From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 0:10:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C752937B401; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 00:10:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org (nezlok.unixathome.org [216.187.87.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CDEB43EE1; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 00:10:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@nezlok.unixathome.org) Received: by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5F1BBAE468; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 00:10:02 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2002-11-10 - 2002-11-30 Message-Id: <20021201081002.5F1BBAE468@nezlok.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 00:10:02 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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These are the articles posted during this period: 13-Nov : CUPS (Common UNIX Printing System) - installation and configuration A portable printing layer for UNIX-based operating systems http://freebsddiary.org/cups.php?2 -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.FreeBSDDiary.org/ - practical examples FreshPorts - http://www.FreshPorts.org/ - the place for ports FreshSource - http://www.FreshSource.org/ - the place for source To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 0:21:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7EC837B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 00:21:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from lmtp1.absolight.com (lmtp1.absolight.com [212.43.217.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4930A43E4A for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 00:21:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mat@mat.cc) Received: from cmantatzi.in.t-online.fr (cmantatzi.in.t-online.fr [213.44.126.228]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by lmtp1.absolight.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B90EB29E8; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 09:21:38 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 09:21:45 +0100 From: Mathieu Arnold To: "Marc G. Fournier" , freebsd-questions@freeBSD.org Subject: Re: List of big names ... Message-ID: <53747796.1038734505@cmantatzi.in.t-online.fr> In-Reply-To: <20021201023429.G6214-100000@hub.org> References: <20021201023429.G6214-100000@hub.org> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.0 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --En cette belle journ=E9e de dimanche 1 d=E9cembre 2002 02:57 -0400, -- Marc G. Fournier =E9crivait avec ses petits doigts : >=20 > Other then that I know Yahoo! uses FreeBSD ... is there a list that anyone > is maintain about who is using it? I've been having discussions with a > partner for awhile now about whether we should launch a product with a > base OS of linux vs freebsd ... and its tiring to try and argue against > "but, nobody is accepting FreeBSD ... everyone (IBM, HP, Sun, etc) is > falling behind Linux" ... >=20 > Do we have *anything* ... case studies or the like, from big names that > have decided *for* FreeBSD over Linux, with a sort of 'why' discusion? there is this page : http://www.freebsd.org/gallery/cgallery.html --=20 Mathieu Arnold To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 0:53:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E67A237B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 00:53:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from www.technaholics.com (12-218-133-12.client.mchsi.com [12.218.133.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F128543E9C for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 00:53:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chadalbert@mchsi.com) Received: from SPGCALBERTA ([10.15.1.51]) by www.technaholics.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gB18rf417690 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 02:53:42 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from chadalbert@mchsi.com) Message-ID: <005701c29917$25f70b40$33010f0a@hboc.com> From: "Chad Albert" To: References: <20021201023429.G6214-100000@hub.org> <53747796.1038734505@cmantatzi.in.t-online.fr> Subject: Re: List of big names ... Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 02:53:40 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG For Web servers, netcraft can help you out too. In particular, their "longest uptime on the internet" page may be of particular interest if you are pro FreeBSD. http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/today/top.avg.html No really, you see Linux on the list every once in a while ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mathieu Arnold" To: "Marc G. Fournier" ; Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 2:21 AM Subject: Re: List of big names ... --En cette belle journée de dimanche 1 décembre 2002 02:57 -0400, -- Marc G. Fournier écrivait avec ses petits doigts : > > Other then that I know Yahoo! uses FreeBSD ... is there a list that anyone > is maintain about who is using it? I've been having discussions with a > partner for awhile now about whether we should launch a product with a > base OS of linux vs freebsd ... and its tiring to try and argue against > "but, nobody is accepting FreeBSD ... everyone (IBM, HP, Sun, etc) is > falling behind Linux" ... > > Do we have *anything* ... case studies or the like, from big names that > have decided *for* FreeBSD over Linux, with a sort of 'why' discusion? there is this page : http://www.freebsd.org/gallery/cgallery.html -- Mathieu Arnold To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 1: 7:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75EB737B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 01:07:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from awww.jeah.net (awww.jeah.net [216.111.239.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0AAC43EB2 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 01:07:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from doot@awww.jeah.net) Received: from awww.jeah.net (doot@localhost.jeah.net [127.0.0.1]) by awww.jeah.net (8.12.6/8.12.2) with ESMTP id gB196thC019211 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 03:06:55 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from doot@awww.jeah.net) Received: from localhost (doot@localhost) by awww.jeah.net (8.12.6/8.12.2/Submit) with ESMTP id gB196s9U019208 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 03:06:55 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 03:06:53 -0600 (CST) From: Jonathan James To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Lsof && Netstat Message-ID: <20021201030403.H18992-100000@awww.jeah.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am attempting to use netstat to gain the current amount of bandwidth used by a user. I have devised a way to use lsof to find the IP addresses assigned per each user process and add the bandwidth up in netstat, but if more than 1 user is using that IP address they will all be noted for the bandwidth usage report. Is there any software out there that will return to console values of each individual user's bandwidth consumption? Thanks all! ---------------Jonathan James---------------- ----------Acrilic.net Systems Admin.--------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 1:13:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A23837B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 01:13:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from the-frontier.org (ns1.the-frontier.org [216.86.199.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E919C43E4A for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 01:13:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pscott@skycoast.us) Received: from [192.168.66.249] (dhcp-249-66-168-192.the-frontier.org [192.168.66.249]) by the-frontier.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA40243; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 01:12:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pscott@skycoast.us) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 01:12:46 -0800 Subject: Re: List of big names ... From: "Paul A. Scott" To: Terry Lambert , "Marc G. Fournier" Cc: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3DE9BFBC.896E74F0@mindspring.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > From: Terry Lambert > IBM bought Whistle Communications for it's product based on > FreeBSD; can you name a company that IBM bought that had a > product based on Linux? Unfortunately, IBM seems to have closed the door on Whistle. And, IBM is pushing Linux on their Z-series mainframes. Paul -- Paul A. Scott mailto:pscott@skycoast.us http://skycoast.us/pscott/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 2:33:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B782C37B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 02:33:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from postfix3-2.free.fr (postfix3-2.free.fr [213.228.0.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D412243EAF for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 02:33:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eric.cresson@free.fr) Received: from free.fr (lille-4-a7-62-147-105-189.dial.proxad.net [62.147.105.189]) by postfix3-2.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1686F17ED9 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 11:33:01 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <3DE9E586.5040802@free.fr> Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 11:33:42 +0100 From: Eric Cresson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; WinNT4.0; fr-FR; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: fr, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Make depend error Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060004040801030000050808" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060004040801030000050808 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I tried to compile a new kernel. The "make depend" compile with error messages. Can you help me ? I attach the kernel config file and sysout file. Thank you --------------060004040801030000050808 Content-Type: text/plain; name="Kernfw" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Kernfw" # # GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/i386 # # For more information on this file, please read the handbook section on # Kernel Configuration Files: # # http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html # # The handbook is also available locally in /usr/share/doc/handbook # if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see the # FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.org/) for the # latest information. # # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the # device lines is also present in the ./LINT configuration file. If you are # in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first in LINT. # # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.246.2.48 2002/08/31 20:28:26 obrien Exp $ machine i386 #cpu I386_CPU #cpu I486_CPU cpu I586_CPU #cpu I686_CPU ident GENERIC maxusers 0 #makeoptions DEBUG=-g #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols #options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation options INET #InterNETworking options INET6 #IPv6 communications protocols options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support options UFS_DIRHASH #Improve performance on big directories options MFS #Memory Filesystem options MD_ROOT #MD is a potential root device #options NFS #Network Filesystem #options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, NFS required #options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem #options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem #options CD9660_ROOT #CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required options PROCFS #Process filesystem options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] #options SCSI_DELAY=15000 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor options KTRACE #ktrace(1) support options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING options ICMP_BANDLIM #Rate limit bad replies options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev options AHC_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug # output. Adds ~128k to driver. options AHD_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug # output. Adds ~215k to driver. # To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed #options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel #options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O device isa device eisa device pci # Floppy drives device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2 device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 #device fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 # # If you have a Toshiba Libretto with its Y-E Data PCMCIA floppy, # don't use the above line for fdc0 but the following one: #device fdc0 # ATA and ATAPI devices device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14 device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15 device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives device atapist # ATAPI tape drives options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1 device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12 device vga0 at isa? # splash screen/screen saver pseudo-device splash # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? flags 0x100 # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver #device vt0 at isa? #options XSERVER # support for X server on a vt console #options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT lines #options PCVT_SCANSET=2 # IBM keyboards are non-std # Floating point support - do not disable. device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13 # Power management support (see LINT for more options) device apm0 at nexus? disable flags 0x20 # Advanced Power Management # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support device card device pcic0 at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000 device pcic1 at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e2 iomem 0xd4000 disable # Serial (COM) ports device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3 #device sio2 at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5 #device sio3 at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9 # Parallel port device ppc0 at isa? irq 7 device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) device lpt # Printer device plip # TCP/IP over parallel device ppi # Parallel port interface device #device vpo # Requires scbus and da # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code. device miibus # MII bus support device xl # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'') # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocate. pseudo-device loop # Network loopback pseudo-device ether # Ethernet support #pseudo-device sl 1 # Kernel SLIP pseudo-device ppp 1 # Kernel PPP pseudo-device tun # Packet tunnel. pseudo-device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) pseudo-device md # Memory "disks" pseudo-device gif # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling pseudo-device faith 1 # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation) # The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this! pseudo-device bpf #Berkeley packet filter --------------060004040801030000050808 Content-Type: text/plain; name="sysout.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="sysout.txt" SERVER# /usr/sbin/config KERNFW Don't forget to do a ``make depend'' Kernel build directory is ../../compile/KERNFW SERVER# cd ../../compile/KERNFW SERVER# make depend cc -c -O -pipe -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I/usr/include -I../../contrib/ipfilter -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 ../../i386/i386/genassym.c sh ../../kern/genassym.sh genassym.o > assym.s rm -f .newdep make -V CFILES -V SYSTEM_CFILES -V GEN_CFILES | xargs mkdep -a -f .newdep -O -pipe -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I/usr/include -I../../contrib/ipfilter -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 ../../net/if_mib.c:147: unterminated macro call ../../net/if_mib.c:148: unterminated string or character constant ../../net/if_mib.c:1: possible real start of unterminated constant ../../net/if_mib.c:148: macro `SYSCTL_OID' used with too many (3603) args mkdep: compile failed *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/KERNFW. --------------060004040801030000050808-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 2:36: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1219B37B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 02:36:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net (scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.49]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AF9943EC2 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 02:35:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0061.cvx22-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.198.61] helo=mindspring.com) by scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18IRRv-0000Mf-00; Sun, 01 Dec 2002 02:35:43 -0800 Message-ID: <3DE9E5AE.1FE00C7F@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 02:34:22 -0800 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Paul A. Scott" Cc: "Marc G. Fournier" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: List of big names ... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Paul A. Scott" wrote: > > From: Terry Lambert > > > IBM bought Whistle Communications for it's product based on > > FreeBSD; can you name a company that IBM bought that had a > > product based on Linux? > > Unfortunately, IBM seems to have closed the door on Whistle. Whistle was a time-to-market acquisition. They bought it, instead of an distributing an internal Almaden project that used Linux, which could not be distributed with Linux because of the GPL (doing so would have granted source code usage under the GPL, which then grants, in perpetuity, the rights to use of IBM software patents -- we had to rip SQUID out of the InterJet II before it was first released, because of IBM patents). > And, IBM is pushing Linux on their Z-series mainframes. Not actually. They are pushing Z-series mainframes to Linux propeller-heads, which is very different, even though on the surface, it appears to be the same thing to someone who isn't looking very deep. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 3:16:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D428037B404 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 03:16:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.liwing.de (mail.liwing.de [213.70.188.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0A9443EBE for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 03:16:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rehsack@liwing.de) Received: (qmail 18127 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2002 11:15:54 -0000 Received: from stingray.liwing.de (HELO liwing.de) ([213.70.188.164]) (envelope-sender ) by mail.liwing.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 1 Dec 2002 11:15:54 -0000 Message-ID: <3DE9EF75.1040108@liwing.de> Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 12:16:05 +0100 From: Jens Rehsack Organization: LiWing IT-Services User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Laurence Sanford Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Phoenix .04 port build problem. References: <20021130082515.42a543a9.lauasanf@wilderness.dyn.dhs.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Laurence Sanford wrote: > When I try to build the phoenix 0.4 port it fails like this: > ===> Building for Xft-2.0_1 > cc -O -pipe -I. -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I/usr/X11R6/include > -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include > -fPIC -DPIC -c xftrender.c -o xftrender.o > xftrender.c: In function `XftGlyphSpecRender': > xftrender.c:170: `XGlyphElt8' undeclared (first use in this function) > xftrender.c:170: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > xftrender.c:170: for each function it appears in.) > xftrender.c:170: `elts' undeclared (first use in this function) > xftrender.c:171: syntax error before `elts_local' > xftrender.c:186: `glyphs_loaded' undeclared (first use in this function) > xftrender.c:234: `nelt' undeclared (first use in this function) > xftrender.c:247: `x' undeclared (first use in this function) > xftrender.c:248: `y' undeclared (first use in this function) > xftrender.c:272: `elts_local' undeclared (first use in this function) > xftrender.c:335: `XGlyphElt16' undeclared (first use in this function) > xftrender.c:335: syntax error before `)' > xftrender.c:340: `XGlyphElt32' undeclared (first use in this function) > xftrender.c:340: syntax error before `)' > xftrender.c: In function `XftGlyphFontSpecRender': > xftrender.c:414: `XGlyphElt8' undeclared (first use in this function) > xftrender.c:414: `elts' undeclared (first use in this function) > xftrender.c:415: syntax error before `elts_local' > xftrender.c:428: `glyphs_loaded' undeclared (first use in this function) > xftrender.c:480: `nelt' undeclared (first use in this function) > xftrender.c:499: `x' undeclared (first use in this function) > xftrender.c:500: `y' undeclared (first use in this function) > xftrender.c:528: `elts_local' undeclared (first use in this function) > xftrender.c:596: `XGlyphElt16' undeclared (first use in this function) > xftrender.c:596: syntax error before `)' > xftrender.c:601: `XGlyphElt32' undeclared (first use in this function) > xftrender.c:601: syntax error before `)' > gmake: *** [xftrender.o] Error 1 > *** Error code 2 > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/Xft. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/www/phoenix. > > I seem to remember something like this going on early in the mozilla > development as well ( I could be daffy ) but I can't remember what the > fix was (seemed like it was really simple too). I was wondering if > anyone could refresh my memory. Thanks in advance for the assistance. > > For the record: > FreeBSD colossus.cotharyus.net 4.5-STABLE FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE #1: Mon Mar > 11 15:50:03 CST 2002 > lauasanf@colossus.cotharyus.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/Colossus i386 > 1st) Maybe you should read the instructions from the Makefile. Bug report should be send to (and only to) phoenix@freebsd.org. Of course, you can CC the ports@ or questions@freebsd.org list, but this would be for informational purpose only. 2nd) Do you have the current port (0.4_8) or do you use an older one? My 0.4_8 builds fine. You should append a pkg_info output and the port version. Jens -- L i W W W i Jens Rehsack L W W W L i W W W W i nnn gggg LiWing IT-Services L i W W W W i n n g g LLLL i W W i n n g g Friesenstraße 2 gggg 06112 Halle g g g Tel.: +49 - 3 45 - 5 17 05 91 ggg e-Mail: Fax: +49 - 3 45 - 5 17 05 92 http://www.liwing.de/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 3:30: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 293AF37B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 03:30:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4C6443EAF for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 03:29:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gB1BTOOR053778 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 11:29:24 GMT (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost) by happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gB1BTJM9053777 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 11:29:19 GMT Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 11:29:19 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: List of big names ... Message-ID: <20021201112919.GB52934@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophi> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20021201023429.G6214-100000@hub.org> <53747796.1038734505@cmantatzi.in.t-online.fr> <005701c29917$25f70b40$33010f0a@hboc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <005701c29917$25f70b40$33010f0a@hboc.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_03_05, SUBJECT_IS_LIST,USER_AGENT,USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.43 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Dec 01, 2002 at 02:53:40AM -0600, Chad Albert wrote: > For Web servers, netcraft can help you out too. In particular, their > "longest uptime on the internet" page may be of particular interest if you > are pro FreeBSD. > http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/today/top.avg.html > No really, you see Linux on the list every once in a while ;-) One thing I haven't seen enough mention made of in this context are a few interesting sites running FreeBSD. Let's see: everyone here should know about Yahoo.com by now... Then there's apache.org: http://www.netcraft.com/Survey/Reports/200211/developers/apache.html Netcraft themselves: http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.netcraft.com Lets see: that's the biggest site on the Internet (or so I hear --- certainly it's in the top ten), the people who make the world's most popular HTTP server software and the people whose business it is to know just about everything there is to know about web serving. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 3:37:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CD8C37B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 03:37:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from ws1-8.us4.outblaze.com (205-158-62-59.outblaze.com [205.158.62.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 72CD843E88 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 03:37:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from reko@dr.com) Received: (qmail 73180 invoked by uid 1001); 1 Dec 2002 11:37:32 -0000 Message-ID: <20021201113732.73179.qmail@mail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Received: from [62.139.107.140] by ws1-8.us4.outblaze.com with http for reko@dr.com; Sun, 01 Dec 2002 06:37:32 -0500 From: "reko saad" To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 06:37:32 -0500 Subject: media help X-Originating-Ip: 62.139.107.140 X-Originating-Server: ws1-8.us4.outblaze.com Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello I am hesham I had a problem after i installed Freebsd 4.6 the system is not working properly 1-as when i typed :. cd /usr/ports/irc/bnc make install the system displayed :. Bnc is not in a direvtory /usr/ports/irc Trying to get from ftp http://(site) so I want it not to turn to ftp but to turn to cdrom 2- I want to know how to mount my cdrom 3- I want to know how to connect my system to internet by modem then by lan Thanks please reply soon -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup One click access to the Top Search Engines http://www.exactsearchbar.com/mailcom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 3:41: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A1EA37B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 03:41:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp010.tiscali.dk (smtp010.tiscali.dk [212.54.64.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43F1343EB2 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 03:41:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dslb@tiscali.dk) Received: from cpmail.dk.tiscali.com ([212.54.64.52]) by smtp010.tiscali.dk (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB1Bexoi010402 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 12:41:00 +0100 (MET) Received: from [213.237.112.252] by cpmail.dk.tiscali.com with HTTP; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 12:40:57 +0100 Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 12:40:57 +0100 Message-ID: <3D9FE7F600007F39@cpfe5.be.tisc.dk> From: dslb@tiscali.dk Subject: Re: login.conf problem To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2002.12.01 00:57 Matthew Seaman wrote: > > Sadly there is no easy way to drop ressource limits or is there? I > know > > you can use setrlimit(), but you would have to fill in all fields > and thereby > > not using the admins login.conf setup. > > See login_class(3) and login_cap(3). Ok, thanks :-) br socketd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 3:51: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA5437B404 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 03:51:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from shockwave.systems.pipex.net (shockwave.systems.pipex.net [62.241.160.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E79C743ECF for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 03:51:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stacey@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from [192.168.1.8] (81-86-129-77.dsl.pipex.com [81.86.129.77]) by shockwave.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 363C81600B787; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 11:50:57 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: List of big names ... From: Stacey Roberts Reply-To: stacey@vickiandstacey.com To: Matthew Seaman Cc: FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: <20021201112919.GB52934@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophi> References: <20021201023429.G6214-100000@hub.org> <53747796.1038734505@cmantatzi.in.t-online.fr> <005701c29917$25f70b40$33010f0a@hboc.com> <20021201112919.GB52934@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophi> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1038743467.61892.39.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.0 Date: 01 Dec 2002 11:51:08 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Not to mention a few others like:- Hotmail ClaraNET Playboy Sony UUNET To name a few. I came in late on this, but thought it worth mentioning the above, just in case they got neglected. Regards, Stacey On Sun, 2002-12-01 at 11:29, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On Sun, Dec 01, 2002 at 02:53:40AM -0600, Chad Albert wrote: > > For Web servers, netcraft can help you out too. In particular, their > > "longest uptime on the internet" page may be of particular interest if you > > are pro FreeBSD. > > http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/today/top.avg.html > > No really, you see Linux on the list every once in a while ;-) > > One thing I haven't seen enough mention made of in this context are a > few interesting sites running FreeBSD. Let's see: everyone here > should know about Yahoo.com by now... > > Then there's apache.org: > > http://www.netcraft.com/Survey/Reports/200211/developers/apache.html > > Netcraft themselves: > > http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.netcraft.com > > Lets see: that's the biggest site on the Internet (or so I hear --- > certainly it's in the top ten), the people who make the world's most > popular HTTP server software and the people whose business it is to know > just about everything there is to know about web serving. > > Cheers, > > Matthew -- Stacey Roberts B.Sc (HONS) Computer Science Web: www.vickiandstacey.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 4:41: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BA0A37B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 04:41:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from shipka.solar.com.br (shipka.solar.com.br [200.199.212.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 787E643EBE for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 04:40:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bbrummer@solar.com.br) Received: (qmail 902 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2002 10:40:47 -0200 Received: from 200-181-94-124-bsace7011.dsl.telebrasilia.net.br (HELO compaq) (200.181.94.124) by shipka.solar.com.br with SMTP; 1 Dec 2002 10:40:47 -0200 Reply-To: From: "Bernardo M. Brummer" To: Subject: OS X root passwd Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 10:40:37 -0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I was asked to help out (remotly) with Mac OS X. As I asked for the root passwd, the user (former Win, complete newbie with Mac, very basic computer user) told that he didn´t know and that he had never asigned any password (user or root) at all. Tried to su without password (just pressing Enter), but systems wants password. Is there a default (preconfigured) root passwd for new Mac OS X machines , or any simple (that can be executed remotely or that this user could manage to follow on phone instructions) way to assign a new one ?. Bernardo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 4:47:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24E3F37B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 04:47:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A45A43E4A for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 04:47:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.no-ip.com) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (lowellg.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.147.188.198]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51) with ESMTP id <2002120112473505100fjth6e>; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 12:47:35 +0000 Received: from be-well.ilk.org (lowellg.ne.client2.attbi.com [24.147.188.198] (may be forged)) by be-well.ilk.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gB1ClY7v001559; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 07:47:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.no-ip.com) Received: (from lowell@localhost) by be-well.ilk.