From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 13 0:21:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gw.caamora.com.au (jonath5.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.41.237]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9923514DBA for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 00:21:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jon@gw.caamora.com.au) Received: (from jon@localhost) by gw.caamora.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA01817; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 17:21:18 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jon) Message-ID: <19990613172117.D1670@caamora.com.au> Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 17:21:18 +1000 From: jonathan michaels To: Geff Hanoian Cc: aa8vb@ipass.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: burning a cd References: <19990612223456.B210@caamora.com.au> <199906121513.IAA25324@kusanagi.boing.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199906121513.IAA25324@kusanagi.boing.com>; from Geff Hanoian on Sat, Jun 12, 1999 at 08:13:50AM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD gw.caamora.com.au 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 X-Mood: i'm alive, if it counts Organisation: Caamora, PO Box 144, Rosebery NSW 1445 Australia Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jun 12, 1999 at 08:13:50AM -0700, Geff Hanoian wrote: > On 12 Jun, jonathan michaels wrote: > > to all who replied, thank you very much, > > > > On Fri, Jun 11, 1999 at 10:39:50PM -0400, Randall Hopper wrote: > >> jonathan michaels: > >> |On Thu, Jun 10, 1999 at 03:30:11PM -0700, Scott Benjamin wrote: > >> | > >> |another related question .. what sort of hardware do you guys > >> |use, i'd like to be able to get a scsi burner but don't know > >> |where to start-look for a scsi cd writer. > >> > >> I use a Ricoh 6200S. Bought a few months ago. Works great. > >> 3.2-RELEASE here. > > > > this was teh one i was desperately trying to remember, but > > couldn't. > > > > also Igor recommended these yamaha cd writers (all scsi), > > yamaha 400, 400at and teh current one being the yamaha 4416s > > (he said he hadn't personallly tried this one but that the > > earlier one the yamaha 4260 did work very well. > > 4416s here, excellent drive! to all who replied .. thank you very much, i wa struggling a week ago with this question and now i have lots of good leads and even a second source recomendation .. both ricoh and yamaha are well represented her in australia so getting some sort of cd writer fro data and audio shouldn't be a problem again thank you all who replied. regards jonathan -- =============================================================================== Jonathan Michaels PO Box 144, Rosebery, NSW 1445 Australia =========================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 13 1:43:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alice.gba.oz.au (gba-254.tmx.com.au [203.9.155.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A575C14DEC for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 01:43:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gjb-freebsd@gba.oz.au) Received: (qmail 9293 invoked by uid 1001); 13 Jun 1999 08:27:35 -0000 Message-ID: <19990613082735.9292.qmail@alice.gba.oz.au> X-Posted-By: GBA-Post 1.03 20-Sep-1998 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 5A91 6942 8CEA 9DAB B95B C249 1CE1 493B 2B5A CE30 Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 18:27:35 +1000 From: Greg Black To: John Reynolds~ Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , "Kenneth D. Merry" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is the CD driver supposed to attach() now regardless of media? References: <14177.13953.82252.18827@hip186.ch.intel.com> <75485.929125556@zippy.cdrom.com> <14177.22897.138261.369110@hip186.ch.intel.com> In-reply-to: <14177.22897.138261.369110@hip186.ch.intel.com> of Fri, 11 Jun 1999 11:46:09 MST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > If you have media in the drives at probe time, then sysinstall is happy. If > you don't have media at probe time (but DO have the media in the drive well > ahead of chosing the "media" option within sysinstall), Kenneth was saying > that the drivers still attach() but then sysinstall is confused. There is some weird breakage in the 3.1 sysinstall even when the media is in the drive at boot time. I was going to report it, but got sidetracked after I finally tricked sysinstall into completing. Then I started using the box for some of my own development and have now forgotten the details. Since my 3.2 CDs should arrive soon, I'm holding off doing anything unless the problem persists in 3.2. Here's what I can remember. Simple box, with three devices on one SCSI controller (disk, tape and CD). It and its four sister machines have all installed 2.2.6, 2.2.7 and 2.2.8 from the CDs several times with no problems of any kind. Went through the basic standard process I use with 3.1 (pretty much full install of everything with sources) and it refused to load any software when I told it to go ahead, because it could not find the CD -- but I didn't write down the message at the time as I planned to do a full re-run for documentation purposes and never did it. The irritating thing was that it had booted from the CD and got sysinstall and anything else it was using up to that point from the CD. I went back and forwards through several menus in different ways, rebooted dozens of times, and eventually discovered a way that I could