From owner-freebsd-git@freebsd.org Mon Sep 23 17:51:53 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-git@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF091FB38E for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2019 17:51:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sean@chittenden.org) Received: from mail-lj1-x22c.google.com (mail-lj1-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::22c]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46cX2J23nkz4J80 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2019 17:51:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sean@chittenden.org) Received: by mail-lj1-x22c.google.com with SMTP id f5so14604734ljg.8 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2019 10:51:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=chittenden.org; s=8eb15515; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=8AX0YsfyauvaMPISoppKM4GMzlVIrPX4XRrIKt/kICc=; b=rF0gwb5iJhi3eJac0hAG1KefriMSPAOscJfLbR1O9EUjqKo/6nU6fTvJ5Ne5JqsAmb UlI4H2Xc7d518SJRWNCOrYRSEMJwXdw0EScdhIDKFhCyXrzMp672TGrmOeOUmPxpScN6 ZXp1WHpBpl97o2mrFE598pfcU/sfdq4G5nNkWBnuU+OVz39UpYzCrA46etaXmXHJL+qI 7BV+nlxdTCjuqOvSEDojmNr+vn1uKEsoQ62EcfkFbDAjgWT7D+ndgSbq53PixuP1XLyh oguUKWYWBKQQdNUQDorXK32+CJ5rhBZ42XX5zIEEZksMam7opeUGI644GE3tir+ONeP4 gvIg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=8AX0YsfyauvaMPISoppKM4GMzlVIrPX4XRrIKt/kICc=; b=LlUw/NmMmCwqmfXCdwM2rXXduLM21+KekOWL+BcVIAD0fumX51uuSPA52kalOlu/HC s5xxnynxsyXrpHYR9QMV4aH/8r5gecdE2EMhUlkb3W3vdbnLhGnx3RXfwoHugDvcJUAZ Jjo2JWSG2yZSRKxVlOP+iL6QLEWGeL/3SdYvYi0BHzo50gDefKnLAy059We3Vp5ULKqt +zkOGFHZ+jrn4N0qMnmA5vFIPlh2p0X8l92YyCwWH2DtQoAyr/Qnlb+VDq/8fFCjRckm nh662qWOoakKN7Uch8ycM0OlaC0M03Vts1Ak1C4lOUanPTmW026d77dTwRYxz6R1Sp+D xyVA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWQA0spw5h4UKZkrivpASf6ifeyvZAWR9T/MDY7cXCm+6hGU+fS uP7Ks94xmf9UtgZkrv7Is98vflS1Dy2j5PqAGgxmPdqx X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzBR/ewXWw77jhuy8tYreoSfJFBh/PG0S//2pO5lFXYIGlEbSGQ4K+rZfQISJoLf4Naxh/eg+gfNJdAp0mPGR8= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:1614:: with SMTP id w20mr342972ljd.159.1569261109753; Mon, 23 Sep 2019 10:51:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Sean Chittenden Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2019 10:51:33 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Service disruption: git converter currently down To: =?UTF-8?Q?Ulrich_Sp=C3=B6rlein?= Cc: freebsd-git@freebsd.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46cX2J23nkz4J80 X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=chittenden.org header.s=8eb15515 header.b=rF0gwb5i; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=chittenden.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of sean@chittenden.org designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::22c as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=sean@chittenden.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.93 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[chittenden.org:s=8eb15515]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-git@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[chittenden.org:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[c.2.2.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[chittenden.org,none]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; IP_SCORE(-2.93)[ip: (-9.47), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.92), asn: 15169(-2.20), country: US(-0.05)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-git@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of git use in the FreeBSD project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2019 17:51:54 -0000 > > Please note however, that more "garbage" metadata escaped from SVN into > github, meaning 3rd parties have a hard time re-running the conversion and > making sure that it matches SVN down to the metadata (i.e. timestamps). > > Eventually, this will have to be re-rolled and a new "master" branch will > be force-pushed into github. There's no timeline for this yet. > Wait, what? Can you elaborate? Discussion of a force-push to github has occurred a few times and been explicitly ruled out because most of our corporate citizens use github to integrate changes from FreeBSD. Rerolling master was universally rejected when we socialized wanting to do this due to the level of disruption this would cause. The feedback was that this would be a high-cost, low-value operation. In the tradeoffs of purity vs pragmatism, pragmatism wins every time (that is the FreeBSD way). -sc