Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 16:25:44 -0400 From: Bill Moran <wmoran@iowna.com> To: 'Don Dugger' <dugger@hotlz.com> Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: RE: upgrades [each time more trouble] Message-ID: <01C0E925.2DA4A300.wmoran@iowna.com>
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Everything except ports. -----Original Message----- From: Don Dugger [SMTP:dugger@hotlz.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 12:34 PM To: Bill Moran Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: upgrades [each time more trouble] I'll admit I've never tried cvsup, I've been meaning to look into it. How mush of the system dose it update? Don 8) Bill Moran wrote: > > Don Dugger wrote: > > > > Let me start by saying that upgrading any OS is a problem. With Windoze > > the bugs it introduces are hidden by the general buggy nature of the OS. > > My customer on Sun usually wait until Sun no longer supports the version > > there on before upgrading, and same with HP UX. Redhat has done a great > > deal of work to make upgrades easier with varying success. > > > > Having said that, I too feel that FreeBSD community has put less effort > > in making upgrades easier. I started with FreeBSD 1.5 and some upgrades > > went well and other gave me problems. In all cases they were an effort, > > which I did not look forward to. There has been a project in work > > towards this as far back as I've been using FreeBSD, but it seems not > > mush progress has been made. I think this maybe due to the fact that the > > effort has been to make the install easier rather then the upgrade > > easier. I have seen HOW TOs, but there usually out of date with each > > release. I tried writing scripts to reinstall the packages and ports, > > but with release they had to modified. > > > > Now having said that, I would rather use FreeBSD then any other OS. I'm > > bring this up to see what others think and what sort of solution others > > are using. > > I'm curious, when you say upgrade are you talking about the binary > upgrade procedure? I didn't get the impression that the original poster > was talking about that, but I may be wrong. > Can't really comment on that, since I've never used it. > With regards to Ted's earlier posts, my servers never get upgraded > unless a security problem is announced that poses a threat to that > particular server, or hardware gets replaced. > My personal workstation (which uses FreeBSD exclusively) was installed > with a clean 4.0-RELEASE and has been upgraded every month or so (via > cvsup) ever since. I think the mergemaster system is fantastic, and I've > had no problems with ports. > When I upgrade ports, I back up config files, do a pkg_delete of the old > version and any dependencies and then reinstall the port from scratch > and merge the old config files back in. This is somewhat time consuming, > but I've never had any problems. > The cvsup system and make world system are incredible. I want to take a > minute to congratulate everyone who's involved in that for keeping it > working so well. > I, too, prefer FreeBSD to anything else I've used. I occasionally get an > itching to see what all the Linux fuss is about, and install it > somewhere to play with, but I've never actually used Linux for anything. > > -Bill > > -- > If a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush, > then what can I get for two hands in the bush? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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