repeat by which I could get it to not produce this error and to perform the install. I'm sorry this is a useless report (which is why I've held off making it), but I simply did not have time to do the right thing at the time. However, if it happens with 3.2 when the CDs arrive, I will most definitely document it and make a proper report. -- Greg Black -- or Fight censorship in Australia: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 13 3:42:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B04114DCD for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 03:42:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from yedi.iaf.nl (uucp@localhost) by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with UUCP id MAA08558; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 12:07:10 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA72055; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 12:05:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wilko) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199906131005.MAA72055@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: Is the CD driver supposed to attach() now regardless of media? In-Reply-To: <19990612234414.E17731@paert.tse-online.de> from Andreas Braukmann at "Jun 12, 1999 11:44:14 pm" To: braukmann@tse-online.de (Andreas Braukmann) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 12:05:07 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-pgp-info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As Andreas Braukmann wrote ... > ... sorry, ... I really should have noted this in my earlier > message on this topic. > > > On Fri, Jun 11, 1999 at 09:30:02PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > My experience is that as long as the CD is in the drive before you boot > > the floppy sysinstall is happy. Put the CD in later and all bets are off. > > This has been the case as long as I remember. > ... we tried all combinations ( 2940AU, Yamaha CRW4416 ) : > - floppy boot, with medium in the the cd > - floppy boot, without medium in the cd > - cd-boot > - cd-boot and taking out the cd direct after boot > and back in later > - waiting a few minutes before selecting the > installation media in sysinstall > > The 3.1-release installation kernel wasn't able to attach > the yamaha drive to cd0. Maybe the Yamaha, being a CDRW drive does not report itself as a CD after boot/SCSI bus reset? Just guessing here.. -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands - Powered by FreeBSD - |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte WWW : http://www.tcja.nl http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 13 5:19:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4421714F30 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 05:19:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-5-174.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.134.174]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA18069 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 08:19:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id IAA16038 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 08:20:40 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 08:20:40 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: burning a cd Message-ID: <19990613082040.A15977@ipass.net> References: <19990612104520.A26298@pir.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Mike Meyer on Sat, Jun 12, 1999 at 08:15:29PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Meyer: |On Sat, 12 Jun 1999, Peter Radcliffe wrote: |> I've got a Yamaha 400t, can't say enough good things about it ... |> If I replace it with a CD-RW, it'll be another Yamaha. | |I've got a Yamah 4260 - and find that it's *incredibly* finicky about |the blanks. Some name brand disks - Memorex, for example - don't |produce reliable disks. None of the generics (Imation, HiQ, etc.) seem That's one nice thing I've found about the Ricoh. I've never had problems with any brand of blanks. I pick up whatever's selling for "$X with an $X rebate" :-), so I have a wide selection. If they're going to "give" them away, I just can't refuse. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 13 5:35: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail0.atl.bellsouth.net (mail0.atl.bellsouth.net [205.152.0.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0778614C8F for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 05:35:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wghicks@bellsouth.net) Received: from wghicks.bellsouth.net (host-209-214-76-93.atl.bellsouth.net [209.214.76.93]) by mail0.atl.bellsouth.net (8.8.8-spamdog/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA25307 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 08:34:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wghicks (wghicks@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wghicks.bellsouth.net (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA07604; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 08:37:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wghicks@wghicks.bellsouth.net) Message-Id: <199906131237.IAA07604@bellsouth.net> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: wghicks@wghicks.bellsouth.net Subject: Re: burning a cd In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 13 Jun 1999 08:20:40 EDT." <19990613082040.A15977@ipass.net> Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 08:37:47 -0400 From: W Gerald Hicks Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is there a way to update the firmware of a Yamaha drive using only FreeBSD? I don't even *have* a DOS or Windows system. :) My 400T has never worked for me, but the firmware is very old too. Cheers, Jerry Hicks wghicks@bellsouth.