From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 24 22:13:27 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C99E1FD920 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2020 22:13:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 484D1L3JdXz4d9R for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2020 22:13:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1579904006; x=1582496006; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=Cb/YE+skXLlMRICyOUrluRPJSiC3NtMon46Cpfi8YII=; b=LoyHSgPSzdhHXrQHEK0rtwUUKWXg7PBNR4e7q6TE039O+Mz8ilCo1/TFv/TKs/NI6kUllLNPnWPIv+miH7p3duVHLp4T3AJySoYN9Cw9E08ntmwbK6Oq3H30s+OocrWKPj7Rbe5ZSro7Bq26Ef9rwcRESxfg3yrbftSG0ZttgrA= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi42ZTAwMDAwMTAyNWZmNy5mcmVlYnNkLXF1ZXN0aW9ucz1mcmVlYnNkLm9yZw== Received: from r1.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r1.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.191.1]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Fri, 24 Jan 2020 17:13:21 -0500 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r1.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Fri, 24 Jan 2020 17:13:21 -0500 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.92.3 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1iv7CZ-000Gbz-QG for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2020 22:13:19 +0000 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2020 22:13:19 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Rust in base Message-Id: <20200124221319.d4e7fa438cbb1f30da10af2d@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <775662956.5865.1579896175788.JavaMail.zimbra@antonovs.family> References: <775662956.5865.1579896175788.JavaMail.zimbra@antonovs.family> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 484D1L3JdXz4d9R X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=LoyHSgPS; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.85 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.987,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; FORGED_SENDER_VERP_SRS(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.998,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; IP_SCORE(0.13)[ip: (-0.35), ipnet: 142.0.176.0/22(0.66), asn: 7381(0.39), country: US(-0.05)]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[198.176.0.142.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.15.0]; ENVFROM_VERP(0.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2020 22:13:27 -0000 On Fri, 24 Jan 2020 20:02:55 +0000 (UTC) Ihor Antonov wrote: > So there are 2 questions: > - technical one: how bootstrapping issue can be solved? > - what does FreeBSD community think of the idea to have Rust in base? Some years back a great deal of work was done to remove perl from the base so adding Rust (or anything else) would be a step back. An old BSD goal is that base should be just enough to be self hosting and be BSD (removing the traditional games from the base took some discussion). -- Steve O'Hara-Smith