 Received: from hpanalog.mdc.com (HPANALOG.MDC.COM [130.38.16.213]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA09582 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 08:23:24 -0700 Message-Id: <199504181523.IAA09582@freefall.cdrom.com> Received: by hpanalog.mdc.com (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA01407; Tue, 18 Apr 95 09:56:32 -0500 From: Mike Heitmann Subject: Re: dd instead of rawrite? To: raj@hpisrdq.cup.hp.com (Rick Jones) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 95 9:56:31 CDT Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9504180212.AA27867@hpisrdq.cup.hp.com>; from "Rick Jones" at Apr 17, 95 7:12 pm Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > Dear questions - > > Is it possible to use "dd" on a running FreeBSD system instead of > rawrite on a DOS system to make the boot floppies? Should I target a > specific partition of "fd?" > > thanks muchly, > > rick jones > Yes! I use somthing like dd if=input_file_name of=/dev/rfd0a to make floppy images. Check the man page on dd for correct command syntax, it's been a while since I've made any, but I know it works, and it's faster than using rawrite. examples: dd if=boot_144.flp of=/dev/rfd0a dd if=cpio.flp of=/dev/rfd0a -- Mike Heitmann Internet: mike@hpanalog.mdc.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 18 08:43:36 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA10025 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 08:43:36 -0700 Received: from netserv2.free.net (netserv2.free.net [147.45.15.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA10019 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 08:43:23 -0700 Received: from itp.ac.ru by netserv2.free.net with SMTP id AA00145 (5.65c8/EM.01/IDA-1.4.4 for questions@freebsd.org); Tue, 18 Apr 1995 19:42:06 +0400 Received: from localhost (sakr@localhost) by itp.ac.ru (8.6.5/8.6.5) id TAA12845 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 19:39:42 +0400 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 19:39:42 +0400 From: "Serge A. Krashakov" Posted-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 19:39:42 +0400 Message-Id: <199504181539.TAA12845@itp.ac.ru> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: QUOTA needed Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I have a several computer running FreeBSD 2.0-950322-SNAP (and previous versions) and I need automatic QUOTA control as it is realized in VAX VMS: each user has some predefined disk usage quota which can not be exceeded. But after recompiling kernel with options QUOTA, editing fstab, abd executing quotaon my system behaves very strange, and hangs up after following operations with quota commands and quoted filesystem. Could somebody help me? Thanks in advance, Serge Krashakov From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 18 08:49:05 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA10098 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 08:49:05 -0700 Received: from specgw.spec.co.jp (specgw.spec.co.jp [202.32.13.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA10090 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 08:48:53 -0700 Received: from localhost (uucp@localhost) by specgw.spec.co.jp (8.6.5/3.3Wb-SPEC) with UUCP id AAA24779; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 00:38:06 +0900 Received: by tama.spec.co.jp (8.6.11/6.4J.5) id AAA00741; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 00:24:08 +0900 From: Atsushi Murai Message-Id: <199504181524.AAA00741@tama.spec.co.jp> Subject: Re: PPP Dialscript. To: edebruin@kathryn.mikom.csir.co.za (Etienne de Bruin) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 00:24:08 +0900 (JST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199504181158.NAA00504@kathryn.mikom.csir.co.za> from "Etienne de Bruin" at Apr 18, 95 01:58:19 pm Reply-To: amurai@spec.co.jp X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1221 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk What a dengerous days in Tokyo area ;-) Anyway.. > When working with the ppp.conf file, I have to set > the dial string, anyone know what the correct dialstring > is? > > At the mo' it is set at: > > default: > set device /dev/cua01 > set speed 38400 > disable lqr > deny lqr > set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" AT OK-AT-OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT" > > but this does nothing, when I try a dial, the modem does not dial and a > dial failed is returned. > > Any help? Too few information is bring me increase assumption. But Check your modem setup for reponse with a result words. Try follows: set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIR TIMEOUT 5 \"\" ATE1Q0 OK-AT-OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT" You may also try to "Manual Dialing" as show in man page. If you still not succeed, please attach a /var/log/ppp.log. "ATE1Q0" try to setup a Echo back and Respons a result words(codes). > -- > Etienne de Bruin, MIKOMTEK/CSIR, Republic of South Africa > Somebody, Somewhere is gonna Praise His Name. Good Luck. Atsushi. -- Atsushi Murai Internet: amurai@spec.co.jp System Planning and Engineering Co,.Ltd. Voice : +81-33833-5341 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 18 09:12:03 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA10410 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 09:12:03 -0700 Received: from jupiter.avsi.com (jupiter.avsi.com [199.100.190.6]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA10403 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 09:12:01 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jupiter.avsi.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA04541 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 12:13:22 -0400 Message-Id: <199504181613.MAA04541@jupiter.avsi.com> X-Authentication-Warning: jupiter.avsi.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol From: Allyn Hardyck To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: perl and getstats Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 12:13:21 -0400 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The perl in /usr/bin/perl can't seem to find getopts.pl in /usr/lib/perl when it's asked for in require statements. Where are the default include directories for that perl? Also, why are there two getstat processes running on the system? They're part of the procfs implementation right? They seem to be keeping the load at around 2. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 18 09:14:25 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA10447 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 09:14:25 -0700 Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA10441 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 09:14:23 -0700 Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA26484; Tue, 18 Apr 95 16:14:09 GMT Received: from junco.fsl.noaa.gov by yarmouth.fsl.noaa.gov (1.37.109.16/SMI-4.1 (1.37.109.16)) id AA161111632; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 12:13:52 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 12:13:52 -0400 From: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Message-Id: <199504181613.AA161111632@yarmouth.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by junco.fsl.noaa.gov (1.37.109.16/SMI-4.1 (1.37.109.16)) id AA275671655; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 10:14:15 -0600 To: kcw@grumpy.ksc.nasa.gov Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9504181312.AA08658@grumpy.ksc.nasa.gov> (kcw@grumpy.ksc.nasa.gov) Subject: Re: PPP and dynamic IPs Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Ken" == Ken Whedbee writes: Ken> I'm connecting to the internet (from FreeBSD2.0 patched) Ken> through a dialup PPP (Internet Service Provider) account Ken> which assigns an IP number dynamically. Same here, although at work we're supposedly getting permanently assigned IP addresses for our home hosts ... waiting ... waiting ... Ken> My question is, do I have to setup anything in my /etc/hosts Ken> and /etc/host.conf files or should my machine become aware of Ken> its IP automagically ? Nah, no need to do anything special. Ken> Do I need to specify my hostname in the /etc/hosts file ? Pick any host name and IP address you want. Ken> What order should DNS lookup and /etc/hosts lookup be in the Ken> /etc/host.conf file ? I think any order will work; but I use /etc/hosts first for when I'm not connected to my service provider. Ken> I was tring to talk to the ISP's nntp server (telnet to the Ken> port number) and it was saying "host not in nntp access file Ken> .. error code 502". The ISP claims their floating IPs are in Ken> the nntp access file. They're lying. Ken> If I ping myself it shows the dynamically assigned IP. Good. Ken> Any insights ? I haven't had a good insight in years. -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Lab, Boulder Colorado USA If they ever come up with a swashbuckling school, I think one of the courses should be Laughing, Then Jumping Off Something. -- Jack Handey From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 18 09:48:24 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA11759 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 09:48:24 -0700 Received: from specgw.spec.co.jp (specgw.spec.co.jp [202.32.13.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA11753 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 09:48:19 -0700 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by specgw.spec.co.jp (8.6.5/3.3Wb-SPEC) with UUCP id BAA25544; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 01:30:40 +0900 Received: by tama.spec.co.jp (8.6.11/6.4J.5) id BAA01449; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 01:25:11 +0900 From: Atsushi Murai Message-Id: <199504181625.BAA01449@tama.spec.co.jp> Subject: Re: PPP and dynamic IPs To: kcw@grumpy.ksc.nasa.gov (Ken Whedbee) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 01:25:10 +0900 (JST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9504181312.AA08658@grumpy.ksc.nasa.gov> from "Ken Whedbee" at Apr 18, 95 09:12:38 am Reply-To: amurai@spec.co.jp X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1839 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello. I am sleepy....But.... > I'm connecting to the internet (from FreeBSD2.0 patched) through > a dialup PPP (Internet Service Provider) account which assigns > an IP number dynamically. My question is, do I have to setup > anything in my /etc/hosts and /etc/host.conf files or should my > machine become aware of its IP automagically ? > Do I need to specify my hostname in the /etc/hosts file ? If you are using ppp/pppd on your FreeBSD2.0, they will negotiate to peer (Provider) for your and|or Peer IP address each other. In your case, you just set up Provider IP address as permanent and your IP is given by your Provider. The key is you just need your IP address and Provider IP address as default route but not your name (i.e. tama.spec.co.jp) on your side. > What order should DNS lookup and /etc/hosts lookup be in the /etc/host.conf > file ? So doesn't matter not exist your IP address/IP name pair in these file. > I was tring to talk to the ISP's nntp server (telnet to the port number) > and it was saying "host not in nntp access file .. error code 502". > The ISP claims their floating IPs are in the nntp access file. If I > ping myself it shows the dynamically assigned IP. On Provider side, ppp will assign your IP address as Dynamically and Your IP name should be assined as *statically*. Otherwise they can't provide a service indivually site/person....Addition, specifically with NNTP, Only containing your IP name in nntp access file but not IP address, right? > Any insights ? Ask the provider this point, if they can't resolve, I recommend you should better choosing other provider... > -- > Ken Whedbee Good Luck and night... Atsushi. -- Atsushi Murai Internet: amurai@spec.co.jp System Planning and Engineering Co,.Ltd. Voice : +81-33833-5341 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 18 10:44:01 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA12591 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 10:44:01 -0700 Received: from ess.harris.com (su15a.ess.harris.com [130.41.1.251]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA12581 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 10:43:58 -0700 Received: from borg.ess.harris.com (suw2k.ess.harris.com) by ess.harris.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA23619; Tue, 18 Apr 95 13:43:45 EDT Received: by borg.ess.harris.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05651; Tue, 18 Apr 95 13:41:38 EDT Date: Tue, 18 Apr 95 13:41:38 EDT From: jleppek@suw2k.ess.harris.com (James Leppek) Message-Id: <9504181741.AA05651@borg.ess.harris.com> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: PPP and dynamic IPs drifting a little Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Speaking of IP's I was responding to this mail and recalled the words of wisdom in the /etc/hosts file about selecting private IPs from a set of reserved numbers that are never to appear on the net and getting valid numbers if you are on the net. It had mentioned 192.168.0.0-192.168.255.255 as reserved. Well, I tried to ping those to confirm they are never in use and I got an answer! Then I tried 192.168.1.2 and it answered!! So what is the scoop on those numbers and RFC1597? Jim Leppek > From owner-freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Tue Apr 18 12:32:25 1995 > Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 12:13:52 -0400 > From: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) > To: kcw@grumpy.ksc.nasa.gov > Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org > Subject: Re: PPP and dynamic IPs > Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org > > >>>>> "Ken" == Ken Whedbee writes: > > Ken> I'm connecting to the internet (from FreeBSD2.0 patched) > Ken> through a dialup PPP (Internet Service Provider) account > Ken> which assigns an IP number dynamically. > > Same here, although at work we're supposedly getting permanently > assigned IP addresses for our home hosts ... waiting ... waiting ... > > Ken> My question is, do I have to setup anything in my /etc/hosts > Ken> and /etc/host.conf files or should my machine become aware of > Ken> its IP automagically ? > > Nah, no need to do anything special. > > Ken> Do I need to specify my hostname in the /etc/hosts file ? > > Pick any host name and IP address you want. > > Ken> What order should DNS lookup and /etc/hosts lookup be in the > Ken> /etc/host.conf file ? > > I think any order will work; but I use /etc/hosts first for when I'm > not connected to my service provider. > > Ken> I was tring to talk to the ISP's nntp server (telnet to the > Ken> port number) and it was saying "host not in nntp access file > Ken> .. error code 502". The ISP claims their floating IPs are in > Ken> the nntp access file. > > They're lying. > > Ken> If I ping myself it shows the dynamically assigned IP. > > Good. > > Ken> Any insights ? > > I haven't had a good insight in years. > > -- > Sean Kelly > NOAA Forecast Systems Lab, Boulder Colorado USA > > If they ever come up with a swashbuckling school, I think one of the > courses should be Laughing, Then Jumping Off Something. > -- Jack Handey > From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 18 10:56:38 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA12824 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 10:56:38 -0700 Received: from ain.charm.net (ain.charm.net [198.69.35.206]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA12818 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 10:56:33 -0700 Received: (from nc@localhost) by ain.charm.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA28797; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 13:49:46 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 13:49:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Network Coordinator To: Don Dunbar cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <199504172257.AA28615@ipxpress.aws.waii.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 17 Apr 1995, Don Dunbar wrote: > Is it possible to change the telnet / login message from: > FreeBSD (bespin.com) (ttyv0) > to: > You idiot! (bespin.com) (ttyv0) > ?? This should be in the FAQ, if its not. Do a man on gettytab. You can control that as well as many other things. -Jerry. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 18 10:58:30 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA12867 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 10:58:30 -0700 Received: from ain.charm.net (ain.charm.net [198.69.35.206]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA12856 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 10:58:23 -0700 Received: (from nc@localhost) by ain.charm.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA28815; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 13:52:54 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 13:52:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Network Coordinator To: "Mark J. Bynum" cc: bmk@dtr.com, u509264@csi.UOttawa.CA, questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Remove the BSD MBR In-Reply-To: <199504180405.AAA18074@grep.cs.fsu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > fdisk 2 /mbr > > It just writes the MBR to the first disk which is not what I want it to do. > To my knowledge, the only MBR that actually matters is the one that is on logical drive 0. Period. -Jerry. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 18 11:36:47 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA14380 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 11:36:47 -0700 Received: from eta.cs.fsu.edu (eta.cs.fsu.edu [128.186.121.11]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA14374 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 11:36:45 -0700 Received: by eta.cs.fsu.edu (8.6.9/56) id OAA23830; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 14:35:47 -0400 Message-Id: <199504181835.OAA23830@eta.cs.fsu.edu> Subject: Re: Remove the BSD MBR To: nc@ain.charm.net (Network Coordinator) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 14:35:46 -0400 (EDT) Cc: bynum@NU.CS.FSU.EDU, bmk@dtr.com, u509264@csi.UOttawa.CA, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Network Coordinator" at Apr 18, 95 01:52:53 pm From: bynum@NU.CS.FSU.EDU (Mark J. Bynum) Reply-to: bynum@NU.CS.FSU.EDU X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 652 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > fdisk 2 /mbr > > > > It just writes the MBR to the first disk which is not what I want it to do. > > > > To my knowledge, the only MBR that actually matters is the one that is on > logical drive 0. Period. > Well on my system I have to go through a two-stage boot with the boot manager: 1) boot to disk two and 2) to boot FreeBSD on disk two. I remember having a one-stage boot once before where I just selected FreeBSD from the first boot manager and it would start FreeBSD from the second drive. I tried doing a fdisk -i on the second disk and couldn't get it to work, i.e. the boot manager on the second drive was still there. Mark Bynum From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 18 13:00:22 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA16264 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 13:00:22 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA16248 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 13:00:17 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA14683; Tue, 18 Apr 95 13:53:49 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9504181953.AA14683@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: PPP and dynamic IPs drifting a little To: jleppek@suw2k.ess.harris.com (James Leppek) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 95 13:53:49 MDT Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9504181741.AA05651@borg.ess.harris.com> from "James Leppek" at Apr 18, 95 01:41:38 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Speaking of IP's I was responding to this mail and recalled > the words of wisdom in the /etc/hosts file about selecting > private IPs from a set of reserved numbers that are never > to appear on the net and getting valid numbers if > you are on the net. It had mentioned 192.168.0.0-192.168.255.255 > as reserved. > > Well, I tried to ping those to confirm they are never in use and > I got an answer! Then I tried 192.168.1.2 and it answered!! > > So what is the scoop on those numbers and RFC1597? [rs0.internic.net] IANA (IANA-CBLK-RESERVED) Internet Assigned Numbers Authority Information Sciences Institute University of Southern California 4676 Admiralty Way, Suite 1001 Marina del Rey, CA 90292-6695 Netname: IANA-CBLK1 Netblock: 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.0 Coordinator: Reynolds, Joyce K. (JKR1) JKRey@ISI.EDU (310) 822-1511 Domain System inverse mapping provided by: NS.ISI.EDU 128.9.128.127 DNS.MERIT.NET 35.1.1.42 Record last updated on 01-Nov-94. Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 18 13:00:52 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA16284 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 13:00:52 -0700 Received: from aero.org (aero.org [130.221.16.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA16275 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 13:00:45 -0700 Received: from antares.aero.org ([130.221.192.46]) by aero.org with SMTP id <111105-1>; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 13:00:06 -0700 Received: from anpiel.aero.org by antares.aero.org (4.1/AMS-1.0) id AA27823 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 18 Apr 95 12:59:52 PDT To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Is 'groff' broken? Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 12:59:42 -0700 From: "Mike O'Brien" Message-Id: <95Apr18.130006pdt.111105-1@aero.org> Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Was anything done to 'groff' on its way to the 2.0R release? I tried to run off some man pages for a package whose man pages were in -me format, and it didn't work bigtime. The -me macro package in the tmac library seemed to have been renamed, and didn't work all that well when it was renamed back. Mike O'Brien From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 18 13:41:56 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA17767 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 13:41:56 -0700 Received: from ess.harris.com (su15a.ess.harris.com [130.41.1.251]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA17756 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 13:41:50 -0700 Received: from borg.ess.harris.com (suw2k.ess.harris.com) by ess.harris.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA24834; Tue, 18 Apr 95 16:41:45 EDT Received: by borg.ess.harris.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06053; Tue, 18 Apr 95 16:39:39 EDT Date: Tue, 18 Apr 95 16:39:39 EDT From: jleppek@suw2k.ess.harris.com (James Leppek) Message-Id: <9504182039.AA06053@borg.ess.harris.com> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: invalid IPs Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ok what does this mean? that something should respond to a ping or not? I thought the reason these numbers were reserved was that everyone(routers) were supposed to ignore them if they ever appeared on the internet. So if I do traceroute and someone in the 204.157 domain is responding does that mean something is a miss? or that they were given the numbers... I have been telling folks to use those reserved numbers for their private networks because they should/would never appear on the net. I guess I was wrong :-( Oh well, lost count of my mistakes long ago :-) Jim Leppek > From owner-freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Tue Apr 18 16:23:36 1995 > From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) > Subject: Re: PPP and dynamic IPs drifting a little > To: jleppek@suw2k.ess.harris.com (James Leppek) > Date: Tue, 18 Apr 95 13:53:49 MDT > Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org > X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] > Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org > > > Speaking of IP's I was responding to this mail and recalled > > the words of wisdom in the /etc/hosts file about selecting > > private IPs from a set of reserved numbers that are never > > to appear on the net and getting valid numbers if > > you are on the net. It had mentioned 192.168.0.0-192.168.255.255 > > as reserved. > > > > Well, I tried to ping those to confirm they are never in use and > > I got an answer! Then I tried 192.168.1.2 and it answered!! > > > > So what is the scoop on those numbers and RFC1597? > > [rs0.internic.net] > IANA (IANA-CBLK-RESERVED) > Internet Assigned Numbers Authority > Information Sciences Institute > University of Southern California > 4676 Admiralty Way, Suite 1001 > Marina del Rey, CA 90292-6695 > > Netname: IANA-CBLK1 > Netblock: 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.0 > > Coordinator: > Reynolds, Joyce K. (JKR1) JKRey@ISI.EDU > (310) 822-1511 > > Domain System inverse mapping provided by: > > NS.ISI.EDU 128.9.128.127 > DNS.MERIT.NET 35.1.1.42 > > Record last updated on 01-Nov-94. > > > Terry Lambert > terry@cs.weber.edu > --- > Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present > or previous employers. > From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 18 14:12:07 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA18859 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 14:12:07 -0700 Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id OAA18852 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 14:12:04 -0700 Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA28724; Tue, 18 Apr 95 21:11:50 GMT Received: from junco.fsl.noaa.gov by yarmouth.fsl.noaa.gov (1.37.109.16/SMI-4.1 (1.37.109.16)) id AA018019477; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 21:11:17 GMT Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 21:11:17 GMT From: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Message-Id: <199504182111.AA018019477@yarmouth.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by junco.fsl.noaa.gov (1.37.109.16/SMI-4.1 (1.37.109.16)) id AA003249518; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 15:11:58 -0600 To: jleppek@suw2k.ess.harris.com Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9504181741.AA05651@borg.ess.harris.com> (jleppek@suw2k.ess.harris.com) Subject: Re: PPP and dynamic IPs drifting a little Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "James" == James Leppek writes: James> Well, I tried to ping those to confirm they are never in James> use and I got an answer! Then I tried 192.168.1.2 and it James> answered!! Aye. Apparantly, it's only reachable from certain paths on the net. Some routers recognize the reserved addresses and won't route through. I wonder what it is ... -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Lab, Boulder Colorado USA TASK: Go the the store. In Macintosh System 7: You get in the car to go to the store, and the car drives you to church. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 18 14:24:26 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA19335 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 14:24:26 -0700 Received: from ain.charm.net (ain.charm.net [198.69.35.206]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA19328 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 14:24:22 -0700 Received: (from nc@localhost) by ain.charm.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA20410; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 17:19:16 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 17:19:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Network Coordinator To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Dynamic Slip/PPP with FreeBSD Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk After reading the Slip Server Faq, my question is, (as the subject line suggests) how would I go about setting up dynamic addressed slip/PPP connections? It seems like sort of a pain to generate a new static IP address for each and every account that can use slip. Thanks for any suggestions, they are appreciated, -Jerry. