Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 22:51:44 +0800 From: Doug Brewer <brewer.doug@gmail.com> To: Chuck Burns <break19@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [head tinderbox] failure on arm/arm Message-ID: <CAG0V13T6-ts3FBR0FrpHANrNczdTEa2VbbU51mPfhvYzn8cn0g@mail.gmail.com>
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Chuck Burns wrote: On 11/9/2012 4:16 PM, Brett wrote: > >> Message: 11 > >> Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 23:34:58 +0800 > >> From: Doug Brewer <brewer.doug@gmail.com> > >> To: Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org> > >> Cc: arm@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Tinderbox <tinderbox@freebsd.org>, > >> current@freebsd.org > >> Subject: Re: [head tinderbox] failure on arm/arm > >> Message-ID: > >> <CAG0V13TpALMdPG-8rifcjjROXZ948mQzjnn1YvqZ4TEyBJz5vQ@mail.gmail.com> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1 > >> > >> No offence, but how many times did you break the build? Could you plea= se > >> compile your code before committing next time? Thanks a lot! > >> > > > > Just an observation: a few years ago when I got sick of Linux's "headlo= ng rush" development model, I subscribed to various BSD mailing lists to se= e what else was out there. I considered FreeBSD at the time - there was a n= everending avalanche of "[head tinderbox] failure" messages. This told me t= hat I would be more likely to be running code written by people who knew wh= at they were doing if I went with Open, Net, or DragonflyBSD. > > > > I safely run OpenBSD-current on my main computer and it always works (I= think I have had 2-3 build problems in about 3 years, and they were all my= fault). At the moment, I only feel confident enough with FreeBSD-current t= o run it on my unimportant torrent computer. This is 80% due to constant bu= ild failures, and 20% due to invasive changes being introduced with documen= tation/instructions scattered over many different pages and mailing lists, = e.g: > > > > http://wiki.freebsd.org/FrontPage?action=3Dfullsearch&context=3D180&val= ue=3Dxorg&titlesearch=3DTitles > > > > http://wiki.freebsd.org/FrontPage?action=3Dfullsearch&context=3D180&val= ue=3Dpkgng&titlesearch=3DTitles > > > > Hypothetical user: "Is it WITHOUT_PKGNG=3D or WITHOUT_PKGNG=3Dyes or WI= TH_PKGNG=3Dno today?" > > > > I wonder how many other people that you never hear from feel the same, = and if some sort of "x weeks commit freezeout" should apply to the build br= eakers. Cute pointy hats or whatever obviously have no effect. > > > > Rant over! > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > > > Quite honestly, the head/current branch is going to have build > failures.. It's the test bed.. YOU'VE GOTTA BE KIDDING ME. > Stick with the release system unless you > want cutting edge.. just remember.. cutting edge cuts sometimes...
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