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gB1ClY8b001556; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 07:47:34 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: be-well.ilk.org: lowell set sender to freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org using -f To: Mark Cc: Subject: Re: Memory test? References: <200211291228.GATCSZI18555@asarian-host.net> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 01 Dec 2002 07:47:33 -0500 In-Reply-To: <200211291228.GATCSZI18555@asarian-host.net> Message-ID: <44vg2dq522.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 15 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mark writes: > I just did a makeshift memory stress test on a new machine; that is, I did a > "make buildworld". Regrettably, it failed, saying it had a sytax error > somewhere. :( > > So, I ran it again; and this time it went fine; then I reinstalled FreeBSD > 4.7 altogether, and rebuilt world again. And, again, no problems. > > This is a bit worrysome. Does FreeBSD even notice bad memory? Would the > kernel put a message in /var/log/messages? It did not show anything there > when buildworld failed. I'm not sure what you're getting at. You've seen just one failure, and it is of a type that is highly unlikely to be memory-related. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 4:51: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFC4037B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 04:50:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C711243E88 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 04:50:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.no-ip.com) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (lowellg.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.147.188.198]) by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02) with ESMTP id <2002120112505700200soaele>; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 12:50:57 +0000 Received: from be-well.ilk.org (lowellg.ne.client2.attbi.com [24.147.188.198] (may be forged)) by be-well.ilk.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gB1Cou7v001568; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 07:50:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.no-ip.com) Received: (from lowell@localhost) by be-well.ilk.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gB1CounT001565; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 07:50:56 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: be-well.ilk.org: lowell set sender to freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org using -f To: James Grant Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: modifying advertised window size. References: <200211301634.51428.jamesg@xtra.co.nz> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 01 Dec 2002 07:50:56 -0500 In-Reply-To: <200211301634.51428.jamesg@xtra.co.nz> Message-ID: <44r8d1q4wf.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 17 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG James Grant writes: > I want to modify my advertised window size so that I get better interactive > performance on my modem whilst downloading for example. > > I've tried using the route options "-lockrest -sendpipe 4096 -recvpipe 4096 > -mtu 576" for example. Then I do a do "route " and all the options are > there like they should be. > > Then I start a session with that host, but when you look at tcpdump's output, > it's still using the ones in the sysctl, net.inet.tcp.recvspace and > net.inet.tcp.sendspace. It feels like it too, it saturates the whole > connection. > > Any ideas how I can make it use different window sizes for different routes? What you really want to do (in my opinion) is reduce the link MTU... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 4:51:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7268737B40B for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 04:51:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 478D943EE5 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 04:51:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-b204.otenet.gr [212.205.244.212]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gB1Cp0Ra022582 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 14:51:02 +0200 (EET) Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gB1Cp0fR009675 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 14:51:00 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gB1CkvQC009496; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 14:46:57 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 14:46:57 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Eric Cresson Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Make depend error Message-ID: <20021201124657.GC8520@gothmog.gr> References: <3DE9E586.5040802@free.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DE9E586.5040802@free.fr> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2002-12-01 11:33, Eric Cresson wrote: > I tried to compile a new kernel. The "make depend" compile with > error messages. Can you help me ? > > I attach the kernel config file and sysout file. Nice :) The kernel configuration seems ok. Although I'd probably rename it to something different, since it's not the same as revision 1.246.2.48 of GENERIC anymore. Some stuff has been commented out from the original stuff that a GENERIC kernel includes. > # > # GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/i386 > [...] > # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.246.2.48 2002/08/31 20:28:26 obrien Exp $ > SERVER# /usr/sbin/config KERNFW > Don't forget to do a ``make depend'' > Kernel build directory is ../../compile/KERNFW > SERVER# cd ../../compile/KERNFW > SERVER# make depend > cc -c -O -pipe -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I/usr/include -I../../contrib/ipfilter -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 ../../i386/i386/genassym.c > sh ../../kern/genassym.sh genassym.o > assym.s > rm -f .newdep > make -V CFILES -V SYSTEM_CFILES -V GEN_CFILES | xargs mkdep -a -f .newdep -O -pipe -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I/usr/include -I../../contrib/ipfilter -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 > ../../net/if_mib.c:147: unterminated macro call > ../../net/if_mib.c:148: unterminated string or character constant > ../../net/if_mib.c:1: possible real start of unterminated constant > ../../net/if_mib.c:148: macro `SYSCTL_OID' used with too many (3603) args > mkdep: compile failed > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/KERNFW. Hmmm, have you CVSup'ed recently? If yes, did it finish correctly? What revision does the following print: # ident /usr/src/sys/net/if_mib.c - Giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 4:54:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2D8037B401; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 04:54:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.libertysurf.net (mail.libertysurf.net [213.36.80.91]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 043EE43EBE; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 04:54:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from groudier@free.fr) Received: from [192.168.1.129] (212.232.50.94) by mail.libertysurf.net (6.5.026) id 3DD89CB9003D5CDE; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 13:54:10 +0100 Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 14:54:25 +0100 (CET) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=E9rard_Roudier?= X-X-Sender: groudier@localhost.my.domain To: Peter Much Cc: freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG, , Subject: Re: Getting SCSI Scanner to work (with Symbios 53c810a and FreeBSD 4.4) In-Reply-To: <200212010221.gB12LZk02947@disp.oper.dinoex.org> Message-ID: <20021201142316.K2519-100000@localhost.my.domain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 1 Dec 2002, Peter Much wrote: > Keywords: FreeBSD SANE Scanner Mustek SCSI MFS-6000CX synchronous disable= Symbios 53c810a > > Just for the records, or: to whom it may concern. > > This is what I had to do to get a scsi scanner to work. I post it > here so others having a similar problem may get inspired. > > I got some Mustek MFS-6000CX. The SANE docs say this scanner > will not run synchronous scsi transfers and will not disconnect/ > reconnect. Such simplistic SCSI devices always surprise me a lot. :) > The Qlogic 1020 controller does not detect it, but instead it will > hang infinitely at biosboot. > > The WD7000 controller will detect it, but either it does not report > it to the host, or the FreeBSD driver does not recognize it. I did > not check this further, as this ISA controller is rather outdated > (although it likely might be good enough for a scanner). And seem to have surprised other SCSI people too. :) > The Symbios 53c810a will detect the scanner at biosboot as an > asynchronous scsi device, and also FreeBSD detects it as devicetype > "Scanner" when looking for devices. But it is not possible > to send any scsi command (like tur, inquiry, etc.) to the scanner; > none will be answered. > > Modifying parameters with "camcontrol negotiate" does not help. > > The scanner will be lost at "camcontrol rescan" and will never be > detected again until system reboot. > > Each time a scsi command is issued to the scanner, there will be > no answer, but a kernel error message is logged: > > /kernel: (probe5:sym0:0:6:0): phase change 6-7 6@07c5bf8c resid=3D5. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > I investigated the source of the Symbios driver and found out: > It is not possible to switch off synchronous transfer negotiation > for a device. There is a variable named "period" in the source, > and it is set to 25, and it has to do something with synchronous > transfer. Indeed it has to do. This value is set for USER SETTINGS. As your controller hasn't NVRAM, the driver sets it to the capability of the controller. The driver doesn't try to negotiate by itself but wait either for a negotiation from the device, or for CAM to say that transfer settings must be changed. If your device reports its uncapabilities ;) to CAM correctly by the INQUIRY response, CAM should tell the driver that transfer settings are sync_period=3D0 and sync_offset=3D0. If you can display the INQUIRY data of the device, we could check at least that the device didn't confuse CAM by reporting features it doesn't want to support. Anyway, the sym driver code let me think that it will not behave correctly in such situation. The issue is that the driver will scale the new transfer setting values against controller capabilities without considering that period=3D0 means asynchronous, and thus fall back to 25. You may try this tiny patch. Even if there is a couple of other places where the equivalent change has to be done, this one-liner has chance to also make the driver work with your scanner. You may let me know. --- sym_hipd.c.orig=09Sun Dec 2 20:01:10 2001 +++ sym_hipd.c=09Sun Dec 1 14:42:44 2002 @@ -8791,7 +8791,7 @@ =09=09=09tip->offset =3D np->maxoffs_dt; =09} =09else { -=09=09if (tip->period < np->minsync) +=09=09if (tip->period !=3D 0 && tip->period < np->minsync) =09=09=09tip->period =3D np->minsync; =09=09if (tip->period > np->maxsync) =09=09=09tip->period =3D np->maxsync; ------------- CUT HERE --------------- Thanks for your report. G=E9rard. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 4:55:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4EDA37B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 04:55:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from pursued-with.net (adsl-66-125-9-242.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net [66.125.9.242]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6712543E9C for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 04:55:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Kevin_Stevens@pursued-with.net) Received: from pursued-with.net (fffinch [192.168.168.101]) by pursued-with.net (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB1CtQAF036981; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 04:55:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Kevin_Stevens@pursued-with.net) Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 04:55:25 -0800 Subject: Re: OS X root passwd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v548) Cc: To: From: Kevin Stevens In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <28F8B736-052C-11D7-BA5D-003065715DA8@pursued-with.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.548) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday, Dec 1, 2002, at 04:40 US/Pacific, Bernardo M. Brummer wrote: > Tried to su without password (just pressing Enter), but systems wants > password. > Is there a default (preconfigured) root passwd for new Mac OS X > machines , > or any simple (that can be executed remotely or that this user could > manage > to follow on phone instructions) way to assign a new one ?. > > Bernardo The root account isn't enabled by default. Run Netinfo Manager, located in Applications/Utilities Under the Security menu, select Authenticate, and give a current administrator name/password (his, if it's the only account on the box). Select Enable Root User, then Change Root Password and set it. Close Netinfo Manager. Now you should be able to use sudo. KeS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 5:20:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22CCA37B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 05:20:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from gs166.sp.cs.cmu.edu (GS166.SP.CS.CMU.EDU [128.2.205.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A270C43EBE for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 05:20:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dpelleg@gs166.sp.cs.cmu.edu) To: reko saad Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: media help References: <20021201113732.73179.qmail@mail.com> From: Dan Pelleg Date: 01 Dec 2002 08:19:24 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20021201113732.73179.qmail@mail.com> Message-ID: Lines: 28 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "reko saad" writes: > Hello > I am hesham > I had a problem after i installed Freebsd 4.6 the system is not working properly 1-as when i typed :. > cd /usr/ports/irc/bnc > make install > the system displayed :. > Bnc is not in a direvtory /usr/ports/irc > Trying to get from ftp http://(site) > so > I want it not to turn to ftp but to turn to cdrom > 2- I want to know how to mount my cdrom Does "mount /cdrom" work for you? > 3- I want to know how to connect my system to internet by modem then by lan > Thanks please reply soon Dialup is covered in chapter 18 of the handbook. I recommend "user PPP". Networking, in section 6.6 (as well as chapter 19). The handbook is at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html -- Dan Pelleg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 5:32:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9778B37B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 05:32:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from vcable.net (vcable.net [62.73.72.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06F7343EBE for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 05:32:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blabla@vcable.net) Received: from localhost (vcable.net [62.73.72.6]) by vcable.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with SMTP id gB1Da9rG028316; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 15:36:10 +0200 (EET) From: blabla@vcable.net Message-Id: <200212011336.gB1Da9rG028316@vcable.net> To: Subject: courier-imap troubleshoting Cc: Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 15:36:09 EET Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Originating-Ip: [62.73.72.134] X-Mailer: NOCC v0.9.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, i have problem with my courier-imap. I recompile it and instaled on FreeBSD 4.7 from ports. I unable to loggin: my authdaemonrc file: --- begin paste --- --- cut --- authmodulelist="authmysql" authmodulelistorig="authmysql" --- end paste --- authmysqlrc file i configure correctly. My database on 127.0.0.1 and i put them in authmysqlrc file with username, password, database ... I configure imapd file host, port and added AUTH=PLAIN in IMAP_CAPABILITY and comment IMAP_CAPABILITY_TLS Added in mysql.start file extra options: --log=/var/log/mysql.log and start with standart imapd.sh start on freebsd. make ps ax to check and all needed files is loadded. i telnet to 192.168.0.1 port 143 where is my courier-imap and write: a login myuser mypass and i recive : a NO Login failed. ok, i gone to /var/log to check mysql.log file. No any records about trying to connect to database mails (mails is database where is stored username, gid, uid, ... database is work fine and is correct.) No any error message. Any ideas how i run courier-imap? Regards, Condor ___________________________________ http://www.vcable.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 5:43:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ED0537B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 05:43:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from bofh.teihal.gr (bofh.teihal.gr [195.130.65.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B89A443EB2 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 05:43:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from K.Oikonomakos@brad.ac.uk) Received: from shezan.bradford.uk (dsl-217-155-102-250.zen.co.uk [217.155.102.250]) by bofh.teihal.gr (8.12.6/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gB1DbHLP047452; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 15:37:20 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from K.Oikonomakos@brad.ac.uk) Received: from brad.ac.uk (balti.bradford.uk [192.168.0.5]) by shezan.bradford.uk (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id gB1Dg9Js000289; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 13:42:11 GMT Message-ID: <3DEA11F3.8030001@brad.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 13:43:15 +0000 From: Kyriakos Oikonomakos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.0rc3) Gecko/20020811 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: blabla@vcable.net Cc: courier-users@lists.sourceforge.net, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: courier-imap troubleshoting References: <200212011336.gB1Da9rG028316@vcable.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG blabla@vcable.net wrote: > Hello, > i have problem with my courier-imap. > I recompile it and instaled on FreeBSD 4.7 from ports. > I unable to loggin: > my authdaemonrc file: > --- begin paste --- > --- cut --- > authmodulelist="authmysql" > authmodulelistorig="authmysql" > --- end paste --- > authmysqlrc file i configure correctly. > My database on 127.0.0.1 and i put them in authmysqlrc file Why don't you attach your authmysqlrc file along? Have you tried running tcpdump while authenticating to your imap server to check if there is an attempted connection to your mysql database (destination port should be 3306 ). > with username, password, database ... [....] > > Regards, > Condor > > Kyriakos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 6: 5: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B295137B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 06:05:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from foem.leiden.webweaving.org (fia224-72.dsl.hccnet.nl [62.251.72.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9E8843EA9 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 06:05:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dirkx@webweaving.org) Received: from foem (foem [10.11.0.2]) by foem.leiden.webweaving.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gB1E4t64011113 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sun, 1 Dec 2002 15:04:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from dirkx@webweaving.org) Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 15:04:55 +0100 (CET) From: Dirk-Willem van Gulik X-X-Sender: dirkx@foem.leiden.webweaving.org To: "Bernardo M. Brummer" Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OS X root passwd In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021201150420.J25692-100000@foem.leiden.webweaving.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 1 Dec 2002, Bernardo M. Brummer wrote: > Is there a default (preconfigured) root passwd for new Mac OS X machines , > or any simple (that can be executed remotely or that this user could manage > to follow on phone instructions) way to assign a new one ?. As the admin user (the first user created) simply do sudo -s and enter that user's password. Dw. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 6: 7:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B831037B404 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 06:07:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from web21508.mail.yahoo.com (web21508.mail.yahoo.com [66.163.169.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2605243EC2 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 06:07:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from carlosdafe@yahoo.fr) Message-ID: <20021201140710.80261.qmail@web21508.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [193.253.56.126] by web21508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 01 Dec 2002 15:07:10 CET Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 15:07:10 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Marcelo=20Moreira?= Subject: compilation noyau To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG bonjour , afin de configurer ma carte son ,j'ai du tenter (je debute) de recompiler mon noyau arrivé au "make depend" j'obtiens ce message : "/usr/src/sys/modules/accf_data/../../conf/kmod.mk line 63 : could not find bsd.init.mk "/usr/src/sys/modules/accf_data/../../conf/kmod.mk line 190 : could not find bsd.link.mk make :fatal errors encountered --cannot continue *** error code 1 stop in /usr/src/sys/modules *** error code 1 stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/MONNOYAU sachant que je suis en FreeBSD 4.5 et que mon fichier de config du noyau est identique au GENERIC sauf pour l'ident et la ligne suivante device pcm si quelqu'un peut m'aider .. merci d'avance a+ ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en français ! 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Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 6:16:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E52637B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 06:16:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp7.jaring.my (smtp7.jaring.my [61.6.32.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C6B343EBE for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 06:16:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kaeru@pd.jaring.my) Received: from [61.6.157.194] (j180.crc20.jaring.my [61.6.157.194]) by smtp7.jaring.my (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id gB1EGrh14021 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 22:16:53 +0800 (MYT) Subject: M-Sys DiskOnKey From: Khairil Yusof To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-94fTxXrfs2ZN3NwASnPS" Organization: Message-Id: <1038751919.55178.166.camel@daemon> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.0 Date: 01 Dec 2002 22:16:25 +0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --=-94fTxXrfs2ZN3NwASnPS Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anybody got this working? Tried mounting under different da devices but no go. I found some references under freebsd-stable, but advice there didn't work (they were hunches on what might work). It's supposed to be supported for linux 2.4.x kernels. Any tips on how to get it working on FreeBSD? dmesg: da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device=20 da0: 650KB/s transfers da0: 7MB (15584 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 7C) da0: reading primary partition table: error reading fsbn 0 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status =3D=3D 0x4, scsi status =3D=3D 0x0 --=20 Khairil Yusof --=-94fTxXrfs2ZN3NwASnPS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQA96hivDAqnLW/+/X8RAj5EAJ9cJL7xTG0T1CuUXATKSNVowPiwFQCfVvql TW3K1GiBIwg7FUAPzPgE8Ug= =jx6f -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-94fTxXrfs2ZN3NwASnPS-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 6:18:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78B8A37B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 06:18:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.sea.registeredsite.com (mail2.sea.registeredsite.com [66.111.73.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A865A43ECF for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 06:18:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin@asarian-host.net) Received: from asarian-host.net (asarian-host.net [216.122.74.112]) by mail2.sea.registeredsite.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gB1EIYea012042 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 09:18:34 -0500 Comments: To protect the identity of the sender, certain header fields are either not shown, or masked. Anonymous email addresses for asarians can be requested by filling in the appropriate form at: https://asarian-host.net/cgi-bin/signup.cgi Received: (from root@localhost) by asarian-host.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) id gB1EIXv40448 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 15:18:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from admin@asarian-host.net) Posted-Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 15:18:33 +0100 (CET) From: Mark Message-Id: <200212011418.GB1EIVI40435@asarian-host.net> Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 15:18:26 +0100 X-Authenticated-Sender: admin@asarian-host.net Subject: Re: Memory test? 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Regrettably, it failed, saying it had a syntax > > error somewhere. :( > > > > So, I ran it again; and this time it went fine; then I reinstalled > > FreeBSD 4.7 altogether, and rebuilt world again. And, again, > > no problems. > > > > This is a bit worrysome. Does FreeBSD even notice bad memory? > > Would the kernel put a message in /var/log/messages? It did not > > show anything there when buildworld failed. > > I'm not sure what you're getting at. You've seen just one failure, > and it is of a type that is highly unlikely to be memory-related. Au contraire; a syntax error in a "make buildworld" that cannot be repeated when issued again is almost always indicative of a memory error -- especially with a new out of box FreeBSD 4.7R -- and is generally considered a good memory stress test. I was rightly alerted to a memory error. I ran Memtest86, suggested by a list-member here, and indeed, one of the Kingston 512M DIMM's was acting up. I did some research; and Kingston memory appears to have known issues with the ASUS A7V333 board. I switched the DIMM with another computer, and now both run faultless again. - Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 6:50:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF79537B404; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 06:50:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from sol.chel.skbkontur.ru (sol.chel.skbkontur.ru [212.57.175.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57F0843EDE; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 06:50:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ilia@chel.skbkontur.ru) Received: from apollo.chel.skbkontur.ru (apollo.chel.skbkontur.ru [192.168.100.20]) by sol.chel.skbkontur.ru (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gB1EoWuR019718; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 19:50:32 +0500 (YEKT) (envelope-from ilia@chel.skbkontur.ru) Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 19:51:03 +0500 (YEKT) From: Ilia Chipitsine To: Jens Rehsack Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, Subject: Re: ports-multimedia ? In-Reply-To: <3DE91B2E.4020506@liwing.de> Message-ID: <20021201195032.D45581-100000@apollo.chel.skbkontur.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Ilia Chipitsine wrote: > > Dear Sirs, > > > > I've found that avifile moved from graphics to multimedia, > > but I cannot cvsup it. Is it right ? Where I can cvsup ports-multimedia > > collection ? Even when I do "ports-all", multimedia is not included! > > > > Regards, (=EE=C1=C9=CC=D5=DE=DB=C9=C5 =D0=CF=D6=C5=CC=C1=CE=C9=D1) > > Ilia Chipitsine (=E9=CC=D8=D1 =FB=C9=D0=C9=C3=C9=CE) > > > Sure that your cvsupfile get's the most up-to-date version of the ports > tree? Maybe you just cvsup'ing against a release version. sure. > > Jens > -- > L i W W W i Jens Rehsack > L W W W > L i W W W W i nnn gggg LiWing IT-Services > L i W W W W i n n g g > LLLL i W W i n n g g Friesenstra?e 2 > gggg 06112 Halle > g > g g > Tel.: +49 - 3 45 - 5 17 05 91 ggg e-Mail: > Fax: +49 - 3 45 - 5 17 05 92 http://www.liwing.de/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 6:52:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9336537B404; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 06:52:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.libertysurf.net (mail.libertysurf.net [213.36.80.91]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA0043E88; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 06:52:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from groudier@free.fr) Received: from [192.168.1.129] (212.232.50.94) by mail.libertysurf.net (6.5.026) id 3DCA8A7A006B5D9F; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 15:52:27 +0100 Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 16:52:40 +0100 (CET) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=E9rard_Roudier?= X-X-Sender: groudier@localhost.my.domain To: Peter Much Cc: freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG, , Subject: Re: Getting SCSI Scanner to work (with Symbios 53c810a and FreeBSD 4.4) In-Reply-To: <200212010221.gB12LZk02947@disp.oper.dinoex.org> Message-ID: <20021201163916.O195-100000@localhost.my.domain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Peter, You may ignore my previous minute patch and give a try with the below one. It makes more sense to ignore the period (synchronous period factor) when the offset (REQ/ACK offset) is zero, facing synchronous data transfer negotiation in SCSI. Even if the period should be ignored by SCSI devices when the offset is zero, I would prefer the driver to behave correctly by design here (i.e.: ignore the period value when offset is zero). The below patch just does so in the 2 places the driver checks against a needed sync. negotiation. Btw, I would consider as broken any SCSI code that makes decision about data transfer being asynchronous on period value =3D 0. ;-) --- sym_hipd.c.021201=09Sun Dec 1 16:09:55 2002 +++ sym_hipd.c=09Sun Dec 1 16:13:23 2002 @@ -3074,8 +3074,9 @@ =09/* =09 * negotiate synchronous transfers? =09 */ -=09else if (tp->tinfo.current.period !=3D tp->tinfo.goal.period || -=09=09 tp->tinfo.current.offset !=3D tp->tinfo.goal.offset) +=09else if (tp->tinfo.current.offset !=3D tp->tinfo.goal.offset || +=09=09 (tp->tinfo.goal.offset && +=09=09 tp->tinfo.current.period !=3D tp->tinfo.goal.period)) =09=09nego =3D NS_SYNC; =09switch (nego) { @@ -7838,8 +7839,9 @@ =09 */ =09cp->nego_status =3D 0; =09if (tp->tinfo.current.width !=3D tp->tinfo.goal.width || -=09 tp->tinfo.current.period !=3D tp->tinfo.goal.period || =09 tp->tinfo.current.offset !=3D tp->tinfo.goal.offset || +=09 (tp->tinfo.goal.offset && +=09 tp->tinfo.current.period !=3D tp->tinfo.goal.period)|| =09 tp->tinfo.current.options !=3D tp->tinfo.goal.options) { =09=09if (!tp->nego_cp && lp) =09=09=09msglen +=3D sym_prepare_nego(np, cp, 0, msgptr + msglen); ------------------------ CUT HERE ------------------------ Let me know if this patch makes the driver work with your asynchronous-only SCSI scanner. G=E9rard. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 6:55:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE1837B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 06:55:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [63.93.4.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C74E743E4A for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 06:55:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost.wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.12.1/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB1EtfuF005500; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 07:55:41 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) with ESMTP id gB1EtfDG005497; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 07:55:41 -0700 (MST)?g (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 07:55:41 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Lin Jianfong Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: About linux_base6 and linux_base7 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 30 Nov 2002, Lin Jianfong wrote: > I could switch to FreeBSD native Mozilla 1.1, but then flash, realplayer, > acroread plug-ins will no longer work, since they are plugins for linux > native mozilla. flashpluginwrapper allows the Linux Flash plugin to work with a native Mozilla. Acroread also works; I think it just needs a symlink created, although the latest mozilla port may do that itself. Realplayer is not allowed on my systems, so don't know about it. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 6:56:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38B3C37B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 06:56:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostromo.brian-jackson.net (pool-64-223-151-72.man.east.verizon.net [64.223.151.