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 18 15:19:33 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA20999 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 15:19:33 -0700 Received: from grendel.csc.smith.edu (grendel.csc.smith.edu [131.229.222.23]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA20992 ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 15:19:28 -0700 Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by grendel.csc.smith.edu (8.6.5/8.6.5) id SAA23561; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 18:20:21 -0400 From: jfieber@cs.smith.edu (John Fieber) Message-Id: <199504182220.SAA23561@grendel.csc.smith.edu> Subject: Re: httpd - security problem? (question, not a statement) To: nc@ain.charm.net (Network Coordinator) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 18:20:20 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-security@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Network Coordinator" at Apr 12, 95 07:18:43 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 701 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Network Coordinator writes: > I remember reading somewhere that there is a bug in a number of port 80 > daemons that would allow someone to gain root access remotely through it. > I know there is a bug when using httpd with Satan v1.0 (well, for as much > as a I trust CERT), but when not running Satan, is there any harm in > letting cern_httpd v3.0 run in standalone (full-time) mode [as root, no > less]. There was a bug in the NCSA http server which has since been fixed. I'm not currently aware of any problems with the CERN server. -john === jfieber@cs.smith.edu ================================================ =================================== Come up and be a kite! --K. Bush === From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 18 15:55:42 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA26520 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 15:55:42 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA26514 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 15:55:41 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA15657; Tue, 18 Apr 95 16:49:06 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9504182249.AA15657@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: invalid IPs To: jleppek@suw2k.ess.harris.com (James Leppek) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 95 16:49:05 MDT Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9504182039.AA06053@borg.ess.harris.com> from "James Leppek" at Apr 18, 95 04:39:39 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Ok what does this mean? that something should respond to a ping or not? > > I thought the reason these numbers were reserved was that everyone(routers) > were supposed to ignore them if they ever appeared on the internet. > > So if I do traceroute and someone in the 204.157 domain is responding > does that mean something is a miss? or that they were given the numbers... > > I have been telling folks to use those reserved numbers for their private > networks because they should/would never appear on the net. It means that everything between you and them is broken. They are not supposed to be externally routed. Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 18 17:00:24 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA27926 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 17:00:24 -0700 Received: from ain.charm.net (ain.charm.net [198.69.35.206]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA27920 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 17:00:21 -0700 Received: (from nc@localhost) by ain.charm.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) id TAA00624; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 19:55:03 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 19:55:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Network Coordinator To: James Leppek cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: PPP and dynamic IPs drifting a little In-Reply-To: <9504181741.AA05651@borg.ess.harris.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 18 Apr 1995, James Leppek wrote: > Speaking of IP's I was responding to this mail and recalled > the words of wisdom in the /etc/hosts file about selecting > private IPs from a set of reserved numbers that are never > to appear on the net and getting valid numbers if > you are on the net. It had mentioned 192.168.0.0-192.168.255.255 > as reserved. > > Well, I tried to ping those to confirm they are never in use and > I got an answer! Then I tried 192.168.1.2 and it answered!! > It looks like its connected to : 204.157.71.1 which in turn is connected to 204.157.32.24 which in turn is connected to Net99 in portland. My guess is that 204.15.71.1 acts as a gateway between someone's private network and they keep an alias of 192.168.1.2 that got advertised to the whole world. -Jerry. > So what is the scoop on those numbers and RFC1597? > > Jim Leppek From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 18 17:06:39 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA28077 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 17:06:39 -0700 Received: from ain.charm.net (ain.charm.net [198.69.35.206]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA28068 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 17:06:36 -0700 Received: (from nc@localhost) by ain.charm.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) id UAA01295; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 20:01:24 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 20:01:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Network Coordinator To: James Leppek cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: invalid IPs In-Reply-To: <9504182039.AA06053@borg.ess.harris.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 18 Apr 1995, James Leppek wrote: > > Ok what does this mean? that something should respond to a ping or not? > > I thought the reason these numbers were reserved was that everyone(routers) > were supposed to ignore them if they ever appeared on the internet. > > So if I do traceroute and someone in the 204.157 domain is responding > does that mean something is a miss? or that they were given the numbers... > > I have been telling folks to use those reserved numbers for their private > networks because they should/would never appear on the net. I guess I was > wrong :-( > Oh well, lost count of my mistakes long ago :-) > As a matter of fact. There is a system called zod.clark.net that is completely announced to the whole world that has the address: 192.245.235.1. And the 192 net is reserved completely and utterly. Go figure... -Jerry. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 18 18:30:34 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id SAA29773 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 18:30:34 -0700 Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id SAA29765 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 18:30:33 -0700 Received: from crevenia.parc.xerox.com ([13.2.116.11]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <14419(5)>; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 18:02:56 PDT Received: from localhost by crevenia.parc.xerox.com with SMTP id <49864>; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 18:02:49 -0700 X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6epsilon 4/13/95 To: jleppek@suw2k.ess.harris.com (James Leppek) cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, karl@mcs.net, kozowski@structured.net Subject: Re: PPP and dynamic IPs drifting a little In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 18 Apr 95 10:41:38 PDT." <9504181741.AA05651@borg.ess.harris.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 18:02:35 PDT From: Bill Fenner Message-Id: <95Apr18.180249pdt.49864@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <9504181741.AA05651@borg.ess.harris.com> you write: >Well, I tried to ping those to confirm they are never in use and >I got an answer! Then I tried 192.168.1.2 and it answered!! > >So what is the scoop on those numbers and RFC1597? It looks like structured.net and net99 are advertising 192.168.1.x to the Internet (well, MAE-EAST, at least), in violation of RFC1597. They should stop. Bill From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 18 20:03:18 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id UAA02950 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 20:03:18 -0700 Received: from glueserv1.umd.edu (glueserv1.umd.edu [129.2.70.69]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA02944 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 20:03:15 -0700 Received: from espresso.eng.umd.edu (espresso.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.13]) by glueserv1.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id XAA19365; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 23:03:13 -0400 Received: (chuckr@localhost) by espresso.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) id XAA12423; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 23:03:12 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 23:03:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: "Mike O'Brien" cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Is 'groff' broken? In-Reply-To: <95Apr18.130006pdt.111105-1@aero.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 18 Apr 1995, Mike O'Brien wrote: > Was anything done to 'groff' on its way to the 2.0R release? > I tried to run off some man pages for a package whose man pages > were in -me format, and it didn't work bigtime. The -me macro > package in the tmac library seemed to have been renamed, and didn't > work all that well when it was renamed back. > > Mike O'Brien > I always had trouble, until I found that if I used the -a on troff turned out garbage. To get a good ascii output, you have to use -Tascii. When I used that, I always get a good output. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 7608 Topton St. | New Carrollton, MD 20784 | I run Journey2 (Freebsd 2.0) and n3lxx (301) 459-2316 | (FreeBSD 1.1.5.1) and am I happy! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 18 20:10:07 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id UAA03211 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 20:10:07 -0700 Received: from ns.radom.mplik.ru (radom.mplik.ru [193.124.189.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id UAA03183 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 20:09:44 -0700 Received: by ns.radom.mplik.ru id AA01002 (5.65.kiae-1 for questions@FreeBSD.org); Wed, 19 Apr 1995 14:05:17 GMT Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 14:05:17 GMT From: "Alexander Yu.Borunov" Message-Id: <199504191405.AA01002@ns.radom.mplik.ru> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Help Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello Misters ! I have a problem with installing FreeBSD 2.0 After making big DOS partition on every disk , I've repeat install FreeBSD 2.0 I have next message: F1 . . . FreeBSD Default F? Pressing _any_ keys don't get any result. That's all ! Computer - Intel X-press MX (Ireland) Pentium 66, EISA, 8 Mb RAM (for beginning) My SCSI: Adaptec AIC-7770 BIOS v2.0 Release It is located on my computer's board. Also, I have Quantum 540 - 2740 cyl, 4 heads, 96 sec - says me FreeBSD I set ( or DOS set ;-) 516 cyl 64 heads, 32 sec And 3C579 TP EISA partition a have size 20 Mb - I think it is below 1024 cyl ? FreeBSD tell me, that it is AIC-274x May be here is situated mistake ? With best regards, Alexander Yu. Borunov, Ekaterinburg, Russia From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 18 20:57:56 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id UAA04524 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 20:57:56 -0700 Received: from arthur.cs.purdue.edu (root@arthur.cs.purdue.edu [128.10.2.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA04509 ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 20:57:39 -0700 Received: from moriarty.cs.purdue.edu (root@moriarty.cs.purdue.edu [128.10.2.69]) by arthur.cs.purdue.edu (8.6.10/PURDUE_CS-1.3) with ESMTP id ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 22:57:33 -0500 Received: from localhost (wam@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by moriarty.cs.purdue.edu (8.6.10/PURDUE_CS-1.3) with SMTP id ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 22:57:32 -0500 Message-Id: <199504190357.WAA09930@moriarty.cs.purdue.edu> To: jfieber@cs.smith.edu (John Fieber) cc: nc@ain.charm.net (Network Coordinator), freebsd-security@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: httpd - security problem? (question, not a statement) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 22:57:31 -0500 From: wam@cs.purdue.edu (William McVey) Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk John Fieber wrote: >There was a bug in the NCSA http server which has since been >fixed. I'm not currently aware of any problems with the CERN >server. Actually, the one "hole" that an exploit script was written for (and published) was fixed. The NCSA http server still has lots of sloppy code that are indicate security problems. (ie, lots of strcpy as opposed to strncpy, sprintf's into fixed buffers with no range checking, etc.) I've appended a copy of a mail message posted to bugtraq that details just one of the other vulnerabilities. There are others, I'm sure. -- William McVey System Support Staff Computer Science Department Purdue University ----- Begin included message (copied without permission) ----- From: Paul Phillips Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 20:59:05 -0700 Message-Id: <199504120359.UAA03182@nic.cerf.net> Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.www.providers,comp.security.unix Subject: Still security holes in NCSA httpd 1.3R Keywords: security httpd www Cc: bugtraq@fc.net, www-security@ns1.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk NCSA has been claiming at that their patch to httpd, which fixed the hole in strsubfirst, was sufficient to fix the stack overflow bug discovered by Thomas Lopatic. This is incorrect. There is at least one more instance of the same problem, this one in log_reason. NCSA has provided a performance reason not to #define MAX_STRING_LEN to HUGE_STRING_LEN (i.e. you will enter swap hell) and they are correct about that, but unfortunately that doesn't magically make the hole go away. >>> begin code traversal >>> When accept is handed some data, httpd.c calls process_request in http_request.c: 213: process_request(0,stdout); process_request allocates url[HUGE_STRING_LEN] for parsing out the URL. It calls getline in util.c to obtain the info from the socket: 104: if(getline(l,HUGE_STRING_LEN,in,timeout)) process_request now decides what the method is, and calls the relevant function. Take GET for example: it calls process_get in http_get.c with the url as an argument: 143: process_get(in,out,m,url,args); Let's say it's a standard document, so process_get calls send_node with the url as an argument (still possibly HUGE_STRING_LEN long) 195: send_node(url,args,in,out); Now send_node does various checks. Let's say the file does not exist: send_node wants to log it, here: 122: log_reason("file does not exist",file); where file is the passed url, still possible 8192 characters. log_reason is in http_log.c, and quite short: void log_reason(char *reason, char *file) { char t[MAX_STRING_LEN]; sprintf(t,"httpd: access to %s failed for %s, reason: %s", file,remote_name,reason); log_error(t); } The file can be 8192 characters, but it's sprintfed into a 256 character buffer. >>> end code traversal >>> This particular traversal is just an example, log_reason is called from several places with overlarge buffers. I pointed this out to the httpd people at NCSA, who promised a patch but haven't acted with much alacrity. Frankly I am very skeptical that any patch will fix all holes until I finish checking out all the code. When 1.4 is released to the public I will examine it in depth as soon as possible. Regards, -- Paul Phillips paulp@cerf.net ----- Begin included message ----- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 18 21:12:58 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id VAA04925 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 21:12:58 -0700 Received: from hp.com (hp.com [15.255.152.4]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA04919 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 21:12:57 -0700 Received: from hpautow.aus.hp.com by hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.15/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA007764774; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 21:12:54 -0700 Message-Id: <199504190412.AA007764774@hp.com> Received: by hpautow.aus.hp.com (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA27765; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 14:12:52 +1000 From: M C Wong Subject: UNIX: Live free or die! (Well, it's a FYI mentions FreeBSD in OZ) To: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com (freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 14:12:52 EST X-Mailer: Elm [revision: 109.14.c] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In March 1995 issue of Open Systems Review (Asia/Pacific), under the column "auug", titled " UNIX: Live free or die!", various freeware UNIX-like OS are mentioned. Here is an extract with merit and credibility : " .... With the recent release of FreeBSD 2.0, a system was available that was easier and faster to install than many commercial systems, and came with compilers, networking, utilities and complete source code to boot!..." Well done folks! From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 18 21:33:30 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id VAA05286 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 21:33:30 -0700 Received: from cats.ucsc.edu (root@cats-po-1.UCSC.EDU [128.114.129.22]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA05280 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 21:33:27 -0700 Received: from scruz.ucsc.edu by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id VAA24273; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 21:33:09 -0700 Received: from osprey by scruz.ucsc.edu id aa12572; 18 Apr 95 21:31 PDT Received: (from markd@localhost) by Grizzly.COM (8.6.9/8.6.9) id VAA21861; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 21:27:20 -0700 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 21:27:20 -0700 From: Mark Diekhans Message-Id: <199504190427.VAA21861@Grizzly.COM> To: borunov@radom.mplik.ru CC: questions@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: <199504191405.AA01002@ns.radom.mplik.ru> (borunov@radom.mplik.ru) Subject: Re: Help Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello Alexander, >I have a problem with installing FreeBSD 2.0 > >After making big DOS partition on every disk , I've repeat install FreeBSD 2.0 >I have next message: > >F1 . . . FreeBSD >Default F? I had the same problem when I installed. I never could figure out why, but I fixed it by partitioning the disk with DOS instead of the with the FreeBSD install. After installing DOS, FreeBSD installed fine in the remaining partition. Good Luck, Mark From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 18 22:10:52 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA06257 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 22:10:52 -0700 Received: from chaos.structured.net (chaos.structured.net [204.157.7.10]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA06251 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 22:10:50 -0700 Received: (from kozowski@localhost) by chaos.structured.net (8.6.10/Structured_8.6.10) id WAA17396; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 22:10:35 -0700 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 22:10:35 -0700 From: Eric Kozowski Message-Id: <199504190510.WAA17396@chaos.structured.net> To: fenner@parc.xerox.com, jleppek@suw2k.ess.harris.com Subject: Re: PPP and dynamic IPs drifting a little Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, karl@mcs.net Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >In message <9504181741.AA05651@borg.ess.harris.com> you write: >>Well, I tried to ping those to confirm they are never in use and >>I got an answer! Then I tried 192.168.1.2 and it answered!! >> >>So what is the scoop on those numbers and RFC1597? > >It looks like structured.net and net99 are advertising 192.168.1.x to the >Internet (well, MAE-EAST, at least), in violation of RFC1597. They should >stop. > Whoops! Taken care of. Thanks for pointing this out. Eric -- Eric Kozowski Structured Network Systems, Inc. kozowski@structured.net Better, Cheaper, Faster -- pick any two. (503)656-3530 Voice "Providing High Quality, Reliable Internet Service" (800)881-0962 Voice 56k to DS3 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 18 22:22:50 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA06465 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 22:22:50 -0700 Received: from mozcom1.mozcom.com (mozcom1.mozcom.com [202.47.132.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA06456 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 22:22:31 -0700 Received: from cs-makati-s4.mozcom.com ([165.220.128.200]) by mozcom1.mozcom.com (8.6.9/8.6.9/UnixOps) with SMTP id NAA14013 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 13:30:35 +0800 Message-ID: Priority: Normal To: questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 From: PhilData Subject: freebsd on notebooks Date: Wed, 19 Apr 95 14:11:25 +0800 (WST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have the following questions: 1. can freebsd can be installed in notebooks ? 2. does freebsd recognize pcmcia drives ? 3. will freebsd allow an application on a notebook to switch to 132 columns in text mode ? Thanks in advance Nancy Lee From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 18 23:45:32 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id XAA08660 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 23:45:32 -0700 Received: from aero.org (aero.org [130.221.16.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA08654 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 23:45:31 -0700 Received: from antares.aero.org ([130.221.192.46]) by aero.org with SMTP id <111105-3>; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 23:44:57 -0700 Received: from anpiel.aero.org by antares.aero.org (4.1/AMS-1.0) id AA07204 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 18 Apr 95 23:44:56 PDT To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: QIC-80 for backups - is this right? Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 23:44:54 -0700 From: "Mike O'Brien" Message-Id: <95Apr18.234457pdt.111105-3@aero.org> Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've got a Colorado Memory QIC-80 "floppy tape" drive, which I bought to do backups. I'm now wondering if it's time to sell it and get something else! I'm trying to get an epochal dump of the root, just to try things out. I'm doing: # dump 0fbB - 64 2650 /dev/rsd0a | ft It's been running for hours. It steps the tape for quite awhile in tiny jerks that I can't believe are really streaming the tape, then it'll do a long forward-and-reverse motion, then back to tiny jerks. Is this normal? Is this an indication that the ft0 driver needs serious help? Should I throw this thing off a pier and dump over a thousand bucks into SCSI tape? What's going on here? Mike O'Brien From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 18 23:49:09 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id XAA08714 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 23:49:09 -0700 Received: from sed.cs.fsu.edu (sed.cs.fsu.edu [128.186.121.157]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA08708 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 23:49:08 -0700 Received: by sed.cs.fsu.edu (8.6.9/56) id CAA12974; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 02:49:03 -0400 Message-Id: <199504190649.CAA12974@sed.cs.fsu.edu> Subject: Current Mail Archives To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 02:49:02 -0400 (EDT) From: bynum@NU.CS.FSU.EDU (Mark J. Bynum) Reply-to: bynum@NU.CS.FSU.EDU X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 182 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Could someone please tell me if (and where) the current mail archives are? I have used www.freebsd.org but I need articles dated after September of last year. Thanks, Mark Bynum From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 19 00:48:09 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id AAA10351 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 00:48:09 -0700 Received: from kathryn.mikom.csir.co.za (some.schmuck.lame.delegated.to.RAIN.PSG.COM [146.64.28.84]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA10335 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 00:47:46 -0700 Received: (from edebruin@localhost) by kathryn.mikom.csir.co.za (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA00167 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 11:52:01 +0200 From: Etienne de Bruin Message-Id: <199504190952.LAA00167@kathryn.mikom.csir.co.za> Subject: PPP on demand? To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 11:52:00 +0200 (SAT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 791 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, still trying to get the PPP to work: First questions: What does it mean when I get the following message: SIOCAIFADDR: File exists ??? This is what happens when I try to establish a ppp connection. Furthermore: The unknown protocol of 0x802b still does not want to go away even when I have checked the peer's settings which are set to use ipcp (and not ipxcp) After going through the ppp motions of dialing and logging in, when I in another session try to let's say telnet to a site then I get a host name lookup failure etc. And yet when I (in ppp interactive mode) do a show ipcp, I see that I am connected and have the correct IP addresses etc. So, what is going on? eT -- Etienne de Bruin, MIKOMTEK/CSIR, Republic of South Africa Somebody, Somewhere is gonna Praise His Name. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 19 01:43:36 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id BAA12325 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 01:43:36 -0700 Received: from odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de (odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de [139.30.40.28]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA12319 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 01:43:30 -0700 Received: (uphya001@localhost) by odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de (8.6.8/8.3) id KAA27163; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 10:43:17 +0200 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 10:43:17 +0200 From: Lars Koeller Message-Id: <199504190843.KAA27163@odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de> X-Face: nLQGe[[K51[{{[C\,BiQm[7]u1m{N>_\%nLBo4t@)CoZ}hK[W7DwX&V=}Wf#Qb,j:Jpj[(12r=b~:dYmh]fDf\, ]_frt6eM; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 04:26:43 -0700 Received: by sed.cs.fsu.edu (8.6.9/56) id HAA15046; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 07:26:35 -0400 Message-Id: <199504191126.HAA15046@sed.cs.fsu.edu> Subject: Booting from Second Drive (again!) To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 07:26:34 -0400 (EDT) From: bynum@NU.CS.FSU.EDU (Mark J. Bynum) Reply-to: bynum@NU.CS.FSU.EDU X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1539 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have gone through the following steps to boot from my second drive (the first an IDE, the second a SCSI which is my FreeBSD drive): 1. I put an entry in my disktab file for the SCSI drive: qm540s|Quantum Lightning 540S:\ :dt=SCSI:ty=winchester:se#512:nt#64:ns#2048:nc#525: \ :pa#40960:oa#0:ta=4.2BSD:ba#8192:fa#1024: \ :pb#81920:ob#40960:tb=swap: \ :pc#1075649:oc#0: \ :pd#1075649:od#0: \ :pe#952320:oe#122880:te=4.2BSD:be#8192:fe#1024: 2. I changed /usr/src/sys/i386/biosboot/boot.c in the following place: from: loadstart: /***************************************************************\ * As a default set it to the first partition of the first * * floppy or hard drive * \***************************************************************/ part = unit = 0; to: loadstart: part = 0; unit = 1; 3. Did a make, and make install in that directory. 4. Lastly, I labeled the disk using the following command: disklabel -w -B -b /usr/mdec/sdboot -s /usr/mdec/bootsd sd0 qm540s After rebooting, the system would just go into an eternal reboot cycle. What I could do is at the boot prompt type "hd(1,a)/kernel" and it would boot up correctly. Seeing that after doing a make install, only sdboot and bootsd where copied into /usr/mdec I tried changing the code in boot.c back to "part=unit=0" but it did not work either. It said this time that it could not find the root filesystem sd1. That is correct in that there is no sd1, just sd0. Anybody, have a clue as to what I may be doing wrong? Thanks, Mark Bynum From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 19 05:00:11 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id FAA17336 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 05:00:11 -0700 Received: from zap.zap.qc.ca (zap.zap.qc.ca [198.168.127.8]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA17329 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 05:00:05 -0700 Received: (from fortin@localhost) by zap.zap.qc.ca (8.6.9/8.6.6) id HAA05376; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 07:59:41 -0400 From: Denis Fortin Message-Id: <199504191159.HAA05376@zap.zap.qc.ca> Subject: Re: invalid IPs To: nc@ain.charm.net (Network Coordinator) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 07:59:40 -0400 (EDT) Cc: jleppek@suw2k.ess.harris.