From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 19 09:58:05 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C6C4C31D0E for ; Wed, 19 Jul 2017 09:58:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from n1-vm4.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (n1-vm4.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.98.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD54E73B5A for ; Wed, 19 Jul 2017 09:58:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s2048; t=1500458114; bh=PJMsYvGHMQkE+2sfF1Z/ZXxkC7Ec6bU3G9tUTw5Tin8=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From:Subject; b=FfVSuyEc6HNs+JaN/ZxIYXBBtwwWOBMGkcr5NcWF/IWIuMo1wP/5r2t31E6zIu2HQpSNlbRFzo3TQ0FQw7nw7hkraTTD9HldAennWVTnY5ymCPOjAf5TC65hSmyhFq3s4ULT0rNUQJEydLDU3dY3eM8698LmNadviFAsbQS0J1e13Zr0pLYV/xTBM/W733/Pyup1FkoR2G8hOcQgE+ff6H1lgQUbOXvfi4tgG5ywkIhG3TSbHtka8A8jbJBPjXrvXrkI8b+/1BrdhkC8yhc2A/XC2MQqFtMZ1bQpsgzWLMRcs5b10KE8BCCd/7FLfYmR25vC3hPy32to6oNfC1Qlmg== Received: from [212.82.98.131] by n1.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Jul 2017 09:55:14 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.72] by t4.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Jul 2017 09:55:14 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp109.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Jul 2017 09:55:14 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 458974.32127.bm@smtp109.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: InZG25AVM1l0I_nervB7qmeIJ0.zgxlPe1x9IbFu5kYsK9E RA6QYenxhI6695qM6ppbdAMBXJu9PS2VsjgNFjmsubd3z0Y3JwtsH2FhUYL5 apzh4Ze2ZDsfzGtF5lT.JFvsLzPFA.ATyGHaDqihK4.yJX0EaBxFp87855Dr IYd_pQUNFiLjfa7Ys_JUv6b2JHnVKgIEW65QM5ausNgQGXzzlYWf2Cm3p_8x 7O_Oj..gDVryH4N1IY.XodbTfKwJbTWLK12BxEy41X3vHmawo2nv9fYg358w jz_sU6ElIFUnUvLBUxrjHCifsVyqcbsEgrEhI437ebap3dVJWKC38W3_L7eZ jw_.zLZsW2OMtfZs8A2j_FKjQb9zx5510bNjfL9l43fcDJcjYQVIfi7lsTzp pPXPl5v.ehN9uSYhJqEse4t6ZLR296VfK_oq509auUmgwaM3AQs3oiIuubv2 B0dZr3oQtBEvvOdKYMIRzY4WaLJXcKDKLJEa7uoQXcj5x7vxol5bn1BG0e_X d2wqyLu2o8VIZpqi7Tw91Hfl50XNc_VC.sRGOg1uSKd36F33NEcgAdovWCuM 4Z_IcyWl3Z5FQytLwD4ISja_rlbg- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 11:55:18 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can I use FreeBSD as a desktop system? Message-ID: <20170719115518.37ee2b89@archlinux.localdomain> In-Reply-To: References: <1500440247.5678.8.camel@rocketmail.com> <20170719094122.3541b41c@archlinux.localdomain> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.15.0git72 (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 09:58:05 -0000 On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 01:55:22 -0700, Jack L. wrote: >On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 12:41 AM, Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions > wrote: >> On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 00:17:49 -0700, Jack L. wrote: >>>I've been using FreeBSD as a desktop for over a decade, works great >> >> As already pointed out, it depends on the domain. A WM or a WM + DE >> and a MUA and browser works great. Professional real-time audio >> doesn't work at all. There are for sure many domains were it does a >> good job, but there are also for sure some domains were it can't be >> used. IOW the OP needs to mention what the desktop PC should be used >> for. > >Hey, I use it for pro real-time audio. My 2005 era laptop is FreeBSD >and it works great for pre-recorded radio shows or live streaming! ;) Hi, ok, the requirements for radio are not very high. Could it be used in a reasonable way for orchestra recordings with Ardour or a comparable DAW and lots of inputs and a professional audio card or to get close to sample accuracy when recording one external MIDI instrument after the other? I've got an RME card, that indeed works with FreeBSD. So at least one card that is better than a pro-sumer card works with FreeBSD. OTOH I seriously doubt that there were that many improvements that FreeBSD has got the ability to work for _all kinds_ of professional audio usage. I might be not up-to-date, OTOH after reading the latest posts to jack-devel@lists.jackaudio.org and the fact that ALSA seemingly isn't available, I've got valid doubts that anything changed within the last years. So at least recording external MIDI gear might suffer from way too much jitter. However, I've got holidays and time to follow hints, how to set up a pro-audio FreeBSD machine. Regards, Ralf