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 280D343E4A for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 06:56:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from b.k.jackson@verizon.net) Received: (qmail 88212 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2002 14:56:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO verizon.net) (192.168.1.97) by 0 with SMTP; 1 Dec 2002 14:56:11 -0000 Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 09:56:11 -0500 Subject: Re: Mail? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v548) Cc: , To: "Unix Tools" From: Brian Jackson In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <07CA85CF-053D-11D7-90A7-000393C260B2@verizon.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.548) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Saturday, November 30, 2002, at 01:45 PM, Unix Tools wrote: > 2) Add an entry at the end if the inetd.conf file > pop3 stream tcp nowait root /var/qmail/bin/tcp-env > tcp-env /var/qmail/bin/pop3 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "aSe" > To: > Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 02:02 AM > Subject: Mail? > > > Hello, > I'm trying to find a guide/walk-through/howto on installing > postfix/qmail on > freebsd, along with a pop3 server. I've been searching on google for > awhile > now, anything i've found is old and/or doesn't talk about setting up > pop3. Please note that the use of inetd with qmail is not supported by the author or if you need help on the qmail mailing lists. Use daemontools (http://cr.yp.to/daemontools.html) instead. The pop daemon should be controlled by tcpserver, similar to the following: #!/bin/sh exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 2000000 \ /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -R -H -l 0 0 110 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup \ /bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir 2>&1 An excellent step by step guide is here (http://www.lifewithqmail.org) which will walk you through setting up qmail. I'm sure the instructions above work well - just wanted to point out the part about inetd. Brian -- Brian Jackson b.k.jackson@verizon.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 7: 0:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F241337B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 07:00:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from the-frontier.org (ns1.the-frontier.org [216.86.199.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 433EE43EA9 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 07:00:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pscott@skycoast.us) Received: from [192.168.66.249] (dhcp-249-66-168-192.the-frontier.org [192.168.66.249]) by the-frontier.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA41379; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 07:00:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pscott@skycoast.us) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 07:00:23 -0800 Subject: Re: OS X root passwd From: "Paul A. Scott" To: Kevin Stevens , Cc: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <28F8B736-052C-11D7-BA5D-003065715DA8@pursued-with.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Sunday, Dec 1, 2002, at 04:40 US/Pacific, Bernardo M. Brummer wrote: > The root account isn't enabled by default. > Run Netinfo Manager, located in Applications/Utilities I SERIOUSLY would NOT recommend doing that. Leave the root account disabled. Instead, use 'sudo' or 'sudo -s' for root access. This should suffice for anything you need to do. -- Paul A. Scott mailto:pscott@skycoast.us http://skycoast.us/pscott/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 8:16: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95CA037B404 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 08:16:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from nollie.summersault.com (nollie.summersault.com [208.10.44.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 770B043EC2 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 08:16:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark-dated-1039623361.87ea0e@summersault.com) Received: (qmail 43639 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2002 16:16:01 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO nollie.summersault.com) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Dec 2002 16:16:01 -0000 Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 11:15:58 -0500 (EST) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: requesting help restoring disklabel on unbootable system Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: Mark Stosberg X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/0.65 (Johnstown) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, After an unfortunate sequence of events, my newly successfully upgraded FreeBSD 4.7 machine would not boot anymore and gave me a "boot:" prompt. Returning to the install CD disklabel program, I saw that the only partition it seemed be to finding was the swap partition. I recreated and wrote to disk what I thought was the old disk partitioning scheme (being careful not to newfs anything). After that, the system would boot off the drive, but would not mount /usr, /var or /tmp due to complains of "bad super block: magic number wrong". I suspect that I guess my partition sizes wrong. My questions are: Does this seem like a recoverable situation? If so, how I can restore a correct partition scheme? I have a backup of an old and valid "/etc" directory. (However, without /usr I don't seem to have enough tools to run "tar" to get at it, or use "fdformat" to create a fixit floppy at this point). Thanks! And for the curious, here's how I managed to get into this situation: After I upgraded the OS, I tried to use "sysinstall" to upgrade bash. I think the trouble was, I using bash to run sysinstall, so it failed. I then used "vipw" to upgrade the root shell to something else, but after logging out and back in, I got errors that "couldn't find /usr/local/bin/bash", so I couldn't log into the machine anymore. So then I tried installing bash from the install CD. It didn't seem to be made for this, because machine would consistently reboot in the middle of this install. At some point in debugging this problem, I may have tried to mount the drive using the installer's disklabel problem. Probabbly somewhere been that and the unexpected crashes I lost the partition map on the disk. -mark http://mark.stosberg.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 8:36:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 695B337B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 08:36:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from sub21-156.member.dsl-only.net (sub21-156.member.dsl-only.net [63.105.21.156]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC8F843EBE for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 08:36:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nkinkade@sub21-156.member.dsl-only.net) Received: from nkinkade by sub21-156.member.dsl-only.net with local (Exim 4.10) id 18IX4o-000KSQ-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 01 Dec 2002 08:36:14 -0800 Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 08:36:14 -0800 From: Nathan Kinkade To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: List of big names ... Message-ID: <20021201163614.GJ7643@sub21-156.member.dsl-only.net> Reply-To: nkinkade@dsl-only.net Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20021201023429.G6214-100000@hub.org> <53747796.1038734505@cmantatzi.in.t-online.fr> <005701c29917$25f70b40$33010f0a@hboc.com> <20021201112919.GB52934@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophi> <1038743467.61892.39.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1038743467.61892.39.camel@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hotmail no longer runs on FreeBSD. Microsoft transitioned to MS platforms a while back. There has been a lot press lately about a leaked internal report from Microsoft regarding the transition process. Basically, the internal report speaks very hightly of *nix on the whole and in some ways degrades Windows. Check it out at: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/28226.html The article is entitled "MS paper touts Unix in Hotmail's Win2k switch." And there are also a link to what is apparently the actual document. It's worth a read. Nathan On Sun, Dec 01, 2002 at 11:51:08AM +0000, Stacey Roberts wrote: > Not to mention a few others like:- > Hotmail > ClaraNET > Playboy > Sony > UUNET > > To name a few. I came in late on this, but thought it worth mentioning > the above, just in case they got neglected. > > Regards, > Stacey > > On Sun, 2002-12-01 at 11:29, Matthew Seaman wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 01, 2002 at 02:53:40AM -0600, Chad Albert wrote: > > > For Web servers, netcraft can help you out too. In particular, their > > > "longest uptime on the internet" page may be of particular interest if you > > > are pro FreeBSD. > > > http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/today/top.avg.html > > > No really, you see Linux on the list every once in a while ;-) > > > > One thing I haven't seen enough mention made of in this context are a > > few interesting sites running FreeBSD. Let's see: everyone here > > should know about Yahoo.com by now... > > > > Then there's apache.org: > > > > http://www.netcraft.com/Survey/Reports/200211/developers/apache.html > > > > Netcraft themselves: > > > > http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.netcraft.com > > > > Lets see: that's the biggest site on the Internet (or so I hear --- > > certainly it's in the top ten), the people who make the world's most > > popular HTTP server software and the people whose business it is to know > > just about everything there is to know about web serving. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Matthew > -- > Stacey Roberts > B.Sc (HONS) Computer Science > > Web: www.vickiandstacey.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 8:41: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1320B37B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 08:41:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from ip68-14-62-49.no.no.cox.net (ip68-14-62-49.no.no.cox.net [68.14.62.49]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 627CA43EB2 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 08:41:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Received: from ip68-14-62-49.no.no.cox.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ip68-14-62-49.no.no.cox.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gB1Gf3el074901 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 10:41:04 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from conrads@ip68-14-62-49.no.no.cox.net) Received: (from conrads@localhost) by ip68-14-62-49.no.no.cox.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gB1GewkI074900 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 10:40:58 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from conrads) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.3 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 10:40:58 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: conrads@cox.net Organization: A Rag-Tag Band of Drug-crazed Hippies From: Conrad Sabatier To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: dump/restore after filesystem layout changes Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG First of all, I just gotta say: ATAPICAM rocks!!! I can now use my ATAPI CD burner with dump/restore! Awesome!!! Ok, now on to my question: I'd like to do a full backup on each of my filesystems, zap all the partitions and do a new fdisk/disklabel with more filesystems than I'm currently using. For example, create a new /home partition instead of using a symlink in / to /usr/home. I'm just wondering if this will present any problems when restoring from backups. I can't seem to glean this information from the man pages. Thanks! -- Conrad Sabatier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 8:48:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08A7537B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 08:48:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from bellavista.cz (mail.bellavista.cz [62.168.44.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89E2743E88 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 08:48:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from neuhauser@bellavista.cz) Received: from lilith.bellavista.cz ([10.1.0.1]) by bellavista.cz (8.9.3/8.9.8) with ESMTP id RAA12673 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 17:47:59 +0100 Received: from freepuppy.bellavista.cz (freepuppy.bellavista.cz [10.0.0.10]) by lilith.bellavista.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0355D28 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 18:46:10 +0100 (CET) Received: by freepuppy.bellavista.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A8C262FDAD7; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 17:47:58 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 17:47:58 +0100 From: Roman Neuhauser To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: List of big names ... Message-ID: <20021201164758.GC86826@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20021201023429.G6214-100000@hub.org> <53747796.1038734505@cmantatzi.in.t-online.fr> <005701c29917$25f70b40$33010f0a@hboc.com> <20021201112919.GB52934@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophi> <1038743467.61892.39.camel@localhost> <20021201163614.GJ7643@sub21-156.member.dsl-only.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021201163614.GJ7643@sub21-156.member.dsl-only.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG # nkinkade@dsl-only.net / 2002-12-01 08:36:14 -0800: > On Sun, Dec 01, 2002 at 11:51:08AM +0000, Stacey Roberts wrote: > > On Sun, 2002-12-01 at 11:29, Matthew Seaman wrote: > > > One thing I haven't seen enough mention made of in this context are a > > > few interesting sites running FreeBSD. Let's see: everyone here > > > should know about Yahoo.com by now... > > > > > > Then there's apache.org: > > > > > > http://www.netcraft.com/Survey/Reports/200211/developers/apache.html > > > > > > Netcraft themselves: > > > > > > http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.netcraft.com > > > > > > Lets see: that's the biggest site on the Internet (or so I hear --- > > > certainly it's in the top ten), the people who make the world's most > > > popular HTTP server software and the people whose business it is to know > > > just about everything there is to know about web serving. > > > > Not to mention a few others like:- > > Hotmail > > ClaraNET > > Playboy > > Sony > > UUNET > > > > To name a few. I came in late on this, but thought it worth mentioning > > the above, just in case they got neglected. > > Hotmail no longer runs on FreeBSD. Microsoft transitioned to MS > platforms a while back. There has been a lot press lately about a > leaked internal report from Microsoft regarding the transition process. > Basically, the internal report speaks very hightly of *nix on the whole > and in some ways degrades Windows. Check it out at: > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/28226.html > The article is entitled "MS paper touts Unix in Hotmail's Win2k switch." > And there are also a link to what is apparently the actual document. > It's worth a read. That "document" is IMNSHO a hoax. -- If you cc me or remove the list(s) completely I'll most likely ignore your message. see http://www.eyrie.org./~eagle/faqs/questions.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 8:48:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0A3437B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 08:48:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from nollie.summersault.com (nollie.summersault.com [208.10.44.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E96ED43E88 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 08:48:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark-dated-1039625330.d33b7b@summersault.com) Received: (qmail 44798 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2002 16:48:50 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO nollie.summersault.com) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Dec 2002 16:48:50 -0000 Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 11:48:46 -0500 (EST) To: Conrad Sabatier Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dump/restore after filesystem layout changes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: Mark Stosberg X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/0.65 (Johnstown) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 1 Dec 2002, Conrad Sabatier wrote: > > Ok, now on to my question: I'd like to do a full backup on each of my > filesystems, zap all the partitions and do a new fdisk/disklabel with more > filesystems than I'm currently using. For example, create a new /home > partition instead of using a symlink in / to /usr/home. > > I'm just wondering if this will present any problems when restoring from > backups. I can't seem to glean this information from the man pages. Conrad, I did something similar once. I added a new disk that I wanted to replace my primary disk, but I wanted the partitioning a little different, like you did. It worked fine for me, copying over one partition at a time using "cpio". I imagine then it will work in your case as well. If you are interested to know about the process I used, you could browse the "disks" section on freebsddiary.org which was the basic for my methodology. -mark http://mark.stosberg.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 8:50: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64D8237B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 08:50:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from bodb.mc.mpls.visi.com (bodb.mc.mpls.visi.com [208.42.156.104]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE2E443EC2 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 08:49:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hawkeyd@visi.com) Received: from sheol.localdomain (hawkeyd-fw.dsl.visi.com [208.42.101.193]) by bodb.mc.mpls.visi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94EB34ACD for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 10:49:58 -0600 (CST) Received: (from hawkeyd@localhost) by sheol.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gB1Gnv529056 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 10:49:57 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from hawkeyd) Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 10:49:57 -0600 From: D J Hawkey Jr To: questions at FreeBSD Subject: XF86-4.2.0, libfreetype.so.8, and TrueType fonts Message-ID: <20021201104957.A28968@sheol.localdomain> Reply-To: hawkeyd@visi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="jI8keyz6grp/JLjh" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --jI8keyz6grp/JLjh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hi all. Attached is a mail I sent to the author of "XFree86 Font De-uglification" (http://ldp.kernelnotes.de/HOWTO/mini/FDU/index.html), but have yet to receive a reply. A pertinent-to-this-group comment: I built Mozilla 1.1 from the ports, but the XFree86 package is from XFree86's own binary distribution for FreeBSD. I therefore hacked mozilla's port Makefile to use the XFree86- supplied libfreetype.so.8 instead of installing libfreetype.so.9; I don't want to "clutter" /usr/local with stuff that 1) seems un-necessary and 2) should be in /usr/X11R6 anyway ;-, Can anyone here help in lieu of the webpage author's absence? Thanks, Dave -- ______________________ ______________________ \__________________ \ D. J. HAWKEY JR. / __________________/ \________________/\ hawkeyd@visi.com /\________________/ http://www.visi.com/~hawkeyd/ --jI8keyz6grp/JLjh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Description: mail to author of "XFree86 Font De-uglification" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=asdf From hawkeyd@visi.com Tue Nov 26 17:29:56 2002 Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 17:29:56 -0600 From: D J Hawkey Jr To: hal@foobox.net Subject: Your XF86 De-uglification Howto --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hi. Hope you don't mind this intrusion. First off, nice set of pages. I found them straight-forward, and up-to- date. Even the external hyperlinks aren't stale! However, I have run into an obstacle that's driving me nuts. Everything goes well until section 5.2, Xft and Mozilla. However, when I go into Moz's "Edit -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Fonts", and try to select TTF fonts, I don't get any that begin with an uppercase letter. They all are of a foundry-face-iso-digit style listing (like an abbreviated XFLD), and they are all lowercase. It doesn't matter what font I select, the same thing always occurs: Un-antialiased rendition until the fonts get _really_ big, and then only some fonts, at that. This is Mozilla 1.1, BTW. A few particulars: I'm running FreeBSD 4.5-REL-p23 and Xfree86 4.2, as supplied by the XFree86 project (that is, a binary package for FreeBSD built by by them). /usr/X11R6/include/freetype2/freetype/config/ftoption.h as supplied by the project has TT_CONFIG_OPTION_BYTECODE_INTERPRETER defined, and /usr/X11R6/lib has libfreetype.so.8 in it. I'm running a 1024x768, 75-dpi, display on a 15-inch CRT (I do hate how 100-dpi fonts look, TTF or otherwise). All the requisites of the X server are present (RENDER, etc.). I've run 'ttmkfdir' in the font directories, and used that Perl script (which needed a few small changes to run) to create font.alias files, just in case Moz needs that. I attach my /etc/X11/XftConfig and $HOME/.mozilla/default/.../user.js files; can you tell me where I've gone wrong? I can supply more info as you think you need, of course. Note that much of the TTF stuff in user.js is commented, but they make no difference when enabled either. Thanks, Dave -- ______________________ ______________________ \__________________ \ D. J. HAWKEY JR. / __________________/ \________________/\ hawkeyd@visi.com /\________________/ http://www.visi.com/~hawkeyd/ --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Description: XftConfig Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=XftConfig # # XftConfig # # Use with Type1 and TrueType fonts # dir "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1" dir "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF" dir "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/truetype" # # alias 'fixed' for 'mono' # match any family == "fixed" edit family =+ "mono"; # # Check users config file # includeif "~/.xftconfig" # # Substitute TrueType fonts for Type1 versions # match any family == "Times" edit family += "Times New Roman"; match any family == "Helvetica" edit family += "Verdana"; match any family == "Courier" edit family += "Courier New"; # # Use Luxi fonts for defaults # match any family == "serif" edit family += "Luxi Serif"; match any family == "sans" edit family += "Luxi Sans"; match any family == "mono" edit family += "Luxi Mono"; # # Alias between XLFD families and font file family name, prefer local fonts # match any family == "Charter" edit family += "Bitstream Charter"; match any family == "Bitstream Charter" edit family =+ "Charter"; match any family == "Lucidux Serif" edit family += "LuciduxSerif"; match any family == "LuciduxSerif" edit family =+ "Lucidux Serif"; match any family == "Lucidux Sans" edit family += "LuciduxSans"; match any family == "LuciduxSans" edit family =+ "Lucidux Sans"; match any family == "Lucidux Mono" edit family += "LuciduxMono"; match any family == "LuciduxMono" edit family =+ "Lucidux Mono"; # # TrueType font aliases # match any family == "Comic Sans" edit family += "Comic Sans MS"; match any family == "Comic Sans MS" edit family =+ "Comic Sans"; match any family == "Trebuchet" edit family += "Trebuchet MS"; match any family == "Trebuchet MS" edit family =+ "Trebuchet"; match any family == "Monotype" edit family =+ "Monotype.com"; match any family == "Andale Mono" edit family += "Monotype.com"; match any family == "Monotype.com" edit family =+ "Andale Mono"; # # Alias older name for Luxi fonts # match any family == "Lucidux Serif" edit family += "Luxi Serif"; match any family == "LuciduxSerif" edit family += "Luxi Serif"; match any family == "Lucidux Sans" edit family += "Luxi Sans"; match any family == "LuciduxSans" edit family += "Luxi Sans"; match any family == "Lucidux Mono" edit family += "Luxi Mono"; match any family == "LuciduxMono" edit family += "Luxi Mono"; # # Set up AntiAliasing # match any size < 8 edit antialias = false; match any family == "webdings" edit antialias = false; encoding += "glyphs-fontspecific"; match any family == "symbol" edit antialias = false; encoding += "glyphs-fontspecific"; match any family == "Standard Symbols L" edit antialias = false; encoding += "glyphs-fontspecific"; match any family == "dingbats" edit antialias = false; encoding += "glyphs-fontspecific"; match any family == "Cursor" edit antialias = false; encoding += "glyphs-fontspecific"; --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Description: user.js Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="user.js" //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// // Turning off annoyances //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// // Image animation mode: normal, once, none. user_pref("image.animation_mode", "once"); // Show pref UI to block images that don't come from the current server //user_pref("imageblocker.enable", true); // Turn that annoying autocomplete popup REALLY off: // (This actually has a UI but it's buried.) user_pref("browser.urlbar.autocomplete.enabled", false); user_pref("browser.urlbar.showPopup", false); user_pref("browser.urlbar.showSearch", false); // Most Unix people think modal pref windows are stupid: user_pref("browser.prefWindowModal", false); //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// // UI look-and-feel issues //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// // Don't ever show me a font smaller than this: see bug 30910. // This is the new cross-platform pref; the old Unix-only // font.min-size pref is deprecated and will be removed soon. // There may eventually be some related UI, from bug 61883. user_pref("font.minimum-size.x-western", 12); // Set the submenu delay to be really long. // This means that menus will stay posted until I click somewhere, // making them behave more like Motif menus instead of un-posting // whenever my mouse strays one pixel off the menu or cuts // across the border between a menu and a submenu: //user_pref("ui.submenuDelay", 7000); // Set select background for text widgets: //user_pref("ui.textSelectBackground", "green"); //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// // Control of popup windows //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// // Use configurable security policies to override popups, see // http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/components/configPolicy.html // Turn window.open off for particular sites: //user_pref("capability.policy.popupsites.sites", "http://www.annoyingsite1.com http://www.popupsite2.com"); //user_pref("capability.policy.popupsites.Window.open","noAccess"); // Or turn it off everywhere: //user_pref("capability.policy.default.Window.open","noAccess"); // More important, disable JS windows popping up a new window on load // (as lots of porn and spam sites do): user_pref("dom.disable_open_during_load", true); // Override popping up new windows on target=anything //user_pref("browser.target_new_blocked", true); //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// // Miscellaneous stuff //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// // Override the default user-agent string: //user_pref("general.useragent.override", "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22smp i686; en-US; m18) Gecko/20010110 Netscape6/6.5"); // Syntax highlighting in View Source //user_pref("browser.view_source.syntax_highlight", false); // In chatzilla, show original text in addition to smiley substitutions: //user_pref("extensions.irc.munger.smileyText", true); // Wrap column for html output from the editor: user_pref("editor.htmlWrapColumn", 72); // Show JS warnings: //user_pref("javascript.options.strict", true); // Enable TrueType fonts: user_pref("font.FreeType2.enable", true); //user_pref("font.FreeType2.shared-library", "libfreetype.so.8"); //user_pref("font.FreeType2.autohinted", true); //user_pref("font.FreeType2.unhinted", false); //user_pref("font.antialias.min", 10); //user_pref("font.embedded_bitmaps.max", 1000000); //user_pref("font.scale.tt_bitmap.dark_text.min", 64); //user_pref("font.scale.tt_bitmap.dark_text.gain", "0.8"); user_pref("font.directory.truetype.1", "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF"); user_pref("font.directory.truetype.2", "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/truetype"); user_pref("helpers.private_mailcap_file","/home/hawkeyd/.mailcap"); user_pref("helpers.private_mime_types_file","/home/hawkeyd/.mime.types"); //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// // Useful mail/news prefs //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// // 0=bottom 1=top 2=select+bottom 3=select+top // Mozilla defaults it to 0, but Netscape defaults it to 1 (yuck). //pref("mailnews.reply_on_top", 0); // Show the user agent of incoming messages //user_pref("mailnews.headers.showUserAgent", true); // Turn off the history addrbook //user_pref("mail.collect_email_address", false); // Turn off graphical reply style in the message window //pref("mail.quoted_graphical", false); // display glyph, see http://www.bucksch.org/1/projects/mozilla/16507 //pref("mail.display_glyph", true); // use HTML-style quoting for quoting plain text (during HTML replies) //pref("mail.quoteasblock", true); // Format=flowed prefs, RFC 2646 //pref("mailnews.send_plaintext_flowed", true); //user_pref("mailnews.display.disable_format_flowed_support", true); //pref("mail.display_struct", true); //pref("mail.send_struct", false); --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV-- --jI8keyz6grp/JLjh-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 8:56:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E31337B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 08:56:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from nollie.summersault.com (nollie.summersault.com [208.10.44.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B948843EC5 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 08:56:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark-dated-1039625816.3c2038@summersault.com) Received: (qmail 45036 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2002 16:56:56 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO nollie.summersault.com) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Dec 2002 16:56:56 -0000 Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 11:56:52 -0500 (EST) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: requesting help restoring disklabel on unbootable system In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: Mark Stosberg X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/0.65 (Johnstown) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 1 Dec 2002, Mark Stosberg wrote: > > After an unfortunate sequence of events, my newly successfully upgraded FreeBSD 4.7 > machine would not boot anymore and gave me a "boot:" prompt. Returning > to the install CD disklabel program, I saw that the only partition it > seemed be to finding was the swap partition. > > I recreated and wrote to disk what I thought was the old disk > partitioning scheme (being careful not to newfs anything). After that, > the system would boot off the drive, but would not mount /usr, /var or > /tmp due to complains of "bad super block: magic number wrong". I > suspect that I guessed my partition sizes wrong. I have a lead on solving this now. I found a tool called "find-sb" which finds superblocks, and seemed like it could be used to make a smarter guess about what my partition sizes should be. The trouble is, now I'm scratching my head about how to this tool installed in a useable state on the system since I can't boot fully in the first place. "find-sb": http://gatekeeper.dec.com/pub/BSD/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/src/tools/tools/find-sb/ -mark http://mark.stosberg.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 9: 1: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CF6937B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 09:00:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from colossus.systems.pipex.net (colossus.systems.pipex.net [62.241.160.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37E5A43E88 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 09:00:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stacey@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from [192.168.1.8] (81-86-129-77.dsl.pipex.com [81.86.129.77]) by colossus.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D579160002EF; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 17:00:54 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: List of big names ... From: Stacey Roberts Reply-To: stacey@vickiandstacey.com To: nkinkade@dsl-only.net Cc: FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: <20021201163614.GJ7643@sub21-156.member.dsl-only.net> References: <20021201023429.G6214-100000@hub.org> <53747796.1038734505@cmantatzi.in.t-online.fr> <005701c29917$25f70b40$33010f0a@hboc.com> <20021201112919.GB52934@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophi> <1038743467.61892.39.camel@localhost> <20021201163614.GJ7643@sub21-156.member.dsl-only.net> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1038762055.61892.44.