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Network Coordinator" at Apr 18, 95 08:01:24 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 646 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > As a matter of fact. There is a system called zod.clark.net that is > completely announced to the whole world that has the address: > 192.245.235.1. > > And the 192 net is reserved completely and utterly. Nope. 192 isn't reserved. What is reserved by RFC1597 is: 10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255 <- a single class A network 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255 <- 16 class B networks 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255 <- 256 class C networks There are lots of valid addresses in 192.*.*.*! -- Denis Fortin fortin@acm.org DMR Group Inc, (514) 877-3301 These opinions are my own From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 19 05:02:16 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id FAA17416 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 05:02:16 -0700 Received: from zap.zap.qc.ca (zap.zap.qc.ca [198.168.127.8]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA17410 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 05:02:10 -0700 Received: (from fortin@localhost) by zap.zap.qc.ca (8.6.9/8.6.6) id IAA05394; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 08:01:54 -0400 From: Denis Fortin Message-Id: <199504191201.IAA05394@zap.zap.qc.ca> Subject: Re: PPP and dynamic IPs drifting a little To: fenner@parc.xerox.com (Bill Fenner) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 08:01:53 -0400 (EDT) Cc: jleppek@suw2k.ess.harris.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, karl@mcs.net, kozowski@structured.net In-Reply-To: <95Apr18.180249pdt.49864@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> from "Bill Fenner" at Apr 18, 95 06:02:35 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 636 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > In message <9504181741.AA05651@borg.ess.harris.com> Bill writes: > >Well, I tried to ping those to confirm they are never in use and > >I got an answer! Then I tried 192.168.1.2 and it answered!! > > > >So what is the scoop on those numbers and RFC1597? > > It looks like structured.net and net99 are advertising 192.168.1.x to the > Internet (well, MAE-EAST, at least), in violation of RFC1597. They should > stop. Ok, so who is going to send them mail to complain? -- Denis Fortin fortin@acm.org DMR Group Inc, (514) 877-3301 These opinions are my own From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 19 05:33:39 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id FAA17950 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 05:33:39 -0700 Received: from uu5.psi.com (uu5.psi.com [38.145.226.3]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id FAA17944 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 05:33:37 -0700 Received: from fsd.com by uu5.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.071791-PSI/PSINet) via SMTP; id AA00219 for freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com; Wed, 19 Apr 95 08:33:29 -0400 Received: from sedf.fsd.com (sedf.ARPA) by fsd.com (4.1/3.2.083191-Fairchild Space and Defense Corp) id AA12947; Wed, 19 Apr 95 08:33:28 EDT Received: from fces460a.fsd.com (sunfair) by sedf.fsd.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA26528; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 08:30:49 -0400 Received: by fces460a.fsd.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA01776; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 08:28:44 -0400 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 08:28:44 -0400 From: f445510@fsd.com (Vinit Patel x6445) Message-Id: <9504191228.AA01776@fces460a.fsd.com> To: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: E-IDE CD-ROM support X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi !! Is threre any way to install FreeBSD with E-IDE CD-ROM drive and 1.2 GB E-IDE hard drive???? Thanks, vinit patel From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 19 06:04:31 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA18623 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 06:04:31 -0700 Received: from kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA18617 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 06:04:29 -0700 Received: from mailbox.mcs.com (Mailbox.mcs.com [192.160.127.87]) by kitten.mcs.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA13373; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 08:04:13 -0500 Received: by mailbox.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Wed, 19 Apr 95 08:04 CDT Received: by venus.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Wed, 19 Apr 95 08:04 CDT Message-Id: Subject: Re: PPP and dynamic IPs drifting a little To: fortin@zap.zap.qc.ca (Denis Fortin) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 08:04:11 -0500 (CDT) From: "Karl Denninger, MCSNet" Cc: fenner@parc.xerox.com, jleppek@suw2k.ess.harris.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, karl@mcs.net, kozowski@structured.net In-Reply-To: <199504191201.IAA05394@zap.zap.qc.ca> from "Denis Fortin" at Apr 19, 95 08:01:53 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1162 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > In message <9504181741.AA05651@borg.ess.harris.com> Bill writes: > > >Well, I tried to ping those to confirm they are never in use and > > >I got an answer! Then I tried 192.168.1.2 and it answered!! > > > > > >So what is the scoop on those numbers and RFC1597? > > > > It looks like structured.net and net99 are advertising 192.168.1.x to the > > Internet (well, MAE-EAST, at least), in violation of RFC1597. They should > > stop. > > Ok, so who is going to send them mail to complain? > -- > Denis Fortin fortin@acm.org > DMR Group Inc, (514) 877-3301 These opinions are my own > I do not see an anouncement for this network at MCSNet, and cannot access the MAE router for Net99 to check it. -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.Net)| MCSNet - The Finest Internet Connectivity Modem: [+1 312 248-0900] | (shell, PPP, SLIP, leased) in Chicagoland Voice: [+1 312 248-8649] | 7 POPs online through Chicago, all 28.8 Fax: [+1 312 248-9865] | Email to "info@mcs.net" for more information ISDN: Surf at Smokin' Speed | WWW: http://www.mcs.net, gopher: gopher.mcs.net From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 19 06:33:41 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA19191 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 06:33:41 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id GAA19185 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 06:33:40 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: questions@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: vat & PAS16 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 06:33:40 -0700 Message-ID: <19184.798298420@freefall.cdrom.com> From: Gary Palmer (FreeBSD/ARM Team) Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi I've got a pas16 card in my box, and was trying to use vat (the MBONE audio tool) to listen in, but I just keep getting : Apr 19 06:29:15 westhill /kernel: Apr 19 06:29:15 westhill /kernel: Sound: Audio queue4 corrupted for dev0 (1359/16) Apr 19 06:29:16 westhill /kernel: Apr 19 06:29:16 westhill /kernel: Sound: Audio queue4 corrupted for dev0 (1360/16) Apr 19 06:29:16 westhill /kernel: Apr 19 06:29:16 westhill /kernel: Sound: Audio queue4 corrupted for dev0 (1361/16) dmesg reports: pas0 at 0x388 irq 7 drq 3 on isa pas0: Anyone got any ideas? It's vat 3.4. Thanks Gary From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 19 06:50:55 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA19517 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 06:50:55 -0700 Received: from mail.barrnet.net (mail.BARRNET.NET [131.119.246.7]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA19511 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 06:50:54 -0700 Received: from kathryn.mikom.csir.co.za ([146.64.28.84]) by mail.barrnet.net (8.6.10/MAIL-RELAY-LEN) with ESMTP id GAA15144 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 06:45:37 -0700 Received: (from edebruin@localhost) by kathryn.mikom.csir.co.za (8.6.9/8.6.9) id RAA00415 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 17:50:51 +0200 From: Etienne de Bruin Message-Id: <199504191550.RAA00415@kathryn.mikom.csir.co.za> Subject: Protocol 80fd ??? To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 17:50:51 +0200 (SAT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 223 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk When trying to connect to a peer with ppp, the protocol 80fd is rejected by my client. What is this protocol? eT -- Etienne de Bruin, MIKOMTEK/CSIR, Republic of South Africa Somebody, Somewhere is gonna Praise His Name. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 19 07:19:52 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id HAA20176 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 07:19:52 -0700 Received: from specgw.spec.co.jp (specgw.spec.co.jp [202.32.13.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA20170 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 07:19:45 -0700 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by specgw.spec.co.jp (8.6.5/3.3Wb-SPEC) with UUCP id XAA18117; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 23:01:32 +0900 Received: by tama.spec.co.jp (8.6.11/6.4J.5) id WAA00960; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 22:42:36 +0900 From: Atsushi Murai Message-Id: <199504191342.WAA00960@tama.spec.co.jp> Subject: Re: PPP on demand? To: edebruin@kathryn.mikom.csir.co.za (Etienne de Bruin) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 22:42:36 +0900 (JST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199504190952.LAA00167@kathryn.mikom.csir.co.za> from "Etienne de Bruin" at Apr 19, 95 11:52:00 am Reply-To: amurai@spec.co.jp X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1282 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hi, still trying to get the PPP to work: > > First questions: What does it mean when I get the following > message: SIOCAIFADDR: File exists ??? Don't worry. It's known bug but not bad effect. > This is what happens when I try to establish a ppp connection. > > Furthermore: The unknown protocol of 0x802b still does not want > to go away even when I have checked the peer's settings which are > set to use ipcp (and not ipxcp) ??? Why? Anyway, we just starting to implement a reject logic for unknown protocol as normal. So we will see. > After going through the ppp motions of dialing and logging in, when > I in another session try to let's say telnet to a site then I get > a host name lookup failure etc. And yet when I (in ppp interactive > mode) do a show ipcp, I see that I am connected and have the correct > IP addresses etc. Do you run named or registerd a peer's name into /etc/hosts ? Try IP address rather than Host name. > So, what is going on? Such a way ;-) > eT > -- > Etienne de Bruin, MIKOMTEK/CSIR, Republic of South Africa > Somebody, Somewhere is gonna Praise His Name. > Atsushi. -- Atsushi Murai Internet: amurai@spec.co.jp System Planning and Engineering Co,.Ltd. Voice : +81-33833-5341 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 19 07:28:52 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id HAA20520 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 07:28:52 -0700 Received: from gaia.ucs.orst.edu (root@gaia.UCS.ORST.EDU [128.193.4.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA20513 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 07:28:50 -0700 Received: from ccmail.orst.edu (ccmail-4.UCS.ORST.EDU [128.193.4.34]) by gaia.ucs.orst.edu (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id HAA04094 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 07:29:23 -0700 Received: from cc:Mail by ccmail.orst.edu id AA798301859; Wed, 19 Apr 95 07:25:08 PST Date: Wed, 19 Apr 95 07:25:08 PST From: "Wayne Hernandez" Message-Id: <9503197983.AA798301859@ccmail.orst.edu> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Intel Ethernet Express Pro Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I was looking thru the source of the ix driver this weekend and the driver seems to have support for only the Intel 82586 based cards. My card uses the Intel 82595TX chip so the ix driver does not recognize my card. Anybody who have written drivers know where I could start to make my own driver, or has anybody already done this? Extra notes: This does not use iomem addressing that I can tell. I have the ISA version of the card. It appears to have support for SCO Unix, Univel, and Sun Solaris. If this card is not supported, I plan to purchase the 3COM 509 which I seem to have seen supported recently. Wayne From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 19 07:48:46 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id HAA20906 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 07:48:46 -0700 Received: from halon.sybase.com (halon.sybase.com [192.138.151.33]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id HAA20900 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 07:48:44 -0700 Received: from sybase.com (sybgate.sybase.com) by halon.sybase.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/SybFW4.0) id AA06392; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 07:49:09 -0700 Received: from red_oak.sybgate.sybase.com by sybase.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/SybH3.4) id AA29329; Wed, 19 Apr 95 07:43:35 PDT Received: by red_oak.sybgate.sybase.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/SybEC3.2) id AA10120; Wed, 19 Apr 95 10:43:33 EDT Date: Wed, 19 Apr 95 10:43:33 EDT From: jeffa@sybase.com (Jeff Anuszczyk) Message-Id: <9504191443.AA10120@red_oak.sybgate.sybase.com> To: obrien@antares.aero.org Subject: Re: QIC-80 for backups - is this right? Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org, jeffa@sybase.com content-length: 1455 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I've got a Colorado Memory QIC-80 "floppy tape" drive, > which I bought to do backups. I'm now wondering if it's time to > sell it and get something else! > > I'm trying to get an epochal dump of the root, just to try > things out. I'm doing: > > # dump 0fbB - 64 2650 /dev/rsd0a | ft > > It's been running for hours. It steps the tape for quite > awhile in tiny jerks that I can't believe are really streaming the > tape, then it'll do a long forward-and-reverse motion, then back > to tiny jerks. Is this normal? Is this an indication that the > ft0 driver needs serious help? Should I throw this thing off a pier > and dump over a thousand bucks into SCSI tape? What's going on > here? Well, personally I've never been a big fan of these tapes drives (I've definately had problems with them). However, the problem you describe sounds a heck of a lot like you hit a bad spot on the tape and the driver just keeps rewriting over and over. Are you running V1.1.5.1 or V2.0R? Version 2 is much better at handling this type of thing... with V1 the driver had the annoying habit of just sitting there forever and ever trying to write the tape. The solution. Believe it or not I find that reformatting the tape (yup, spending 2 hours doing it) with the DOS based formatting program (none available under FreeBSD :-( will generally fix the problem. This will reestablish the bad block map and generally set things up pretty well. - jeff From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 19 08:02:19 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA21516 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 08:02:19 -0700 Received: from copper.cmp.com (copper.cmp.com [198.80.26.247]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA21509 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 08:02:16 -0700 Received: from mailgate.cmp.com ([198.80.26.5]) by copper.cmp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA147503636; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 11:00:36 -0400 Received: by mailgate.cmp.com with Microsoft Mail id <2F954FA9@mailgate.cmp.com>; Wed, 19 Apr 95 11:00:09 PDT From: Plyaskin Sergey To: "'.freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: Logitech mouse & XFree86 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 95 11:01:00 PDT Message-Id: <2F954FA9@mailgate.cmp.com> Encoding: 25 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, I have problem I am trying to install XFree86 3.1.1 on FreeBSD 2.0-950210. Since it is natural to have 3-button mouse in X, I want to use Logitech 9F-NCD mouse. It's connected to COM1 (3f8h) and was detected by MSD. Upon boot, I can see the following message sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16450 sio1 not found at 0x2f8 sio2 not found at 0x3e8 sio3 not found at 0x2e8 However, there's no tty00 (or tty01) device in /dev. If I try sh MAKEDEV tty00, I get the message tty00 - no such device name The same thing happens for tty01-03. Is that some kind of unsupported hardware or I'm doing something wrong? Any ideas? Thanks. -Serge splyaski@cmp.com From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 19 08:46:20 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA22464 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 08:46:20 -0700 Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA22456 ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 08:46:12 -0700 Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; id AA02199; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 11:46:06 -0400 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 11:46:06 -0400 From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <9504191546.AA02199@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: Gary Palmer (FreeBSD/ARM Team) Cc: questions@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: vat & PAS16 In-Reply-To: <19184.798298420@freefall.cdrom.com> References: <19184.798298420@freefall.cdrom.com> Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: > Hi > I've got a pas16 card in my box, and was trying to use vat (the MBONE > audio tool) to listen in, but I just keep getting : > Apr 19 06:29:15 westhill /kernel: > Apr 19 06:29:15 westhill /kernel: Sound: Audio queue4 corrupted for dev0 (1359/16) This is a generic problem (or at least it happens on my GUS MAX as well)... -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 19 09:53:34 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA23630 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 09:53:34 -0700 Received: from nsk.kodak.com (nsk.kodak.com [150.220.251.149]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA23582 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 09:51:54 -0700 Received: by nsk.kodak.com id AA20401 (5.67b+/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 19 Apr 1995 12:45:38 -0400 Received: from khis_ns.khis.kodak.com(192.232.112.2) by nsk.kodak.com via smap (V1.3) id sma020399; Wed Apr 19 12:45:33 1995 Received: from dal-gw.dal.khis.Kodak.COM by khis_ns.khis.kodak.com with SMTP id AA29335 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 19 Apr 1995 12:53:23 -0400 Received: from dal.khis.kodak.com (alamo.dal.khis.kodak.com) by dal-gw.dal.khis.kodak.com with SMTP id AA16792 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for questions@freefall.cdrom.com); Wed, 19 Apr 1995 11:49:31 -0500 Received: by dal.khis.kodak.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20030; Wed, 19 Apr 95 11:50:51 CDT From: wardd@khis.Kodak.COM (Doug Ward) Message-Id: <9504191650.AA20030@dal.khis.kodak.com> Subject: NFS hanging up To: questions@freefall.cdrom.com Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 11:50:50 -0500 (CDT) Content-Type: text Content-Length: 796 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am networking two FreeBSD 2.0 systems using 3Com Etherlink (not II) ethernet cards. I am using the el0 interface. RPC, ftp and telnet work great. I can cd and ls within a remote mounted file system but when I try to cp to or from the remote file system, the shell I am in hangs. The shell also hangs when I try to execute a program on the remote file system. The results are the same no matter which machine I mount from. One of the machines is a 386DX40 with 8 MB of ram, an Adaptech 1542C SCSI controller and a 1.1 GB Micronet SCSI hard drive. The other machine is a 386DX33 with 4 MB of ram, an 100 MB IDE hard drive. Is there a patch I need? Is there a parameter for mount I need to check? What information provided by nfsstat is useful in looking at this? thanks, William From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 19 10:23:44 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA24307 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 10:23:44 -0700 Received: from nic1.barrnet.net (NIC1.BARRNET.NET [131.119.245.5]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA24299 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 10:23:42 -0700 Received: from ipsilon.com by nic1.barrnet.net (8.6.10/BARRNET-RELAY.1) id KAA09056; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 10:23:41 -0700 Received: by ipsilon.com (4.1/SMI-4.1MDV1.0) id AA03619; Wed, 19 Apr 95 10:22:28 PDT Date: Wed, 19 Apr 95 10:22:28 PDT From: fong@ipsilon.com (Fong Ching Liaw) Message-Id: <9504191722.AA03619@ipsilon.com> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD as network router Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I just start to look into FreeBSD, and the FAQ said that even when FreeBSD is running gated/routed, it does not completely comply with the internet standard as a router. My question is "is there a documented list states the things that FreeBSD does not comply with internet standard when running gated/routed ?" Thanks in advance. -Fong From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 19 10:28:39 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA24413 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 10:28:39 -0700 Received: from gold.tc.umn.edu (root@gold.tc.umn.edu [128.101.115.11]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA24407 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 10:28:35 -0700 Received: by gold.tc.umn.edu; Wed, 19 Apr 95 12:28:27 -0500 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 12:28:27 -0500 (CDT) From: Jan E Backlund Subject: X11 hangs To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk My system will hang sporadically when I run startx. It doesn't ever seem to occur the first time I start X after booting, but happens about every other time I restart X. I get a blank screen and the only key combination that seems to have any effect is Ctrl+Alt+Del, which does behave normally. I am running the 4/12/95 SNAP with the W32 driver. Anyone out there have a clue? Jan Erik back0003@gold.tc.umn.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 19 10:54:49 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA24778 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 10:54:49 -0700 Received: from barkley.ME.Berkeley.EDU (barkley.ME.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.125.131]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA24772 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 10:54:48 -0700 Received: by barkley.ME.Berkeley.EDU (4.1/1.42) id AA03376; Wed, 19 Apr 95 10:54:46 PDT Message-Id: <9504191754.AA03376@barkley.ME.Berkeley.EDU> From: Allyn Hardyck To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: ifconfig's alias option Date: Wed, 19 Apr 95 10:54:46 -0700 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is it functional? I can't seem to get it to work. I'm invoking it as: ifconfig ed0 inet 199.100.190.14 alias Thanks for any advice. -Allyn Hardyck From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 19 10:57:03 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA24836 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 10:57:03 -0700 Received: from zaphod (zaphod.ttu.ee [193.40.254.227]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA24825 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 10:56:55 -0700 Received: from juku.li.ttu.ee by zaphod (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA01146; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 20:57:21 +0300 Received: by juku.li.ttu.ee (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA18425; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 20:55:47 +0300 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 20:55:47 +0300 From: tanel@juku.li.ttu.ee (Tanel Kuusk) Message-Id: <9504191755.AA18425@juku.li.ttu.ee> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, splyaski@cmp.com Subject: Re: Logitech mouse & XFree86 X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa > sio0: type 16450 > sio1 not found at 0x2f8 > sio2 not found at 0x3e8 > sio3 not found at 0x2e8 That's normal. It shows that your machine has one serial port and there's support for 4 serial ports compiled to kernel. > > However, there's no tty00 (or tty01) device in /dev. If I try sh MAKEDEV But is there a com0 or cua00? You can also try MAKEDEV com0 in /dev, although I can't see right now, what's wrong. You may check your MAKEDEV script > Is that some kind of unsupported hardware or I'm doing something wrong? Any MAKEDEV has nothing to do with hardware. It just creates entry points to kernel (even if the driver isn't really there). > ideas? Thanks. You can also try to make it manually: 'mknod /dev/tty00 c 28 0' (I'm not sure about the 28, but it works on my 1.1.5 system) Tanel From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 19 10:59:48 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA24898 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 10:59:48 -0700 Received: from iworks.InterWorks.org (iworks.interworks.org [128.255.18.10]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA24890 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 10:59:46 -0700 Received: by iworks.InterWorks.org (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA19296; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 12:56:31 -0500 Message-Id: <9504191756.AA19296@iworks.InterWorks.org> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 12:56:31 -0500 From: "Daniel M. Eischen" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, splyaski@cmp.com Subject: Re: Logitech mouse & XFree86 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Hi all, > >I have problem >I am trying to install XFree86 3.1.1 on FreeBSD 2.0-950210. Since it is >natural to have 3-button mouse in X, I want to use Logitech 9F-NCD mouse. >It's connected to COM1 (3f8h) and was detected by MSD. Upon boot, I can see >the following message > >sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa >sio0: type 16450 >sio1 not found at 0x2f8 >sio2 not found at 0x3e8 >sio3 not found at 0x2e8 > >However, there's no tty00 (or tty01) device in /dev. If I try sh MAKEDEV >tty00, I get the message > >tty00 - no such device name > >The same thing happens for tty01-03. >Is that some kind of unsupported hardware or I'm doing something wrong? Any >ideas? Thanks. Try /dev/cuaa0. Dan Eischen deischen@iworks.InterWorks.org From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 19 11:18:06 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA25215 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 11:18:06 -0700 Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA25193 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 11:16:34 -0700 Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin.Root.COM [198.145.90.18]) by Root.COM (8.6.8/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA29674; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 11:16:03 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.6.11/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA02159; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 11:16:03 -0700 Message-Id: <199504191816.LAA02159@corbin.Root.COM> To: wardd@khis.kodak.com (Doug Ward) cc: questions@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: Re: NFS hanging up In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 19 Apr 95 11:50:50 CDT." <9504191650.AA20030@dal.khis.kodak.