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Date:      Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:17:02 +0200
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@FreeBSD.org>
To:        CZUCZY Gergely <gergely.czuczy@harmless.hu>
Cc:        freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, Jeremy Chadwick <koitsu@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: Thinking of using ZFS/FBSD for a backup system
Message-ID:  <48749E2E.40308@FreeBSD.org>
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CZUCZY Gergely wrote:

> "Stable ZFS" would mean, that these circumstances are cleared, and there's a
> proven garantee (either mathematically) that it's _unable_ to panic due to this
> memory allocation issue.

I suppose you can choose to use this definition if you like, but it must 
be kind of terrifying to live in a world where all but the most trivial 
of programs are "unstable" and MIGHT CRASH AT ANY MOMENT OH GOD NO.

While technically true, I don't think it's a functionally useful 
definition to equate "stable" with "proven to be perfect", so I won't 
continue to debate the point.

ZFS is what it is, several of us have shown that it is possible to tune 
memory parameters to make it fit into a FreeBSD kernel, and users can 
either take that for what it's worth, or decide that ZFS is not for them.

Kris




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