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.0 Date: 01 Dec 2002 17:00:56 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 2002-12-01 at 16:36, Nathan Kinkade wrote: > Hotmail no longer runs on FreeBSD. Microsoft transitioned to MS > platforms a while back. There has been a lot press lately about a > leaked internal report from Microsoft regarding the transition process. > Basically, the internal report speaks very hightly of *nix on the whole > and in some ways degrades Windows. Check it out at: > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/28226.html > The article is entitled "MS paper touts Unix in Hotmail's Win2k switch." > And there are also a link to what is apparently the actual document. > It's worth a read. > > Nathan > Err.., I'll be willing to pay to see anyone "of note" at Hotmail who is willing to categorically state that Hotmail does not use FreeBSD. Don't believe *everything* you read :-) Of course.., if you know better, then...., Regards, Stacey > On Sun, Dec 01, 2002 at 11:51:08AM +0000, Stacey Roberts wrote: > > Not to mention a few others like:- > > Hotmail > > ClaraNET > > Playboy > > Sony > > UUNET > > > > To name a few. I came in late on this, but thought it worth mentioning > > the above, just in case they got neglected. > > > > Regards, > > Stacey > > > > On Sun, 2002-12-01 at 11:29, Matthew Seaman wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 01, 2002 at 02:53:40AM -0600, Chad Albert wrote: > > > > For Web servers, netcraft can help you out too. In particular, their > > > > "longest uptime on the internet" page may be of particular interest if you > > > > are pro FreeBSD. > > > > http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/today/top.avg.html > > > > No really, you see Linux on the list every once in a while ;-) > > > > > > One thing I haven't seen enough mention made of in this context are a > > > few interesting sites running FreeBSD. Let's see: everyone here > > > should know about Yahoo.com by now... > > > > > > Then there's apache.org: > > > > > > http://www.netcraft.com/Survey/Reports/200211/developers/apache.html > > > > > > Netcraft themselves: > > > > > > http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.netcraft.com > > > > > > Lets see: that's the biggest site on the Internet (or so I hear --- > > > certainly it's in the top ten), the people who make the world's most > > > popular HTTP server software and the people whose business it is to know > > > just about everything there is to know about web serving. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Matthew > > -- > > Stacey Roberts > > B.Sc (HONS) Computer Science > > > > Web: www.vickiandstacey.com > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Stacey Roberts B.Sc (HONS) Computer Science Web: www.vickiandstacey.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 9: 5:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B96A37B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 09:05:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from transport.cksoft.de (transport.cksoft.de [62.111.66.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B47C43EA9 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 09:05:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ck@cksoft.de) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by transport.cksoft.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91D6B1FFF00; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 18:05:36 +0100 (CET) Received: by transport.cksoft.de (Postfix, from userid 66) id DB9831FFF0C; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 18:05:35 +0100 (CET) Received: by hirvi.cksoft.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DB4B61B673; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 18:56:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hirvi.cksoft.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C5B218E88; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 18:56:45 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 18:56:45 +0100 (CET) From: Christian Kratzer X-X-Sender: To: "Marc G. Fournier" Cc: Subject: Re: List of big names ... In-Reply-To: <20021201023429.G6214-100000@hub.org> Message-ID: X-Spammer-Kill-Ratio: 75% MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20020300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, On Sun, 1 Dec 2002, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > Other then that I know Yahoo! uses FreeBSD ... is there a list that anyone > is maintain about who is using it? I've been having discussions with a > partner for awhile now about whether we should launch a product with a > base OS of linux vs freebsd ... and its tiring to try and argue against > "but, nobody is accepting FreeBSD ... everyone (IBM, HP, Sun, etc) is > falling behind Linux" ... > > Do we have *anything* ... case studies or the like, from big names that > have decided *for* FreeBSD over Linux, with a sort of 'why' discusion? on the embedded side there is the Nokia/CheckPoint hardware firewall applicaces. Nokia uses a hacked FreeBSD 2.x base system to host the checkpoint firewall for which checkpoint did a port only available with this nokia bundle. Also junipers internet core routers are based on FreeBSD. Greetings Christian -- CK Software GmbH Christian Kratzer, Schwarzwaldstr. 31, 71131 Jettingen Email: ck@cksoft.de Phone: +49 7452 889-135 Open Software Solutions, Network Security Fax: +49 7452 889-136 FreeBSD spoken here! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 9: 7:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A470937B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 09:07:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from web.mylinuxisp.com (www.mylinuxisp.com [216.39.194.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD34443EA9 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 09:07:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from feline@mylinuxisp.com) Received: from feline.mylinuxisp.com (feline.mylinuxisp.com [216.39.196.242]) by web.mylinuxisp.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB1H7H430567 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 11:07:18 -0600 Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 11:06:27 -0600 (CST) From: Robert Wade X-X-Sender: To: Subject: FreeBSD CD-ROM Driver Capabilities Message-ID: <20021201110336.A4936-100000@localhost.localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG List, How many sectors can be read per request from the cd-rom driver? If you'd please respond to me directly, as I'm not a member of this list. Thank You, Robert Wade To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 9:13: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 713E437B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 09:13:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from bofh.teihal.gr (bofh.teihal.gr [195.130.65.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB4CA43EAF for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 09:13:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from K.Oikonomakos@brad.ac.uk) Received: from shezan.bradford.uk (dsl-217-155-102-250.zen.co.uk [217.155.102.250]) by bofh.teihal.gr (8.12.6/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gB1H6cLP050669; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 19:06:46 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from K.Oikonomakos@brad.ac.uk) Received: from shezan.bradford.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by shezan.bradford.uk (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id gB1HBMJs000564; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 17:11:22 GMT Received: (from kiriakos@localhost) by shezan.bradford.uk (8.12.4/8.12.4/Submit) id gB1HBKLs000563; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 17:11:20 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: shezan.bradford.uk: kiriakos set sender to K.Oikonomakos@brad.ac.uk using -f Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 17:11:20 +0000 From: K.Oikonomakos@brad.ac.uk To: Conrad Sabatier Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dump/restore after filesystem layout changes Message-ID: <20021201171120.GA550@brad.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: K.Oikonomakos@brad.ac.uk, Conrad Sabatier , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Dec 01, 2002 at 10:40:58AM -0600, Conrad Sabatier wrote: > First of all, I just gotta say: ATAPICAM rocks!!! I can now use my ATAPI > CD burner with dump/restore! Awesome!!! > > Ok, now on to my question: I'd like to do a full backup on each of my > filesystems, zap all the partitions and do a new fdisk/disklabel with more > filesystems than I'm currently using. For example, create a new /home > partition instead of using a symlink in / to /usr/home. > > I'm just wondering if this will present any problems when restoring from > backups. I can't seem to glean this information from the man pages. Well it is going to work as long as the directory structure is not changed. But you will have to be extra carefull with your permissions when you backup/restore your files. (what are you going to use for backup? dump/restore?) > > Thanks! > > -- > Conrad Sabatier > Kyriakos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 9:25:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 508C137B401; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 09:25:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from sol.chel.skbkontur.ru (sol.chel.skbkontur.ru [212.57.175.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80BF143EA9; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 09:24:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ilia@chel.skbkontur.ru) Received: from apollo.chel.skbkontur.ru (apollo.chel.skbkontur.ru [192.168.100.20]) by sol.chel.skbkontur.ru (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gB1HOXuR021696; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 22:24:33 +0500 (YEKT) (envelope-from ilia@chel.skbkontur.ru) Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 22:25:04 +0500 (YEKT) From: Ilia Chipitsine To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: ports@FreeBSD.ORG, Subject: gtk12 doesn't compile Message-ID: <20021201222245.Q66966-200000@apollo.chel.skbkontur.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1417137266-1038763504=:66966" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-1417137266-1038763504=:66966 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE the problem is: =3D=3D=3D> Script "configure" failed unexpectedly. Please report the problem to gnome@FreeBSD.org [maintainer] and attach the "/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk12/work/gtk+-1.2.10/config.log" including the output of the failure of your make command. Also, it might be a good idea to provide an overview of all packages installed on your system (e.g. an `ls /var/db/pkg`). *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk12. apollo# uname -a FreeBSD apollo.chel.skbkontur.ru 4.7-STABLE FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE #0: Sun Dec 1 10:44:06 YEKT 2002 ilia@apollo.chel.skbkontur.ru:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC i386 apollo# Mesa-3.4.2_2 XFree86-aoutlibs-3.3.3 Xaw3d-1.5 aalib-1.2 apache-2.0.43 autoconf213-2.13.000227_1 automake14-1.4.5_8 avifile-0.7.18.20021107,2 cclient-2001a,1 cdrtools-1.10 cfs-1.4.0b2_1 citrix_ica-6.20.986 cyrus-sasl-2.1.9_1 db3-3.3.11,1 deco-3.8.3 djbfft-0.76 esound-0.2.29 expat-1.95.5 ffmpeg-0.4.5_4 fvwm-2.3.19 fxtv-1.02 fxtv-1.03 gettext-0.11.5_1 gimp-1.1.24 glib-1.2.10_7 glib-1.2.10_8 glib-1.2.8 gmake-3.79.1 gtk-1.2.8 imlib-1.9.14_1 iozone-3.83_1 john-1.6 jpeg-6b krb5-1.2.3 krb5-1.2.6 liba52-0.7.4 libaudiofile-0.2.3 libdvdcss-1.2.2 libdvdread-0.9.3 libgnugetopt-1.2 libiconv-1.8_2 libogg-1.0_1,3 libtool-1.3.4_2 libungif-4.1.0b1 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Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've installed a minimal+docs generic system on 500-somethingMB HD, and I'm trying to run it on a 386, 8Mb RAM computer. It fails at elf_loadexec: archsw.readin failed can't load module '/kernel': input/output error Because of the small HD, and the fact that the /var and the /tmp partitions never use over a few hundred blocks on my Pentium computer, I made them 32Mb each for the 386, but accepted the defaults for the "/" and the Swap partitions; the /usr partition got the remainder of the HD. Am I seeing a configuration error, a MB error, other? Any thoughts? Thanks. Walter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 9:44:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D73937B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 09:44:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from www.technaholics.com (12-218-133-12.client.mchsi.com [12.218.133.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 028E043E4A for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 09:44:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chadalbert@mchsi.com) Received: from SPGCALBERTA ([10.15.1.51]) by www.technaholics.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gB1Hhu418551 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 11:43:58 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from chadalbert@mchsi.com) Message-ID: <006b01c29961$38263260$33010f0a@hboc.com> From: "Chad Albert" To: "FreeBSD Questions" References: <20021201023429.G6214-100000@hub.org> <53747796.1038734505@cmantatzi.in.t-online.fr> <005701c29917$25f70b40$33010f0a@hboc.com> <20021201112919.GB52934@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophi> <1038743467.61892.39.camel@localhost> <20021201163614.GJ7643@sub21-156.member.dsl-only.net> Subject: Re: List of big names ... Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 11:43:53 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Don't forget that MS themselves choose FreeBSD when the time came to port .net and C#, plus Apple decided they liked it for their OSX. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nathan Kinkade" To: "FreeBSD Questions" Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 10:36 AM Subject: Re: List of big names ... > Hotmail no longer runs on FreeBSD. Microsoft transitioned to MS > platforms a while back. There has been a lot press lately about a > leaked internal report from Microsoft regarding the transition process. > Basically, the internal report speaks very hightly of *nix on the whole > and in some ways degrades Windows. Check it out at: > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/28226.html > The article is entitled "MS paper touts Unix in Hotmail's Win2k switch." > And there are also a link to what is apparently the actual document. > It's worth a read. > > Nathan > > On Sun, Dec 01, 2002 at 11:51:08AM +0000, Stacey Roberts wrote: > > Not to mention a few others like:- > > Hotmail > > ClaraNET > > Playboy > > Sony > > UUNET > > > > To name a few. I came in late on this, but thought it worth mentioning > > the above, just in case they got neglected. > > > > Regards, > > Stacey > > > > On Sun, 2002-12-01 at 11:29, Matthew Seaman wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 01, 2002 at 02:53:40AM -0600, Chad Albert wrote: > > > > For Web servers, netcraft can help you out too. In particular, their > > > > "longest uptime on the internet" page may be of particular interest if you > > > > are pro FreeBSD. > > > > http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/today/top.avg.html > > > > No really, you see Linux on the list every once in a while ;-) > > > > > > One thing I haven't seen enough mention made of in this context are a > > > few interesting sites running FreeBSD. Let's see: everyone here > > > should know about Yahoo.com by now... > > > > > > Then there's apache.org: > > > > > > http://www.netcraft.com/Survey/Reports/200211/developers/apache.html > > > > > > Netcraft themselves: > > > > > > http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.netcraft.com > > > > > > Lets see: that's the biggest site on the Internet (or so I hear --- > > > certainly it's in the top ten), the people who make the world's most > > > popular HTTP server software and the people whose business it is to know > > > just about everything there is to know about web serving. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Matthew > > -- > > Stacey Roberts > > B.Sc (HONS) Computer Science > > > > Web: www.vickiandstacey.com > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 10: 8:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AB1037B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 10:08:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from catv-50622a7a.nyircatv.broadband.hu (catv-50622a7a.nyircatv.broadband.hu [80.98.42.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A29D43E4A for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 10:08:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrew@kronos.HomeUnix.com) Received: from slave.east.ath.cx (witch@slave.east.ath.cx [10.1.1.1]) by catv-50622a7a.nyircatv.broadband.hu (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gB1I87Sq001246 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sun, 1 Dec 2002 19:08:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from andrew@kronos.HomeUnix.com) Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 19:08:07 +0100 (CET) From: Andrew Prewett Reply-To: Andrew Prewett To: Kirk Bailey Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Run as owner In-Reply-To: <3DE991FC.20200@netzero.net> Message-ID: <20021201183412.I50396-100000@slave.east.ath.cx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Nov 30 Kirk Bailey wrote: > This script is not perl, it is in python. So far the python community has > failed in the search for clue, possibly this one can assist? > Python or not python is irrevelant here. As last resort, if you don't want to use su, sudo or ksu, you can use a setuid/setgid wrapper program to execute your script: ---- wrapper.c ----- #include #include int main(void) { execlp("/full/path/to/script", "script", "arg1", "arg2", NULL); perror("script"); return 1; } ------------------- arg1/arg2 is the first/second argument to the script, if any. ie: "-c" "filename". If there is no args, then leave them out. ---- Makefile ----- PROG= wrapper NOMAN= yep .include ------------------- - put the wrapper.c and the Makefile in a dir, and issue the make command. - change the owner (group), ie.: chown joeuser:joegroup wrapper - turn the setuid bit on: chmod 04555 wrapper (not the script) Hope this helps, -andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 10:20:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A1DF37B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 10:20:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.comcast.net (smtp.comcast.net [24.153.64.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43C8143E4A for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 10:20:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from philip@p6m7g8.com) Received: from p6m7g8.com (pcp699707pcs.hyatsv01.md.comcast.net [68.50.173.216]) by mtaout04.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 1.5 (built Sep 23 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H6G00733DMT0F@mtaout04.icomcast.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 01 Dec 2002 13:20:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 13:20:52 +0000 From: "Philip M. Gollucci" Subject: Sendmail / Fetchmail / Procmail / Mozilla To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <3DEA0CB4.3030204@p6m7g8.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.2b) Gecko/20021126 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Please cc me on the response. Thanks. This is for a FreeBSD 5.0-DP2 If I want to use fetchmail to snag email from say 4 different pop acounts and then filter it with procmail and use mozilla to read it (which I've read is trivial to do), what parts of sendmail (or any mta) must I have running minimally on localhost. You can assume that this is for my person workstation and I do have root. While were on the sendmail thing, what exactly was the final decision on how to turn it off completely in FreeBSD4.7-RELEASE and -CURRENT ? (have the recent changes been MFC'ed yet) I've seen different answers across news groups, this list, and the src/UPDATING file. i.e. a) sendmail_enable = "NO" (or anything that isn't NONE or YES) b) senmail_enable = "NONE" c) mta_start_script="/nonexistent" (or empty quotes) d) sendmail_enable="NO" sendmail_submit_enable="NO" sendmail_outbound_enable="NO" sendmail_msp_queue_enable="NO" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 10:25:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5043037B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 10:25:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03.attbi.com [204.127.202.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF7E943E4A for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 10:25:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paulbeard@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (12-231-115-57.client.attbi.com[12.231.115.57]) by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03) with SMTP id <2002120118254800300jbpage>; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 18:25:48 +0000 Message-ID: <3DEA5425.4050007@mac.com> Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 10:25:41 -0800 From: paul beard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.2b) Gecko/20021128 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Marc G. Fournier" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: List of big names ... References: <20021201023429.G6214-100000@hub.org> In-Reply-To: <20021201023429.G6214-100000@hub.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Marc G. Fournier wrote: > Other then that I know Yahoo! uses FreeBSD ... is there a list > that anyone is maintain about who is using it? I've been > having discussions with a partner for awhile now about whether > we should launch a product with a base OS of linux vs freebsd > ... and its tiring to try and argue against "but, nobody is > accepting FreeBSD ... everyone (IBM, HP, Sun, etc) is falling > behind Linux" ... > Apple seems to think pretty highly of FreeBSD. And there are the oft-repeated rumors that WinNT/2000/XP all use the BSD TCP stack. Having used both, I would never choose Linux over FreeBSD. > Do we have *anything* ... case studies or the like, from big > names that have decided *for* FreeBSD over Linux, with a sort > of 'why' discusion? > F5 Systems based their load balancers/switches on BSD and a follow-on company started by one of the founders (Ahaza Systems, now defunct) was going to build IPv6-aware switching gear based on FreeBSD. -- Paul Beard / 8040 27th Ave NE / Seattle WA 98115 / paulbeard [at] mac [ dot] com / 206 529 8400 weblog @ She missed an invaluable opportunity to give him a look that you could have poured on a waffle ... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 10:36:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EBDE37B401; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 10:36:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (rdu57-17-158.nc.rr.com [66.57.17.158]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27FB143E4A; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 10:36:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (shumai.marcuscom.com [192.168.1.4]) by creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gB1IYtDj008871; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 13:34:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Subject: Re: gtk12 doesn't compile From: Joe Marcus Clarke To: Ilia Chipitsine Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, ports@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD GNOME Users In-Reply-To: <20021201222245.Q66966-200000@apollo.chel.skbkontur.ru> References: <20021201222245.Q66966-200000@apollo.chel.skbkontur.ru> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-Z+fL0uKgdR3KW2QZpo8j" Organization: MarcusCom, Inc. Message-Id: <1038767765.27288.6.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.0 Date: 01 Dec 2002 13:36:06 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,IN_REP_TO,NOSPAM_INC,PGP_SIGNATURE_2,REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_03_05 version=2.43 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --=-Z+fL0uKgdR3KW2QZpo8j Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2002-12-01 at 12:25, Ilia Chipitsine wrote: Ilia, in the future, you do not need to blast email out to three different lists when you have a problem. Sending email to gtk12's maintainer, gnome@, is sufficient. > glib-1.2.10_7 > glib-1.2.10_8 > glib-1.2.8 Looks like a problem with your glib12 install. My recommendation is to remove all three of these versions, then reinstall glib12 from ports.=20 That will clean up your tree a bit, and solve your undefined symbol errors. You will also need to do a forced upgrade of gettext (from ports) to the latest version. Looks like you may have installed glib and gettext from packages. One other thing to check is to make sure your kernel and world are in sync. That is a must when trying to build ports or install packages. Joe --=20 PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc --=-Z+fL0uKgdR3KW2QZpo8j Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQA96laVb2iPiv4Uz4cRAk9FAJsFyZVE8Tr1SWh4HHhe7cMLp7c92wCfd8Lt uOg6UIBY2PsTOG/8QOeV8Gc= =sHKo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-Z+fL0uKgdR3KW2QZpo8j-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 10:44:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3771937B401; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 10:44:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from vectors.cx (manifold.vectors.cx [64.163.147.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4CDA43EC2; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 10:44:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from monkey@vectors.cx) Received: from vectors.cx (10ea4ddde9927cb34318307f618d026f@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vectors.cx (8.12.6/8.12.4) with ESMTP id gB1IkkI8075013; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 10:46:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from monkey@vectors.cx) Received: (from monkey@localhost) by vectors.cx (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gB1Ikjlj075012; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 10:46:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from monkey) Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 10:46:45 -0800 From: Adam Weinberger To: paul beard Cc: "Marc G. Fournier" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: List of big names ... Message-ID: <20021201184645.GD60177@vectors.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-action=pgp-signed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DEA5425.4050007@mac.com> X-Editor: Vim 6.1 http://www.vim.org X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5 http://www.mutt.org X-PGP-Key: http://www.vectors.cx/pgp.key.txt X-URL: http://www.vectors.cx http://www.crackula.com User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Please take this to advocacy. This banter doesn't belong on the questions list. # Adam >> (12.01.2002 @ 1025 PST): paul beard said, in 1.3K: << > Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > >Other then that I know Yahoo! uses FreeBSD ... is there a list > >that anyone is maintain about who is using it? I've been > >having discussions with a partner for awhile now about whether > >we should launch a product with a base OS of linux vs freebsd > >... and its tiring to try and argue against "but, nobody is > >accepting FreeBSD ... everyone (IBM, HP, Sun, etc) is falling > >behind Linux" ... > > > > Apple seems to think pretty highly of FreeBSD. And there are the > oft-repeated rumors that WinNT/2000/XP all use the BSD TCP stack. > > Having used both, I would never choose Linux over FreeBSD. > > >Do we have *anything* ... case studies or the like, from big > >names that have decided *for* FreeBSD over Linux, with a sort > >of 'why' discusion? > > > > F5 Systems based their load balancers/switches on BSD and a > follow-on company started by one of the founders (Ahaza Systems, > now defunct) was going to build IPv6-aware switching gear based on > FreeBSD. > > -- > Paul Beard / 8040 27th Ave NE / Seattle WA 98115 / > paulbeard [at] mac [ dot] com / 206 529 8400 > > weblog @ > > She missed an invaluable opportunity to give him a look that you could > have poured on a waffle ... > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > >> end of "Re: List of big names ..." from paul beard << - -- Adam Weinberger vectors.cx >> adam@vectors.cx FreeBSD.org << adamw@FreeBSD.ORG Bayer Berkeley >> adam.weinberger.b@bayer.com #vim:set ts=8: 8-char tabs prevent tooth decay. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE96lkVo8KM2ULHQ/0RAoSkAJ9VHv0u6N6ahmDwaDmGjGCSdG1/BQCePjaE 4DtZY1Pkdemk1n/mLi68d2k= =sAJh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 10:45:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE21B37B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 10:45:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from bellavista.cz (mail.bellavista.cz [62.168.44.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6EF543E4A for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 10:45:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from neuhauser@bellavista.cz) Received: from lilith.bellavista.cz ([10.1.0.1]) by bellavista.cz (8.9.3/8.9.8) with ESMTP id TAA14006; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 19:45:39 +0100 Received: from freepuppy.bellavista.cz (freepuppy.bellavista.cz [10.0.0.10]) by lilith.bellavista.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CD4628; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 20:43:50 +0100 (CET) Received: by freepuppy.bellavista.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 330732FDAD7; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 19:45:37 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 19:45:37 +0100 From: Roman Neuhauser To: "Philip M. Gollucci" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sendmail / Fetchmail / Procmail / Mozilla Message-ID: <20021201184537.GD86826@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> Mail-Followup-To: "Philip M. Gollucci" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <3DEA0CB4.3030204@p6m7g8.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DEA0CB4.3030204@p6m7g8.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG # philip@p6m7g8.com / 2002-12-01 13:20:52 +0000: > Please cc me on the response. Thanks. ok. > This is for a FreeBSD 5.0-DP2 irrelevant. > If I want to use fetchmail to snag email from say 4 different pop acounts > and then filter it with procmail and use mozilla to read it (which I've > read is trivial to do), what parts of sendmail (or any mta) must I > have running minimally on localhost. none. you don't need sendmail to accept mail through fetchmail (just have it store messages directly in your mailbox instead of pulling them through sendmail; you get an added bonus of preventing mail loops in case you manage to misconfigure either part), and you don't need sendmail to send mail from mozilla, as it has its own implementation of a smtp client, just like any other clickoid mail client (IOW, it bypasses the standard, which is passing the message to sendmail on the command line.) note however, that disabling sendmail completely will cripple your system in that you will no longer receive the valuable output from periodic(8) scripts, and possibly in other areas. > You can assume that this is for my person workstation and I do have root. > > While were on the sendmail thing, what exactly was the final decision on > how to turn it off completely in FreeBSD4.7-RELEASE and -CURRENT ? > (have the recent changes been MFC'ed yet) > > I've seen different answers across news groups, this list, and the > src/UPDATING file. looks like there are different ways to achieve that. /usr/src/UPDATING is the authoritative source however. > a) sendmail_enable = "NO" (or anything that isn't NONE or YES) sendmail doesn't accept mail from outside (command line submission only). > b) senmail_enable = "NONE" completely disables sendmail. > c) mta_start_script="/nonexistent" (or empty quotes) completely disables sendmail, with the possibility of you getting complaints during start. /usr/src/UPDATING says you should use "" for the value. > d) sendmail_enable="NO" > sendmail_submit_enable="NO" > sendmail_outbound_enable="NO" > sendmail_msp_queue_enable="NO" verbose way of saying sendmail_enable="NONE". the above is my understaning of the stuff in question, and I might be wrong in some details. if in doubt, consult the /etc/rc* scripts. -- If you cc me or remove the list(s) completely I'll most likely ignore your message. see http://www.eyrie.org./~eagle/faqs/questions.