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 11:15:27 -0700 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >I am networking two FreeBSD 2.0 systems using 3Com Etherlink (not II) >ethernet cards. I am using the el0 interface. That's your problem. The 3c501 has only 2k of memory and must switch back and forth between using this for transmit and receive. When talking to fast machines, it drops every other packet on the floor. There's really nothing that can be done about this - I suggest getting a different kind of card. -DG From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 19 11:41:35 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA25865 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 11:41:35 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA25859 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 11:41:33 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA19377; Wed, 19 Apr 95 12:35:05 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9504191835.AA19377@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: freebsd on notebooks To: ugong495@mozcom.com (PhilData) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 95 12:35:04 MDT Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "PhilData" at Apr 19, 95 02:11:25 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > 1. can freebsd can be installed in notebooks ? Yes. > 2. does freebsd recognize pcmcia drives ? This depends on the PCMCIA bridge chipset in the notebook; for most notebooks, the answer will be yes (most of them use Intel or Intel clone chipsets). Since it is free, you should download it and try it to find out about your particular notebook. > 3. will freebsd allow an application on a notebook to switch to 132 > columns in text mode ? Unless you are running NEC Versa ?/#HC (where '?' is 'M' or 'P' and '#' is '100' or '75', respectively), or unless you are running an AT&T Globalyst 250P [OEM NEC] (or a tadpole SPARCBook), your internal display is going to be 640x480 (this is *the* main reason I don't yet own a portable). 640/132 = 4.8, and since you can't have an odd pixel boundry, round down to 4 pixels per character @ 132 columns. Subtract one pixel per character so the letters are seperate, and you have a 3 pixel wide font. This is not entirely impossible, but I sure as heck would not recommend it! If you get one of the NECs, at 800x600 you get 6.06 (rounds to 6) or 5 pixel wide fonts. This is probably livable, just barely. The NEC's are pricey even without the added display width (the extra display is $900, something I'd be willing to pay for it). If NEC wasn't so generically pricey, I'd already own one. The Tadpole system (requires you to run SunOS; NetBSD won't boot there, and FreeBSD doesn't have a SPARC port) is better at 1024x768 giving 7.75 (7) or 6 pixel wide fonts. This is even sufficient for X. The 1024x768 is optional and carries a hefty price tag as of the last time I checked: add $5000 to th price of the machine. I suspect you will have to live without 132 column mode on your laptop (unless you are made of money, in which case you should buy both you and me a SPARCBook, and I'll port FreeBSD for you). Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 19 11:42:00 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA25874 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 11:42:00 -0700 Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA25867 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 11:41:54 -0700 Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; id AA02556; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 14:41:45 -0400 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 14:41:45 -0400 From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <9504191841.AA02556@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: Allyn Hardyck Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: ifconfig's alias option In-Reply-To: <9504191754.AA03376@barkley.ME.Berkeley.EDU> References: <9504191754.AA03376@barkley.ME.Berkeley.EDU> Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: > Is it functional? I can't seem to get it to work. I'm invoking it as: > ifconfig ed0 inet 199.100.190.14 alias Wrong order. ifconfig ed0 alias 199.100.190.14 -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 19 11:52:02 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA26092 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 11:52:02 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA26085 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 11:51:59 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA19435; Wed, 19 Apr 95 12:43:24 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9504191843.AA19435@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: PPP and dynamic IPs drifting a little To: fortin@zap.zap.qc.ca (Denis Fortin) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 95 12:43:23 MDT Cc: fenner@parc.xerox.com, jleppek@suw2k.ess.harris.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, karl@mcs.net, kozowski@structured.net In-Reply-To: <199504191201.IAA05394@zap.zap.qc.ca> from "Denis Fortin" at Apr 19, 95 08:01:53 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > It looks like structured.net and net99 are advertising 192.168.1.x to the > > Internet (well, MAE-EAST, at least), in violation of RFC1597. They should > > stop. > > Ok, so who is going to send them mail to complain? Funny, my router won't let me get an SMTP connection to send the mail. 8-) 8-) 8-). Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 19 12:01:38 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA26298 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 12:01:38 -0700 Received: from gateway.uwohali.com (gateway.uwohali.com [198.79.105.253]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA26292 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 12:01:35 -0700 Received: from Uwohali1.Uwohali.Com (uwohali1.uwohali.com [198.79.105.1]) by gateway.uwohali.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA01819 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 14:01:42 -0500 Received: from UWOHALI1/MAILQ by Uwohali1.Uwohali.Com (Mercury 1.13); Wed, 19 Apr 95 14:00:02 -0600 Received: from MAILQ by UWOHALI1 (Mercury 1.13); Wed, 19 Apr 95 13:59:48 -0600 From: "Walter Huff" Organization: Uwohali, Incorporated To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 13:59:45 CST Subject: Problems with QIC-80 tape Reply-to: whuff@uwohali.com Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Message-ID: <4646C35C73@Uwohali1.Uwohali.Com> Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Howdy y'all... been lurking for a couple of days, thought it was time to kick in a question. Have a pretty generic 486 box running 2.0R, 8MB memory, 100MB IDE drive (yeah, it's small, but the machine isn't used for much more than bootp, outgoing mail, and DNS). I had a spare Colorado Jumbo 250 I hung off the floppy cable in place of drive B to use for backups. Well, the darn thing just won't work. The kernel sees it cause I get this during bootup: >Apr 18 10:49:15 gateway kernel: fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa >Apr 18 10:49:15 gateway kernel: fdc0: [0: fd0: 1.2MB 5.25in] [2: ft0: Colorado tape] but when I try to use it via tar I get this: >gateway# tar cvzf - /usr | ft "Dump of /usr" >tar: Removing leading / from absolute path names in the archive. >usr/ >usr/tmp/ >usr/bin/ >usr/bin/cu >/dev/rft0: Input/output error >usr/bin/uucp >gateway# Sometimes the tape moves right before I get the I/O error, sometimes not. I've had the entire thing hang up, with nothing killing the "ft" process... not even a "kill -9". Had to re-boot, and even then it complained that the process wouldn't die before it restarted. On other occasions, usually when the tape did move, I also get a message on the console that says "kernel: no pages????". In those cases the ft process is definately hung. I've tried this using a number of different tapes all of which had been recently formatted, so I don't think it's due to a bad block or some such nonsense. Any hints/suggestions/retorts? - Walter Huff From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 19 13:16:13 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA27750 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 13:16:13 -0700 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA27744 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 13:16:09 -0700 Received: (from julian@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) id NAA10005; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 13:16:05 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199504192016.NAA10005@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: E-IDE CD-ROM support To: f445510@fsd.com (Vinit Patel x6445) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 13:16:03 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: <9504191228.AA01776@fces460a.fsd.com> from "Vinit Patel x6445" at Apr 19, 95 08:28:44 am Content-Type: text Content-Length: 483 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Hi !! > Is threre any way to install FreeBSD with E-IDE CD-ROM drive and 1.2 GB E-IDE > hard drive???? > Thanks, FreeBSD's EIDE (ATAPI) cdrom driver is not yet complete... (soon we're told) you can use a DOS partition and DOS, to install FreeBSD transfer the files via dos to the dos part, and then read them from there for the install. the proceedure should be in the install docs.... (of course when the driver is complete it will be easier :) julian > > vinit patel > From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 19 13:57:28 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA28757 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 13:57:28 -0700 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA28749 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 13:57:24 -0700 Received: (from julian@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) id NAA10176; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 13:57:21 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199504192057.NAA10176@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD as network router To: fong@ipsilon.com (Fong Ching Liaw) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 13:57:21 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9504191722.AA03619@ipsilon.com> from "Fong Ching Liaw" at Apr 19, 95 10:22:28 am Content-Type: text Content-Length: 741 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This is the second time we've had this quiestion, and I don't know the answer any of you other guys know about this? > > > Hi, > > I just start to look into FreeBSD, and the FAQ said that > even when FreeBSD is running gated/routed, it does not > completely comply with the internet standard as a router. > My question is "is there a documented list states the > things that FreeBSD does not comply with internet standard > when running gated/routed ?" I don know that it's about as standard as any other router.. but someone obviously had to be 'exact' about it.. we use them to route here with no problems..... the networking code is almost straight BSD4.4 code (with a few small upgrades) > > Thanks in advance. > -Fong > From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 19 14:07:15 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA29151 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 14:07:15 -0700 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA29113 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 14:05:52 -0700 Received: (from julian@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) id OAA10207; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 14:05:23 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199504192105.OAA10207@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: NFS hanging up To: wardd@khis.Kodak.COM (Doug Ward) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 14:05:23 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@freefall.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: <9504191650.AA20030@dal.khis.kodak.com> from "Doug Ward" at Apr 19, 95 11:50:50 am Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1719 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I BELIEVE THE PROBLEM IS THE ETHERNET CARDS.. (oops.. cap-lock) This MAY NOT be your problem, but has been the case for many people.. a lot of older enet cards (including that one I think) only have 8k of buffer space that has to be used for xmit and rcv. NFS tries to do 8k operations by default so every time a server sends it an 8K burst of data, your (rather slow 386) PC drops one of the packets and the 8k UDP packet is never transferred completely.. the NFS code retries, but that just results in the same 8K burst of data, and of course some is missed again.... ad-infinitum... read the man-pages for fstab, mount_nfs and mount, and set the read and write size to 2K. that way, each request is likely to succeed :) adjust to suit your system. if you can get a card with 16K buffers (or a faster processor) you will find that 8k transfers start working again. :) > I am networking two FreeBSD 2.0 systems using 3Com Etherlink (not II) > ethernet cards. I am using the el0 interface. > > RPC, ftp and telnet work great. I can cd and ls within a remote mounted > file system but when I try to cp to or from the remote file system, the > shell I am in hangs. The shell also hangs when I try to execute a program > on the remote file system. The results are the same no matter which > machine I mount from. > > One of the machines is a 386DX40 with 8 MB of ram, an Adaptech 1542C SCSI > controller and a 1.1 GB Micronet SCSI hard drive. > The other machine is a 386DX33 with 4 MB of ram, an 100 MB IDE hard drive. > > Is there a patch I need? Is there a parameter for mount I need to check? What > information provided by nfsstat is useful in looking at this? > > > thanks, William > From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 19 14:32:23 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA00192 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 14:32:23 -0700 Received: from halon.sybase.com (halon.sybase.com [192.138.151.33]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id OAA00184 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 14:32:19 -0700 Received: from sybase.com (sybgate.sybase.com) by halon.sybase.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/SybFW4.0) id AA24347; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 14:36:55 -0700 Received: from red_oak.sybgate.sybase.com by sybase.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/SybH3.4) id AA28148; Wed, 19 Apr 95 14:31:19 PDT Received: by red_oak.sybgate.sybase.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/SybEC3.2) id AA10543; Wed, 19 Apr 95 17:31:16 EDT Date: Wed, 19 Apr 95 17:31:16 EDT From: jeffa@sybase.com (Jeff Anuszczyk) Message-Id: <9504192131.AA10543@red_oak.sybgate.sybase.com> To: whuff@uwohali.com Subject: Re: Problems with QIC-80 tape Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org content-length: 972 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Have a pretty generic 486 box running 2.0R, 8MB memory, 100MB IDE > drive (yeah, it's small, but the machine isn't used for much more > than bootp, outgoing mail, and DNS). I had a spare Colorado Jumbo > 250 I hung off the floppy cable in place of drive B to use for > backups. Well, the darn thing just won't work. The kernel sees it > cause I get this during bootup: Hmmm, for some reason I think the Jumbo-250 needs to be on the special connector that taps into the floppy cable. Not sure if your configuration would work and definately could lead to bizzare behavior. Try hooking up the drive using the correct cabling (i.e. not using the connectors that are assigned to drive A/B). Not sure if this will help, but I have mine hooked up the "described" way and it all works. Personally I don't trust these drives (you *MUST* reread what you write! Don't assume it made it on tape... more times than I care to admit I didn't and paid the price!). - jeff From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 19 14:49:21 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA00570 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 14:49:21 -0700 Received: from haven.ios.com (haven.ios.com [198.4.75.45]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA00563 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 14:49:19 -0700 Received: (from rashid@localhost) by haven.ios.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id RAA18845 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 17:52:09 -0400 From: "Rashid Karimov." Message-Id: <199504192152.RAA18845@haven.ios.com> Subject: Any limit on max.amount of ptty's confgd ? To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 17:52:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 276 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi folx, Well, the subj. sez it all ? Is there any ? I tried to find some limitations in telnetd's code , but it looks like it looks thru more than 64 pty's trying to obtain master ? Why does kernel complain about "more than 64 ptys configured" ? Rashid From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 19 15:41:59 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA01569 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 15:41:59 -0700 Received: from paranor.ca.cch.com (paranor.ca.cch.com [192.139.248.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA01563 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 15:41:56 -0700 Received: by paranor.ca.cch.com id AA28216; Wed, 19 Apr 95 18:46:33 EDT Received: from cchtor.ca.cch.com(192.139.241.2) by paranor.ca.cch.com via smap (V1.3) id sma028214; Wed Apr 19 18:46:04 1995 Received: from cch.com (eiger [192.139.241.3]) by cchtor.ca.cch.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id SAA28214 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 18:44:53 -0400 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 18:44:53 -0400 From: Graham Gill Message-Id: <199504192244.SAA28214@cchtor.ca.cch.com> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: AHA-2940 and 3C509B Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi: I'm using the 2.0-950412 snapshot on an Asus PVI-486SP3 PCI with AMD 486-80, Adaptec 2940 with 1 SCSI disk and 1 CDROM drive attached, and a 3C509B ethernet card. The AHA-2940 uses INT A and IRQ 11; I've tried the 3C509B with I/O port 0x300-0x30f and IRQ 10, and with I/O port 0x200-0x20f and IRQ 5 with equal results (IRQs 5 and 10 are both free otherwise). If the 3C509B isn't found, such as when using 0x200 and IRQ 5 without also telling the kernel of the new parameters for ep0 with /kernel -c, the boot proceeds normally, and I get the installation screen where I am asked what parts of FreeBSD I want to install (bin + optional other), and where I want to install them from (NFS, FTP, CDROM, etc.). I'd like to install by NFS-mounting one of our Sun drives, but can't since the ethernet card wasn't found. If the 3C509B is found, such as when using the parameters 0x300 and IRQ 10 expected by the kernel, or using the kernel config to set parameters for ep0 to whatever else I've configured the card to be (e.g. 0x200 and IRQ 5), the boot hangs after completing probes of the ISA and PCI buses normally, and announcing that it is changing root device to sd0a which is the last message before the hang. Is there some known conflict between AHA-2940 and 3C509B cards? I'm going to try replacing the 3C509B with a 3C505 to see how far I get. thanks for any help, graham Wed Apr 19 18:40:28 EDT 1995 ===== Graham Gill Internet: graham@ca.cch.com Programmer Tel.: +1-416-441-{4001,2992} x320 R&D Dept. Fax: +1-416-44{1-3544,4-9011} CCH Canadian Ltd., 6 Garamond Ct., Don Mills ON, M3C 1Z5, Canada CCH Lotus Notes: Gill, Graham CCH DECnet: canada::kern From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 19 16:31:59 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id QAA02655 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 16:31:59 -0700 Received: from kimiyo.ed.Hawaii.Edu (stevei@kimiyo.ed.Hawaii.Edu [128.171.124.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id QAA02649 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 16:31:58 -0700 Received: by kimiyo.ed.Hawaii.Edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03193; Wed, 19 Apr 95 13:40:10 HST From: stevei@kimiyo.ed.Hawaii.Edu (Steven Ikeda) Message-Id: <9504192340.AA03193@kimiyo.ed.Hawaii.Edu> Subject: FreeBSD To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 13:40:09 -1000 (HST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 409 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I downloaded your floppies for FreeBSD and wanted to do the ftp install version. The problem I'm having is that it sends me errors about gethostname error and socket errors and it doesn't let me use the ftp option (or any of the networking option). I do have an NE2000 compatible card and it does pop up on startup as ed1. Could somoene please advice me on what i am doing wrong? Thanks. Steve From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 19 18:29:00 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id SAA07793 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 18:29:00 -0700 Received: from zaphod (zaphod.ttu.ee [193.40.254.227]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id SAA07787 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 18:28:57 -0700 Received: from juku.li.ttu.ee by zaphod (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA02026; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 04:29:25 +0300 Received: by juku.li.ttu.ee (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA18840; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 04:27:58 +0300 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 04:27:58 +0300 From: tanel@juku.li.ttu.ee (Tanel Kuusk) Message-Id: <9504200127.AA18840@juku.li.ttu.ee> To: questions@FreeBSD.org, stevei@kimiyo.ed.Hawaii.Edu Subject: Re: FreeBSD X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > use the ftp option (or any of the networking option). I do have an > NE2000 compatible card and it does pop up on startup as ed1. But maybe the system expects it at ed0? Try reconfiguring the card's base address and irq. i'm sorry, i can't tell you the values for ed0 :-( Tanel From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 19 18:30:03 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id SAA07823 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 18:30:03 -0700 Received: from rodin.cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (rodin.cssc-syd.tansu.com.au [149.135.252.15]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA07806 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 18:29:55 -0700 Received: from crab.cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (crab.ind.tansu.com.au [149.135.100.23]) by rodin.cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA11410 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:29:14 +1000 Received: from kiwi.cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (raoul@kiwi.cssc-syd.tansu.com.au [149.135.104.48]) by crab.cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA23869 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:28:43 +1000 Received: (raoul@localhost) by kiwi.cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA19679 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:28:42 +1000 Message-Id: <199504200128.LAA19679@kiwi.cssc-syd.tansu.com.au> Subject: XV 3.01 port under FreeBSD 2.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:28:42 +1000 (EST) From: raoul@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (Raoul Golan) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1151 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, Has anyone noticed that the FreeBSD port of XV 3.01 consumes an inordinate amount of memory? I have 8M Ram, 20M swap, and after loading about 10 large pictures or so, I run out of swap space. I mention this because I also have Linux installed, and the Linux port does not behave in this way. It appears that the Linux port frees the memory allocated to each picture before loading the next one, something that the FreeBSD port does not do, or at least does incorrectly... the Linux port never makes the swap run out. Not an important problem, I know, but I figured someone should know... I got this from the WC CD, I haven't seen the source for XV on it, so I haven't looked into it. I wouldn't have even mentioned it, if it weren't a desirable aim to better Linux in _every_ way. Regards and Thanks, Raoul -- Raoul Golan, Consultant for Object Oriented P/L, at ="Those who have put out Intelligent Networks Development, Telecom Australia = the eyes of the people Also student at Macquarie Univ. School of History, = reproach them for their Philosophy and Politics. EMAIL:raoul@ind.tansu.com.au = blindness." - Milton From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 19 18:50:29 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id SAA08348 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 18:50:29 -0700 Received: from genesis.tiac.net (genesis.tiac.net [204.180.76.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA08336 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 18:50:26 -0700 Received: by genesis.tiac.net (8.6.9/genesis0.0) id VAA17244; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 21:50:21 -0400 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 21:50:21 -0400 From: steve2@genesis.tiac.net (Steve Gerakines) Message-Id: <199504200150.VAA17244@genesis.tiac.net> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: QIC-80 for backups - is this right? Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Well, personally I've never been a big fan of these tapes drives (I've > definately had problems with them). However, the problem you describe > sounds a heck of a lot like you hit a bad spot on the tape and the > driver just keeps rewriting over and over. Are you running V1.1.5.1 > or V2.0R? Version 2 is much better at handling this type of thing... > with V1 the driver had the annoying habit of just sitting there forever > and ever trying to write the tape. This problem still exists in the current version of the driver, although it happens less frequently than earlier versions. The way to recover from such a thing is to have the driver realize that this is a bad block and then automatically update the bad sector map. Once the bad sector map is updated you need to recalculate error correction and then re-write the tape segment, skipping over the newly marked bad spot. Because error correction is currently outside the driver it is impossible to recover. I'm re-doing the driver now and this is one feature it'll have. > The solution. Believe it or not I find that reformatting the tape (yup, > spending 2 hours doing it) with the DOS based formatting program (none > available under FreeBSD :-( will generally fix the problem. This will > reestablish the bad block map and generally set things up pretty well. That usually solves it, but not without a re-boot or yanked tape first. :-( - Steve steve2@genesis.tiac.net From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 19 19:13:42 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id TAA08981 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 19:13:42 -0700 Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id TAA08975 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 19:13:39 -0700 Received: from crevenia.parc.xerox.com ([13.2.116.11]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <14491(3)>; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 19:12:54 PDT Received: from localhost by crevenia.parc.xerox.com with SMTP id <49864>; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 19:12:28 -0700 X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6 4/19/95 To: Network Coordinator cc: James Leppek , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: invalid IPs In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 18 Apr 95 17:01:24 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 19:12:14 PDT From: Bill Fenner Message-Id: <95Apr19.191228pdt.49864@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message you write: >As a matter of fact. There is a system called zod.clark.net that is >completely announced to the whole world that has the address: >192.245.235.1. Uh, so? ZODNET, 192.245.235/24, is a properly registered class C. >And the 192 net is reserved completely and utterly. The networks that are reserved by RFC1597 are 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255 . Bill From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 19 20:59:13 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id UAA13651 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 20:59:13 -0700 Received: from mg1.cdsnet.net (osyjm@mg1.cdsnet.net [204.118.244.5]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA13642 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 20:59:12 -0700 Received: (from osyjm@localhost) by mg1.cdsnet.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) id VAA02218; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 21:46:19 -0700 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 21:46:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Jaye Mathisen To: Raoul Golan cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: XV 3.01 port under FreeBSD 2.0 In-Reply-To: <199504200128.LAA19679@kiwi.cssc-syd.tansu.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Are you sure the linux version isn't 3.1 as opposed to 3.01 for FreeBSD? Some of the fixes in 3.1 are fixes for memory leaks. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 19 21:03:01 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id VAA13984 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 21:03:01 -0700 Received: from ddi2.digital.net (ddi2.digital.net [198.69.104.3]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA13969 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 21:02:56 -0700 Received: from vx.com (uucp@localhost) by ddi2.digital.