Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 19:24:16 -0400 From: Louis LeBlanc <leblanc+freebsd@acadia.ne.mediaone.net> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: just how many known viruses are there for FreeBSD? Message-ID: <20010801192415.O56755@acadia.ne.mediaone.net> In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010801191853.023a1f10@pop.voyager.net> References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010801183730.018f6610@pop.voyager.net> <20010801221246.52013.qmail@web14608.mail.yahoo.com> <5.0.2.1.2.20010801183730.018f6610@pop.voyager.net> <5.0.2.1.2.20010801191853.023a1f10@pop.voyager.net>
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So, why doesn't M$ word run on my FreeBSD machine without an emulator? :) On 08/01/01 07:25 PM, Matthew Hagerty sat at the `puter and typed: > Being written in assembly has nothing to do with what a program can > do! All programs, no matter what language they are written in are either > compiled or interpreted down to "machine language" in order to be executed > by the processor. What do you thing a C compiler is doing? > > As for the virus, it still has to execute, and if it is executed on a UN*X > box without proper permissions to do its destruction, well, it will simply > fail. If the virus is run as "root", then yes, it could very easily > destroy your system. But you don't need a virus to take down a UN*X system > if you have root access, a simple "rm -f * &" from the root partition will > do just fine. > > Matthew > > At 07:01 PM 8/1/2001 -0400, you wrote: > >Not entirely true. A hacker group recently completed the winux virus > >that is capable of infecting both the Linux and Windows OSs. It is a > >proof of concept virus, and IIRC, it is written entirely in assembly - > >meaning that theoretically, it can infect pretty much any ix86 based > >OS. > > > >Search for winux on google - you will get about 2500 hits. Mostly > >hysteria though since the virus isn't terribly destructive - it just > >demonstrates that it _can_ be done. > > > >Lou > > > >On 08/01/01 06:50 PM, Matthew Hagerty sat at the `puter and typed: > > > Patrick, > > > > > > There are not really any "viruses" on UN*X systems, simply due to the > > > nature of how a UN*X system works. It is not like your normal desktop > > > workstation, and there are certainly not (usually) novice users poking > > > around on the box. The security model that UN*X systems are built on > > makes > > > it almost impossible for a program [virus] to do any kind of damage, so > > > people don't waste their time trying to write UN*X viruses and simply > > > concentrate on an easier platform... enter Windows. > > > > > > Viruses for a UN*X system are usually in the form of a human parasite > > known > > > as a "cracker" or "script-kiddie" trying for breach your system and > > install > > > a backdoor. > > > > > > As for convincing your boss, well, if he won't listen and trust his IT > > > people then I would ask him what he hired you for? I suppose you could > > > throw up some names like Yahoo! and say "look, Yahoo! uses > > > FreeBSD..." Windows has its place, but being a high-volume secure web > > > server is *not* one of them. > > > > > > Good luck, > > > Matthew > > > > > > At 03:12 PM 8/1/2001 -0700, Patrick Simon wrote: > > > >To whom it may concern, > > > > > > > >I am wondering (in order to convince my boss) about > > > >the feasibility of using FreeBSD as a webserver > > > >instead of Win2000 running IIS. > > > > > > > >In particular, I was wondering just how many known > > > >viruses there are for FreeBSD. > > > > > > > >Regards, > > > > > > > >Patrick. > > > > > > > >===== > > > >"Some climb up among the rocks." - Jeremiah 4:29 > > > >---------------------------- > > > >Patrick Simon > > > >Employee/Student - QUT > > > >I use this account when email.qut.edu.au is sluggish > > > >Please continue to mail me at patsimon12@cyberdude.com > > > >---------------------------- > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > > > >Do You Yahoo!? > > > >Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger > > > >http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > >-- > >Louis LeBlanc leblanc@acadia.ne.mediaone.net > >Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) > >http://acadia.ne.mediaone.net ԿԬ > > > >Captain's Log, star date 21:34.5... > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > -- Louis LeBlanc leblanc@acadia.ne.mediaone.net Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://acadia.ne.mediaone.net ԿԬ Hawkeye's Conclusion: It's not easy to play the clown when you've got to run the whole circus. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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