Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 18:57:10 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org> To: Anthony Atkielski <anthony@freebie.atkielski.com> Cc: FreeBSD Advocacy <freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: FreeBSD on the desktop (was: TheRegister article on Hotmail) Message-ID: <20021123082710.GD39240@wantadilla.lemis.com> In-Reply-To: <01e101c292c8$1aa8cda0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> References: <20021121161453.GA69019_submonkey.net@ns.sol.net> <008501c2917a$ac643080$0a00000a_atkielski.com@ns.sol.net> <200211221502.gAMF2a6a089963@catflap.bishopston.net> <20021122234047.GB60785@wantadilla.lemis.com> <014201c29296$f9cc4a20$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20021123071534.GC39240@wantadilla.lemis.com> <01e101c292c8$1aa8cda0$0a00000a@atkielski.com>
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[artificially shortened lines *again* fixed] On Saturday, 23 November 2002 at 9:12:45 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Greg writes: >> I think you've either misunderstood or misrepresented me. > > I don't recall addressing you specifically at all. Go back and check your message, since you've removed the relevant part from this reply. >> Just positioning the mouse on the correct place is quite difficult. > > A graphics tablet can solve this problem in many cases. Possibly. But that's only one of the reasons, and you ignored the other. > In any case, the problems you describe are common to all GUIs. Agreed. As I went on to say, that's an objection. >> By contrast, I make my slides with groff, and I have a complete >> programming language behind it to help me do exactly what I want. > > By contrast, I make my slides with Quark XPress, and I've never seen > any need for any programming language when preparing documents. Well stated. Most Microsoft users "don't see a need" to do things better. That's amply demonstrated in email which is so badly laid out that you'd think people would be ashamed of it. >> Too often, Microsoft comes across like a child's toy: brightly >> coloured and weak on functionality. > > That's what the market wants. The market doesn't know what it wants. >> IMO the real reason why Microsoft is still used so much is >> becausecomputer users are (still) mainly newbies. When it becomes >> important for them to be able to use computers effectively, more >> and more of them will move on to something more powerful. > > No. The real reason why Microsoft is still used (or at least one of > the reasons) is that most people couldn't care less about computers; > they just want to get their work done. You're not listening, are you? > They do not share your interest in computers for the sake of > computers, and thus do not want anything "more powerful," and do not > care about using computers "more effectively." That's what getting your work done is all about. If I had to use Microsoft Outlook, I wouldn't even get through my mail: it would take me more than a working day to get through it. > They have lives outside of computerland, and so they only use the > computer long enough to finish some straightforward task, and then > they go on to other things. I'm not sure what relevance this statement has. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message
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