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with UUCP id AAA09143 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 00:00:35 -0500 Received: from squid by vx.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA10766; Wed, 19 Apr 95 23:56:39 EDT Received: by squid (931110.SGI/930416.SGI.AUTO) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org id AA14075; Wed, 19 Apr 95 23:56:58 -0400 From: spp@vx.com (Stephen Potter) Message-Id: <9504192356.ZM14073@squid> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 23:56:54 -0400 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.1.0 22feb94 MediaMail) To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD and ATAPI/IDE CDs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I can't seem to find anything specific in any of the FAQs I've read, so I'm going to try here... Does FreeBSD 2.0 support ATAPI/IDE CDs or not? I recently bought the FreeBSD CDrom from WC and am trying to install it on an AcerPower Pentium 60 (the 8879? model) with a Mitsumi IDE CD. I don't see anywhere in the startup files that it can support that drive. Is it possible to pull certain parts of it off to my DOS slice (bin, compilers, and source, I suppose), install them and build a new kernel to handle the drive, or I am just basically out of luck with the drive? Steve PS: Sorry I'm not more up on my PC jargon, but I work with "real" machines (Suns and SGIs) on a regular basis. PCs are a new hobby I'm starting on, and I want a real OS (FreeBSD or Linux or both...) instead of just DOS/Windoze. -- Stephen P Potter spp@vx.com Varimetrix Corporation 2350 Commerce Park Drive, Suite 4 Palm Bay, FL 32905 (407) 676-3222 CAD/CAM/CAE/Software From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 19 21:22:26 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id VAA14482 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 21:22:26 -0700 Received: from whistler.sfu.ca (root@whistler.sfu.ca [142.58.103.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA14476 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 21:22:25 -0700 Received: from stork.sfu.ca (rs29-annex3.sfu.ca [142.58.123.59]) by whistler.sfu.ca with SMTP (8.6.11/SFU-2.6H) id VAA01892 for (from stork@sfu.ca); Wed, 19 Apr 1995 21:22:20 -0700 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 21:22:20 -0700 Message-Id: <199504200422.VAA01892@whistler.sfu.ca> X-Sender: stork@popserver.sfu.ca (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@FreeBSD.org From: stork@sfu.ca (Johnny Stork) Subject: CD Version of FreeBSD Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Where can I get a CD Rom version of FreeBSD???? From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 19 21:51:26 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id VAA17526 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 21:51:26 -0700 Received: from bronze.coil.com (bronze.coil.com [198.4.94.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA17517 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 21:51:24 -0700 Received: from localhost (echet@localhost) by bronze.coil.com (8.6.4/8.6.12) id AAA09608; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 00:53:26 -0400 Message-Id: <199504200453.AAA09608@bronze.coil.com> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 00:49:23 EDT From: echet@coil.com (Eric & Rae) Reply-To: echet@coil.com (Eric & Rae) To: questions@freefall.cdrom.com X-Mailer: PMMail (v1.05 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE) Subject: rawrite utility for os2? Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello I'm trying to install FreeBSD but I don't have rawrite to decompress the floppies. I found the IBM utility LoadDskF it worked fine on the boot disk but won't work on cpio. Does anybody know of another utility that will work under Warp or (Warp dos) with will write cpio.flp? I have the FreeBSD binaries already downloaded. Thank You Eric - echet@coil.com From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 20 00:41:57 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id AAA21254 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 00:41:57 -0700 Received: from campino.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.225.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id AAA21199 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 00:40:42 -0700 Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de by campino.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (4.1/campino-6) id AA17390; Thu, 20 Apr 95 09:39:01 +0200 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.8/8.6.9) id JAA06975; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 09:49:11 +0200 Message-Id: <199504200749.JAA06975@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: FreeBSD and ATAPI/IDE CDs To: spp@vx.com (Stephen Potter) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 09:49:10 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com (user alias) In-Reply-To: <9504192356.ZM14073@squid> from "Stephen Potter" at Apr 19, 95 11:56:54 pm From: Christoph Kukulies Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1548 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I can't seem to find anything specific in any of the FAQs I've read, so I'm > going to try here... > > Does FreeBSD 2.0 support ATAPI/IDE CDs or not? I recently bought the No. You can either wait for the release of the 2.1 CD or ....... > FreeBSD CDrom from WC and am trying to install it on an AcerPower Pentium > 60 (the 8879? model) with a Mitsumi IDE CD. I don't see anywhere in the > startup files that it can support that drive. Is it possible to pull > certain parts of it off to my DOS slice (bin, compilers, and source, I .... you - I see you have a DOS partition - copy the distribution parts (bin, src) to your DOS partition, then boot FreeBSD (which may be a minimum version at that time) , mount the DOS partition and install the rest. > suppose), install them and build a new kernel to handle the drive, or I am > just basically out of luck with the drive? > > Steve > PS: Sorry I'm not more up on my PC jargon, but I work with "real" machines > (Suns and SGIs) on a regular basis. PCs are a new hobby I'm starting on, > and I want a real OS (FreeBSD or Linux or both...) instead of just > DOS/Windoze. > > -- > Stephen P Potter spp@vx.com Varimetrix Corporation > 2350 Commerce Park Drive, Suite 4 Palm Bay, FL 32905 > (407) 676-3222 CAD/CAM/CAE/Software > > > > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de FreeBSD blues.physik.rwth-aachen.de 2.1.0-Development FreeBSD 2.1.0-Development #2: Tue Apr 11 20:03:36 MET DST 1995 root@blues:/usr/src/sys/compile/BLUESGUS i386 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 20 02:54:34 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id CAA24392 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 02:54:34 -0700 Received: from easynet.com ([198.67.38.6]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id CAA24384 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 02:54:32 -0700 Received: by easynet.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0s1svt-000rdCC; Thu, 20 Apr 95 02:53 WET DST Message-Id: From: brian@mediacity.com (Brian Litzinger) Subject: Recommendations for SCSI Controllers To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 02:53:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 560 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm upgrading my SCSI controller in my PCI P5-90 system. It is currently an Adaptec 1542B. Any recommendations on what I should go for? I'll still be using my NARROW drives, so if you want to recommend a WIDE controller I'll need it to support NARROW too. Lastly, BT-946C need not apply. I've already got one and it don't work. Mapped to the same facilities used by the Adaptec, the BT-946C's BIOS doesn't even so up. 8-( So what other neat/FAST PCI based SCSI controllers might I try. I'm running -current. Thanks, Brian Litzinger brian@easynet.com From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 20 03:15:58 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id DAA24885 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 03:15:58 -0700 Received: from vinkku.hut.fi (root@vinkku.hut.fi [130.233.245.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA24877 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 03:15:51 -0700 Received: from lk-hp-14.hut.fi (lk-hp-14.hut.fi [130.233.246.32]) by vinkku.hut.fi (8.6.11/8.6.7) with ESMTP id NAA09692; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 13:15:43 +0300 From: Kai Vorma Received: (vode@localhost) by lk-hp-14.hut.fi (8.6.11/8.6.7) id NAA05556; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 13:15:45 +0300 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 13:15:45 +0300 Message-Id: <199504201015.NAA05556@lk-hp-14.hut.fi> To: raoul@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (Raoul Golan) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: XV 3.01 port under FreeBSD 2.0 In-Reply-To: <199504200128.LAA19679@kiwi.cssc-syd.tansu.com.au> References: <199504200128.LAA19679@kiwi.cssc-syd.tansu.com.au> Reply-To: Kai.Vorma@hut.fi Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Raoul Golan writes: > Has anyone noticed that the FreeBSD port of XV 3.01 consumes > an inordinate amount of memory? I have 8M Ram, 20M swap, and > after loading about 10 large pictures or so, I run out of swap > space. Link XV against gnu-malloc (-lgnumalloc). BSD malloc allocates awful lot of memory in some cases and causes XV to grow until it hits datasize limit. ..vode From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 20 03:45:48 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id DAA25400 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 03:45:48 -0700 Received: from cassius.ee.su.OZ.AU (cassius.ee.su.OZ.AU [129.78.13.49]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id DAA25394 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 03:45:42 -0700 Received: by cassius.ee.su.OZ.AU id ; Thu, 20 Apr 95 20:45:37 +1000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 20:45:37 +1000 From: Ian Wynne To: questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Length: 827 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello Everyone: Im using FreeBSD 2.0-950210-SNAP and I'm having problems getting "tip" to work. I'm using the same set up I used in 1.1.5.1 but I'm having problems. This first problem is that if the phone number isn't placed in /etc/remote but is placed in /etc/phones, I get an error message saying that it can't find the phone number. That is only a minor problem. The most serious problem is when the machine at the other end answers, I get a message saying "RING" then my machine drops the line. Kermit works fine. I've done stty -a Posted-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 18:47:03 +0400 Message-Id: <199504201447.SAA24102@itp.ac.ru> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: 2.0-950412-SNAP on 386DX Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.org Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, Today I tried to reinstall FreeBSD-2.0-950412-SNAP on 386SX, previously running FreeBSD-1.0.2. Basic installation proceeded O'k, but when I recompiled kernel for it, I have got: loading kernel kern_sysctl.o: Undefined symbol `_hw_float' referenced from text segment *** Error code 1 I examined file kern_sysctl.c and it really have this unreferenced symbol. Could somebody tell me what I shall do. My computer: 386DX40 without coprocessor, 170Mb IDE disk CP170A, 8Mb RAM, SVGA, 3 Ethernet controllers, and 4 I/O ports. Config file: # # ICPH -- ICPH machine # # $Id: ICPH(KS),v 1.01 1994/01/31 01:28:07 rgrimes Exp $ # machine "i386" cpu "I386_CPU" ident ICP maxusers 10 options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast File System #options NFS #Network File System #options MSDOSFS #MSDOS File System options PROCFS #Process Filesystem #options "COMPAT_42" options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 #options "TCP_COMPAT_42" #TCP/IP compatible with 4.2 #options XSERVER #Xserver #options UCONSOLE #X Console support #options BOUNCE_BUFFERS options GATEWAY #Host is a Gateway (forwards packets) #options MROUTING #options IPFIREWALL #options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE #options IPACCT config kernel root on wd0 swap on wd0 controller isa0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 vector wdintr disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 #disk wd1 at wdc0 drive 1 #device wt0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 5 drq 1 vector wtintr #device mcd0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 10 vector mcdintr #device pc0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector pcrint device sc0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector scintr #device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr #For high speed serial lines. device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM3" tty irq 11 vector siointr device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM4" tty irq 10 vector siointr device sio2 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty irq 4 vector siointr device sio3 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 vector siointr #device lpt0 at isa? port "IO_LPT1" tty irq 7 vector lptintr #device lpa0 at isa? port "IO_LPT1" tty #device lpa1 at isa? port "IO_LPT2" tty device ed0 at isa? port 0x340 net irq 5 iomem 0xd8000 vector edintr device ed1 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 12 iomem 0xd0000 vector edintr device ed2 at isa? port 0x320 net irq 7 iomem 0xcc000 vector edintr pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ether pseudo-device log pseudo-device sl 2 pseudo-device pty 16 #pseudo-device bpfilter 4 pseudo-device speaker pseudo-device swappager pseudo-device vnodepager pseudo-device devpager #pseudo-device gzip # pseudo-device snp 3 ---------------------------- I tried various configuration but all of them failed when compiling with the same error. Serge Krashakov From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 20 08:01:24 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA29664 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 08:01:24 -0700 Received: from mpi-sb.mpg.de (mpi-sb.mpg.de [139.19.1.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA29658 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 08:01:20 -0700 From: gruber@mpi-sb.mpg.de (Stefan Gruber) Organization: Max-Planck-Institut fuer Informatik D-66123 Saarbruecken, Germany Received: from mpii01018.ag1.mpi-sb.mpg.de with SMTP by mpi-sb.mpg.de (5.65/MPISB-1.0/920920) id AA23332; Thu, 20 Apr 95 16:58:22 +0200 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 16:58:19 +0200 Message-Id: <9504201458.AA04144@mpii01018.ag1.mpi-sb.mpg.de> Received: by mpii01018.ag1.mpi-sb.mpg.de; Thu, 20 Apr 95 16:58:19 +0200 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Getting FreeBSD Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello there, I have certain trouble to get a link to your ftp-side. Could you give me a hint if there are other possibilites to receive your (astimated) fabulous software ? Thanks in advance, Stefan Gruber aka Stormlord From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 20 08:06:14 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA29806 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 08:06:14 -0700 Received: from albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu (albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu [128.52.46.31]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA29799 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 08:06:12 -0700 From: kristyn@gnu.ai.mit.edu Received: from spiff.gnu.ai.mit.edu by albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9GNU) with SMTP id LAA16400; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:06:09 -0400 Received: by spiff.gnu.ai.mit.edu (5.65/4.0) id ; Thu, 20 Apr 95 11:05:51 -0401 Message-Id: <9504201506.AA07315@spiff.gnu.ai.mit.edu> Subject: Re: QIC-80 for backups - is this right? To: obrien@antares.aero.org (Mike O'Brien) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:05:49 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com (FreeBSD Questions) In-Reply-To: <95Apr18.234457pdt.111105-3@aero.org> from "Mike O'Brien" at Apr 18, 95 11:44:54 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL5] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 534 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk } } I've got a Colorado Memory QIC-80 "floppy tape" drive, } which I bought to do backups. I'm now wondering if it's time to } sell it and get something else! I've got a CMS Jumbo 250. I back it up with: dump 0f - / | ft and tar cvzf - /usr | ft Both work great for me. The only problem I have is that I can't use dump to backup my /usr partition (/dev/rwd0e or whatever it is). ft crashes, so I have to use tar. -- -=(*)=- Kristyn Fayette -=(*)=- kristyn@gnu.ai.mit.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 20 08:15:25 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA29979 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 08:15:25 -0700 Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.34]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA29972 ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 08:15:12 -0700 Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id BAA20082; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 01:10:22 +1000 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 01:10:22 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199504201510.BAA20082@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: questions@FreeBSD.org, sakr@itp.ac.ru Subject: Re: 2.0-950412-SNAP on 386DX Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.org Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Today I tried to reinstall FreeBSD-2.0-950412-SNAP on 386SX, >previously running FreeBSD-1.0.2. >Basic installation proceeded O'k, but when I recompiled kernel for it, >I have got: >loading kernel >kern_sysctl.o: Undefined symbol `_hw_float' referenced from text segment >*** Error code 1 >I examined file kern_sysctl.c and it really have this unreferenced symbol. > >#device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr ^Uncomment this Device npx0 is mandatory because it is the only place where hw_float is defined. This is a bug. Bruce From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 20 09:29:00 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA01844 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 09:29:00 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA01838 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 09:28:58 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA25219; Thu, 20 Apr 95 10:22:30 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9504201622.AA25219@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: FreeBSD and ATAPI/IDE CDs To: spp@vx.com (Stephen Potter) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 10:22:29 MDT Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9504192356.ZM14073@squid> from "Stephen Potter" at Apr 19, 95 11:56:54 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I can't seem to find anything specific in any of the FAQs I've read, so I'm > going to try here... > > Does FreeBSD 2.0 support ATAPI/IDE CDs or not? No. Even though FreeBSD has wonderful SCSI support and ATAPI is just a way to cram SCSI commands down an IDE interface (suprise... bet you thought there really was such a thing as an IDE CDROM drive), the support isn't there yet. It is being worked on right now by some good people, so it should be there soon (I don't know if it's going to make the next release date, however; that's supposed to be later this month). You *can* build the boot disks, and then copy the bindist or whateve else you want to install to your DOS partition, install from the floppies to get minimally up, mount the DOS partition, and install from your DOS copies. This process is described in greater detail in the release note and installation instructions accompanying (and on) the CDROM itself. Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 20 09:47:51 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA02136 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 09:47:51 -0700 Received: from ddi2.digital.net (ddi2.digital.net [198.69.104.3]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA02129 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 09:47:49 -0700 Received: from vx.com (uucp@localhost) by ddi2.digital.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with UUCP id MAA09031 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 12:45:32 -0500 Received: from squid by vx.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17956; Thu, 20 Apr 95 12:41:57 EDT Received: by squid (931110.SGI/930416.SGI.AUTO) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org id AA00780; Thu, 20 Apr 95 12:42:15 -0400 From: spp@vx.com (Stephen Potter) Message-Id: <9504201242.ZM778@squid> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 12:42:12 -0400 In-Reply-To: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) "Re: FreeBSD and ATAPI/IDE CDs" (Apr 20, 10:22am) References: <9504201622.AA25219@cs.weber.edu> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.1.0 22feb94 MediaMail) To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and ATAPI/IDE CDs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Apr 20, 10:22am, Terry Lambert wrote: > Subject: Re: FreeBSD and ATAPI/IDE CDs > > I can't seem to find anything specific in any of the FAQs I've read, so I'm > > going to try here... > > > > Does FreeBSD 2.0 support ATAPI/IDE CDs or not? > > No. Even though FreeBSD has wonderful SCSI support and ATAPI is just > a way to cram SCSI commands down an IDE interface (suprise... bet you > thought there really was such a thing as an IDE CDROM drive), the > support isn't there yet. Thanks to all who have explained the situation to me. I think what I'll go ahead and do is return the FreeBSD 2.0 CD to WC, and wait for 2.1. Kind of depresssing actually, I was hoping to be able to use it. However, the CD->DOS->install won't work too well for me, as I don't have a lot of extra hard drive space, having now made partitions for FreeBSD, DOS, and Linux. Thanks again. Steve -- Stephen P Potter spp@vx.com Varimetrix Corporation 2350 Commerce Park Drive, Suite 4 Palm Bay, FL 32905 (407) 676-3222 CAD/CAM/CAE/Software From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 20 11:07:59 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA04184 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:07:59 -0700 Received: from jjarray.umd.edu (jjarray.umd.edu [129.2.40.99]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA04178 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:07:56 -0700 Received: (fcawth@localhost) by jjarray.umd.edu (8.6.11/8.3) id OAA05594; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 14:08:01 -0400 From: Fred Cawthorne Message-Id: <199504201808.OAA05594@jjarray.umd.edu> Subject: Has anybody tried the Iomega Zip drive with FreeBSD?? To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 14:08:01 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 222 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk These things look cool. $200 for a removable 100 meg scsi drive, and the media is only $20!! Has anybody tried this under FreeBSD?? Hopefully, it just looks like a normal removable drive to our scsi driver... Fred. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 20 11:21:28 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA04694 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:21:28 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA04686 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:21:23 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA25875; Thu, 20 Apr 95 12:14:57 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9504201814.AA25875@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: FreeBSD and ATAPI/IDE CDs To: spp@vx.com (Stephen Potter) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 12:14:56 MDT Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9504201242.ZM778@squid> from "Stephen Potter" at Apr 20, 95 12:42:12 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [ ... ATAPI/IDE CDROM drive not supported ... ] > Thanks to all who have explained the situation to me. I think what I'll go > ahead and do is return the FreeBSD 2.0 CD to WC, and wait for 2.1. Kind of > depresssing actually, I was hoping to be able to use it. However, the > CD->DOS->install won't work too well for me, as I don't have a lot of extra > hard drive space, having now made partitions for FreeBSD, DOS, and Linux. That's too bad... I was going to suggest you conatct Soren, who is doing the code, and be one of his beta testers. The resulting boot disks should allow you to install from CDROM with no problems. Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 20 11:31:18 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA05080 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:31:18 -0700 Received: from indigo.csci.csusb.edu (nwestfal@indigo.csci.csusb.edu [139.182.38.28]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA05074 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:31:16 -0700 Received: by indigo.csci.csusb.edu (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org id AA13147; Thu, 20 Apr 95 11:28:19 -0700 From: nwestfal@indigo.csci.csusb.edu (Neal Westfall) Message-Id: <9504201828.AA13147@indigo.csci.csusb.edu> Subject: Re: FreeBSD and ATAPI/IDE CDs To: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:28:19 -0700 (PDT) Cc: spp@vx.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9504201622.AA25219@cs.weber.edu> from "Terry Lambert" at Apr 20, 95 10:22:29 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 313 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > No. Even though FreeBSD has wonderful SCSI support and ATAPI is just > a way to cram SCSI commands down an IDE interface (suprise... bet you > thought there really was such a thing as an IDE CDROM drive), the > support isn't there yet. Does this mean that you can attach an "IDE" CDROM to a SCSI adapter? From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 20 11:32:49 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA05138 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:32:49 -0700 Received: from ddi2.digital.net (ddi2.digital.net [198.69.104.3]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA05132 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:32:47 -0700 Received: from vx.com (uucp@localhost) by ddi2.digital.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with UUCP id OAA13120; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 14:30:29 -0500 Received: from squid by vx.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19178; Thu, 20 Apr 95 14:27:30 EDT Received: by squid (931110.SGI/930416.SGI.AUTO) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org id AA02971; Thu, 20 Apr 95 14:27:49 -0400 From: spp@vx.com (Stephen Potter) Message-Id: <9504201427.ZM2969@squid> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 14:27:45 -0400 In-Reply-To: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) "Re: FreeBSD and ATAPI/IDE CDs" (Apr 20, 12:14pm) References: <9504201814.AA25875@cs.weber.edu> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.1.0 22feb94 MediaMail) To: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Subject: Re: FreeBSD and ATAPI/IDE CDs Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Apr 20, 12:14pm, Terry Lambert wrote: > That's too bad... I was going to suggest you conatct Soren, who is doing > the code, and be one of his beta testers. > > The resulting boot disks should allow you to install from CDROM with no > problems. If it's possible to get a boot disk with a kernel that supports IDE, I'd be happy to be a beta tester. Obviously, since I can't install it currently, I'll have to work with someone to build me a kernel that works for my specific setup, but if someone can help me get it going, I'd be very happy. Point me to "Soren". Steve -- Stephen P Potter spp@vx.com Varimetrix Corporation 2350 Commerce Park Drive, Suite 4 Palm Bay, FL 32905 (407) 676-3222 CAD/CAM/CAE/Software From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 20 11:53:33 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA06224 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:53:33 -0700 Received: from vegemite.Stanford.EDU (2842@vegemite.Stanford.EDU [36.159.0.7]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA06218 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:53:31 -0700 Received: (hlew@localhost) by vegemite.Stanford.EDU (8.6.10/8.6.4) id LAA09671; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:53:29 -0700 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:53:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Howard Lew To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: BSDI binary emulation Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! I was wondering how well BSDI binaries work with FreeBSD 2.0R or SNAPs... Netscape binaries work great! But when I tried the BSDI binary for Mosaic 2.5, it segment faulted and dumped core. Oh by the way, is there a Mosaic version that supports 16bpp? Hmmm... any ideas? From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 20 12:01:13 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA06501 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 12:01:13 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA06495 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 12:01:10 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA26332; Thu, 20 Apr 95 12:54:40 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9504201854.AA26332@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: FreeBSD and ATAPI/IDE CDs To: nwestfal@indigo.csci.csusb.edu (Neal Westfall) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 12:54:39 MDT Cc: spp@vx.