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 10:47:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C8DA37B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 10:47:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from webspacesolutions.com (ns.webspacesolutions.com [64.29.20.190]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9FF5143EAF for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 10:47:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ntwaddel@webspacesolutions.com) Received: (qmail 19125 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2002 18:47:40 -0000 Received: from 24-205-226-59.ata-cres.charterpipeline.net (HELO beastie) (24.205.226.59) by webspacesolutions.com with SMTP; 1 Dec 2002 18:47:40 -0000 From: "Nick Twaddell" To: Subject: ServeRAID 4Lx SCSI RAID Controller Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 09:47:43 -0800 Organization: WebSpaceSolutions Message-ID: <000501c29961$c0557a60$0700a8c0@beastie> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have an IBM rack mount server with an IBM ServeRAID 4Lx SCSI RAID Controller. I downloaded the FreeBSD 4.7 ISO, but I don't think it supports the card because it shows up as an unknown device on boot up. On http://www.tux.org/pub/bsd/freebsd/FreeBSD-current/src/share/misc/pci_ve ndors It lists the card as 020E ServeRAID 4Lx SCSI RAID Controller Is this only in FreeBSD -current possibly? The raid is going to be my boot up device, so I will need to make a bootable cd of -current. Is there an easy way to do this? What does everyone recommend? Thanks Nick Twaddell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 11:29:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B23AF37B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 11:29:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from gnome04.net.rol.ru (gnome04.net.rol.ru [194.67.1.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF8FC43E9C for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 11:29:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matrix@ipform.ru) Received: from ts29-a128.Moscow.dial.rol.ru ([212.46.252.128]:34052 "HELO homestation" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-" smtp-auth: TLS-CIPHER: TLS-PEER-CN1: ) by gnome04.net.rol.ru with SMTP id ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 22:29:14 +0300 Message-ID: <001601c2996f$f19e2cd0$0100a8c0@homestation> From: "Artem Koutchine" To: Subject: Another hardware question. Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 22:29:15 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello again. Well, people said that dual P III 550 with SDRAM is definetely slower than single P 4 3Ghz with DDR RAM. Now, a bit trickier question. Is DUAL P III 1,4Ghz with SDRAM faster than SINGLE P4 3Ghz with hyperthreading and DDR RAM (PC 3200)? How much it is slower or faster? Regards, Artem To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 11:36:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D026037B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 11:36:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from rhadamanth.submonkey.net (pc1-cdif2-5-cust47.cdf.cable.ntl.com [81.101.150.47]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BDD543EAF for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 11:36:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.10) id 18IZtZ-0001wG-00; Sun, 01 Dec 2002 19:36:49 +0000 Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 19:36:49 +0000 From: Ceri Davies To: Artem Koutchine Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Another hardware question. Message-ID: <20021201193649.GA7426@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Artem Koutchine , questions@freebsd.org References: <001601c2996f$f19e2cd0$0100a8c0@homestation> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <001601c2996f$f19e2cd0$0100a8c0@homestation> X-message-flag: All your linuxconf-configured redhat are belong to us. X-message-flag-attribution: suresh, sdm. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Dec 01, 2002 at 10:29:15PM +0300, Artem Koutchine wrote: > Hello again. > > Well, people said that dual P III 550 with SDRAM is > definetely slower than single P 4 3Ghz with DDR RAM. > > Now, a bit trickier question. > > Is DUAL P III 1,4Ghz with SDRAM faster than > SINGLE P4 3Ghz with hyperthreading and DDR RAM (PC 3200)? Ooh, yeah. > How much it is slower or faster? Seventy two. Ceri -- Gnarr! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 11:51: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B35F37B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 11:51:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp6.andrew.cmu.edu (SMTP6.andrew.cmu.edu [128.2.10.86]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB6843ECF for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 11:51:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from abender@andrew.cmu.edu) Received: from UNIX3.andrew.cmu.edu (UNIX3.andrew.cmu.edu [128.2.11.203]) (user=abender mech=KERBEROS_V4 (0 bits)) by smtp6.andrew.cmu.edu (8.12.3.Beta2/8.12.3.Beta2) with ESMTP id gB1JoxQA009797 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 14:50:59 -0500 Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 14:51:00 -0500 (EST) From: Adam Bender To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: /dev/ums0 not initialized Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG When I left for break, I had a perfectly working system (FreeBSD 4.7-CURRENT). When I came back and booted it after being down for 5 days, when I try to start KDE I get an error saying no mouse found, device at /dev/ums0 is not initialized. I'm using a Logitech USB mouse (I've also tried using it with a PS/2 converter, too). Any ideas how I can get rid of the problem and get KDE to start again? Thanks, Adam To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 11:56:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE80A37B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 11:56:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from pursued-with.net (adsl-66-125-9-242.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net [66.125.9.242]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6558C43EBE for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 11:56:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Kevin_Stevens@pursued-with.net) Received: from pursued-with.net (fffinch [192.168.168.101]) by pursued-with.net (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB1JuGAF037724; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 11:56:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Kevin_Stevens@pursued-with.net) Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 11:56:16 -0800 Subject: Re: Another hardware question. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v548) Cc: To: "Artem Koutchine" From: Kevin Stevens In-Reply-To: <001601c2996f$f19e2cd0$0100a8c0@homestation> Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.548) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday, Dec 1, 2002, at 11:29 US/Pacific, Artem Koutchine wrote: > Hello again. > > Well, people said that dual P III 550 with SDRAM is > definetely slower than single P 4 3Ghz with DDR RAM. > > Now, a bit trickier question. > > Is DUAL P III 1,4Ghz with SDRAM faster than > SINGLE P4 3Ghz with hyperthreading and DDR RAM (PC 3200)? > How much it is slower or faster? Q: Which is faster, a Ferrari or a Yugo? A: How heavy is the traffic? These are essentially unanswerable questions that depend very largely on your application suite. Moreover, the only part that's specifically relevant to FreeBSD is the CPU type architecture; the difference between P3 and P4 support/optimization and support for hyperthreading. You need to do some testing on your own; at least to identify the bottleneck in your existing installation. KeS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 12: 3:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E289F37B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 12:03:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from sub21-156.member.dsl-only.net (sub21-156.member.dsl-only.net [63.105.21.156]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C1B743EAF for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 12:03:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nkinkade@sub21-156.member.dsl-only.net) Received: from nkinkade by sub21-156.member.dsl-only.net with local (Exim 4.10) id 18IaJC-000092-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 01 Dec 2002 12:03:18 -0800 Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 12:03:18 -0800 From: Nathan Kinkade To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sendmail / Fetchmail / Procmail / Mozilla Message-ID: <20021201200318.GA467@sub21-156.member.dsl-only.net> Reply-To: nkinkade@dsl-only.net Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <3DEA0CB4.3030204@p6m7g8.com> <20021201184537.GD86826@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021201184537.GD86826@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Dec 01, 2002 at 07:45:37PM +0100, Roman Neuhauser wrote: > > If I want to use fetchmail to snag email from say 4 different pop acounts > > and then filter it with procmail and use mozilla to read it (which I've > > read is trivial to do), what parts of sendmail (or any mta) must I > > have running minimally on localhost. > > none. you don't need sendmail to accept mail through fetchmail (just > have it store messages directly in your mailbox instead of pulling > them through sendmail; you get an added bonus of preventing mail > loops in case you manage to misconfigure either part), and you don't > need sendmail to send mail from mozilla, as it has its own > implementation of a smtp client, just like any other clickoid mail > client (IOW, it bypasses the standard, which is passing the message > to sendmail on the command line.) > > note however, that disabling sendmail completely will cripple your > system in that you will no longer receive the valuable output from > periodic(8) scripts, and possibly in other areas. Why would disabling sendmail cripple all of the periodic scripts? Other than those scripts that relate specifically to an MTA, which others would be affected? Also, if you have another MTA just edit /etc/mail/mailer.conf to point to your new MTA, as the various invocations of sendmail are just wrappers that use the mailer.conf file to determine exactly what they should be executing. I recently left sendmail in favour of Exim. A few tweaks to mailer.conf and one or two minor changes to a few of the periodic scripts and everything is in order. Nathan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 12:21:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D27BE37B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 12:21:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from post-21.mail.nl.demon.net (post-21.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CC9E43E4A for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 12:21:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cls@raggedclown.net) Received: from [212.238.197.102] (helo=mailhost.raggedclown.net) by post-21.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 18IabB-000NVg-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 01 Dec 2002 20:21:53 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhost.raggedclown.net (Ragged Clown Mail Gateway [dawn]) with ESMTP id A0AE5F55 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 21:21:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from willow.raggedclown.net (willow.raggedclown.intra [192.168.1.10]) by mailhost.raggedclown.net (Ragged Clown Mail Gateway [dawn]) with ESMTP id BB2B9F46 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 21:21:40 +0100 (CET) Received: by willow.raggedclown.net (Ragged Clown Host [willow], from userid 1009) id BEF4B22596; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 21:21:41 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 21:21:41 +0100 From: Cliff Sarginson To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: List of big names ... Message-ID: <20021201202141.GB343@raggedclown.net> References: <20021201023429.G6214-100000@hub.org> <3DE9B374.9080700@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DE9B374.9080700@mac.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS 0.3.12pre8 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Nov 30, 2002 at 11:00:04PM -0800, paul beard wrote: > Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > >Other then that I know Yahoo! uses FreeBSD ... is there a list > >that anyone > >is maintain about who is using it? I've been having discussions > >with a > >partner for awhile now about whether we should launch a product > >with a > >base OS of linux vs freebsd ... and its tiring to try and argue > >against > >"but, nobody is accepting FreeBSD ... everyone (IBM, HP, Sun, > >etc) is > >falling behind Linux" ... > > All those unique special effects in The Maltrix were helped along by FreeBSD based computers...:) -- Regards Cliff Sarginson The Netherlands [ This mail has been checked as virus-free ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 12:26:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD13037B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 12:26:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.gbronline.com (mail.gbronline.com [12.145.226.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D74E43E88 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 12:26:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from DaleCoportable [207.191.248.11] by mail.gbronline.com (SMTPD32-7.13) id AFE324D2023C; Sun, 01 Dec 2002 14:24:03 -0600 Message-ID: <00f801c29977$595fbe40$fa00a8c0@DaleCoportable> From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." To: "Nick Twaddell" , References: <000501c29961$c0557a60$0700a8c0@beastie> Subject: Re: ServeRAID 4Lx SCSI RAID Controller Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 14:22:18 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Twaddell" To: Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 11:47 AM Subject: ServeRAID 4Lx SCSI RAID Controller > It lists the card as > 020E ServeRAID 4Lx SCSI RAID Controller > > Is this only in FreeBSD -current possibly? > I think so. Grep this week's archive, I think I just saw a post on this device within the last 3-4 days. > The raid is going to be my boot up device, so I will need to make a > bootable cd of -current. Is there an easy way to do this? What does > everyone recommend? > You might look into the "release" target for the make command. > Thanks > > Nick Twaddell > HTH, Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 12:35:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B15A237B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 12:35:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from post-20.mail.nl.demon.net (post-20.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E696643E88 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 12:35:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cls@raggedclown.net) Received: from [212.238.197.102] (helo=mailhost.raggedclown.net) by post-20.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 18Iao9-0007Cg-00 for FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 01 Dec 2002 20:35:18 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhost.raggedclown.net (Ragged Clown Mail Gateway [dawn]) with ESMTP id 7CCAACD8 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 21:35:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from willow.raggedclown.net (willow.raggedclown.intra [192.168.1.10]) by mailhost.raggedclown.net (Ragged Clown Mail Gateway [dawn]) with ESMTP id 27E8BC76 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 21:35:05 +0100 (CET) Received: by willow.raggedclown.net (Ragged Clown Host [willow], from userid 1009) id 117F622596; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 21:35:06 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 21:35:06 +0100 From: Cliff Sarginson To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: interpretation of arp output Message-ID: <20021201203506.GA1424@raggedclown.net> References: <20021129054715.GA869@raggedclown.net> <20021129092555.GA64345@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021129092555.GA64345@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophi> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS 0.3.12pre8 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 09:25:55AM +0000, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 06:47:15AM +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote: > > An arp -a gives the following line (amongst many happy bunnies) > > > > angelus.raggedclown.intra (192.168.1.50) at 00:a0:cc:d1:fb:88 on rl0 > > [ethernet] > > ? (192.168.1.255) at ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff on rl0 permanent [ethernet] > > That's quite normal. Some process is sending out packets to your > network broadcast address. You can investigate what with tcpdump: > > tcpdump -i rl0 ip broadcast > tcpdump -i rl0 ether broadcast > > > Can someone explain this to me .. the line with the "?" obviously. > > Whether it is relevant or not the line above represents a Windows > > XP system that does not get run very often (which means it may always > > be there, but I have never noticed it). > > No: the entries in the arp table are just ordered by IP number. > The machine 'angelus' just happens to be the next highest IP number > active on your network. > > The '?' just means that the system can't resolve that IP number into a > hostname. You can add entries for 192.168.1.255 to your /etc/hosts or > your DNS so that arp will have something to print out if you want. > Ok, thanks, I think it was the "?" that made me ask. Question marks make me nervous :) -- Regards Cliff Sarginson The Netherlands [ This mail has been checked as virus-free ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 12:37:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8116037B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 12:37:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.comcast.net (smtp.comcast.net [24.153.64.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECDED43E4A for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 12:37:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from philip@p6m7g8.com) Received: from p6m7g8.com (pcp699707pcs.hyatsv01.md.comcast.net [68.50.173.216]) by mtaout06.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.05 (built Nov 6 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H6G00H0OJR6GR@mtaout06.icomcast.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 01 Dec 2002 15:33:06 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 15:33:04 +0000 From: "Philip M. Gollucci" Subject: Mail Reader Clients To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <3DEA2BB0.4010001@p6m7g8.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.2b) Gecko/20021126 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Please CC me on the reply again. Thanks. I'm looking for a good graphical mail reader client (to handle appx 3000 mails per day) I've got mail my mail working with fetchmail/procmail, so I don't need one with filtering. Just one that understands mbox format. I don't think I want to use mozilla/netscape as its too bulky. I do like FirstClass, but I have no idea of its status on FreeBSD. mutt/pine are good, but not quite as graphical as I want. If it matters, by WM is afterstep. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 12:37:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EE9937B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 12:37:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from nollie.summersault.com (nollie.summersault.com [208.10.44.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 518A743EE5 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 12:37:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark-dated-1039639052.b40707@summersault.com) Received: (qmail 54808 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2002 20:37:32 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO nollie.summersault.com) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Dec 2002 20:37:32 -0000 Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 15:37:29 -0500 (EST) To: Adam Bender Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /dev/ums0 not initialized In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: Mark Stosberg X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/0.65 (Johnstown) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 1 Dec 2002, Adam Bender wrote: > > When I left for break, I had a perfectly working system (FreeBSD > 4.7-CURRENT). When I came back and booted it after being down for 5 days, > when I try to start KDE I get an error saying no mouse found, device > at /dev/ums0 is not initialized. I'm using a Logitech USB mouse (I've > also tried using it with a PS/2 converter, too). Any ideas how I can > get rid of the problem and get KDE to start again? As root, try running /stand/syinstall , then select "Configure" and then "Mouse". It should help you configure and test your mouse interactively. -mark http://mark.stosberg.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 12:39:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F17137B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 12:39:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from nollie.summersault.com (nollie.summersault.com [208.10.44.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A32C643E4A for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 12:39:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark-dated-1039639162.702bbb@summersault.com) Received: (qmail 54944 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2002 20:39:22 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO nollie.summersault.com) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Dec 2002 20:39:22 -0000 Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 15:39:18 -0500 (EST) To: "Philip M. Gollucci" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mail Reader Clients In-Reply-To: <3DEA2BB0.4010001@p6m7g8.com> Message-ID: References: <3DEA2BB0.4010001@p6m7g8.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: Mark Stosberg X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/0.65 (Johnstown) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 1 Dec 2002, Philip M. Gollucci wrote: > > I'm looking for a good graphical mail reader client (to handle appx 3000 > mails per day) > I've got mail my mail working with fetchmail/procmail, so I don't need > one with filtering. Just one that > understands mbox format. Kmail and Knode (for news) seem to be really slick. I believe they are a part of the "kdenetwork" module in the KDE project. -mark http://mark.stosberg.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 12:42:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5B2137B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 12:42:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.liwing.de (mail.liwing.de [213.70.188.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1998F43EB2 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 12:42:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rehsack@liwing.de) Received: (qmail 53372 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2002 20:42:41 -0000 Received: from stingray.liwing.de (HELO liwing.de) ([213.70.188.164]) (envelope-sender ) by mail.liwing.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 1 Dec 2002 20:42:41 -0000 Message-ID: <3DEA7466.7050305@liwing.de> Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 21:43:18 +0100 From: Jens Rehsack Organization: LiWing IT-Services User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ilia Chipitsine Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports-multimedia ? References: <20021201195032.D45581-100000@apollo.chel.skbkontur.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ilia Chipitsine wrote: >>Ilia Chipitsine wrote: >> >>>Dear Sirs, >>> >>>I've found that avifile moved from graphics to multimedia, >>>but I cannot cvsup it. Is it right ? Where I can cvsup ports-multimedia >>>collection ? Even when I do "ports-all", multimedia is not included! >>> >>>Regards, (îÁÉÌÕÞÛÉÅ ÐÏÖÅÌÁÎÉÑ) >>>Ilia Chipitsine (éÌØÑ ûÉÐÉÃÉÎ) >>> >> >>Sure that your cvsupfile get's the most up-to-date version of the ports >>tree? Maybe you just cvsup'ing against a release version. > > > sure. Can you send me your cvsupfile, please. > >>Jens >>-- >>L i W W W i Jens Rehsack >>L W W W >>L i W W W W i nnn gggg LiWing IT-Services >>L i W W W W i n n g g >>LLLL i W W i n n g g Friesenstra?e 2 >> gggg 06112 Halle >> g >> g g >>Tel.: +49 - 3 45 - 5 17 05 91 ggg e-Mail: >>Fax: +49 - 3 45 - 5 17 05 92 http://www.liwing.de/ >> >> > > > > -- L i W W W i Jens Rehsack L W W W L i W W W W i nnn gggg LiWing IT-Services L i W W W W i n n g g LLLL i W W i n n g g Friesenstra?e 2 gggg 06112 Halle g g g Tel.: +49 - 3 45 - 5 17 05 91 ggg e-Mail: Fax: +49 - 3 45 - 5 17 05 92 http://www.liwing.de/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 12:47:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 343B237B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 12:47:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from post-20.mail.nl.demon.net (post-20.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6728643E88 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 12:47:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cls@raggedclown.net) Received: from [212.238.197.102] (helo=mailhost.raggedclown.net) by post-20.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 18Iazg-0007ZS-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 01 Dec 2002 20:47:12 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhost.raggedclown.net (Ragged Clown Mail Gateway [dawn]) with ESMTP id 1E637CD8 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 21:47:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from willow.raggedclown.net (willow.raggedclown.intra [192.168.1.10]) by mailhost.raggedclown.net (Ragged Clown Mail Gateway [dawn]) with ESMTP id 89132C76 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 21:46:59 +0100 (CET) Received: by willow.raggedclown.net (Ragged Clown Host [willow], from userid 1009) id 922E522596; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 21:47:00 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 21:47:00 +0100 From: Cliff Sarginson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Memory test? Message-ID: <20021201204700.GB1424@raggedclown.net> References: <200211291228.GATCSZI18555@asarian-host.net> <44vg2dq522.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <200212011418.GB1EIVI40435@asarian-host.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200212011418.GB1EIVI40435@asarian-host.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS 0.3.12pre8 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Dec 01, 2002 at 03:18:26PM +0100, Mark wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lowell Gilbert" > To: "Mark" > Cc: > Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 1:47 PM > Subject: Re: Memory test? > > > > Mark writes: > > > > > I just did a makeshift memory stress test on a new machine; that is, > > > I did a "make buildworld". Regrettably, it failed, saying it had a > syntax > > > error somewhere. :( > > > > > > So, I ran it again; and this time it went fine; then I reinstalled > > > FreeBSD 4.7 altogether, and rebuilt world again. And, again, > > > no problems. > > > > > > This is a bit worrysome. Does FreeBSD even notice bad memory? > > > Would the kernel put a message in /var/log/messages? It did not > > > show anything there when buildworld failed. > > > > I'm not sure what you're getting at. You've seen just one failure, > > and it is of a type that is highly unlikely to be memory-related. > > > Au contraire; a syntax error in a "make buildworld" that cannot be repeated > when issued again is almost always indicative of a memory error -- > especially with a new out of box FreeBSD 4.7R -- and is generally considered > a good memory stress test. > > I was rightly alerted to a memory error. I ran Memtest86, suggested by a > list-member here, and indeed, one of the Kingston 512M DIMM's was acting up. > I did some research; and Kingston memory appears to have known issues with > the ASUS A7V333 board. > As an aside, memtest *can* show false positivies on some Asus motherboards with AMD chips. Tests 5 and 7 are not to be trusted. I found this out by own observations, and I believe (although I cannot remember where I read it) that tests 5 and 7 can be a bit iffy. The memory in question when in use and under stress showed no memory typical problems at all. The same memory tested on a system with a Pentium III also showed no failures with repeated running of these particular tests. -- Regards Cliff Sarginson The Netherlands [ This mail has been checked as virus-free ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 12:50:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09F6837B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 12:50:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mout0.freenet.de (mout0.freenet.de [194.97.50.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 589F643EA9 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 12:50:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from backspace@freenet.de) Received: from [194.97.55.147] (helo=mx4.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with asmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18Ib2d-0003LG-00; Sun, 01 Dec 2002 21:50:15 +0100 Received: from xdsl-213-168-111-225.netcologne.de ([213.168.111.225] helo=[192.168.1.50]) by mx4.freenet.de with asmtp (ID doobedoo@freenet.de) (Exim 4.10 #1) id 18Ib2c-0007CX-00; Sun, 01 Dec 2002 21:50:14 +0100 Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 21:49:57 +0100 (CET) From: Georg Klein To: "Philip M. Gollucci" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, Subject: Re: Mail Reader Clients In-Reply-To: <3DEA2BB0.4010001@p6m7g8.com> Message-ID: <20021201214532.Q359-100000@newton.gkln.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 1 Dec 2002, Philip M. Gollucci wrote: > Please CC me on the reply again. Thanks. > I'm looking for a good graphical mail reader client (to handle appx 3000 > mails per day) > I've got mail my mail working with fetchmail/procmail, so I don't need > one with filtering. Just one that > understands mbox format. > > If it matters, by WM is afterstep. Have a look at sylpheed, http://sylpheed.good-day.net/. -Georg -- Georg Klein backspace@freenet.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 12:54:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A75E37B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 12:54:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from server.rucus.ru.ac.za (server.rucus.ru.ac.za [146.231.115.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3BC8D43ECF for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 12:54:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from drs@rucus.ru.ac.za) Received: (qmail 44680 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2002 20:54:07 -0000 Received: from bashir.dsl.ru.ac.za (146.231.113.19) by server.rucus.ru.ac.za with SMTP; 1 Dec 2002 20:54:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 5587 invoked by uid 1001); 1 Dec 2002 20:54:07 -0000 Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 22:54:07 +0200 From: David =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sieb=F6rger?= To: Nick Twaddell Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ServeRAID 4Lx SCSI RAID Controller Message-ID: <20021201205407.GA5566@rucus.net> References: <000501c29961$c0557a60$0700a8c0@beastie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <000501c29961$c0557a60$0700a8c0@beastie> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 7:47 PM on Sunday 1 December 2002, Nick Twaddell wrote: > I have an IBM rack mount server with an IBM ServeRAID 4Lx SCSI RAID > Controller. I downloaded the FreeBSD 4.7 ISO, but I don't think it > supports the card because it shows up as an unknown device on boot up. That's correct - FreeBSD doesn't have a ServeRAID driver. http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=726088+0+archive/2002/freebsd-stable/20021201.freebsd-stable -- David Siebörger drs@rucus.ru.ac.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 15: 8:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 448DB37B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 15:08:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from homer.bignose.ca (static-89-42.dsl.tht.net [216.126.89.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B6A6F43EAF for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 15:08:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff@interchange.ca) Received: (qmail 19467 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2002 23:08:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO jeffmfgsfzhqjc) (192.168.0.2) by 192.168.0.1 with SMTP; 1 Dec 2002 23:08:03 -0000 From: "Jeff MacDonald" To: Subject: rndc-conf is freezing.. Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 18:08:44 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've read a few threads that say rndc-confgen may freeze because /dev/random isnt' random enough. I've set the rand_irqs in rc.conf, as well hammered on the keyboard some while rndc-confgen is runnning and it still sits there. anyone know what can be done? I have bind9 running fine, but if i update anything i have to do a kill/named to read config changes. which is less than elegant ;) thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 15:23:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8201737B401; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 15:23:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net (harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 226D143ED4; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 15:23:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0208.cvx22-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.198.208] helo=mindspring.com) by harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18IdQz-0003Nz-00; Sun, 01 Dec 2002 15:23:33 -0800 Message-ID: <3DEA99A6.ED08AD2F@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 15:22:14 -0800 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Weinberger Cc: paul beard , "Marc G. Fournier" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: List of big names ... References: <20021201184645.GD60177@vectors.cx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Adam Weinberger wrote: > Please take this to advocacy. This banter doesn't belong on the > questions list. FWIW: If you examine the history of this thread, you will see that it was posted to -questions, and "Bcc:"'ed to -advocacy. If you need to assign blame, assign it to the original poster, which the headers claim is "Marc G. 