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 13 8:22:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67B6014C98 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 08:22:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 10tC5p-0000Vn-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 11:22:41 -0400 Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 11:22:41 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: burning a cd Message-ID: <19990613112241.A1921@pir.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <19990613082040.A15977@ipass.net> <199906131237.IAA07604@bellsouth.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199906131237.IAA07604@bellsouth.net>; from W Gerald Hicks on Sun, Jun 13, 1999 at 08:37:47AM -0400 X-fish: < Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG W Gerald Hicks probably said: > Is there a way to update the firmware of a Yamaha drive > using only FreeBSD? I don't even *have* a DOS or Windows > system. :) > > My 400T has never worked for me, but the firmware is very > old too. Get the dos upgrade thing, unpack it on another machine and put it on a dos bootable floppy ? There isn't a UNIX upgrade method for them, as far as I know, I just do it from DOS. P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@shore.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 13 9: 5:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kusanagi.boing.com (silver234.mminternet.com [209.241.149.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC57414EAC for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 09:05:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from boing@kusanagi.boing.com) Received: (from boing@localhost) by kusanagi.boing.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA28428; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 09:06:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from boing) Message-Id: <199906131606.JAA28428@kusanagi.boing.com> Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 09:06:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Geff Hanoian Subject: Re: burning a cd To: wghicks@bellsouth.net Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199906131237.IAA07604@bellsouth.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 13 Jun, W Gerald Hicks wrote: > > Is there a way to update the firmware of a Yamaha drive > using only FreeBSD? I don't even *have* a DOS or Windows > system. :) > > My 400T has never worked for me, but the firmware is very > old too. > > Cheers, > > Jerry Hicks > wghicks@bellsouth.net > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message I've done this by making an MSDUD boot floppy and copying the yamaha image to the floppy disk. Course, you have to reboot, but hey. Geff To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 13 10:26:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from neutron.cichlids.com (as7-005.rp-plus.de [149.221.239.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A521715235 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 10:26:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@cichlids.com) Received: from cichlids.cichlids.com (cichlids.cichlids.com [192.168.0.10]) by neutron.cichlids.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA89128; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 18:00:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from alex@cichlids.com) Received: (from alex@localhost) by cichlids.cichlids.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA65510; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 18:00:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from alex) From: Alexander Langer Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 18:00:08 +0200 To: Peter Radcliffe Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: burning a cd Message-ID: <19990613180008.A65479@cichlids.cichlids.com> References: <19990613082040.A15977@ipass.net> <199906131237.IAA07604@bellsouth.net> <19990613112241.A1921@pir.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <19990613112241.A1921@pir.net> X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thus spake Peter Radcliffe (pir@pir.net): > Get the dos upgrade thing, unpack it on another machine and put > it on a dos bootable floppy ? > There isn't a UNIX upgrade method for them, as far as I know, I just > do it from DOS. Beside the firmware stuff - Today I wanted to burn an audio-cd, but I failed while doing the images... I can read in data-cds, only audio doesn't work. Strange. Any idea? wdc0: unit 1 (atapi): , removable, intr, dma, iordis wcd0: drive speed 1377KB/sec, 2048KB cache wcd0: supported read types: CD-R, CD-RW, CD-DA wcd0: supported write types: CD-R, test write wcd0: Audio: play, 2 volume levels wcd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray wcd0: Medium: CD-ROM 120mm data disc loaded, unlocked (there really was a data-disk inside on bootup) alex:~/mp3> dd if=/dev/wcd0c dd: /dev/wcd0c: Input/output error 0+0 records in 0+0 records out 0 bytes transferred in 0.001014 secs (0 bytes/sec) The same for some different bs's What do I do wrong? Thnx Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 13 11:13:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ignatz.north.gencon.com (ignatz.north.gencon.com [199.33.251.