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9504201828.AA13147@indigo.csci.csusb.edu> from "Neal Westfall" at Apr 20, 95 11:28:19 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > No. Even though FreeBSD has wonderful SCSI support and ATAPI is just > > a way to cram SCSI commands down an IDE interface (suprise... bet you > > thought there really was such a thing as an IDE CDROM drive), the > > support isn't there yet. > > Does this mean that you can attach an "IDE" CDROM to a SCSI adapter? No, not unless the interface translation hardware is seperate. The only seperate hardware I have converts between normal and differential SCSI. I suspect that you won't find any. Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 20 12:02:04 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA06528 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 12:02:04 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA06519 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 12:02:02 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA26344; Thu, 20 Apr 95 12:55:37 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9504201855.AA26344@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: FreeBSD and ATAPI/IDE CDs To: spp@vx.com (Stephen Potter) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 12:55:36 MDT Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9504201427.ZM2969@squid> from "Stephen Potter" at Apr 20, 95 02:27:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [ ... IDE CDROMS (ATAPI) ... ] > If it's possible to get a boot disk with a kernel that supports IDE, I'd be > happy to be a beta tester. Obviously, since I can't install it currently, > I'll have to work with someone to build me a kernel that works for my > specific setup, but if someone can help me get it going, I'd be very happy. > Point me to "Soren". Soren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org | sos@kmd-ac.dk) FreeBSD Core Team Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 20 12:06:49 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA06587 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 12:06:49 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA06581 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 12:06:47 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA26374; Thu, 20 Apr 95 13:00:04 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9504201900.AA26374@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: BSDI binary emulation To: hlew@genome.Stanford.EDU (Howard Lew) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 13:00:04 MDT Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Howard Lew" at Apr 20, 95 11:53:28 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I was wondering how well BSDI binaries work with FreeBSD 2.0R or SNAPs... You must have just missed: ] Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 13:31:20 -0500 (EST) ] From: NatureBoy ] To: hackers@FreeBSD.org ] Subject: TIA running on 3/22 snap ] ] Just a note to say that a coworker of mine bought TIA for BSDI and ] slapped it on his 3/22 snapshot machine and put it through it's paces as ] a slip server. His report is that it works great slipping in from home ] with his laptop running running windoz. No info as to FreeBSD's ] ability to use it as a slip server. The only problem (sorta) he found ] with it is that all icmp packets and some udp packets fail. ] ] Joseph Orthoefer Or more directly, "Pretty darn good!". > Netscape binaries work great! But when I tried the BSDI binary for > Mosaic 2.5, it segment faulted and dumped core. You should do a trace of it (look up "trace" and "ktrace" in the man pages) and report where it fails so that it can be fixed. > Oh by the way, is there a Mosaic version that supports 16bpp? I haven't seen one; typically, you will need an external viewer or NetScape. Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 20 12:11:25 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA06709 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 12:11:25 -0700 Received: from ain.charm.net (ain.charm.net [198.69.35.206]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA06703 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 12:11:23 -0700 Received: (from nc@localhost) by ain.charm.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA12722; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 15:06:59 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 15:06:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Network Coordinator To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Format for Quotas Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk i am interested in enabling quotas on this machine. I can't seem to find the formats for the parameters I need to specify them in quota.user quota.group and /etc/fstab. I have tried some random guesses at the format, but the parser keeps throwing them out. Any help would be great, Thanks, Jerry. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 20 14:05:38 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA10009 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 14:05:38 -0700 Received: from VNET.IBM.COM (vnet.ibm.com [199.171.26.4]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id OAA10001 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 14:05:32 -0700 Received: from FSHVMFK1 by VNET.IBM.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 6636; Thu, 20 Apr 95 17:05:13 EDT X-Mailer: IPERNOTE 5.00m Message-ID: <1995Apr20.170442.37619@vnet.ibm.com> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 17:04:42 EDT From: mpelella@VNET.IBM.COM To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: xvgr-2.10pl1.tgz install procedure Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk What is the install procedure for 'xvgr-2.10pl1.tgz'? I'm running on a RISC/6000 with AIX 3.2.4 or 3.2.5 os. Thanks, Mario M. Pelella IBM Microelectronics, M/S AE1 1580 Route 52 Hopewell Junction, NY 12533-6531 Tel: 914-892-2511 Fax: 914-892-3039 Internet: mpelella@vnet.ibm.com From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 20 14:37:01 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA10891 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 14:37:01 -0700 Received: from rf.dataradio.com (G496.InterLink.NET [198.168.61.62]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id OAA10883 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 14:36:49 -0700 Received: from dri.UUCP by rf.dataradio.com (4.1/1.35) id AA01222; Thu, 20 Apr 95 17:34:04 EDT Message-Id: <9504202134.AA01222@rf.dataradio.com> Received: by dri (UUXFER v1.3c); Thu 20 Apr 1995 17:36:39 EDT From: "Andrew Webster" To: Network Coordinator Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 17:36:32 EST5EDT Subject: Re: Format for Quotas Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org X-Confirm-Reading-To: "Andrew Webster" X-Pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Date sent: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 15:06:59 -0400 (EDT) > From: Network Coordinator > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Format for Quotas > > > i am interested in enabling quotas on this machine. I can't seem to find > the formats for the parameters I need to specify them in quota.user > quota.group and /etc/fstab. > > I have tried some random guesses at the format, but the parser keeps > throwing them out. > > Any help would be great, > > Thanks, > > Jerry. What a coincidence, I was just working on that today. Here is how my fstab entry looks: /dev/wd0g /home ufs rw,userquota 1 1 Do quotaon -a to enable the system Do edquota user to edit the user's quotas. Have fun! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Webster Network Manager / Special Projects Dataradio Inc. 200-5500 Royalmount Ave. TEL: +1 514 737 0020 Town of Mount Royal, QC, CANADA H4P 1H7 FAX: +1 514 737 7883 http://www.dataradio.com Email: awebster@dataradio.com From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 20 15:31:12 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA12314 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 15:31:12 -0700 Received: from halon.sybase.com (halon.sybase.com [192.138.151.33]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA12307 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 15:31:10 -0700 Received: from sybase.com (sybgate.sybase.com) by halon.sybase.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/SybFW4.0) id AA16115; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 15:22:33 -0700 Received: from red_oak.sybgate.sybase.com by sybase.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/SybH3.4) id AA12269; Thu, 20 Apr 95 15:16:54 PDT Received: by red_oak.sybgate.sybase.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/SybEC3.2) id AA12006; Thu, 20 Apr 95 18:16:52 EDT Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 18:16:52 EDT From: jeffa@sybase.com (Jeff Anuszczyk) Message-Id: <9504202216.AA12006@red_oak.sybgate.sybase.com> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Questions/problems installing 950412 SNAP content-length: 0 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Anyone have any ideas on how I should proceed? I'm pretty sure it's not a corrupted disk or anything (I gunzip'd and untar'd it all without a problem). Hmmm, recent discussion about the ep0 driver indicates failure to probe at 0x300. That's where my SMC card is located... do you think that could have anything to do with it? Any help or suggestions would be creately appreciated. - Jeff ----- Begin Included Message ----- >From jeffa Tue Apr 18 22:28:11 1995 From: jeffa (Jeff Anuszczyk) Subject: Questions/problems installing 950412 SNAP To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 18 Apr 95 22:28:05 EDT Cc: jeffa (Jeff Anuszczyk) Hi All, I finally finished downloading the latest SNAP and started to install it. First I made the install disks using dd. Then I booted the floppies and did a "normal" install. About the only things to note are: two SCSI disks (entire disk is used), the primary disk uses all partitions (a,e,f, g,h) for filesystems plus b for swap. I then had a devil of a time booting from the main system disk (recently running 2.0R). I needed to rewrite the boot block a bunch of times before it finally "took". When it failed the system was just booting (the primary booter is loading /kernel). The first 3 of the spining bars printed and then nothing. In any case, I got around this and the system started to boot. At this point the system is probed and promptly crashes with a fatal trap 12. I rebooted and select -c to look at what it was probing. This is were things started to get weird. It turns out that there are four entries marked enabled but has device names of zero/one as follows: Device Port irq drq iomem iosize unit flags enabled fdc0 0x3f0 6 2 0x0 0 0 0x0 Yes . . . aha0 0x330 -1 5 0x0 0 0 0x0 Yes aic0 0x340 11 -1 0x0 0 0 0x0 Yes 0 0x1f88 10 -1 0x0 0 0 0x0 Yes 1 0x350 5 -1 0x0 0 1 0x0 Yes sea0 0x0 5 -1 0xc8000 8192 0 0x0 Yes . . . ze0 0x300 10 -1 0xd8000 0 0 0x0 Yes zp0 0x300 10 -1 0xd8000 0 0 0x0 Yes 0 0xffffffff -1 -1 0x0 0 0 0x0 Yes 0 0xf0 13 -1 0x0 0 0 0x0 Yes I've edited some of the less than important stuff. The problem started immediately after the probe of aic0. The system got the fatal trap 12 and halted. I did a "disable 0" & "disable 1" and the system would now continue to just after the probe of zp0 when it then traped out again. The problem is I can't disable these additional "0" devices since the assumption of the code is a device name is unique. Any suggestions? In case anyone is curious, here is the trap. I suspect you won't need it... but better safe than sorry. This is with all devices enabled: st0(aha0:6:0): Sequential-Access density code 0x8c, drive empty aic0 not found at 0x340 Fatal Trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x431f4a30 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xf01c69a4 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 0 () interrupt mask = net tty bio panic: page fault The system is an AMD DX2/80, 16MB, VLB/ISA Adaptec 1542B, 1GB SCSI-2 (DEC), Archive Python Tape SMC Elite16T This configuration worked fine under 1.1.5.1 & 2.0R. Thanks for any help anyone can offer! - Jeff ----- End Included Message ----- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 20 16:27:06 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id QAA13661 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 16:27:06 -0700 Received: from devnull.mpd.tandem.com (devnull.mpd.tandem.com [131.124.4.29]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA13655 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 16:27:03 -0700 Received: from olympus by devnull.mpd.tandem.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) id SAA03821; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 18:26:44 -0500 Received: by olympus (4.1/TSS2.1) id AA29838; Thu, 20 Apr 95 18:25:06 CDT From: faulkner@mpd.tandem.com (Boyd Faulkner) Message-Id: <9504202325.AA29838@olympus> Subject: Re: rawrite utility for os2? To: echet@coil.com Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 18:25:05 -0500 (CDT) Cc: questions@freefall.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: <199504200453.AAA09608@bronze.coil.com> from "Eric & Rae" at Apr 20, 95 00:49:23 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL17] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 868 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Hello > I'm trying to install FreeBSD but I don't have rawrite to decompress > the floppies. I found the IBM utility LoadDskF it worked fine on the boot disk > but won't work on cpio. Does anybody know of another utility that will work > under Warp or (Warp dos) with will write cpio.flp? I have the FreeBSD binaries > already downloaded. > > Thank You > > Eric - echet@coil.com > > > > dd is available for DOS via the gnuish project. See prep.ai.mit.edu: /pub/gnu/MicroPorts/MSDOS.info or some such file. Many unix utilities for OS/2 are available at hobbes.nmsu.edu and its mirror sites. dd is probably one of them. Boyd -- _______________________________________________________________________ Boyd Faulkner faulkner@isd.tandem.com _______________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 20 17:09:37 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA14665 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 17:09:37 -0700 Received: from hp.com (hp.com [15.255.152.4]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA14658 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 17:09:31 -0700 Received: from hpautow.aus.hp.com by hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.15/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA129502961; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 17:09:21 -0700 Message-Id: <199504210009.AA129502961@hp.com> Received: by hpautow.aus.hp.com (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA17003; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:09:18 +1000 From: M C Wong Subject: Annex router To: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com (freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:09:18 EST X-Mailer: Elm [revision: 109.14.c] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk To all Annex gurus, eventually I have got myself connected to my ISP's Annex after a bit of struggle, right now my 1.1.5.1 (well, it's stable) box is running SLIP into the Annex with a pair of Avtek MegaPlus Fax V.34 (not V.FAST) modems (manufactured by Netcomm in Australia). On Annex side, it is set up to be fixed speed 38.4K. The problem I have is the carrier keeps dropping once per day, and if lucky it will stay up to 2 days, and that's about it. My questions are : 1) Is there a way for one to determine which side is actually the culprit ? 2) Assume it's the ISP side that drops carrier, is there any setting on the Annex which *may* cause such interruption, is there config parameters on Annex that will, say, reset, intitialize the port etc etc that *may* affect my connection ? What commands to view/configure them (since I have no `hands-on' experience with an Annex) ? 3) If it's my side which drops carrier, can anyone think of a likely cause apart from bad line quality, unreliable modem (although this is what I suspect the most as I can get them swapped for `real' Netcomm!) ? 4) Also, with 2 identical brand and model of modems, I still fail to get them connected at 38.4K when I kermit at 38.4K on FreeBSD box. I rang their tech support and was told that I need to kermit at 57.6K to get the 2 modems connected at 38.4K! This kind of confuses me as I tried kermit at 38.4K with a Dynalink 14.4K and it connected at 38.4K straight away! So my quesitions are : 4.1) why ? 4.2) Is there a way one can force both modems to talk at fixed 38.4K. 4.3) Assumes two modes connect at speed XXX, does it mean the PC is talking to the modem at speed XXX as well ? Also, with V.34 modem, does one need to enable compression to get 38.4K ? Thanks in advance. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 20 18:16:43 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id SAA18141 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 18:16:43 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id SAA18132 ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 18:16:41 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: gruber@mpi-sb.mpg.de (Stefan Gruber) cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Getting FreeBSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 20 Apr 95 16:58:19 +0200." <9504201458.AA04144@mpii01018.ag1.mpi-sb.mpg.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 18:16:41 -0700 Message-ID: <18131.798427001@freefall.cdrom.com> From: Gary Palmer (FreeBSD/ARM Team) Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <9504201458.AA04144@mpii01018.ag1.mpi-sb.mpg.de>, Stefan Gruber writ es: >I have certain trouble to get a link to your ftp-side. >Could you give me a hint if there are other possibilites >to receive your (astimated) fabulous software ? There are problems with our 400 ftp user site which will take it off the air until next week at the earliest. freefall.cdrom.com only has 10 ftp users enabled for good reason - the T1 it is sitting on is pretty close to max capacity as it is. Wait until next week or if you have ncftp set it to use the retry option on freefall. Gary From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 20 19:22:01 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id TAA20201 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 19:22:01 -0700 Received: from emws1.ee.ibaraki.ac.jp (emws1.ee.ibaraki.ac.jp [157.80.23.41]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id TAA20195 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 19:21:53 -0700 Message-Id: <199504210221.TAA20195@freefall.cdrom.com> Received: from tao.ee.ibaraki.ac.jp by emws1.ee.ibaraki.ac.jp with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00782; Fri, 21 Apr 95 11:20:55 +0900 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 11:21:53 +0900 To: questions@FreeBSD.org From: wada@emws1.ee.ibaraki.ac.jp (Wada, Tatsuaki/=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCT0JFRBsoQg==?=) Subject: [Q] FTP's put doesn't work on 2.0-950412-SNAP Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp X-Mailer: Eudora-J(1.3.8.5-J13) Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, Last week, I have installed FreeBSD-2.0-950412-SNAP on Gateway 2000 P5-60. In FTP, get or mget works well but put or mput does not work. It seems that some data was transfering, but it did not done. Could somebody tell me what I shall do. -- Tatsuaki Wada Dept. Electrical and Electronic Engineering Ibaraki University 4-12-1 Nakanarusawa, Hitachi, 316, Japan. e-mail: wada@ee.ibaraki.ac.jp From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 20 21:08:24 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id VAA24745 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 21:08:24 -0700 Received: from vespucci.iquest.com (vespucci.iquest.com [199.170.120.42]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA24736 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 21:08:05 -0700 Received: from dkelly.iquest.com (n4hhe.iquest.com [204.177.193.231]) by vespucci.iquest.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA19741; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 23:08:14 -0500 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 23:08:34 CDT From: "David Kelly" Subject: Re: Recommendations for SCSI Controllers To: "Brian Litzinger" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: VersaTerm Link v1.1.5 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Lastly, BT-946C need not apply. I've already got one and it don't >work. Mapped to the same facilities used by the Adaptec, the BT-946C's >BIOS doesn't even so up. 8-( Did you let the BT-946C reformat the drive(s)? Once Upon A Time Adaptec (1540 non-A, B, or C) did something special while formatting the drive. Mine didn't like any HD attached that had not been formated with EZSCSI. I have not found SCSI hard drives to be portable between PC's using different SCSI controllers. On Macintosh's this is trivial. -- David Kelly N4HHE, n4hhe@amsat.org, dkelly@iquest.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 20 21:46:44 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id VAA25797 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 21:46:44 -0700 Received: from ain.charm.net (ain.charm.net [198.69.35.206]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA25789 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 21:46:41 -0700 Received: (from nc@localhost) by ain.charm.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) id AAA14694; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 00:42:30 -0400 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 00:42:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Network Coordinator To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Strange named error? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have been getting this odd error message from named Lame delegation to '131.67.198.in-addr.arpa' from [199.2.252.10] (server for '131.67.198.in-addr.arpa'?) on query on name '36.131.67.198.in-addr.arpa' I'm not sure it really causes a problem, but its kind of strange that named thinks its significant enough to mention. 199.2.252.10 is ns2.sprintlink.net. Its not a big deal, but thanks. -Jerry. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 20 23:59:20 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id XAA01337 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 23:59:20 -0700 Received: from zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA01302 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 23:58:53 -0700 Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (8.6.11/8.6.6) id IAA16005 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 08:57:21 +0200 From: John Hay Message-Id: <199504210657.IAA16005@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Subject: SCSI disk errors To: questions@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-questions) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 08:57:20 +0200 (SAT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1254 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Last night during a make world I got the following errors: Apr 20 23:42:43 angel /kernel: sd0(aha0:0:0): MEDIUM ERROR info:bcf66 csi:3,6f,3,62 asc:11,0 Unrecovered read error field replaceable unit: 15 Apr 20 23:42:43 angel /kernel: , retries:4 Apr 20 23:48:17 angel /kernel: sd0(aha0:0:0): MEDIUM ERROR info:bf20c csi:3,79,3,58 asc:11,0 Unrecovered read error field replaceable unit: 15 Apr 20 23:48:17 angel /kernel: , retries:4 Apr 21 00:03:17 angel /kernel: sd0(aha0:0:0): MEDIUM ERROR info:bf518 csi:3,7a,3,5b asc:11,0 Unrecovered read error field replaceable unit: 15 Apr 21 00:03:17 angel /kernel: , retries:4 Apr 21 02:00:06 angel /kernel: sd0(aha0:0:0): MEDIUM ERROR info:bba69 csi:3,69,3,35 asc:11,0 Unrecovered read error field replaceable unit: 15 I have an Adaptec AHA1542B with a Conner disk and have been using it for a few months with no problems. Is there some program that I can run to fix this or is it the end of the line for this disk:( I have already done a low level format using the build in program in the AHA1542B's bios. It did not help. After I did a restore, I got those type of errors again. Is there somebody that can give me pointers to a program or something that can help? -- John Hay -- jhay@mikom.csir.co.za From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 21 04:43:33 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id EAA06305 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 04:43:33 -0700 Received: from oxmail2.ox.ac.uk (oxmail2.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id EAA06299 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 04:43:29 -0700 Received: from vax.ox.ac.uk by oxmail2.ox.ac.uk. with SMTP (PP) id <04269-0@oxmail2.ox.ac.uk.>; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 12:43:09 +0100 Received: from 163.1.67.21 by vax.ox.ac.uk (MX V4.1 VAX) with SMTP; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 12:42:43 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 12:42:43 +0100 To: FreeBSD-questions@freefall.cdrom.com From: marques@vax.ox.ac.uk (Jose Marques) Subject: Connections being refused after high TCP activity Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am running the NCSA httpd server on FreeBSD 1.1.5.1R and handling about 16,000 connections a day. Last night I noticed that the server had started to refuse connections. On logging on I noticed that only one httpd process was running and that the system was virtually idle. I killed and restarted httpd but this did not resolve the problem. I then did a "netstat" command and noticed that there were a lot of tcp connections most of which were in some sort of terminating state. I eventually cleared the problem by rebooting the machine. It occurs to me that my problem may be due to some buffer or array becoming full with all these closing connections. I had a quick grep in the netinet sources but did not spot anything obvious. Is there such a limit which I can increase? If not could anybody advise me how I can get around my problem. -- Jose Marques From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 21 06:00:01 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA07139 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 06:00:01 -0700 Received: from hda.com (hda.com [199.232.40.182]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA07123 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 05:59:58 -0700 Received: (dufault@localhost) by hda.com (8.6.9/8.3) id IAA15750; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 08:58:56 -0400 From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199504211258.IAA15750@hda.com> Subject: Re: Porting Device Driver To: hill@fluky.mitre.org (William H. Hill) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 08:58:56 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org, hill@fluky.mitre.org In-Reply-To: <9504141813.AA06179@fluky.mitre.org> from "William H. Hill" at Apr 14, 95 02:13:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1212 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk William H. Hill writes: > > > Where can I find information regarding writing device drivers > for FreeBSD? > > I have a driver written (for BSDI) for Adax boards which we use > for X.25, and I'd like to converto to FreeBSD. > > Aside from the obvious differences in arguments passed to driver functions, > which I'm trying to sort out, I'm wondering what else I might run in to. > This is my first venture into device drivers, and I'm told it's fraught > with peril. Any help would be appreciated! I don't know if you ever got any response to this. You shouldn't have too much trouble porting the driver. The "Design and Implementation of the 4.3BSD OS" book by Leffler, McKusick, Karels and Quarterman (Addison Wesley; ISBN 0-201-06196-1) will still apply overall. There are some new quirks having to do with devconf and some new improved functions that aren't documented, but by looking at the source of the other drivers (many of which are in /sys/i386/isa) and asking questions here you shouldn't have much trouble. Peter -- Peter Dufault Real Time Machine Control and Simulation HD Associates, Inc. Voice: 508 433 6936 dufault@hda.com Fax: 508 433 5267 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 21 06:15:42 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA07290 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 06:15:42 -0700 Received: from dtr.com (dtr.rain.com [204.119.8.19]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA07283 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 06:15:40 -0700 From: bmk@dtr.com Received: (from bmk@localhost) by dtr.