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Gollucci" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mail Reader Clients Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 11:47:51 +1100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.4] References: <3DEA2BB0.4010001@p6m7g8.com> In-Reply-To: <3DEA2BB0.4010001@p6m7g8.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200212021147.51394.jrhoden@unimelb.edu.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 2 Dec 2002 02:33, Philip M. Gollucci wrote: > I'm looking for a good graphical mail reader client (to handle appx 300= 0 > mails per day) kmail is definatly the best 'gui' email client i have seen so far, its vu= agely=20 similar to eudora... but it does mean you must have kde installed. if you= =20 dont mind running kde for the mail client then i reccomend that.=20 (incidentally the reason i stayed with kde after installing kde, is becau= se=20 the mail client is briliant!) Regards, Jacob Jacob Rhoden Phone: +61 3 8344 6102 ITS Division Email: jrhoden@unimelb.edu.au Melbourne University Mobile: +61 403 788 386 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 16:59: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D980637B401; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 16:58:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from chat.ru (d240.p7.col.ru [212.248.6.240]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2875643ECD; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 16:58:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from 123@123.ru) From: 123@123.ru <123@123.ru> Subject: Ðàñïðîäàæà êàëüêóëÿòîðîâ è çàïèñíûõ êíèæåê Citizen X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 03:58:57 +0300 Message-Id: <20021202005848.2875643ECD@mx1.FreeBSD.org> To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Íîâîãîäíÿÿ ðàñïðîäàæà! 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 16:59: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECE7237B40C; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 16:58:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from chat.ru (d240.p7.col.ru [212.248.6.240]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3C2D843ED1; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 16:58:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from 123@123.ru) From: 123@123.ru <123@123.ru> Subject: Ðàñïðîäàæà êàëüêóëÿòîðîâ è çàïèñíûõ êíèæåê Citizen X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 03:58:57 +0300 Message-Id: <20021202005848.3C2D843ED1@mx1.FreeBSD.org> To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Íîâîãîäíÿÿ ðàñïðîäàæà! 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 17:12:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1813437B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 17:12:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns.itga.com.au (ns.itga.com.au [202.53.40.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9230543EB2 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 17:12:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by ns.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA56060 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 12:12:33 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA25189; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 12:12:33 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <200212020112.MAA25189@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.4 05/15/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 From: Gregory Bond To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: debugging wheel mouse Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 12:12:33 +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've solved the problem. If you configure XFree86 to use "Protocol sysmouse" then wheel scrolling will not work, because this puts the mouse into 5-byte mode which only supports 3 buttons. You have to use "protocol auto" in the XFree86 config to enable sysmouse 8-byte protocol with support for buttons 4 & 5. This is not mentioned anywhere that I can find. I'll get the FAQ updated. Debugging was a pain, basically I ran kdump on the X server and looked at the I/O from the mouse device, then had a read of the appropriate machine/mouse.h header and discovered that the 5-byte protocol was not good enough. A lot more fiddling and trial-and-error produced the fix. Greg. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 17:14:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40D4137B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 17:14:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from athlon.jp.dhs.org (jp.dhs.org [213.84.189.153]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E93543E4A for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 17:14:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jp@athlon.jp.dhs.org) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=athlon.jp.dhs.org ident=jp) by athlon.jp.dhs.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18IfAH-00041D-00 for ; Mon, 02 Dec 2002 02:14:25 +0100 Message-ID: <3DEAB3F1.C5C41519@athlon.jp.dhs.org> Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 02:14:25 +0100 From: Jan Pieter Organization: Badly Configured Clients, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.20 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG test To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 17:53:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BEE037B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 17:53:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from nollie.summersault.com (nollie.summersault.com [208.10.44.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5CF9B43ECF for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 17:53:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark-dated-1039657989.dd25f1@summersault.com) Received: (qmail 73707 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2002 01:53:13 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO nollie.summersault.com) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Dec 2002 01:53:13 -0000 Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 20:53:06 -0500 (EST) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: requesting help restoring disklabel on unbootable system In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: Mark Stosberg X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/0.65 (Johnstown) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 1 Dec 2002, Mark Stosberg wrote: > On Sun, 1 Dec 2002, Mark Stosberg wrote: > > > > After an unfortunate sequence of events, my newly successfully upgraded FreeBSD 4.7 > > machine would not boot anymore and gave me a "boot:" prompt. Returning > > to the install CD disklabel program, I saw that the only partition it > > seemed be to finding was the swap partition. > > > > I recreated and wrote to disk what I thought was the old disk > > partitioning scheme (being careful not to newfs anything). After that, > > the system would boot off the drive, but would not mount /usr, /var or > > /tmp due to complains of "bad super block: magic number wrong". I > > suspect that I guessed my partition sizes wrong. > > I have a lead on solving this now. I found a tool called "find-sb" > which finds superblocks, and seemed like it could be used to make a > smarter guess about what my partition sizes should be. The trouble is, > now I'm scratching my head about how to this tool installed in a useable > state on the system since I can't boot fully in the first place. > > "find-sb": > http://gatekeeper.dec.com/pub/BSD/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/src/tools/tools/find-sb/ I downloaded "find-sb" and the associated Makefile, but running "make" failed with many errors on FreeBSD 4.7. I eventually addressed the issue by installing 4.7 on a new disk and restoring from backup. I still have the old disk at this point if any one has ideas how to make it functional again. -mark http://mark.stosberg.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 18:13:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C96937B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 18:13:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp-send.myrealbox.com (smtp-send.myrealbox.com [192.108.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25B5343EAF for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 18:13:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mekani@myrealbox.com) Received: from hal9000.hal mekani@smtp-send.myrealbox.com [213.137.117.104] by smtp-send.myrealbox.com with NetMail SMTP Agent $Revision: 3.16 $ on Novell NetWare; Sun, 01 Dec 2002 19:13:33 -0700 Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 14:57:25 +0100 From: Meka [ni] To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: aterm Message-Id: <20021201145725.69086bba.mekani@myrealbox.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.5claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; ) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG How can I make aterm recognize , and as it should? key acts as , and other two give me '~' sign. Those keys are working perfectly in xterm, so it's not X configurations. And how to make it not clear the screen after exiting man page? ________ Meka[ni] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 18:35:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47FA737B401; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 18:35:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from sol.chel.skbkontur.ru (sol.chel.skbkontur.ru [212.57.175.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 117AB43EA9; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 18:35:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ilia@chel.skbkontur.ru) Received: from apollo.chel.skbkontur.ru (apollo.chel.skbkontur.ru [192.168.100.20]) by sol.chel.skbkontur.ru (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gB22ZguR033550; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 07:35:42 +0500 (YEKT) (envelope-from ilia@chel.skbkontur.ru) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 07:36:12 +0500 (YEKT) From: Ilia Chipitsine To: Jens Rehsack Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, Subject: Re: ports-multimedia ? In-Reply-To: <3DEA7466.7050305@liwing.de> Message-ID: <20021202073519.O99575-100000@apollo.chel.skbkontur.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > >>> > >> > >>Sure that your cvsupfile get's the most up-to-date version of the ports > >>tree? Maybe you just cvsup'ing against a release version. > > > > > > sure. > > Can you send me your cvsupfile, please. > *default host=cvsup4.ru.freebsd.org *default base=/home *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=. *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress ports-base ports-multimedia To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 18:47:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB65237B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 18:47:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from vectors.cx (manifold.vectors.cx [64.163.147.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A5EC43EC5 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 18:47:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from monkey@vectors.cx) Received: from vectors.cx (03c3affc6d3fd4a01518300a5ce57c3f@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vectors.cx (8.12.6/8.12.4) with ESMTP id gB22oBI8076347; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 18:50:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from monkey@vectors.cx) Received: (from monkey@localhost) by vectors.cx (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gB22oAKM076346; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 18:50:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from monkey) Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 18:50:10 -0800 From: Adam Weinberger To: Gregory Bond Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: debugging wheel mouse Message-ID: <20021202025010.GH60177@vectors.cx> Mail-Followup-To: Adam Weinberger , Gregory Bond , questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200212020112.MAA25189@lightning.itga.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-action=pgp-signed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200212020112.MAA25189@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Editor: Vim 6.1 http://www.vim.org X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5 http://www.mutt.org X-PGP-Key: http://www.vectors.cx/pgp.key.txt X-URL: http://www.vectors.cx http://www.crackula.com User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 >> (12.01.2002 @ 1712 PST): Gregory Bond said, in 0.8K: << > You have to use "protocol auto" in the XFree86 config to enable > sysmouse 8-byte protocol with support for buttons 4 & 5. > > This is not mentioned anywhere that I can find. I'll get the FAQ updated. >> end of "Re: debugging wheel mouse" from Gregory Bond << I disagree. The necessity of "protocol auto" is documented all the heck over the place, from the Handbook to the FAQ to the README.mouse file that comes with X itself. # Adam - -- Adam Weinberger vectors.cx >> adam@vectors.cx FreeBSD.org << adamw@FreeBSD.ORG Bayer Berkeley >> adam.weinberger.b@bayer.com #vim:set ts=8: 8-char tabs prevent tooth decay. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE96spio8KM2ULHQ/0RAsxPAJ9EaN6fFRtJMZUZ5s8j0iRgXJbGmwCdHQZn IOWAnl+zao9qHvUgzvrLCbw= =TvJo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 19: 9:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3197E37B404 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 19:09:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.liwing.de (mail.liwing.de [213.70.188.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43E7843ECD for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 19:09:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rehsack@liwing.de) Received: (qmail 46094 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2002 03:09:37 -0000 Received: from stingray.liwing.de (HELO liwing.de) ([213.70.188.164]) (envelope-sender ) by mail.liwing.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 2 Dec 2002 03:09:37 -0000 Message-ID: <3DEACF15.5030908@liwing.de> Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 04:10:13 +0100 From: Jens Rehsack Organization: LiWing IT-Services User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ilia Chipitsine Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports-multimedia ? References: <20021202073519.O99575-100000@apollo.chel.skbkontur.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ilia Chipitsine wrote: >>>>Sure that your cvsupfile get's the most up-to-date version of the ports >>>>tree? Maybe you just cvsup'ing against a release version. >>> >>> >>>sure. >> >>Can you send me your cvsupfile, please. >> > > > *default host=cvsup4.ru.freebsd.org > *default base=/home > *default prefix=/usr > *default release=cvs tag=. > *default delete use-rel-suffix > > *default compress > > ports-base > ports-multimedia Hm, I do not understand why you do not update you entire ports and if the problem you detect has sth. to with it. I compared your cvsupfile to mine and detect that I use (to keep 4-STABLE in sync): *default tag=RELENG_4 *default host=cvsup2.de.FreeBSD.org *default prefix=/usr *default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix compress src-all doc-all ports-all tag=. You may see the difference to your tag definition. I recomment at first to write your wanted tag to a single line as I do. If that wouldn't help (but I'm sure you tried), delete your ports/multimedia and cvsup again. If that wont work, try to get ports-all and define a refuse file (${BASE}/sup/refuse). Hope any of that helps, Jens -- L i W W W i Jens Rehsack L W W W L i W W W W i nnn gggg LiWing IT-Services L i W W W W i n n g g LLLL i W W i n n g g Friesenstraße 2 gggg 06112 Halle g g g Tel.: +49 - 3 45 - 5 17 05 91 ggg e-Mail: Fax: +49 - 3 45 - 5 17 05 92 http://www.liwing.de/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 19:10:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4058137B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 19:10:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from its-mail1.massey.ac.nz (its-mail1.massey.ac.nz [130.123.128.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EBB343E9C for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 19:10:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from G.P.Defryn@massey.ac.nz) Received: from its-mm1.massey.ac.nz (its-mm1.massey.ac.nz [130.123.128.45]) by its-mail1.massey.ac.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA27548 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 16:10:11 +1300 (NZDT) Received: from its-xchg2.massey.ac.nz (Not Verified[130.123.128.28]) by its-mm1.massey.ac.nz with MailMarshal id ; Mon, 02 Dec 2002 16:10:11 +1300 Received: by its-xchg2.massey.ac.nz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55) id ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 16:10:11 +1300 Message-ID: <98B01D2717B9D411B38F0008C7840931057F3D94@its-xchg2.massey.ac.nz> From: "Defryn, Guy" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Book:Freebsd-The complete reference (osbourne) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 16:10:11 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I was wondering if anyone got to proofread this book? What is it like? Cheers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 19:17:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 788DD37B401; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 19:17:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns.itga.com.au (ns.itga.com.au [202.53.40.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C96E343EC5; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 19:17:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by ns.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA56496; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 14:17:37 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA17118; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 14:17:37 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <200212020317.OAA17118@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.4 05/15/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 From: Gregory Bond To: Adam Weinberger Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: debugging wheel mouse In-reply-to: Your message of Sun, 01 Dec 2002 18:50:10 -0800. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 14:17:37 +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I disagree. The necessity of "protocol auto" is documented all the heck > over the place, from the Handbook to the FAQ to the README.mouse file > that comes with X itself. Well, I spent a week or so reading the FAQ, searching the mail lists, reading man pages and never saw the fact that "protocol auto" gave different results to "protocol sysmouse" mentioned - nor the fact that although "protocol auto" reports it is using "sysmouse", it is not the same. That is just plain confusing and should be prominently mentioned. I never saw any such mention, despite plenty of effort to solve this problem, so I reckon it needs better documenting. And, README.mouse says, >3.3 FreeBSD > >FreeBSD supports the "SysMouse" protocol which must be specified when the >moused daemon is running in versions 2.2.1 or later. > >When running the mouseddaemon, you must always specify the /dev/sysmouse >device and the "SysMouse" protocol to the X server, regardless of the actual >type of your mouse. which actually tells you to do the +wrong+ thing. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 19:36:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2711C37B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 19:36:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp7.andrew.cmu.edu (SMTP7.andrew.cmu.edu [128.2.10.87]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FFB843EB2 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 19:36:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from abender@andrew.cmu.edu) Received: from UNIX2.andrew.cmu.edu (UNIX2.andrew.cmu.edu [128.2.11.202]) (user=abender mech=KERBEROS_V4 (0 bits)) by smtp7.andrew.cmu.edu (8.12.3.Beta2/8.12.3.Beta2) with ESMTP id gB23amBI014624; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 22:36:48 -0500 Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 22:36:47 -0500 (EST) From: Adam Bender To: Mark Stosberg Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /dev/ums0 not initialized In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG That didn't work, I get the same error. What I have gotten to work is using it in the PS/2 port and setting the X mouse device to /dev/psm0. Any idea why it doesn't work with USB anymore? Thanks, Adam On Sun, 1 Dec 2002, Mark Stosberg wrote: > On Sun, 1 Dec 2002, Adam Bender wrote: > > > > > When I left for break, I had a perfectly working system (FreeBSD > > 4.7-CURRENT). When I came back and booted it after being down for 5 days, > > when I try to start KDE I get an error saying no mouse found, device > > at /dev/ums0 is not initialized. I'm using a Logitech USB mouse (I've > > also tried using it with a PS/2 converter, too). Any ideas how I can > > get rid of the problem and get KDE to start again? > > As root, try running /stand/syinstall , then select "Configure" and then > "Mouse". It should help you configure and test your mouse interactively. > > -mark > > http://mark.stosberg.com/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 19:56: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD2F737B443 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 19:56:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from go4.ext.ti.com (go4.ext.ti.com [192.91.75.132]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38BA243EB2 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 19:56:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gauthamg123list@myrealbox.com) Received: from dlep50.itg.ti.com ([157.170.141.74]) by go4.ext.ti.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gB23tsJY025985; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 21:55:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from dlep50.itg.ti.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dlep50.itg.ti.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id gB23trnG021518; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 21:55:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from popsvr.india.ti.com (popsvr.india.ti.com [157.87.95.215]) by dlep50.itg.ti.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id gB23tp1V021503; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 21:55:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from gautham ([192.168.185.126]) by popsvr.india.ti.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA03287; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 09:25:46 +0530 (IST) Reply-To: From: "Gautham Ganapathy" To: "Laszlo Vagner" Cc: "Questions @ FreeBSD" Subject: RE: nVidia drivers w/ 4.7-RELEASE Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 09:25:14 +0530 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <3DDD6DAA.7000108@vagner.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Friday, November 22, 2002 5:05 AM, Laszlo Vagner wrote > > lewiz wrote: > > >On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 08:25:39AM +0530, Gautham Ganapathy wrote: > > > > > >>Will the nvidia drivers work with 4.7-RELEASE? 4.7-STABLE won't have > >>ISOs, right? > >> > >> > > > >You need 4.7-STABLE to get the NVidia drivers working. I don't know > >exactly what -RELEASE is missing but I'm quite sure. There are still > >problems with them (they hang my machine all the time) so be prepared > >for trouble. > > > >-lewiz. > > > > > > > Yes I just installed the nvidia drivers for my TI 4200 card and > ymessenger crashes the machine, > it just makes some clicking sounds from the sound card and > then reboots > without syncing disks. > > I am running Xfree 4.2.0_1, libraries 4.2.1_3, server 4.2.1_5 and > client 4.2.1_2 this is greater than > required by the nvidia instructions. The driver did get rid of the > missing pixels in the xterm window > but you cant use the machine reliable anymore. > > I am getting this error in netscape now also, "translation > table unknown > keysym name somekeyname" > I tried deinstalling it and reinstalling 4.8 without change. > > next is to change the xserver driver and see if that changes anything. > I just downloaded and tried out quake3 demo. worked fine. no crashes. i have to try out the timedemo and ut2003. Running 'timedemo ' will give me the fps, right? Rather than instantaneous, can I get an average fps with this command? Regards Gautham To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 20: 2:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF0BC37B401; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 20:02:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from sol.chel.skbkontur.ru (sol.chel.skbkontur.ru [212.57.175.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ABAB43EB2; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 20:00:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ilia@chel.skbkontur.ru) Received: from apollo.chel.skbkontur.ru (apollo.chel.skbkontur.ru [192.168.100.20]) by sol.chel.skbkontur.ru (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gB23vuuR034728; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 08:57:56 +0500 (YEKT) (envelope-from ilia@chel.skbkontur.ru) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 08:58:26 +0500 (YEKT) From: Ilia Chipitsine To: Jens Rehsack Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, Subject: Re: ports-multimedia ? In-Reply-To: <3DEACF15.5030908@liwing.de> Message-ID: <20021202085439.T57900-100000@apollo.chel.skbkontur.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Jens Rehsack wrote: > Ilia Chipitsine wrote: > >>>>Sure that your cvsupfile get's the most up-to-date version of the por= ts > >>>>tree? Maybe you just cvsup'ing against a release version. > >>> > >>> > >>>sure. > >> > >>Can you send me your cvsupfile, please. > >> > > > > > > *default host=3Dcvsup4.ru.freebsd.org > > *default base=3D/home > > *default prefix=3D/usr > > *default release=3Dcvs tag=3D. > > *default delete use-rel-suffix > > > > *default compress > > > > ports-base > > ports-multimedia > > Hm, I do not understand why you do not update you entire ports and if I very understand why I don't update entire ports! simply. because I don't need it, I don't want to pay extra for downloading unneccessary stuff, and, after all, what was the reason of splitting ports-all into ports-*** subcollections ??? > the problem you detect has sth. to with it. I compared your cvsupfile to > mine and detect that I use (to keep 4-STABLE in sync): > > *default tag=3DRELENG_4 > *default host=3Dcvsup2.de.FreeBSD.org > *default prefix=3D/usr > *default base=3D/usr/local/etc/cvsup > *default release=3Dcvs delete use-rel-suffix compress > > src-all > doc-all > ports-all tag=3D. > > You may see the difference to your tag definition. I recomment at first what is the difference in tag definition ???? I see no difference. both of us update ports for HEAD tag. > to write your wanted tag to a single line as I do. If that wouldn't help > (but I'm sure you tried), delete your ports/multimedia and cvsup again. > If that wont work, try to get ports-all and define a refuse file > (${BASE}/sup/refuse). > > Hope any of that helps, > Jens > > > -- > L i W W W i Jens Rehsack > L W W W > L i W W W W i nnn gggg LiWing IT-Services > L i W W W W i n n g g > LLLL i W W i n n g g Friesenstra=DFe 2 > gggg 06112 Halle > g > g g > Tel.: +49 - 3 45 - 5 17 05 91 ggg e-Mail: > Fax: +49 - 3 45 - 5 17 05 92 http://www.liwing.de/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 22:14:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E90537B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 22:14:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from post-20.mail.nl.demon.net (post-20.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7964443EAF for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 22:14:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cls@raggedclown.net) Received: from [212.238.197.102] (helo=mailhost.raggedclown.net) by post-20.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 18Ijqm-000K1g-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 02 Dec 2002 06:14:36 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhost.raggedclown.net (Ragged Clown Mail Gateway [dawn]) with ESMTP id E79A5CFF for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 07:14:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from willow.raggedclown.net (willow.raggedclown.intra [192.168.1.10]) by mailhost.raggedclown.net (Ragged Clown Mail Gateway [dawn]) with ESMTP id EEE2BC7E for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 07:14:23 +0100 (CET) Received: by willow.raggedclown.net (Ragged Clown Host [willow], from userid 1009) id 5AC3B225CC; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 07:14:24 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 07:14:24 +0100 From: Cliff Sarginson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /dev/ums0 not initialized Message-ID: <20021202061424.GA355@raggedclown.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS 0.3.12pre8 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Dec 01, 2002 at 10:36:47PM -0500, Adam Bender wrote: > > That didn't work, I get the same error. What I have gotten to work is > using it in the PS/2 port and setting the X mouse device to /dev/psm0. > Any idea why it doesn't work with USB anymore? > > Thanks, > > Adam > > On Sun, 1 Dec 2002, Mark Stosberg wrote: > > > On Sun, 1 Dec 2002, Adam Bender wrote: > > > > > > > > When I left for break, I had a perfectly working system (FreeBSD > > > 4.7-CURRENT). When I came back and booted it after being down for 5 days, > > > when I try to start KDE I get an error saying no mouse found, device > > > at /dev/ums0 is not initialized. I'm using a Logitech USB mouse (I've > > > also tried using it with a PS/2 converter, too). Any ideas how I can > > > get rid of the problem and get KDE to start again? > > > > As root, try running /stand/syinstall , then select "Configure" and then > > "Mouse". It should help you configure and test your mouse interactively. I have a Logitect Cordless USB Mouse which works fine in console and KDE rc.conf ------- usbd_enable="YES" moused_type="auto" moused_enable="YES" moused_flags="-z 4" XF86config ---------- Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/mouse" EndSection lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 13 Feb 2 2002 /dev/mouse -> /dev/sysmouse crw------- 1 root wheel 12, 128 Nov 25 09:02 /dev/sysmouse Now I always get a complaint on system boot about UMS0 not being configured, coming from the moused_enable line I guess. I found however that without that line the mouse did not work ! So I live with the error message. I did put a question about it to -questions but got no response. This was on a -stable of some time ago, and I have updated many times since - but I have never fiddled with it since. So it isn't right, but it works. I just live with the error. -- Cliff [ This mail has been checked as virus-free ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 22:28:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C182937B404 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 22:28:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from pioneernet.net (mail.pioneernet.net [207.115.64.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 338C143EA9 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 22:28:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chip@wiegand.org) Received: from chipster.wiegand.org [66.114.152.128] by pioneernet.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id AD776372009A; Sun, 01 Dec 2002 22:28:07 -0800 Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 10:28:47 -0800 From: chip wiegand To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: directory listing doesn't show all files Message-Id: <20021201102847.4bccdf13.chip@wiegand.org> Organization: Alternative Operating Systems X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.2claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a mixed network of FreeBSD boxes and Win98 boxes. On one FBSD box I use shlight to mount the c: drive of one win98 box. Works fine. When I browser, in any file manager or command line, a directory on the win98 box which contains almost 400 mp3's, on the FBSD box the directory listing shows only the first 167 files. I view the same directory from another win98 box and I see all files. On the FBSD box I used command line ls, as well as the file manager with XFCE. Any ideas why only about half of the files will be listed? -- Chip To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 22:38:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0212937B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 22:38:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from post-20.mail.nl.demon.net (post-20.