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Date:      Thu,  6 May 2004 11:37:45 -0400
From:      Kenneth Culver <culverk@sweetdreamsracing.biz>
To:        Jason Andresen <jandrese@mitre.org>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: nVidia FX Support?
Message-ID:  <20040506113745.ojg9sgkkc800s8cs@www.sweetdreamsracing.biz>
In-Reply-To: <409A566A.803@mitre.org>
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Quoting Jason Andresen <jandrese@mitre.org>:

> Will Andrews wrote:
>
>> On Wed, May 05, 2004 at 11:28:57AM +0200, Dimitry Andric wrote:
>>
>>> The problem is that NVidia hasn't updated its binary-only FreeBSD
>>> driver since July 1st, 2003.  Any cards released after this date will
>>> not work properly, or at all, with this driver.  So please go bug
>>> NVidia. :)
>>>
>>> But, see also this thread:
>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-threads/2003-June/000530.html
>>>
>>> which might explain why it takes forever for new drivers to arrive. :(
>
> Ugh, reading through that thread I got a bad bad feeling that it will be
> ages before we see another NVidia driver.  The NVidia engineer is
> unwilling to proceed without his %gs register, and the FreeBSD engineers
> are unwilling to give it to him because the fast thread switching needs
> it for good performance.  The NVidia engineers needs the %gs register
> for good performance, and will not release drivers that are 10-50%
> slower than the Windows ones.
>
> It looks like the whole situation is at a standstill at the moment,
> which means we get no new drivers until the whole thing is sorted out.
> It's really distressing to see how frustrated the NVidia engineer was by
> the end of the thread.
>
I'm pretty sure that the FreeBSD people are working on TLS, which will 
allow the
nvidia people to be happy.

Ken



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