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id GAA29467; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 06:07:06 -0700 Message-Id: <199504211307.GAA29467@dtr.com> Subject: Re: Strange named error? To: nc@ain.charm.net (Network Coordinator) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 06:07:04 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Network Coordinator" at Apr 21, 95 00:42:29 am Reply-To: bmk@dtr.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 607 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I have been getting this odd error message from named > Lame delegation to '131.67.198.in-addr.arpa' from [199.2.252.10] (server > for '131.67.198.in-addr.arpa'?) on query on name '36.131.67.198.in-addr.arpa' > I'm not sure it really causes a problem, but its kind of strange that > named thinks its significant enough to mention. 199.2.252.10 is > ns2.sprintlink.net. Someone correct me if I'm wrong - but I believe that this is telling you that 199.2.252.10 thinks that you should be the authoritative server for zone 131.67.198.in-addr.arpa - and your BIND information doesn't agree with this. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 21 07:19:11 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id HAA08078 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 07:19:11 -0700 Received: from mail.barrnet.net (mail.BARRNET.NET [131.119.246.7]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA08072 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 07:19:08 -0700 From: mpelella@VNET.IBM.COM Received: from VNET.IBM.COM (vnet.ibm.com [199.171.26.4]) by mail.barrnet.net (8.6.10/MAIL-RELAY-LEN) with SMTP id HAA04413 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 07:16:28 -0700 Received: from FSHVMFK1 by VNET.IBM.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 3479; Fri, 21 Apr 95 10:16:56 EDT X-Mailer: IPERNOTE 5.00m Message-ID: <1995Apr21.101702.78659@vnet.ibm.com> Date: Fri, 21 Apr 95 10:17:02 EDT To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Install Procedure for xvgr-2.10pl1.tgz on IBM RISC/6000 w/ Unix Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk What is the install procedure for xvgr-2.10pl1.tgz on an IBM RISC/6000 with AIX(IBM's UNIX equivalent)? Mario M. Pelella IBM Microelectronics, M/S AE1 1580 Route 52 Hopewell Junction, NY 12533-6531 Tel: 914-892-2511 Fax: 914-892-3039 Internet: mpelella@vnet.ibm.com From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 21 07:43:51 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id HAA08582 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 07:43:51 -0700 Received: from utacnvx.uta.edu (utacnvx.uta.edu [129.107.1.5]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA08576 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 07:43:48 -0700 Received: (from xxnguyen@localhost) by utacnvx.uta.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA29090 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 09:43:41 -0500 From: "Mr. TR Nguyen" Message-Id: <199504211443.JAA29090@utacnvx.uta.edu> Subject: procmail and pine To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org (freebsd-questions) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 95 9:43:40 CDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 21 08:08:35 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA09304 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 08:08:35 -0700 Received: from haven.ios.com (haven.ios.com [198.4.75.45]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA09296 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 08:08:32 -0700 Received: (from rashid@localhost) by haven.ios.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA03215; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 11:09:27 -0400 From: "Rashid Karimov." Message-Id: <199504211509.LAA03215@haven.ios.com> Subject: Re: Getting FreeBSD To: gpalmer@freefall.cdrom.com (Gary Palmer) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 11:09:27 -0400 (EDT) Cc: gruber@mpi-sb.mpg.de, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <18131.798427001@freefall.cdrom.com> from "Gary Palmer" at Apr 20, 95 06:16:41 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 856 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi there folx, > > In message <9504201458.AA04144@mpii01018.ag1.mpi-sb.mpg.de>, Stefan Gruber writ > es: > >I have certain trouble to get a link to your ftp-side. > >Could you give me a hint if there are other possibilites > >to receive your (astimated) fabulous software ? > > There are problems with our 400 ftp user site which will take it off the > air until next week at the earliest. freefall.cdrom.com only has 10 > ftp users enabled for good reason - the T1 it is sitting on is pretty close > to max capacity as it is. Wait until next week or if you have ncftp set it > to use the retry option on freefall. Yep , considering that , here's my contribution : latest SNAP is available at ftp://haven.ios.com/pub/unix/FreeBSD/2.0-950412-SNAP There are no "packages" dir yet , but I do plan to get it here too. So come on in ;) Rashid From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 21 08:24:20 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA09556 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 08:24:20 -0700 Received: from halon.sybase.com (halon.sybase.com [192.138.151.33]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA09548 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 08:24:18 -0700 Received: from sybase.com (sybgate.sybase.com) by halon.sybase.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/SybFW4.0) id AA22061; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 08:20:24 -0700 Received: from red_oak.sybgate.sybase.com by sybase.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/SybH3.4) id AA02787; Fri, 21 Apr 95 08:14:49 PDT Received: by red_oak.sybgate.sybase.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/SybEC3.2) id AA13041; Fri, 21 Apr 95 11:14:47 EDT Date: Fri, 21 Apr 95 11:14:47 EDT From: jeffa@sybase.com (Jeff Anuszczyk) Message-Id: <9504211514.AA13041@red_oak.sybgate.sybase.com> To: mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com Subject: Re: Annex router Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org, jeffa@sybase.com content-length: 5052 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > From owner-freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Thu Apr 20 21:43:42 1995 > From: M C Wong > Subject: Annex router > To: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com (freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com) > The problem I have is the carrier keeps dropping once per day, and if lucky > it will stay up to 2 days, and that's about it. My questions are : Well, as much as I'd love to say you can do *MUCH* better, in the states I find that two days would be very good indeed. Mostly slight glitches in the telco line cause the modem to drop. Not exactly sure why. But I have setup a few perm. on-line systems and the modems pretty much always drop every day or two... sometimes even more often. Perhaps some with much more experience can give their experiences... but in my mind, unless it's a leased line, 24 hours of uptime is good, anymore is great. > 1) Is there a way for one to determine which side is actually the culprit ? Some modems have the ability to query them to determine why the modem dropped (actually why was the last disconnection made). I know that some AT&T modems have this as an AT&V7 type of query. > 2) Assume it's the ISP side that drops carrier, is there any setting on > the Annex which *may* cause such interruption, is there config parameters > on Annex that will, say, reset, intitialize the port etc etc that *may* > affect my connection ? What commands to view/configure them (since I > have no `hands-on' experience with an Annex) ? Can't answer this, although any of which you can *can* happen. Don't know if it *is* happening though. > 3) If it's my side which drops carrier, can anyone think of a likely cause > apart from bad line quality, unreliable modem (although this is what > I suspect the most as I can get them swapped for `real' Netcomm!) ? Bad line quality (i.e. intermittent line noise) usually is the #1 culprit. Please be aware that the faster the modem the more susseptible to noise it is. 28.8K modems (V.34) are pretty decent in their recovery capability but they can drop the link when the noise gets bad enough. I should point out that a "normal" voice grade line is not warranted against noise. As such periodic static bursts can and do happen. I believe it is these that cause the line drop. > 4) Also, with 2 identical brand and model of modems, I still fail to > get them connected at 38.4K when I kermit at 38.4K on FreeBSD box. I > rang their tech support and was told that I need to kermit at 57.6K > to get the 2 modems connected at 38.4K! > This kind of confuses me as I tried kermit at 38.4K with a Dynalink 14.4K > and it connected at 38.4K straight away! So my quesitions are : > 4.1) why ? > 4.2) Is there a way one can force both modems to talk at fixed 38.4K. > 4.3) Assumes two modes connect at speed XXX, does it mean the PC is talking > to the modem at speed XXX as well ? Also, with V.34 modem, does one > need to enable compression to get 38.4K ? Hmmm, first, you should try and set both ends of the link to at least 57.6K. Remember the max uncompressed speed of a V.34 modem is 28.8KB not 38.4KB. As such the "link" speed will never exceed 28.8. However, the connection speed to the modem should be much higher to allow the modem to compress. It is *possible* to get 4x or more compression from V.34 although it is totally data dependant and is usally more like 2x. In any case, connecting to the modem at 38.4KB will only allow the modem to do limited compression. So, to answer your questions: 1) Connecting to the MODEM at > 28.8KB is definately desireable. Pick the fastest speed your hardward can support (usually 57.6KB) Note this is not the modem to modem connect speed (that can't be higher than 28.8) but the modem to computer speed. 2) The remote side modem (the one you are dialing into) will probably need to be set to a fixed speed. Validate that this modem to annex connection speed is at least 57.6KB and that the modem won't auto reset to some other speed upon disconnection. This, by the way, is a very common problem and will subtely keep your total throughput down. 3) In reply to "Is there a way one can force both modems to talk at fixed 38.4K." I'm going to assume you mean computer to modem not modem to modem (see #1 above). The answer to this is yes but you need to look at your owners manual for a description of how to lock the serial port baud rate. 4) As for connect messages, remember there are two connect speeds involved. The computer to modem and the modem to modem speeds. These are independent of each other and should not normally be the same. The computer to modem speed should be very high (57.6KB or higher), the modem to modem connect speed cannot be higher than the V.34 standard of 28.8KB (and normally doesn't even get that high due to line noise... expect 26.4 or so as the normal "real" speed). Hope that answered some of your questions. - Jeff From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 21 08:40:19 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA09724 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 08:40:19 -0700 Received: from trout.sri.MT.net (trout.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.12]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA09718 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 08:40:14 -0700 Received: (from nate@localhost) by trout.sri.MT.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) id JAA12577; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 09:41:13 -0600 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 09:41:13 -0600 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199504211541.JAA12577@trout.sri.MT.net> In-Reply-To: jeffa@sybase.com (Jeff Anuszczyk) "Re: Annex router" (Apr 21, 11:14am) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: jeffa@sybase.com (Jeff Anuszczyk), mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com Subject: Re: Annex router Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > The problem I have is the carrier keeps dropping once per day, and if lucky > > it will stay up to 2 days, and that's about it. My questions are : > > Well, as much as I'd love to say you can do *MUCH* better, in the states > I find that two days would be very good indeed. I guess my provider is better than average then. After the initial first 2 weeks of hassles getting my second line working as a full-time SLIP/PPP link, I've had uptimes of 2 weeks w/out a line drop. Granted, my line was guaranteed to be wired (most of the newer lines are radio), and I live in a small-ish town (< 50K folks). However, on my second line (radio), every night the telco. does a line check about 11 p.m. every night which causes my phones to 'fake-ring', which also caused my modem line to fail every night before I got it switched to copper. I've seen many phone co's. do line checking in the middle of the night at different place, but somehow the line I have now doesn't seem to exhibit the problem. > much more experience can give their experiences... but in my mind, unless > it's a leased line, 24 hours of uptime is good, anymore is great. I would tend to agree. > > 1) Is there a way for one to determine which side is actually the culprit ? It might not be one of the modem's fault as much as a line fault. > Bad line quality (i.e. intermittent line noise) usually is the #1 culprit. > Please be aware that the faster the modem the more susseptible to noise > it is. 28.8K modems (V.34) are pretty decent in their recovery capability > but they can drop the link when the noise gets bad enough. Also note if you have one of the cheaper 28.8K modems, they will retrain down due to bad line noise, but *NOT* retrain up. This means that for some folks, it's better to drop/re-connect since you have a better chance of keeping a high speed link. If you're modems hold onto the link, the modems will realize the line quality is not that good and drop their speed. So, after 3 days your 28.8K modems are doing 2400 baud and require a power-cycle anyway. :( [ Other good advice deleted ] Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 21 08:42:18 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA09754 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 08:42:18 -0700 Received: from hollywood.cinenet.net (hollywood.cinenet.net [198.147.76.65]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA09748 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 08:42:17 -0700 Received: by hollywood.cinenet.net (8.6.12/25-eef) id PAA06841; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 15:38:51 GMT From: Robert Gorichanaz Message-Id: <199504211538.PAA06841@hollywood.cinenet.net> Subject: libcompat.so.2.0 ?!?! To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 08:38:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 216 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Where can I get a copy of libcompat.so.2.0? I just unpacked the April snapshot and I only have libcompat.a. Is there someplace that I could ftp it? or could some kind soul tell me how to create one? thanx -Bob From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 21 09:04:29 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA10182 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 09:04:29 -0700 Received: from rf.dataradio.com (G496.InterLink.NET [198.168.61.62]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA10173 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 09:04:24 -0700 Received: from dri.UUCP by rf.dataradio.com (4.1/1.35) id AA02997; Fri, 21 Apr 95 12:02:25 EDT Message-Id: <9504211602.AA02997@rf.dataradio.com> Received: by dri (UUXFER v1.3c); Fri 21 Apr 1995 12:03:34 EDT From: "Andrew Webster" To: Network Coordinator Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 12:02:00 EST5EDT Subject: Re: Format for Quotas Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org X-Confirm-Reading-To: "Andrew Webster" X-Pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Date sent: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 20:25:17 -0400 (EDT) > From: Network Coordinator > To: Andrew Webster > Subject: Re: Format for Quotas > > Great, now can you just tell me what format the group and user quota > files are in? Actually, these are binary data files, and should not be tampered with. > > I try edquota, but with lines like > > guest 1000 > > edquota doesn't parse. Whats the secret? If when you run edquota, you get a blank screen, you don't have it setup quite right yet. I may have neglected to mention a few steps which may be why you are having difficulty. So here is the proper order in which to do things. 1. Compile the kernel with options QUOTA 2. Edit /etc/fstab and add userquota and/or groupquota to the file systems in which you want to have quotas apply. Putting quotas on /tmp is a very bad idea. 3. Run quotaon -a to enable quotas on all selected file systems 4. Run quotacheck -av to build an initial list of who owns what and how many files. 5. Run edquota username to set quotas on a particular user. You should see for example: edquota andreww Quotas for user andreww: /home: blocks in use: 29000, limits (soft = 0, hard = 0) inodes in use: 720, limits (soft = 0, hard = 0) Edit this file as you see fit. 6. Run edquota -t to set time limits for over-quota conditions (although I can't seem to get this to work right at the moment). 7. Run quotacheck occasionally to fixup any inconsistancies that may occur. Good luck! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Webster Network Manager / Special Projects Dataradio Inc. 200-5500 Royalmount Ave. TEL: +1 514 737 0020 Town of Mount Royal, QC, CANADA H4P 1H7 FAX: +1 514 737 7883 http://www.dataradio.com Email: awebster@dataradio.com From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 21 10:14:09 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA11573 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:14:09 -0700 Received: from eureka.gdl.iteso.mx (eureka.gdl.iteso.mx [148.201.131.3]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA11549 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:13:55 -0700 Received: (from cacho@localhost) by eureka.gdl.iteso.mx (8.6.8/8.6.6) id LAA18267; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 11:14:08 -0600 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 11:14:08 -0600 (CST) From: Hector Gonzalez Jaime To: Andrew Webster cc: Network Coordinator , questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Format for Quotas In-Reply-To: <9504202134.AA01222@rf.dataradio.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 20 Apr 1995, Andrew Webster wrote: > > What a coincidence, I was just working on that today. Here is how my > fstab entry looks: > > /dev/wd0g /home ufs rw,userquota 1 1 > > Do quotaon -a to enable the system > Do edquota user to edit the user's quotas. you should also run quotacheck -a before quotaon if you have one of the snap releases (032295 is what I checked) then just edit /etc/sysconfig, and change check_quotas to YES, then rc.maint will enable them for you. > > Have fun! > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Andrew Webster Network Manager / Special Projects > Dataradio Inc. 200-5500 Royalmount Ave. TEL: +1 514 737 0020 > Town of Mount Royal, QC, CANADA H4P 1H7 FAX: +1 514 737 7883 > http://www.dataradio.com Email: awebster@dataradio.com > From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 21 10:47:55 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA12038 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:47:55 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA12032 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:47:51 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA04040; Fri, 21 Apr 95 11:40:42 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9504211740.AA04040@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: Install Procedure for xvgr-2.10pl1.tgz on IBM RISC/6000 w/ Unix To: mpelella@VNET.IBM.COM Date: Fri, 21 Apr 95 11:40:41 MDT Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <1995Apr21.101702.78659@vnet.ibm.com> from "mpelella@VNET.IBM.COM" at Apr 21, 95 10:17:02 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > What is the install procedure for xvgr-2.10pl1.tgz on an IBM RISC/6000 > with AIX(IBM's UNIX equivalent)? The tgz extension is indicative of a BSD package format binary image, Which is basically a gzipped tar image. So you would gunzip it with the gzip utilities (I believe they are on prep.ai.mit.edu, or in the BSD source tree under /usr/src/gnu/...), then you would untar it, and then there are package controls built into some well-known file names in that archive. If you are getting a source package, you might be better off going to the home site for the package instead of taking it our of the FreeBSD archives. Note that BSD/Intel binaries, even if properly extracted, will not run on AIX on an RS/6000. You *must* get source and you *must* build it yourself. It is possible that the home site for the software in the package will have prebuilt AIX binaries for you. Determining the home site from the package requires pulling out the documentation. Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 21 10:43:08 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA11966 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:43:08 -0700 Received: from vhf.dataradio.com ([198.168.41.55]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA11960 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:43:05 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by vhf.dataradio.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id MAA02732; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 12:38:53 -0400 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 12:38:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Webster To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Quotas Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk FreeBSD has disk quotas which are great! The question: What about time/connection quotas? Does anyone have a package, or scripts for this? Thanks! ----- Andrew Webster DATARADIO, Inc. Network Manager http://www.dataradio.com Special Projects awebster@dataradio.com From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 21 11:26:17 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA16156 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 11:26:17 -0700 Received: from utacnvx.uta.edu (utacnvx.uta.edu [129.107.1.5]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA16150 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 11:26:15 -0700 Received: (from xxnguyen@localhost) by utacnvx.uta.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA01951 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 13:24:32 -0500 From: "Mr. TR Nguyen" Message-Id: <199504211824.NAA01951@utacnvx.uta.edu> Subject: Pine and procmail Questions To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org (freebsd-questions) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 95 13:24:32 CDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 21 11:26:13 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA16149 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 11:26:13 -0700 Received: from utacnvx.uta.edu (utacnvx.uta.edu [129.107.1.5]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA16143 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 11:26:11 -0700 Received: (from xxnguyen@localhost) by utacnvx.uta.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA01981 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 13:26:08 -0500 From: "Mr. TR Nguyen" Message-Id: <199504211826.NAA01981@utacnvx.uta.edu> Subject: Pine and procmail questions To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org (freebsd-questions) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 95 13:26:08 CDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From nguyen@omega.uta.edu Fri Apr 21 09:42:06 1995 Received: from omega.uta.edu (omega.uta.edu [129.107.1.23]) by utacnvx.uta.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id JAA29060 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 09:42:05 -0500 Received: (from nguyen@localhost) by omega.uta.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA01915 for xxnguyen@utacnvx; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 09:42:05 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 09:42:05 -0500 From: TR Nguyen Message-Id: <199504211442.JAA01915@omega.uta.edu> Apparently-To: xxnguyen@utacnvx.uta.edu Status: O Hello BSD'ers! A friend of mine has 2 questions for you: 1. Where can he find procmail? *************************************************************************** 2. He has obtained the current version of pine, as well as the patch file "patch-aa" from freebsd.cdrom.com's port, However, he is having problem building pine and pico, even when the patch has been applied. Where can he find an error-free version? Or did he not get the correct patch? Enclosed is a capture of the failed build attempt. TIA, Trung Ng. ************************************************************************* [some cc lines deleted] cc -g -O -pipe -c newsrc.c rm -f c-client.a ar rc c-client.a mail.o bezerk.o mtx.o tenex2.o mbox.o mh.o mmdf.o imap2.o pop3. o news.o nntpcunx.o phile.o dummy.o smtp.o nntp.o rfc822.o misc.o osdep.o sm_u nix.o newsrc.o ranlib c-client.a ranlib: c-client.a: Undefined error: 0 *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. Making Pico [some cc lines deleted] cc -c -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g -O -pipe line.c cc -c -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g -O -pipe osdep.c osdep.c: In function `alt_editor': osdep.c:644: warning: passing arg 1 of `wait' from incompatible pointer type osdep.c: In function `errstr': osdep.c:961: warning: return discards `const' from pointer target type cc -c -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g -O -pipe pico.c cc -c -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g -O -pipe random.c cc -c -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g -O -pipe region.c cc -c -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g -O -pipe search.c cc -c -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g -O -pipe spell.c cc -c -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g -O -pipe tcap.c cc -c -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g -O -pipe window.c cc -c -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g -O -pipe word.c ar ru libpico.a attach.o ansi.o basic.o bind.o browse.o buffer.o composer.o dis play.o file.o fileio.o line.o osdep.o pico.o random.o region.o search.o spell.o tcap.o window.o word.o ar: creating archive libpico.a ranlib libpico.a ranlib: libpico.a: Cannot allocate memory *** Error code 1 Stop. Making Pine. rm -f os.h cc -O -pipe -g -DSYSTYPE=\"BSF\" -c help.c ./cmplhelp.sh < pine.hlp > helptext.c cc -O -pipe -g -DSYSTYPE=\"BSF\" -c helptext.c [some cc lines deleted] cc -O -pipe -g -DSYSTYPE=\"BSF\" -c ttyout.c cd osdep; make includer os-bsf.c; cd .. cc -o includer includer.c ./includer < os-bsf.ic > os-bsf.c rm -f os.c ln -s osdep/os-bsf.c os.c cc -O -pipe -g -DSYSTYPE=\"BSF\" -c os.c os.c: In function `close_system_pipe': os.c:1321: warning: passing arg 1 of `wait' from incompatible pointer type echo "char datestamp[]="\"`date`\"";" > date.c cc -c -O -pipe -g -DSYSTYPE=\"BSF\" -o date.o date.c cc -O -pipe -g -DSYSTYPE=\"BSF\" -o pine addrbook.o adrbklib.o args.o context .o filter.o folder.o help.o helptext.o imap.o init.o mailcap.o mailcmd.o maili ndx.o mailpart.o mailview.o newmail.o other.o pine.o print.o reply.o screen.o s end.o signals.o status.o strings.o ttyin.o ttyout.o os.o date.o ../pico/libpico .a ../c-client/c-client.a -ltermlib -lcrypt cc: Internal compiler error: program ld got fatal signal 11 *** Error code 1 Stop. Links to executables are in bin directory: size: bin/pine: No such file or directory size: bin/mtest: No such file or directory size: bin/imapd: No such file or directory size: bin/pico: No such file or directory Done From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 21 14:44:34 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA21389 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 14:44:34 -0700 Received: from ain.charm.net (ain.charm.net [198.69.35.206]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA21378 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 14:44:31 -0700 Received: (from nc@localhost) by ain.charm.