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E6EE43ECF for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 22:38:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cls@raggedclown.net) Received: from [212.238.197.102] (helo=mailhost.raggedclown.net) by post-20.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 18IkDq-000Ke2-00 for FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 02 Dec 2002 06:38:26 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhost.raggedclown.net (Ragged Clown Mail Gateway [dawn]) with ESMTP id 10278CFF for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 07:38:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from willow.raggedclown.net (willow.raggedclown.intra [192.168.1.10]) by mailhost.raggedclown.net (Ragged Clown Mail Gateway [dawn]) with ESMTP id 2C636C7E for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 07:38:14 +0100 (CET) Received: by willow.raggedclown.net (Ragged Clown Host [willow], from userid 1009) id 0C9DB225CC; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 07:38:15 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 07:38:15 +0100 From: Cliff Sarginson To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Always mystified by this. /stand file sizes Message-ID: <20021202063814.GA580@raggedclown.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS 0.3.12pre8 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have been meaning to ask this since I started using FreeBSD but have never dared to, since I thought I ought to know :) Excerpt from /stand -r-xr-xr-x 31 root wheel 1865544 Sep 18 2001 -sh -r-xr-xr-x 31 root wheel 1865544 Sep 18 2001 [ -r-xr-xr-x 31 root wheel 1865544 Sep 18 2001 arp -r-xr-xr-x 31 root wheel 1865544 Sep 18 2001 boot_crunch -r-xr-xr-x 31 root wheel 1865544 Sep 18 2001 cpio -r-xr-xr-x 31 root wheel 1865544 Sep 18 2001 dhclient .. etc What does this mean all these things of size 1865544. And where is /stand exactly ? It certainly isn't taking up all this space on root... I feel today is the day I will finally know...I have given up trying to work it out. Please feel free to chastise me .. as someone who has worked on Unix systems for a long time, I feel I should know... -- Regards Cliff Sarginson The Netherlands [ This mail has been checked as virus-free ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 22:49:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E32C737B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 22:49:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (ei.xs4all.nl [213.84.67.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0719043EC5 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 22:49:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fbsd-q@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gB26oUsS004548; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 07:50:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from stable@ei.bzerk.org) Received: (from stable@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gB26oUYJ004547; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 07:50:30 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 07:50:30 +0100 From: Ruben de Groot To: Cliff Sarginson Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Always mystified by this. /stand file sizes Message-ID: <20021202065030.GB4506@ei.bzerk.org> References: <20021202063814.GA580@raggedclown.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021202063814.GA580@raggedclown.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 07:38:15AM +0100, Cliff Sarginson typed: > I have been meaning to ask this since I started using FreeBSD but have > never dared to, since I thought I ought to know :) > Excerpt from /stand > > -r-xr-xr-x 31 root wheel 1865544 Sep 18 2001 -sh > -r-xr-xr-x 31 root wheel 1865544 Sep 18 2001 [ > -r-xr-xr-x 31 root wheel 1865544 Sep 18 2001 arp > -r-xr-xr-x 31 root wheel 1865544 Sep 18 2001 boot_crunch > -r-xr-xr-x 31 root wheel 1865544 Sep 18 2001 cpio > -r-xr-xr-x 31 root wheel 1865544 Sep 18 2001 dhclient ^^^^ Look at the hard link count (31). It's just one binary, which will behave differently depending on the name you call it by. > .. > etc > > What does this mean all these things of size 1865544. > And where is /stand exactly ? It certainly isn't taking up all > this space on root... > > I feel today is the day I will finally know...I have given up trying to > work it out. > > Please feel free to chastise me .. as someone who has worked on Unix > systems for a long time, I feel I should know... > > -- > Regards > Cliff Sarginson > The Netherlands > > [ This mail has been checked as virus-free ] > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 22:54:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5A2237B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 22:54:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mash.minjust.gov.ua (mash.minjust.gov.ua [195.5.27.176]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6598A43EA9 for ; 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Sun, 1 Dec 2002 22:58:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from post-20.mail.nl.demon.net (post-20.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75B3143EB2 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 22:58:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cls@raggedclown.net) Received: from [212.238.197.102] (helo=mailhost.raggedclown.net) by post-20.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 18IkX6-000L6b-00 for FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 02 Dec 2002 06:58:20 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhost.raggedclown.net (Ragged Clown Mail Gateway [dawn]) with ESMTP id 45DCBCFF for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 07:58:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from willow.raggedclown.net (willow.raggedclown.intra [192.168.1.10]) by mailhost.raggedclown.net (Ragged Clown Mail Gateway [dawn]) with ESMTP id 57C37C7E for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 07:58:08 +0100 (CET) Received: by willow.raggedclown.net (Ragged Clown Host [willow], from userid 1009) id 708FB225CC; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 07:58:09 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 07:58:09 +0100 From: Cliff Sarginson To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Always mystified by this. /stand file sizes Message-ID: <20021202065809.GB681@raggedclown.net> References: <20021202063814.GA580@raggedclown.net> <20021202065030.GB4506@ei.bzerk.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021202065030.GB4506@ei.bzerk.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS 0.3.12pre8 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 07:50:30AM +0100, Ruben de Groot wrote: > On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 07:38:15AM +0100, Cliff Sarginson typed: > > I have been meaning to ask this since I started using FreeBSD but have > > never dared to, since I thought I ought to know :) > > Excerpt from /stand > > > > -r-xr-xr-x 31 root wheel 1865544 Sep 18 2001 -sh > > -r-xr-xr-x 31 root wheel 1865544 Sep 18 2001 [ > > -r-xr-xr-x 31 root wheel 1865544 Sep 18 2001 arp > > -r-xr-xr-x 31 root wheel 1865544 Sep 18 2001 boot_crunch > > -r-xr-xr-x 31 root wheel 1865544 Sep 18 2001 cpio > > -r-xr-xr-x 31 root wheel 1865544 Sep 18 2001 dhclient > ^^^^ > > Look at the hard link count (31). It's just one binary, which will behave differently > depending on the name you call it by. > Yes. I should have noticed that. Now I do :) -- Regards Cliff Sarginson The Netherlands [ This mail has been checked as virus-free ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 23: 8:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD04C37B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 23:08:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from web20105.mail.yahoo.com (web20105.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 820EB43EBE for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 23:08:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bsdneophyte@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20021202070814.18661.qmail@web20105.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.66.233.31] by web20105.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 01 Dec 2002 23:08:14 PST Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 23:08:14 -0800 (PST) From: Bsd Neophyte Subject: physically mounting a FreeBSD drive on a WinXP box To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i don't know if posting this question is relavant to this group... but i was wondering if it was possible to physically mount a former FreeBSD disk on a winxp box. i know someone would suggest that i mount the drive on the FreeBSD box and get the files i need that way... however, this is not an easy process. it would be alot easier if i could take the drive and use something to take the files from my WinXP system. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 23:33:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A41D37B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 23:33:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from 1nova.com (heorot.1nova.com [63.105.24.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99D4043E9C for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 23:33:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hamellr@heorot.1nova.com) Received: by 1nova.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B17EB18FD; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 00:37:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by 1nova.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E87918FC for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 00:37:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 00:37:48 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Hamell To: FreeBSD-questions Subject: Strange WWW problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG For the last two weeks or so, my web server has stopped processing requests after about 5:30pm or so until about 9:30 or later. I've checked the logs and thought that the Nimbda virus was bogging my server down, this was after I increased my MaxServers in http.conf from 10 to 20. Even then I had 13 httpd processes running. The weird part is that there will be periods of time when I can access any of my web sites just fine for about 5 minutes or so before I start getting "The page Could not be found" errors in IE. Nothing has changed recently in the configuration, so I tend to lean towards being DOS'ed, either via Nimbda or...? I'm seeing the attempts in my log, but right at this moment I'm not seeing any new ones, only have 5 http process's active.. and still can't access any of my domains via WWW. Anyone have any ideals? Rick ******************************************************************* New home page: http://1nova.com Ace Logan's Hardware Guide @ http://www.markeedragon.com FreeBSD - The power to Serve! http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 23:35:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7261337B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 23:35:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from brabys.co.za (postoffice.brabys.co.za [192.96.48.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3392A43EDC for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 23:35:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nelis@brabys.co.za) Received: from nelis.brabys.co.za (proxy-inner.brabys.co.za [192.96.48.11]) by brabys.co.za (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id gB27YLqJ008001 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 09:34:21 +0200 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20021202092622.012af578@192.96.48.11> X-Sender: nelis@192.96.48.11 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 09:34:52 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Nelis Lamprecht Subject: NAT & IPFW Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi People I've recently run out of ip's on our class C network and have now setup NAT on my FreeBSD 4.7 Stable machine. I am having difficulty configuring ipfw ( after reading several howto's ) to enable my NAT clients to connect through my firewall. I am able to ping the outside world ( from NAT client ) using the below ruleset but unable to telnet to any port on the outside. Please could someone give me an example of how to configure my ipfw ruleset to enable my NAT clients connectivity. I am able to connect from the ipfw machine to any host with the following ruleset but not from my NAT clients. If for example I were to give my NAT clients IRC connectivity what rule would I need to add ? Your suggestions, help would be much appreciated. Kind regards, Nelis My ruleset: #allow all outbound and only inbound TCP connections I've created add 0301 divert natd all from any to any via rl0 add 00302 check-state add 00303 allow tcp from any to any established add 00304 allow tcp from any to any out setup keep-state add 00305 allow tcp from any to 192.x.x.0/24 22,25,53,80,443 setup add 00306 allow tcp from 192.x.x.125 to 192.x.x.0/24 161,162 setup add 00307 allow tcp from any to 192.168.x.0/27 in recv rl1 #allow all outbound and only inbound UDP connections I've created add 00400 allow udp from 192.x.x.0/24 to any 53,123 keep-state out via rl0 add 00401 allow udp from any to 192.x.x.0/24 53,123 keep-state in via rl0 add 00402 allow udp from 192.x.x.0/24 to 192.x.x.125 161,162 keep-state out via rl0 add 00403 allow udp from 192.x.x.125 to 192.x.x.0/24 161,162 keep-state in via rl0 add 00404 allow udp from any to 192.168.x.0/27 in recv rl1 add 00405 allow udp from any to any out #allow some icmp types (codes not supported) ##allow path-mtu in both directions add 00600 allow icmp from any to any icmptypes 3 ##allow source quench in and out add 00601 allow icmp from any to any icmptypes 4 ##allow me to ping out and receive response back add 00602 allow icmp from any to any icmptypes 8 out add 00603 allow icmp from any to any icmptypes 0 in ##allow people to ping me add 00604 allow icmp from any to any icmptypes 8 in add 00605 allow icmp from any to any icmptypes 0 out ##allow me to run traceroute add 00606 allow icmp from any to any icmptypes 11 in #allow ident requests add 00700 allow tcp from any to any 113 keep-state setup #deny syn and fin bits used for OS finger printing using nmap add 00701 deny log tcp from any to any in tcpflags syn,fin #log anything that falls through add 09000 deny log ip from any to any My NAT config: pandora# cat /etc/natd.cf unregistered_only log To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 1 23:53:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E88637B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 23:53:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailf.telia.com (mailf.telia.com [194.22.194.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0D7F43E9C for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 23:53:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from listsub@401.cx) Received: from 401.cx (malin.twenty4help.se [195.67.108.195]) by mailf.telia.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB27rCMp009843; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 08:53:14 +0100 (CET) X-Original-Recipient: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3DEB114F.7030306@401.cx> Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 08:52:47 +0100 From: "Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bsd Neophyte Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: physically mounting a FreeBSD drive on a WinXP box References: <20021202070814.18661.qmail@web20105.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bsd Neophyte wrote: > i don't know if posting this question is relavant to this group... but i > was wondering if it was possible to physically mount a former FreeBSD disk > on a winxp box. > > i know someone would suggest that i mount the drive on the FreeBSD box and > get the files i need that way... however, this is not an easy process. it > would be alot easier if i could take the drive and use something to take > the files from my WinXP system. > AFAIK, this is not possible. FreeBSD can mount Windows filesystems, but the other way around is not true. As always, since m$ is the bigger one, the others have to follow their standards, while m$ itself doesnt care about anyone else's. -- R To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Dec 2 0:35:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 001EF37B401 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 00:35:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from bellavista.cz (mail.bellavista.cz [62.168.44.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DDA043E4A for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 00:35:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from neuhauser@bellavista.cz) Received: from lilith.bellavista.cz ([10.1.0.1]) by bellavista.cz (8.9.3/8.9.8) with ESMTP id JAA23333 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 09:35:41 +0100 Received: from freepuppy.bellavista.cz (freepuppy.bellavista.cz [10.0.0.10]) by lilith.bellavista.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id A798628 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 10:33:57 +0100 (CET) Received: by freepuppy.bellavista.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3BB4A2FDAE4; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 09:35:40 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 09:35:40 +0100 From: Roman Neuhauser To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sendmail / Fetchmail / Procmail / Mozilla Message-ID: <20021202083540.GE86826@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <3DEA0CB4.3030204@p6m7g8.com> <20021201184537.GD86826@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> <20021201200318.GA467@sub21-156.member.dsl-only.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021201200318.GA467@sub21-156.member.dsl-only.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG # nkinkade@dsl-only.net / 2002-12-01 12:03:18 -0800: > On Sun, Dec 01, 2002 at 07:45:37PM +0100, Roman Neuhauser wrote: > > > > If I want to use fetchmail to snag email from say 4 different pop acounts > > > and then filter it with procmail and use mozilla to read it (which I've > > > read is trivial to do), what parts of sendmail (or any mta) must I > > > have running minimally on localhost. > > > > none. you don't need sendmail to accept mail through fetchmail (just > > have it store messages directly in your mailbox instead of pulling > > them through sendmail; you get an added bonus of preventing mail > > loops in case you manage to misconfigure either part), and you don't > > need sendmail to send mail from mozilla, as it has its own > > implementation of a smtp client, just like any other clickoid mail > > client (IOW, it bypasses the standard, which is passing the message > > to sendmail on the command line.) > > > > note however, that disabling sendmail completely will cripple your > > system in that you will no longer receive the valuable output from > > periodic(8) scripts, and possibly in other areas. > > > Why would disabling sendmail cripple all of the periodic scripts? Other > than those scripts that relate specifically to an MTA, which others > would be affected? where in the text you quoted did I say that disabling sendmail would cripple periodic(8) scripts? I said it would cripple the system in that root would no longer receive the output of the periodic scripts. > Also, if you have another MTA just edit /etc/mail/mailer.conf to point > to your new MTA, as the various invocations of sendmail are just > wrappers that use the mailer.conf file to determine exactly what they > should be executing. I recently left sendmail in favour of Exim. A > few tweaks to mailer.conf and one or two minor changes to a few of the > periodic scripts and everything is in order. I was speaking about sendmail, not Sendmail. This part of the message was specifically about having system with no *s*endmail. The latter half was about disabling {S,s}endmail. I run Postfix on all my machines, so I guess I'm quite aware *S*endmail is not exactly required. -- If you cc me or remove the list(s) completely I'll most likely ignore your message. see http://www.eyrie.org./~eagle/faqs/questions.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Dec 2 0:41:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ABF437B4F8 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 00:41:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp1.eunet.yu (smtp1.EUnet.yu [194.247.192.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EABAA43ECF for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 00:41:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pcmaster@EUnet.yu) Received: (from root@localhost) by smtp1.eunet.yu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gB28ffH14108 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org.KAV; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 09:41:41 +0100 Received: from pcmaster (P-6.216.eunet.yu [213.240.6.216]) by smtp1.eunet.yu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gB28ffd00383 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 09:41:41 +0100 Message-ID: <010701c29915$2252a640$d806f0d5@pcmaster> From: "Tibor Selesi" To: Subject: Opti 931 question Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 09:32:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello to all, I managed to compile my kernel and included the "device pcm" line for my sound card to work. BSD has found my sound card on pcm0. When I launched xmms, it couldn't play any sound. So I realised that something is wrong. I tried to load the snd_sb16.ko driver, but the system reported an error, something like the driver already loaded. Does anyone know what driver can communicate with opti 931? Or what driver do I need for my card to work? Thanks for Your answers, Tibor To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Dec 2 0:41:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0373D37B41D for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 00:41:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp1.eunet.yu (smtp1.EUnet.yu [194.247.192.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2136D43EAF for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 00:41:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pcmaster@EUnet.yu) Received: (from root@localhost) by smtp1.eunet.yu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gB28feA07858 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org.KAV; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 09:41:40 +0100 Received: from pcmaster (P-6.216.eunet.yu [213.240.6.216]) by smtp1.eunet.yu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gB28fdd16313 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 09:41:39 +0100 Message-ID: <010601c29915$21a32c60$d806f0d5@pcmaster> From: "Tibor Selesi" To: Subject: Opti 931 Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 09:31:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello to all, I'm sorry for the inconvenience, but I wasn't subsrcribed to the group so I haven't received any reply's. I'm sending my problem: I managed to compile my kernel and included the "device pcm" line for my sound card to work. BSD has found my sound card on pcm0. When I launched xmms, it couldn't play any sound. So I realised that something is wrong. I tried to load the snd_sb16.ko driver, but the system reported an error, something like the driver already loaded. Does anyone know what driver can communicate with opti 931? Or what driver do I need for my card to work? Thanks again for Your answers, Tibor To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Dec 2 0:46:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCBC437B421 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 00:46:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from outlander.us (35-3-237-24-cable.anchorageak.net [24.237.3.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CFCC43EA9 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 00:46:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@outlander.us) content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: DNS Entries? X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 23:46:37 -0900 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Opti 931 question Thread-Index: AcKZ3vIY5+HV1ssuQXugjUHz4blnrQAAFnTg From: "Mark-Nathaniel Weisman" To: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Anyone need a primary or secondary DNS server? I'll host any DNS = registry you may need for only $10 a year! As many as you want, only = $10. Feel free to email me at mark@mystic1.net and I'll get you set up. = It's all setup on a 4.4 FreeBSD box, so I feel like I ought to offer it = here just because. Sincerely, Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Dec 2 0:47:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80F0F37B401 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 00:47:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from bellavista.cz (mail.bellavista.cz [62.168.44.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3F8943E88 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 00:47:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from neuhauser@bellavista.cz) Received: from lilith.bellavista.cz ([10.1.0.1]) by bellavista.cz (8.9.3/8.9.8) with ESMTP id JAA23473; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 09:47:29 +0100 Received: from freepuppy.bellavista.cz (freepuppy.bellavista.cz [10.0.0.10]) by lilith.bellavista.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F55528; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 10:45:45 +0100 (CET) Received: by freepuppy.bellavista.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D1CC12FDACF; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 09:47:26 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 09:47:26 +0100 From: Roman Neuhauser To: "Philip M. Gollucci" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mail Reader Clients Message-ID: <20021202084726.GF86826@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> Mail-Followup-To: "Philip M. Gollucci" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <3DEA2BB0.4010001@p6m7g8.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DEA2BB0.4010001@p6m7g8.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG # philip@p6m7g8.com / 2002-12-01 15:33:04 +0000: > Please CC me on the reply again. Thanks. > > I'm looking for a good graphical mail reader client (to handle appx 3000 > mails per day) I know this is not what you asked for, but I'm sure mutt would do you much better service. > I've got mail my mail working with fetchmail/procmail, so I don't need > one with filtering. All mouse-driven mail clients I know have this baggage, you'll have to take it. > Just one that understands mbox format. Just about any. BTW, if your mailboxes are going to grow a bit, you might prefer the Maildir format. There were some messages in mutt-users@ stating that Maildirs (theyr handling in mutt, anyway) are very fast on FreeBSD, especially if you have UFS_DIRHASH enabled. That said, I still have all my mail in mboxes, opening the 62MB of freebsd-questions takes less than two seconds on my machine (in mutt, of course :) > I don't think I want to use mozilla/netscape as its too bulky. And the bundled mail client is buggy. > mutt/pine are good, but not quite as graphical as I want. But will enable you to get the work done with much more comfort, in half the time. > If it matters, by WM is afterstep. -- If you cc me or remove the list(s) completely I'll most likely ignore your message. see http://www.eyrie.org./~eagle/faqs/questions.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Dec 2 0:47:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C5E937B415 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 00:47:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.liwing.de (mail.liwing.de [213.70.188.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEB6143EB2 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 00:47:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rehsack@liwing.de) Received: (qmail 26885 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2002 08:47:38 -0000 Received: from stingray.liwing.de (HELO liwing.de) ([213.70.188.164]) (envelope-sender ) by mail.liwing.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 2 Dec 2002 08:47:38 -0000 Message-ID: <3DEB1E4F.5000402@liwing.de> Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 09:48:15 +0100 From: Jens Rehsack Organization: LiWing IT-Services User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ilia Chipitsine Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports-multimedia ? References: <20021202085439.T57900-100000@apollo.chel.skbkontur.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ilia Chipitsine wrote: > On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Jens Rehsack wrote: > > >>Ilia Chipitsine wrote: >> >>>>>>Sure that your cvsupfile get's the most up-to-date version of the ports >>>>>>tree? Maybe you just cvsup'ing against a release version. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>sure. >>>> >>>>Can you send me your cvsupfile, please. >>>> >>> >>> >>>*default host=cvsup4.ru.freebsd.org >>>*default base=/home >>>*default prefix=/usr >>>*default release=cvs tag=. >>>*default delete use-rel-suffix >>> >>>*default compress >>> >>>ports-base >>>ports-multimedia >> >>Hm, I do not understand why you do not update you entire ports and if > > > I very understand why I don't update entire ports! > simply. because I don't need it, I don't want to pay extra for downloading Buy a CD. > unneccessary stuff, and, after all, what was the reason of splitting > ports-all into ports-*** subcollections ??? For easier management? > >>the problem you detect has sth. to with it. I compared your cvsupfile to >>mine and detect that I use (to keep 4-STABLE in sync): >> >>*default tag=RELENG_4 >>*default host=cvsup2.de.FreeBSD.org >>*default prefix=/usr >>*default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup >>*default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix compress >> >>src-all >>doc-all >>ports-all tag=. >> > > > > >>You may see the difference to your tag definition. I recomment at first > > > what is the difference in tag definition ???? I see no difference. > both of us update ports for HEAD tag. But in the style of the file. Please use a single line like *default tag=. >>to write your wanted tag to a single line as I do. If that wouldn't help >>(but I'm sure you tried), delete your ports/multimedia and cvsup again. >>If that wont work, try to get ports-all and define a refuse file >>(${BASE}/sup/refuse). >> >>Hope any of that helps, >>Jens >> >> >>-- >>L i W W W i Jens Rehsack >>L W W W >>L i W W W W i nnn gggg LiWing IT-Services >>L i W W W W i n n g g >>LLLL i W W i n n g g Friesenstraße 2 >> gggg 06112 Halle >> g >> g g >>Tel.: +49 - 3 45 - 5 17 05 91 ggg e-Mail: >>Fax: +49 - 3 45 - 5 17 05 92 http://www.liwing.de/ >> >> > > > > > -- L i W W W i Jens Rehsack L W W W L i W W W W i nnn gggg LiWing IT-Services L i W W W W i n n g g LLLL i W W i n n g g Friesenstra?e 2 gggg 06112 Halle g g g Tel.: +49 - 3 45 - 5 17 05 91 ggg e-Mail: Fax: +49 - 3 45 - 5 17 05 92 http://www.liwing.de/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Dec 2 0:51:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AE3B37B420 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 00:51:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from bellavista.cz (mail.bellavista.cz [62.168.44.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFF9443EBE for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 00:51:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from neuhauser@bellavista.cz) Received: from lilith.bellavista.cz ([10.1.0.1]) by bellavista.cz (8.9.3/8.9.8) with ESMTP id JAA23539 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 09:51:01 +0100 Received: from freepuppy.bellavista.cz (freepuppy.bellavista.cz [10.0.0.10]) by lilith.bellavista.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFEFB28 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 10:49:17 +0100 (CET) Received: by freepuppy.bellavista.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7BC4D2FDACF; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 09:51:01 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 09:51:01 +0100 From: Roman Neuhauser To: "freebsd-questions @ freebsd. org" Subject: Re: directory listing doesn't show all files Message-ID: <20021202085101.GG86826@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> Mail-Followup-To: "freebsd-questions @ freebsd. org" References: <20021201102847.4bccdf13.chip@wiegand.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021201102847.4bccdf13.chip@wiegand.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG # chip@wiegand.org / 2002-12-01 10:28:47 -0800: > I have a mixed network of FreeBSD boxes and Win98 boxes. On one FBSD box > I use shlight to mount the c: drive of one win98 box. Works fine. When I > browser, in any file manager or command line, a directory on the win98 > box which contains almost 400 mp3's, on the FBSD box the directory > listing shows only the first 167 files. I view the same directory from > another win98 box and I see all files. On the FBSD box I used command > line ls, as well as the file manager with XFCE. > Any ideas why only about half of the files will be listed? a problem in sharity light? try the client from net/samba or mount_smbfs(8). the latter might require kernel rebuild. -- If you cc me or remove the list(s) completely I'll most likely ignore your message. see http://www.eyrie.org./~eagle/faqs/questions.