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Date:      Mon, 28 Mar 2011 19:59:52 +0000
From:      Alexander Best <arundel@freebsd.org>
To:        Maksim Yevmenkin <maksim.yevmenkin@gmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: l2ping(8) and -f switch
Message-ID:  <20110328195952.GA26987@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikLj7QumdtPcB=wGBdyxOyHBusCzUbrtXVC%2BYt1@mail.gmail.com>
References:  <20110328001258.GA70156@freebsd.org> <alpine.NEB.2.00.1103280751410.3331@galant.ukfsn.org> <20110328101804.GA39095@freebsd.org> <alpine.NEB.2.00.1103281452520.27263@galant.ukfsn.org> <AANLkTikLj7QumdtPcB=wGBdyxOyHBusCzUbrtXVC%2BYt1@mail.gmail.com>

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On Mon Mar 28 11, Maksim Yevmenkin wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 7:04 AM, Iain Hibbert <plunky@rya-online.net> wrote:
> > On Mon, 28 Mar 2011, Alexander Best wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon Mar 28 11, Iain Hibbert wrote:
> >> > On Mon, 28 Mar 2011, Alexander Best wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > thus i believe making the -f switch only accessable to super-users (in
> >> > > accordance with ping(8)/ping6(8)) would increase security.
> >> >
> >> > what stops the user from recompiling l2ping without this restriction?
> >>
> >> nothing. but what stops him from recompiling ping(8) or ping6(8) without the
> >> restriction? still it's there.
> >
> > AFAIK you need superuser privileges to even send ICMP_ECHO packets, thats
> > why ping is traditionally a suid program and making a new binary won't
> > help normal users..  I'm guessing that l2ping doesn't have the same
> > restrictions?
> 
> Guys,
> 
> first of all thanks for the patch.
> 
> i think one really needs to understand what "flood" really means in
> l2ping(8). "flood" ping(8) basically floods the link with icmp echo
> requests without waiting for remote system to reply. yes, this is
> potentially dangerous and thus its reasonable to require super-user
> privileges. "flood" l2ping(8) is NOT the same. all l2ping(8) does is
> "flood" mode
> 
> 1) sends l2cap echo request
> 2) waits for l2cap echo response (or timeout)
> 3) repeats
> 
> in other words, there is no delay between each l2cap echo
> request-response transaction. its not really "flood". i'm not sure if
> it really worth to go all the way to restricting this. however, if
> people think that it should be restricted, i will not object.

how about removing the term "flood" from the l2ping(2) man page, if the -f
semantics can't actually be called that way?

> 
> thanks,
> max

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a13x



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