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA16067; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 17:40:23 -0400 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 17:40:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Network Coordinator To: bmk@dtr.com cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Strange named error? In-Reply-To: <199504211307.GAA29467@dtr.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 21 Apr 1995 bmk@dtr.com wrote: > Someone correct me if I'm wrong - but I believe that this is telling you > that 199.2.252.10 thinks that you should be the authoritative server for > zone 131.67.198.in-addr.arpa - and your BIND information doesn't agree > with this. Well, that *shouldn't* be the case. This system is not the authority for anything. It just runs its own name server and forwards the requests to more apt servers. Literally, there are no primary entries in named.boot, and a well equipped root.cache. Thanks though, -Jerry. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 21 15:10:15 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA22111 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 15:10:15 -0700 Received: from ain.charm.net (ain.charm.net [198.69.35.206]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA22105 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 15:10:12 -0700 Received: (from nc@localhost) by ain.charm.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA16492; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 18:06:03 -0400 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 18:06:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Network Coordinator To: Nate Williams cc: Jeff Anuszczyk , mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com, questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Annex router In-Reply-To: <199504211541.JAA12577@trout.sri.MT.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 21 Apr 1995, Nate Williams wrote: > However, on my second line (radio), every night the telco. does a line > check about 11 p.m. every night which causes my phones to 'fake-ring', > which also caused my modem line to fail every night before I got it > switched to copper. I am on copper, as far as I can tell, and I am *lucky* when the line is up for 2 days straight. Is there anything I can do with the phone company that will work? I thought that if I tried to explain the problem to them they'd think I am insane. Any ideas? Thanks, -Jerry. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 21 15:10:55 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA22125 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 15:10:55 -0700 Received: from critter.clark.net (critter.clark.net [168.143.4.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA22119 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 15:10:52 -0700 Received: (from rjs@localhost) by critter.clark.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id RAA05750; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 17:12:28 GMT Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 17:07:44 +0000 From: Ron Steele Subject: HP ftok() equivalent To: question freebsd Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am porting some software from HP-UX to FreeBSD. The HP application uses a function called ftok() to generate a unique interger based on a file path. This number is used to generate a key for message queues, thus allowing processes that know this file name to communicate. I can't seem to find this function in FreeBSD, is there something simular available? From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 21 15:48:28 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA23459 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 15:48:28 -0700 Received: from trout.sri.MT.net (trout.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.12]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA23451 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 15:48:15 -0700 Received: (from nate@localhost) by trout.sri.MT.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) id QAA13769; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 16:51:22 -0600 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 16:51:22 -0600 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199504212251.QAA13769@trout.sri.MT.net> In-Reply-To: Network Coordinator "Re: Annex router" (Apr 21, 6:06pm) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: Network Coordinator Subject: Re: Annex router Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [ Private email, no sense boring the mailing list with this ] > > However, on my second line (radio), every night the telco. does a line > > check about 11 p.m. every night which causes my phones to 'fake-ring', > > which also caused my modem line to fail every night before I got it > > switched to copper. > > I am on copper, as far as I can tell, and I am *lucky* when the line is > up for 2 days straight. Is there anything I can do with the phone company > that will work? I thought that if I tried to explain the problem to them > they'd think I am insane. Most phone companies are pretty good about these things. I was lucky in that U.S. West is in the middle of a bit lawsuit from a consumer group who claims they aren't doing a very good job of customer support, so they have been *very* good about making sure I'm a happy customer. They understand dedicated phones lines, and when I setup my line they asked what it was used for which actually made it easier for them to understand the importance of the problem when I had problems later. I live in Helena Montana and they understood the issues, I suspect most places in the U.S. are pretty well versed in the requirements of dedicated phones lines. However, there is no guarantee that your line must work 24 hrs/day 365 days/yr with a standard phone line, so they may opt out and you'll be stuck with the service you have now. Why is it such a big problem? During my problems, I setup my modem to auto-redial until it connects in case my work machine rebooted. It's also setup to auto-dial when my box reboots, so it's a no brainer now. I don't have to do anything as it's all automated on both ends. There are advantages to being your own ISP. :-) Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 21 16:10:58 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id QAA24052 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 16:10:58 -0700 Received: from ns.obu.edu (root@ns.obu.edu [150.208.250.18]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA24046 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 16:10:54 -0700 Received: from mailgate.obu.edu (mailgate.obu.edu [150.208.250.2]) by ns.obu.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA00410 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 18:06:08 -0500 Received: From ALPHA/WORKQUEUE by mailgate.obu.edu via Charon-4.0A-VROOM with IPX id 100.950421180924.320; 21 Apr 95 18:10:21 +0100 Message-ID: From: "John Selph" Organization: Ouachita Baptist Univ To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 18:09:18 CST Subject: new install of FreeBSD and some things aren't there. Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I can't run adduser, or deluser which doesn't seem to be on my system. I installed the "bindist" and I can't figure out how to install any other packages so I ran "sup" which didn't add adduser or anything else from what I can tell. I guess it only does updates. The system seems fine and stable, and all there which is why I'm puzzled about the "adduser" and delete user thing. Also I have a more trivial question. How do I turn off the "ESMTP spoke here" message in sendmail? It's not compatible with one of our mail systems. And is there a dos emulator that runs text mode programs? *** John Selph, Network Manager selphj@alpha.obu.edu *** *** Ouachita Baptist University, OBU box 3794 *** *** 410 Ouachita Street office phone: (501)245-5567 *** *** Arkadelphia, AR 71998 OBU fax: (501)245-5500 *** From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 21 16:14:16 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id QAA24224 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 16:14:16 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id QAA24210 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 16:14:10 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA05401; Fri, 21 Apr 95 16:12:13 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9504212212.AA05401@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: HP ftok() equivalent To: rjs@clark.net (Ron Steele) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 95 16:12:12 MDT Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: from "Ron Steele" at Apr 21, 95 05:07:44 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I am porting some software from HP-UX to FreeBSD. The HP application > uses a function called ftok() to generate a unique interger based > on a file path. This number is used to generate a key for message queues, > thus allowing processes that know this file name to communicate. > > I can't seem to find this function in FreeBSD, is there something > simular available? Try adding -lcompat. ftok() is a trivial combination of stat information from the file in question (see the HP or Sun man page about how to write your own). Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 21 16:50:10 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id QAA25127 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 16:50:10 -0700 Received: from dtr.com (dtr.rain.com [204.119.8.19]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA25121 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 16:50:06 -0700 From: bmk@dtr.com Received: (from bmk@localhost) by dtr.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA19628; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 16:39:47 -0700 Message-Id: <199504212339.QAA19628@dtr.com> Subject: Re: Annex router To: nate@trout.sri.MT.net (Nate Williams) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 16:39:46 -0700 (PDT) Cc: jeffa@sybase.com, mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199504211541.JAA12577@trout.sri.MT.net> from "Nate Williams" at Apr 21, 95 09:41:13 am Reply-To: bmk@dtr.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 975 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > The problem I have is the carrier keeps dropping once per day, and if lucky > > > it will stay up to 2 days, and that's about it. My questions are : > > > > Well, as much as I'd love to say you can do *MUCH* better, in the states > > I find that two days would be very good indeed. > I guess my provider is better than average then. After the initial > first 2 weeks of hassles getting my second line working as a full-time > SLIP/PPP link, I've had uptimes of 2 weeks w/out a line drop. Same here. Sometimes I only get 1-3 days - sometimes it'll drop three or four times in a half hour. Usually, I'll get a week or so in between drops. > Granted, my line was guaranteed to be wired (most of the newer lines are > radio), and I live in a small-ish town (< 50K folks). I live in an older neighborhood in a medium-sized (.5 million) city. We've got pretty old copper - but it seems to work well. ...but we're straying from the topic of FreeBSD, aren't we? :) From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 21 16:56:11 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id QAA25191 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 16:56:11 -0700 Received: from dtr.com (dtr.rain.com [204.119.8.19]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA25185 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 16:56:07 -0700 From: bmk@dtr.com Received: (from bmk@localhost) by dtr.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA20011; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 16:48:53 -0700 Message-Id: <199504212348.QAA20011@dtr.com> Subject: Re: Strange named error? To: nc@ain.charm.net (Network Coordinator) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 16:48:52 -0700 (PDT) Cc: bmk@dtr.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Network Coordinator" at Apr 21, 95 05:40:22 pm Reply-To: bmk@dtr.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 614 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On Fri, 21 Apr 1995 bmk@dtr.com wrote: > > Someone correct me if I'm wrong - but I believe that this is telling you > > that 199.2.252.10 thinks that you should be the authoritative server for > > zone 131.67.198.in-addr.arpa - and your BIND information doesn't agree > > with this. > Well, that *shouldn't* be the case. This system is not the authority for > anything. It just runs its own name server and forwards the requests to > more apt servers. Oops sorry - had it backwards. > Literally, there are no primary entries in named.boot, and a well > equipped root.cache. > Thanks though, > -Jerry. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 22 06:34:50 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA22894 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 06:34:50 -0700 Received: from w8hd.w8hd.org (w8hd.w8hd.org [198.252.159.10]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA22888 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 06:34:48 -0700 Received: (from kimc@localhost) by w8hd.w8hd.org (8.6.11/w8hd) id JAA11874; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 09:34:47 -0400 Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 09:34:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Kim Culhan To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: How to 'tear down' system -rebuild with SNAP? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Its been so long since I installed this system from the 2.0R cdrom that I had to review the process for reinstalling. This is in connection with the need to upgrade to the 0412 SNAP. Since I planned on installing over the Net, the process required appears to be: 1) Make the floppies from the most recent images on freefall. (It looks like the easiest way is to borrow the use of a friend's net-connected Windows machine and ftp the images with that..) 2) Boot dos and then the images per the INSTALL file on freefall in the 0412-SNAP directory. 3) Repartition the SCSI disk so it doesn't have 300 mb devoted to DOS. In connection with the above, try to grok the comments in the install script regarding the importance of making a 'small dos slice to ensure that the drive parameters are the same as what dos would have used if this were dos.' -I've never fully understood this but wish I did.. 4) Use the install script and associated binaries on the boot floppies to get the SNAP off the net via drivers for my SMC Elite 16 network card. 5) Hope the install stuff on the boot floppies understands how to deal with a SNAP release. If theres anything wrong/missing from this series of events, any corrections or comments are very greatly appreciated. regards kim -- kimc@w8hd.org From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 22 06:51:41 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA23070 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 06:51:41 -0700 Received: from freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (freenet.edmonton.ab.ca [198.161.206.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id GAA23064 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 06:51:39 -0700 Received: by freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/FEAC1.002) id AA55268; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 07:37:23 -0600 Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 07:37:23 -0600 (MDT) From: Bill Lee To: Eric & Rae Cc: questions@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: Re: rawrite utility for os2? In-Reply-To: <199504200453.AAA09608@bronze.coil.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 20 Apr 1995, Eric & Rae wrote: > I'm trying to install FreeBSD but I don't have rawrite to decompress > the floppies. I found the IBM utility LoadDskF it worked fine on the boot disk > but won't work on cpio. Does anybody know of another utility that will work > under Warp or (Warp dos) with will write cpio.flp? I have the FreeBSD binaries > already downloaded. Eric, When I installed FreeBSD from the CD, I simply used the MAKEFLP.BAT in the root directory of the CD from an OS/2 DOS session. It worked like a champ. Here's the content of MAKEFLP.BAT; it uses a DOS version of rawrite which I expect you can FTP from wherever you got the kernal. echo off echo Prepare two fresh 1.44MB floppies and format them BOTH when format is echo invoked for you. When done, exit format and label one "boot" and echo the other "cpio". echo format a: echo Please insert the boot floppy pause tools\dos_tool\rawrite floppies\boot.flp a echo Please remove the boot floppy and insert the cpio floppy pause tools\dos_tool\rawrite floppies\cpio.flp a: echo Done! When you are ready to install, reinsert the boot floppy and echo reset the machine. pause echo on BTW, I can confirm that the OS/2 boot manager will boot a FreeBSD partition just fine, in case you were wondering. <> ------------------------------------------------- Bill Lee E-mail: billlee@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Edmonton, Alberta, Canada From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 22 10:35:47 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA27677 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 10:35:47 -0700 Received: from albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu (albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu [128.52.46.31]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA27671 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 10:35:46 -0700 From: kristyn@gnu.ai.mit.edu Received: from spiff.gnu.ai.mit.edu by albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9GNU) with SMTP id NAA26259 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 13:35:43 -0400 Received: by spiff.gnu.ai.mit.edu (5.65/4.0) id ; Sat, 22 Apr 95 13:35:20 -0400 Message-Id: <9504221735.AA28588@spiff.gnu.ai.mit.edu> Subject: Printcap for HP Deskjet 540? To: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com (FreeBSD Questions) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 13:35:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL5] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 193 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hiya, Does anyone have a printcap entry for an HP Deskjet 540? -----Kris -- -=(*)=- Kristyn Fayette -=(*)=- kristyn@gnu.ai.mit.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 22 11:46:27 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA29590 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 11:46:27 -0700 Received: from grep.cs.fsu.edu (grep.cs.fsu.edu [128.186.121.152]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA29584 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 11:46:24 -0700 Received: by grep.cs.fsu.edu (8.6.9/56) id OAA20998; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 14:46:21 -0400 From: Gang-Ryung Uh Message-Id: <199504221846.OAA20998@grep.cs.fsu.edu> Subject: Two Problems? To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 14:46:21 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1270 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, all... I have been playing with the system initialization files as a root because of PS2 mouse, speaker, and printer, modem..... Now I believe I have decent progress in those matters: But I have a couple of problems as a normal user: First: I can not run the x-window as a regular user? I have installed XFree86.3.1.1 recently. The error message is TRANS(SocketUNIXConnect) () can't connect: errno = 13 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 22 14:34:53 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA03910 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 14:34:53 -0700 Received: from grep.cs.fsu.edu (grep.cs.fsu.edu [128.186.121.152]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA03903 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 14:34:51 -0700 Received: by grep.cs.fsu.edu (8.6.9/56) id RAA22547; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 17:34:37 -0400 From: Gang-Ryung Uh Message-Id: <199504222134.RAA22547@grep.cs.fsu.edu> Subject: Two Problems? (fwd) To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 17:34:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1679 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Forwarded message: >From uh@grep.cs.fsu.edu Sat Apr 22 14:46:26 1995 From: Gang-Ryung Uh Message-Id: <199504221846.OAA20998@grep.cs.fsu.edu> Subject: Two Problems? To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 14:46:21 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1270 Hi, all... I have been playing with the system initialization files as a root because of PS2 mouse, speaker, and printer, modem..... Now I believe I have decent progress in those matters: But I have a couple of problems as a normal user: First: I can not run the x-window as a regular user? I have installed XFree86.3.1.1 recently. The error message is TRANS(SocketUNIXConnect) () can't connect: errno = 13 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 22 18:14:35 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id SAA08837 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 18:14:35 -0700 Received: from tasman.cc.utas.edu.au (cp_nairn@tasman.cc.utas.edu.au [131.217.10.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA08831 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 18:14:33 -0700 Received: (from cp_nairn@localhost) by tasman.cc.utas.edu.au (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA03361; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 11:14:26 +1000 Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 11:14:25 +1000 (EST) From: Carey Nairn To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: tkined-1.2 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I have just unpacked the tkined-1.2 package from the 2.0-RELEASE packages directory onto my machine. I am running 950322-SNAP on a 486DX40. When I execute tkined I get the following error: ld.so: tkined: libBLT.so.1.7: Undefined error: 0 I don't seem to have libBLT.so.1.7 on my system anywhere.. does anyone know where i can get it ?? Thanks ========================================================================= Carey Nairn ! email : Carey.Nairn@its.utas.edu.au Networks and Communications ! phone : (002) 20 7419 Information Technology Services ! fax : (002) 20 7898 University of Tasmania. ! ========================================================================= From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 22 19:37:56 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id TAA10815 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 19:37:56 -0700 Received: from maelstrom.Berkeley.EDU (geordan@maelstrom-ether.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.184.248]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA10809 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 19:37:53 -0700 Received: (from geordan@localhost) by maelstrom.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA14344; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 19:37:50 -0700 Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 19:37:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Geordan Rosario X-Sender: geordan@maelstrom.berkeley.edu To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD's boot manager Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, How exactly does the "Write MBR (B)ootcode" work? Does the target drive need unpartitioned space? I have two IDE drives, each partitioned into one big hunk that fills up each drive. I want to install FreeBSD on my SCSI drive (yes, it has a boot BIOS), and I want a boot manager. Will I have to repartition the first IDE? I am also running OS/2, but not in a separate partition from DOS, so I am not using OS/2 boot manager. Does FreeBSD's boot manager work with OS/2? I would also like a general outline of what I will have to do to install FreeBSD on my setup. I am unclear on which drive I should (W)rite MBR, the SCSI (I think that is what, but unsure) or the boot IDE. Thanks, -Geordan +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ |Geordan Rosario. Virtually existent at geordan@ocf.berkeley.edu or | | Warped with 70274.460@compuserve.com | | OS/2! http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu:80/~geordan | +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ | Adaptec Tech Support | The opinions expressed here are mine and may be | | *SUCKS*! | purchased for $10 each. | +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ | And the Unix user said, "rm -r *" -- and all was null and void. | +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 22 21:27:45 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id VAA13214 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 21:27:45 -0700 Received: from cats.ucsc.edu (root@cats-po-1.UCSC.EDU [128.114.129.22]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA13208 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 21:27:44 -0700 Received: from scruz.ucsc.edu by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id VAA29007; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 21:27:02 -0700 Received: from osprey by scruz.ucsc.edu id aa08317; 22 Apr 95 21:23 PDT Received: (from markd@localhost) by Grizzly.COM (8.6.9/8.6.9) id UAA14355; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 20:55:21 -0700 Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 20:55:21 -0700 From: Mark Diekhans Message-Id: <199504230355.UAA14355@Grizzly.COM> To: cp_nairn@cc.utas.edu.au CC: questions@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: (message from Carey Nairn on Sun, 23 Apr 1995 11:14:25 +1000 (EST)) Subject: Re: tkined-1.2 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >I have just unpacked the tkined-1.2 package from the 2.0-RELEASE packages >directory onto my machine. I am running 950322-SNAP on a 486DX40. >When I execute tkined I get the following error: > >ld.so: tkined: libBLT.so.1.7: Undefined error: 0 > >I don't seem to have libBLT.so.1.7 on my system anywhere.. >does anyone know where i can get it ?? BLT is an extension toolkit to Tk done by George Howlett, its not part of FreeBSD. I don't know if its in the ports directory, but the source is available from: ftp://ftp.aud.alcatel.com/tcl/extensions/BLT-1.7.tar.gz From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 22 21:53:21 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id VAA13413 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 21:53:21 -0700 Received: from amalfi.trl.OZ.AU (amalfi.trl.OZ.AU [137.147.99.99]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA13407 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 21:53:19 -0700 Received: from netbsd08.dn.itg.telecom.com.au ([144.139.63.32]) by amalfi.trl.OZ.AU (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA13016; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 14:51:26 +1000 Received: from netbsd08.dn.itg.telecom.com.au (netbsd08.dn.itg.telecom.com.au [144.139.63.32]) by netbsd08.dn.itg.telecom.com.au (8.6.8/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA17540; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 13:15:06 +0800 Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 13:15:06 +0800 (WST) From: Terry Dwyer To: Carey Nairn cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: tkined-1.2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 23 Apr 1995, Carey Nairn wrote: > Hi, > > I have just unpacked the tkined-1.2 package from the 2.0-RELEASE packages > directory onto my machine. I am running 950322-SNAP on a 486DX40. > When I execute tkined I get the following error: > > ld.so: tkined: libBLT.so.1.7: Undefined error: 0 > > I don't seem to have libBLT.so.1.7 on my system anywhere.. > does anyone know where i can get it ?? > > Thanks Have a look at: http://sol.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de/ibr/projects/nm/tkined/ This is the home of tkined and scotty. An archie search for blt-1.7 reveals it is located at: ftp.syd.dit.csiro.au in /pub/tk/contrib/extensions/ PS did you get scotty as well? - you need it. _-_|\ Terry Dwyer E-Mail: tdwyer@netbsd08.dn.itg.telecom.com.au / \ System Administrator Phone: +61 9 491 5161 Fax: +61 9 221 2631 *_.^\_/ Telecom Australia Telstra Corporation MIME capable mailer v Perth WA ( I do not speak for Telstra or Telecom )