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Dec 2 0:58:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0576E37B401 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 00:58:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from bellavista.cz (mail.bellavista.cz [62.168.44.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C58EE43E88 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 00:58:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from neuhauser@bellavista.cz) Received: from lilith.bellavista.cz ([10.1.0.1]) by bellavista.cz (8.9.3/8.9.8) with ESMTP id JAA23626; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 09:58:35 +0100 Received: from freepuppy.bellavista.cz (freepuppy.bellavista.cz [10.0.0.10]) by lilith.bellavista.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7684B28; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 10:56:51 +0100 (CET) Received: by freepuppy.bellavista.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 680AC2FDACF; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 09:58:34 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 09:58:34 +0100 From: Roman Neuhauser To: Rick Hamell Cc: FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: Strange WWW problem Message-ID: <20021202085834.GH86826@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> Mail-Followup-To: Rick Hamell , FreeBSD-questions References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG # hamellr@heorot.1nova.com / 2002-12-02 00:37:48 -0800: > The weird part is that there will be periods of time when I can access > any of my web sites just fine for about 5 minutes or so before I start > getting "The page Could not be found" errors in IE. Nothing has > changed recently in the configuration, so I tend to lean towards being > DOS'ed, either via Nimbda or...? I'm seeing the attempts in my log, > but right at this moment I'm not seeing any new ones, only have 5 http > process's active.. and still can't access any of my domains via WWW. > > Anyone have any ideals? Guessing like this is useless, you are wasting your time. The information you provided is also useless, you are wasting time of everyone else on the list. Dissect your problem into individual components that could be the culprit, and test each one individually: * network connectivity * DNS * the web server box -- If you cc me or remove the list(s) completely I'll most likely ignore your message. see http://www.eyrie.org./~eagle/faqs/questions.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Dec 2 1:19:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D93A537B401 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 01:19:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9023D43EBE for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 01:19:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gB29JQOR061135 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 09:19:26 GMT (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost) by happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gB29JLQB061134 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 09:19:21 GMT Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 09:19:21 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rndc-conf is freezing.. Message-ID: <20021202091920.GA60710@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophi> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT,USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.43 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Dec 01, 2002 at 06:08:44PM -0500, Jeff MacDonald wrote: > I've read a few threads that say rndc-confgen may freeze because > /dev/random isnt' random enough. > > I've set the rand_irqs in rc.conf, as well hammered on the keyboard > some while rndc-confgen is runnning and it still sits there. > > anyone know what can be done? I have bind9 running fine, but if > i update anything i have to do a kill/named to read config changes. > which is less than elegant ;) You can run: rndc-confgen -r keyboard which will use the keyboard interactively as a source of randomness. Or you can just run rndc-confgen on another host and copy the files it generates over to your DNS server. The 'secret' in the generated config files is just a base64 encoded short piece of text. You can generate a secret using 'mmencode' as described in the rndc.conf(5) man page. However, it's not necessary to install the metamail package, as openssl will do the job: % echo secret-password | openssl base64 c2VjcmV0LXBhc3N3b3JkCg== Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Dec 2 1:55: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07D8237B401 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 01:55:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from bellavista.cz (mail.bellavista.cz [62.168.44.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B87B743EF4 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 01:54:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from neuhauser@bellavista.cz) Received: from lilith.bellavista.cz ([10.1.0.1]) by bellavista.cz (8.9.3/8.9.8) with ESMTP id KAA24358; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 10:54:31 +0100 Received: from freepuppy.bellavista.cz (freepuppy.bellavista.cz [10.0.0.10]) by lilith.bellavista.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E6F628; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 11:52:47 +0100 (CET) Received: by freepuppy.bellavista.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1E1BE2FDAE4; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 10:54:30 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 10:54:30 +0100 From: Roman Neuhauser To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, Giorgos Keramidas Subject: Re: Find abandoned packages Message-ID: <20021202095429.GI86826@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> Mail-Followup-To: "Gary W. Swearingen" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, Giorgos Keramidas References: <000801c2915e$be8907c0$6400a8c0@windows> <9eel9eaber.l9e@localhost.localdomain> <20021125091339.GR77198@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> <20021126065739.GL77198@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG # swear@attbi.com / 2002-11-26 13:41:36 -0800: > Roman Neuhauser writes: > > > 4. You have already shown that you (falsely) think MIME email == > > HTML email. > > I surely didn't think that, but HTML was all I mentioned because I did > (falsely) think that MIME email was almost always either HTML or > complex stuff like MSFT Word or multipart things with images, etc. I > didn't know it could be as simple as a non-MIME message with a > "MIME-Version: 1.0" header inserted, with or without a > "Content-type: text/plain; charset=something" header. > > Per your suggestion, I've just read some of RFC-2045, but not all 31 > pages or the several other RCFs which are essentially parts of it. > But I think I've learned a few things new to me and, apparently, you. not so new, but I obviously misread the 8BITMIME stuff in RFC 2821 (which obsoletes 821). also, see e. g. SevenBitInput and EightBitMode Sendmail options. > > AFAIK, this has changed with MIME. RFC 822 restricts email messages > > to 7 bits (ASCII), ... > > Looks like we're both wrong, if non-STMP MTAs are allowed. MIME hasn't > changed anything at the level I was thinking about (MTA) -- after MIME > encoding, if any. > > First, both non-MIME and MIME messages MUST have only 7-bit data if they > want to get thru a SMTP system. RFC-2045 says: > > RFC 821 (SMTP) restricts mail messages to 7bit US-ASCII data with > lines no longer than 1000 characters including any trailing CRLF line > separator. RFC 2821: The [SMTP BODY] content is textual in nature, expressed using the US-ASCII repertoire [1]. Although SMTP extensions (such as "8BITMIME" [20]) may relax this restriction for the content body, and: Eight-bit message content transmission MAY be requested of the server by a client using extended SMTP facilities, notably the "8BITMIME" extension [20]. 8BITMIME SHOULD be supported by SMTP servers. However, it MUST not be construed as authorization to transmit unrestricted eight bit material. 8BITMIME MUST NOT be requested by senders for material with the high bit on that is not in MIME format with an appropriate content-transfer encoding; servers MAY reject such messages. > > BTW, RFC 2045 specifies a way to pass non-ASCII messages through > > MTA's that assume all-ASCII world: the Content-Transfer-Encoding > > header. > > Yes. The default MIME encoding is none; the message must be 7-bit clean > for SMTP MTAs. The offending message used "quoted-printable" which is > almost like 7-bit, except that 8-bit characters (and a few 7-bit'ers) > are encoded as "=#", where "#" is the 8-bit value encoded as two ASCII > HEX digits. (The offending message had that OK.) A more reliable > (but unreadable) 7-bit encoding is "base64". I know both q-p and base64. BTW, did you know that MSFT messaging programs use one or the other based on a handful of criteria? The content doesn't seem to matter, however. I haven't reliably tracked the decision process down, yet. > Other encodings allow for encodings to 8-bit data, no encoding, etc. > > There's a whole other aspect of this that deserves mention. Even if > MSFT software worked correctly, telling the truth about its weird > character set and properly encoding it, it's unlikely that my MUA > (Xemacs) would know how to decode it properly. If it did, it would need > to either decode to the original weird character and support the display > of that, or translate the decoded character set to some other character > set, like probably Unicode. (Which Xemacs might even support, I don't > know -- I HAVE noticed that has started displaying trademark symbols, > for instance where it probably used to show it as an octal number > (\###).) Mutt has IIRC provisions to get around this drain bamage: you can tell it to display messages from a particular messaging software that claim to use charset X using charset Y. I don't use this feature, though. -- If you cc me or remove the list(s) completely I'll most likely ignore your message. see http://www.eyrie.org./~eagle/faqs/questions.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Dec 2 2: 1:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A5B737B401 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 02:01:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail6.sea.registeredsite.com (mail6.sea.registeredsite.com [66.111.73.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DD1543ED4 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 02:01:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin@asarian-host.net) Received: from asarian-host.net (asarian-host.net [216.122.74.112]) by mail6.sea.registeredsite.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gB2A1Kv0031853 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 05:01:21 -0500 Comments: To protect the identity of the sender, certain header fields are either not shown, or masked. Anonymous email addresses for asarians can be requested by filling in the appropriate form at: https://asarian-host.net/cgi-bin/signup.cgi Received: (from root@localhost) by asarian-host.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) id gB2A1L922423 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 11:01:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from admin@asarian-host.net) Posted-Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 11:01:21 +0100 (CET) From: Mark Message-Id: <200212021001.GB2A1HI22404@asarian-host.net> Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 11:01:12 +0100 X-Authenticated-Sender: admin@asarian-host.net Subject: Re: physically mounting a FreeBSD drive on a WinXP box X-Trace: c6wDYYliDjqHlwqKMlApPrMFhxOASjZv2Rnh3+wBkAasBRp7YmatGTdN4xVOeNgF X-Complaints-To: abuse@asarian-host.net X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we are unable to process your complaint Organization: Asarian-host To: "Bsd Neophyte" , References: <20021202070814.18661.qmail@web20105.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Auth: Asarian-host PGP signature iQEVAwUAPesvcTFqW1BleBN9AQEhsgf+PmszsU5Vc1qzMWRuhnCo2VQfOkNUVifG sq6XTrJekNWfR//uHPKaj2zsamqNYbN6/j70q+HYiixF0KN7Lb9TLXp6ap+Wi1L+ Qvn0ODFYRVstKXJB/WtI2lPEtNRFv1d7FgzjPy7vKf0lYL9i8u0uBYamuxcqrTIG 8NtjgUhEyJwCdslcBy/lfwlE4YCcx8EyJMgbIm3T7e5TDdHvRLQsP0TuFmBFPefp KzEg+9/bniTlTY5NFibKVWbVQS9by70bAIBGgCiOcqs/2dX1EMuGhx+M2N9lO+6O 6MTZWwmUoeMRm+1XfnmijtYvuD3LQXlsgcuUpKpRupDK1hgjqfc0kA== =vkaP Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bsd Neophyte" To: Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 8:08 AM Subject: physically mounting a FreeBSD drive on a WinXP box > i don't know if posting this question is relavant to this group... > but i was wondering if it was possible to physically mount > a former FreeBSD disk on a winxp box. > > i know someone would suggest that i mount the drive on the > FreeBSD box and get the files i need that way... however, this is > not an easy process. it would be alot easier if i could take the > drive and use something to take the files from my WinXP > system. Have you tried VMware? I use it all the time on my XP box, for test purposes. :) I installed a FreeBSD 4.7R OS on a VMware box, inside XP, that I can communicate with in all the normal ways, like FTP. VMware will easily allow you to add a physical drive to the configuration. So, set up something like FTP within your VMware box, and take the data right off the mounted drive within the VMware box. - Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Dec 2 2:23: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B80EC37B401 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 02:22:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from truman.datasphereweb.com (12-231-81-122.client.attbi.com [12.231.81.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 09E3C43E9C for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 02:22:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ryallsd@datasphereweb.com) Received: (qmail 52731 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2002 10:22:54 -0000 Received: from 12-229-238-38.client.attbi.com (HELO bartxp) (12.229.238.38) by 12-231-81-122.client.attbi.com with SMTP; 2 Dec 2002 10:22:54 -0000 From: "Derrick Ryalls" To: Subject: Poor server response Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 02:24:47 -0800 Message-ID: <001801c299ed$0d4af3f0$0200a8c0@bartxp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I built a FreeBSD box using a 4.7-release mini cd distro from freebsd.org. I then updated to stable via cvsup and did a buildworld/kernel. The machine needed linux support, so I installed linux-base (6?) from the ports. Things were going fine until I started stressing the box. Frequently, when using edit to edit config files, the remote session would lock and connection would get lost. The edit session would show up in a 'ps -aux' but I could not kill it via kill or killall. Now the box is fairly unresponsive to pings. I swapped a known good patch cable but it didn't help. Also, when trying to scp, more often than not, once I click on copy (using winscp), the session would lock up and connection drop on the client side. I don't seem to have any editing issues if I am sitting at the terminal, and pinging local ip doesn't drop a packet. When I ping any other ip, I get dropped packets... Any ideas? Hardware: XP1800+ ECS K7S5A mobo w/ onboard lan. 512M PC2100 crucial ram -Derrick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Dec 2 2:26: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B47E137B401 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 02:26:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from HAL9000.homeunix.com (12-232-220-15.client.attbi.com [12.232.220.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A8E943EAF for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 02:26:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dschultz@uclink.Berkeley.EDU) Received: from HAL9000.homeunix.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by HAL9000.homeunix.com (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB2AQ0OK000907; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 02:26:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dschultz@uclink.Berkeley.EDU) Received: (from das@localhost) by HAL9000.homeunix.com (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id gB2APxVk000906; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 02:25:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dschultz@uclink.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 02:25:59 -0800 From: David Schultz To: Cliff Sarginson Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Always mystified by this. /stand file sizes Message-ID: <20021202102559.GA778@HAL9000.homeunix.com> Mail-Followup-To: Cliff Sarginson , FreeBSD Questions References: <20021202063814.GA580@raggedclown.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021202063814.GA580@raggedclown.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thus spake Cliff Sarginson : > I have been meaning to ask this since I started using FreeBSD but have > never dared to, since I thought I ought to know :) > Excerpt from /stand > > -r-xr-xr-x 31 root wheel 1865544 Sep 18 2001 -sh > -r-xr-xr-x 31 root wheel 1865544 Sep 18 2001 [ > -r-xr-xr-x 31 root wheel 1865544 Sep 18 2001 arp > -r-xr-xr-x 31 root wheel 1865544 Sep 18 2001 boot_crunch > -r-xr-xr-x 31 root wheel 1865544 Sep 18 2001 cpio > -r-xr-xr-x 31 root wheel 1865544 Sep 18 2001 dhclient > .. > etc > > What does this mean all these things of size 1865544. > And where is /stand exactly ? It certainly isn't taking up all > this space on root... See crunchgen(1). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Dec 2 2:27:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9188237B401 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 02:27:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailf.telia.com (mailf.telia.com [194.22.194.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF3C643E88 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 02:27:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from listsub@401.cx) Received: from 401.cx (malin.twenty4help.se [195.67.108.195]) by mailf.telia.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB2ARNTL019992; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 11:27:23 +0100 (CET) X-Original-Recipient: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3DEB3571.9040003@401.cx> Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 11:26:57 +0100 From: "Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Derrick Ryalls Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Poor server response References: <001801c299ed$0d4af3f0$0200a8c0@bartxp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Derrick Ryalls wrote: > I built a FreeBSD box using a 4.7-release mini cd distro from > freebsd.org. I then updated to stable via cvsup and did a > buildworld/kernel. > > The machine needed linux support, so I installed linux-base (6?) from > the ports. Things were going fine until I started stressing the box. > > Frequently, when using edit to edit config files, the remote session > would lock and connection would get lost. The edit session would show > up in a 'ps -aux' but I could not kill it via kill or killall. Now the > box is fairly unresponsive to pings. I swapped a known good patch cable > but it didn't help. Also, when trying to scp, more often than not, once > I click on copy (using winscp), the session would lock up and connection > drop on the client side. > > I don't seem to have any editing issues if I am sitting at the terminal, > and pinging local ip doesn't drop a packet. When I ping any other ip, I > get dropped packets... > > Any ideas? > > Hardware: > > XP1800+ > ECS K7S5A mobo w/ onboard lan. > 512M PC2100 crucial ram > > > > -Derrick > I have exactly that motherboard in one of my machines, and I must say Im not impressed by its performance or stability. I disabled the onboard nic and replaced it with a PCI Intel 10/100 card, and network performance sky-rocketed. Just a tip -- R To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Dec 2 2:27:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D2F137B404 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 02:27:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from 0lsen.net (12-231-216-103.client.attbi.com [12.231.216.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F3A643E88 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 02:27:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from clint@0lsen.net) Received: by 0lsen.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id AEE51572; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 02:27:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 02:27:36 -0800 From: Clint Olsen To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: 4.7: Odd 'man' behavior Message-ID: <20021202102736.GA37092@0lsen.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: NULlsen Network X-Disclaimer: Mutt Bites! Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It's possible this is cockpit fog, but I didn't notice this until I upgraded to 4.7. Certain manpages are being rendered in such a way that when I type 'q' to exit my PAGER (less), the pager returns to the beginning of the document as if it doesn't exit. But what appears to be happening is that I'm getting multiple streams of output to the TTY: clint 37083 0.0 0.6 1116 588 p1 S+ 2:24AM 0:00.03 man thttpd clint 37084 0.0 0.3 628 308 p1 S+ 2:24AM 0:00.00 sh -c /usr/bin/zcat /usr/local/man/cat8/thttpd.8.gz | less clint 37085 0.0 0.2 604 216 p1 S+ 2:24AM 0:00.01 /usr/bin/zcat /usr/local/man/cat8/thttpd.8.gz So, it appears that both 37084 and 37085 are writing to my TTY, which is why it looks like it doesn't exit... -Clint To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Dec 2 2:55:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDAE537B401 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 02:55:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from callisto.picknowl.com.au (callisto.picknowl.com.au [203.87.94.246]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4308243EB2 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 02:55:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imoore@picknowl.com.au) Received: from daemon (ppp-020.cust203-87-124.ghr.chariot.net.au [203.87.124.20]) by callisto.picknowl.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1E2E5FA0E for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 21:25:29 +1030 (CST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Ian Moore To: Questions Subject: Hostname failure Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 21:25:28 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200212022125.28202.imoore@picknowl.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I'm having a frustrating time witht a recently built 4.7-RELEASE box. It seems like it can't resolve it's own hostname! hostname returns the hostname OK: daemon:/home/imoore # hostname daemon but running cvsup gives: daemon:/home/imoore # cvsup /usr/local/etc/cvsup/supfile Cannot get IP address of my own host -- is its hostname correct? Also, when apache starts: Local package initialization:httpd: Could not determine the server's ful= ly=20 qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName My rc.conf has: hostname=3D"daemon" and /ect/hosts looks like: 127.0.0.1 localhost deamon This is a standalone machine with a dial-up ppp connection, so it's a pre= tty=20 basic setup. I can't see what the difference is between it and other mach= ines=20 I've set up. Any ideas? Cheers, Ian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Dec 2 3: 1:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 254C837B401; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 03:01:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from inferno.darktide.net (inferno.darktide.net [203.31.37.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49E1143EA9; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 03:01:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jrm@delta-e.com.au) Received: from inferno.darktide.net (jrm@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inferno.darktide.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gB2B1N7l065943; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 21:01:23 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jrm@delta-e.com.au) Received: from localhost (jrm@localhost) by inferno.darktide.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id gB2B1MFY065940; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 22:01:22 +1100 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: inferno.darktide.net: jrm owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 22:01:22 +1100 (EST) From: J R Matthews X-X-Sender: jrm@inferno.darktide.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: /usr/bin/finger problems... Message-ID: <20021202215516.U65796-100000@inferno.darktide.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Whom it concerns, I just upgraded a myriad of my systems from 4.6R-p2 to 4.7 and lo-and-behold I could no longer use /usr/bin/finger to get a finger from remote Ascend NAS. Funnily enough, it still worked on remote Cisco and unix boxen. Still - i got shitty with it, and dug into the problem. In 4.6R there was no INET6 support - 4.7 onwards now has it and someone just very simply screwed up typing in the new code, as you'll plainly see. Old Code snippet from net.c iov[msg.msg_iovlen].iov_base = "\r\n"; New code snippet from net.c static char neteol[] = "\n\r"; . . . iov[msg.msg_iovlen].iov_base = neteol; Well, it's pretty obvious what the problem now isnt it? :) And, of course - changing it to the old behavior of "\r\n" does fix it and my problems are no more. I can submit a patch to fix this if you want or not.. I honestly dont give a damn to be honest ;) Regards, Jenna PLEASE NOTE: I'm not on the freebsd-questions list. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Dec 2 3: 4:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA82E37B404 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 03:04:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from pcwin002.win.tue.nl (pcwin002.win.tue.nl [131.155.71.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E71D843EA9 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 03:04:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stijn@pcwin002.win.tue.nl) Received: from pcwin002.win.tue.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pcwin002.win.tue.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gB2B3i3E084482; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 12:03:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from stijn@pcwin002.win.tue.nl) Received: (from stijn@localhost) by pcwin002.win.tue.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gB2B3iUL084481; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 12:03:44 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 12:03:44 +0100 From: Stijn Hoop To: Ian Moore Cc: Questions Subject: Re: Hostname failure Message-ID: <20021202110344.GG83264@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> References: <200212022125.28202.imoore@picknowl.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="nO3oAMapP4dBpMZi" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200212022125.28202.imoore@picknowl.com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Bright-Idea: Let's abolish HTML mail! Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --nO3oAMapP4dBpMZi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 09:25:28PM +1030, Ian Moore wrote: > and /ect/hosts looks like: > 127.0.0.1 localhost deamon ^^^^^^ That's not spelt like 'daemon'. Typo? --Stijn --=20 Tact, n.: The unsaid part of what you're thinking. --nO3oAMapP4dBpMZi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE96z4QY3r/tLQmfWcRAtCTAKCuxaju1ITpMNuKZHxrJFELZFSjpgCgiTWz 5YCjhJvFARIa2InT/GwEODc= =z44/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nO3oAMapP4dBpMZi-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Dec 2 3:13: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 058B937B401 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 03:13:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from callisto.picknowl.com.au (callisto.picknowl.com.au [203.87.94.246]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84B0843E9C for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 03:12:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imoore@picknowl.com.au) Received: from daemon (ppp-020.cust203-87-124.ghr.chariot.net.au [203.87.124.20]) by callisto.picknowl.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id A24C25FA20; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 21:42:57 +1030 (CST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Ian Moore To: Stijn Hoop Subject: Re: Hostname failure Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 21:42:51 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 Cc: Questions References: <200212022125.28202.imoore@picknowl.com.au> <20021202110344.GG83264@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> In-Reply-To: <20021202110344.GG83264@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200212022142.51237.imoore@picknowl.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 2 Dec 2002 21:33, Stijn Hoop wrote: > On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 09:25:28PM +1030, Ian Moore wrote: > > and /ect/hosts looks like: > > 127.0.0.1 localhost deamon > > =09=09=09=09 ^^^^^^ > > That's not spelt like 'daemon'. Typo? > > --Stijn Oops! Yes, I is. I could have sworn I'd checked the spelling was the same= =20 everywhere. Thanks, Ian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Dec 2 3:21:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2663937B401 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 03:21:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from post-20.mail.nl.demon.net (post-20.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BEDC43E88 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 03:21:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cls@raggedclown.net) Received: from [212.238.197.102] (helo=mailhost.raggedclown.net) by post-20.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 18Iodz-000Aa0-00 for FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 02 Dec 2002 11:21:43 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhost.raggedclown.net (Ragged Clown Mail Gateway [dawn]) with ESMTP id 35A93D3D for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 12:21:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from willow.raggedclown.net (willow.raggedclown.intra [192.168.1.10]) by mailhost.raggedclown.net (Ragged Clown Mail Gateway [dawn]) with ESMTP id 61454C7E for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 12:21:31 +0100 (CET) Received: by willow.raggedclown.net (Ragged Clown Host [willow], from userid 1009) id 087BC225CC; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 12:21:31 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 12:21:31 +0100 From: Cliff Sarginson To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Always mystified by this. /stand file sizes Message-ID: <20021202112131.GA1102@raggedclown.net> References: <20021202063814.GA580@raggedclown.net> <20021202102559.GA778@HAL9000.homeunix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021202102559.GA778@HAL9000.homeunix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS 0.3.12pre8 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 02:25:59AM -0800, David Schultz wrote: > Thus spake Cliff Sarginson : > > I have been meaning to ask this since I started using FreeBSD but have > > never dared to, since I thought I ought to know :) > > Excerpt from /stand > > > > -r-xr-xr-x 31 root wheel 1865544 Sep 18 2001 -sh > > -r-xr-xr-x 31 root wheel 1865544 Sep 18 2001 [ > > -r-xr-xr-x 31 root wheel 1865544 Sep 18 2001 arp > > -r-xr-xr-x 31 root wheel 1865544 Sep 18 2001 boot_crunch > > -r-xr-xr-x 31 root wheel 1865544 Sep 18 2001 cpio > > -r-xr-xr-x 31 root wheel 1865544 Sep 18 2001 dhclient > > .. > > etc > > > > What does this mean all these things of size 1865544. > > And where is /stand exactly ? It certainly isn't taking up all > > this space on root... > > See crunchgen(1). Oh, that looks interesting :) I never knew of such a thing, is it a well kept secret or am I not widely read-enough ? In point of fact I am slightly puzzled by /stand's existance. It says in "hier" that it is for stand-alone systems. What exactly is it referring to ? (Yes I know what stand-alone means ! But what context is this used in ?) -- Regards Cliff Sarginson The Netherlands [ This mail has been checked as virus-free ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Dec 2 3:35:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD8FD37B401 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 03:35:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from aph2k.internal.aphnet.co.uk (mailgate.aphnet.co.uk [62.49.140.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3411E43EAF for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 03:35:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rob@aphnet.co.uk) Received: from robltop.aphnet.co.uk ([192.168.5.22]) by aph2k.internal.aphnet.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 2 Dec 2002 11:30:32 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20021202113033.021e5ac0@aph2k> X-Sender: rob@aph2k X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 11:34:50 +0000 To: FreeBSD Questions From: Rob O'Donnell Subject: Re: Always mystified by this. /stand file sizes In-Reply-To: <20021202112131.GA1102@raggedclown.net> References: <20021202102559.GA778@HAL9000.homeunix.com> <20021202063814.GA580@raggedclown.net> <20021202102559.GA778@HAL9000.homeunix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-asc