From owner-freebsd-arch Mon Apr 9 13: 5:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from meow.osd.bsdi.com (meow.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2E0937B62C for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 13:05:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@jhb-laptop.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.241]) by meow.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f39K42G26891; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 13:04:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20010408113054.L76422@wantadilla.lemis.com> Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 13:04:34 -0700 (PDT) From: John Baldwin To: Greg Lehey Subject: Re: Making ddb a kld Cc: FreeBSD-arch@FreeBSD.org, Bruce Evans Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 08-Apr-01 Greg Lehey wrote: > On Saturday, 7 April 2001 at 17:37:27 +1000, Bruce Evans wrote: >> On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Greg Lehey wrote: >> >>> A little over a year, I did some work for Sitara Networks. In the >>> course of this work, I made ddb an lkm, in order to be able to load it >>> on a production system if needed. >>> >>> I'm now in the process of merging Sitara's code, which is based on >>> 3.2-RELEASE, into RELENG_4. Sitara have generously agreed that we can >>> commit any fixes they have in their tree which are not vital to their >>> commercial interests. The ddb mods would be one of them. Do we want >>> to do this? >> >> Of course not. >> >>> The pros and cons I see are: >>> >>> Pro: >>> >>> 1. We often get people who say "my system crashes. Why". On >>> checking, there's no practical way to determine why, because they >>> don't have a debugger in the system. >> >> They can run gdb if they have a panic dump. > > If they have a panic dump and a kernel with symbols. You'll recall > that all attempts of mine to get the latter as default have been shot > down in flames. Oh geez. www.freebsd.org/~jhb/patches/newkern.patch for current. I just haven't tested to make sure that hte alpha CD still boots ok with the mfsroot changes. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message