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9D3214C85 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 11:13:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nick@kolia.north.gencon.com) Received: from kolia.north.gencon.com (kolia.north.gencon.com [199.33.251.73]) by ignatz.north.gencon.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06107 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 14:13:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3763F4D4.4D17E03F@kolia.north.gencon.com> Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 14:13:40 -0400 From: "Nikolai E. Wendorf" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: open files Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greetings All, A friend recently asked about the following: System is 3.2-RELEASE, and this keeps coming up in /var/log/messages: Jun 13 07:32:52 fw1 syslogd: /var/run/utmp: Too many open files in system Jun 13 07:32:52 fw1 syslogd: /var/run/utmp: Too many open files in system Kernel was built for 32 users, it is a firewall only machine with 0 users. On previous 2.2.8 system I used to build the kernel with: options CHILD_MAX=384 options OPEN_MAX=512 I believe the answer lies in login.conf but since I've not gone to the 3. yet I thought a sanity check was in order. Thanks, Nick ******************************************************************************* Nikolai E. Wendorf, KJ4RD nick@kolia.north.gencon.com ******************************************************************************* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 13 12: 4: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 808BA14C38 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 12:04:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) id VAA32742; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 21:03:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: "Nikolai E. Wendorf" Cc: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: open files References: <3763F4D4.4D17E03F@kolia.north.gencon.com> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 13 Jun 1999 21:03:54 +0200 In-Reply-To: "Nikolai E. Wendorf"'s message of "Sun, 13 Jun 1999 14:13:40 -0400" Message-ID: Lines: 9 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Nikolai E. Wendorf" writes: > Jun 13 07:32:52 fw1 syslogd: /var/run/utmp: Too many open files in system > Jun 13 07:32:52 fw1 syslogd: /var/run/utmp: Too many open files in system sysctl -w kern.maxfiles=2048 DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 13 13:29: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E7C114E29 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 13:28:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from rainbow5.scientia.demon.co.uk ([192.168.1.2] ident=exim) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 10tFfm-0001oq-00; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 20:12:02 +0100 (envelope-from ben@rainbow5.scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from rainbow5.scientia.demon.co.uk (ident=ben) by rainbow5.scientia.demon.co.uk with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 10tFfm-0000iI-00; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 20:12:02 +0100 (envelope-from ben@rainbow5.scientia.demon.co.uk) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 20:12:02 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst To: "Nikolai E. Wendorf" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: open files Message-ID: <19990613201202.A2709@rainbow5.scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <3763F4D4.4D17E03F@kolia.north.gencon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <3763F4D4.4D17E03F@kolia.north.gencon.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nikolai E. Wendorf wrote: > System is 3.2-RELEASE, and this keeps coming up in /var/log/messages: > > Jun 13 07:32:52 fw1 syslogd: /var/run/utmp: Too many open files in system > Jun 13 07:32:52 fw1 syslogd: /var/run/utmp: Too many open files in system > > Kernel was built for 32 users, it is a firewall only > machine with 0 users. On previous 2.2.8 system I used > to build the kernel with: > options CHILD_MAX=384 > options OPEN_MAX=512 CHILD_MAX and OPEN_MAX aren't used in 3.x systems. The max number of processes (NPROC) is defined as (20 + 16 * MAXUSERS), MAXFILES is (2 * NPROC). So with maxusers 32, you should be able to have 1000-ish open files. Try increasing maxusers (say, to 64) and see if that helps matters. (These definitions are in /sys/conf/param.c) > I believe the answer lies in login.conf but since I've not gone to the 3. > yet I thought a sanity check was in order. login.conf can only set limits for specific classes, AFAIK, and cannot increase the limits above the limits set at kernel compile time. -- Ben Smithurst | PGP: 0x99392F7D ben@scientia.demon.co.uk | key available from keyservers and | ben+pgp@scientia.demon.co.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 13 15:33: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C88EB14F65 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 15:33:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from rainbow5.scientia.demon.co.uk ([192.168.1.2] ident=exim) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 10tHGK-0002Bq-00; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 21:53:53 +0100 (envelope-from ben@rainbow5.scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from rainbow5.scientia.demon.co.uk (ident=ben) by rainbow5.scientia.demon.co.uk with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 10tHGL-0000qF-00; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 21:53:53 +0100 (envelope-from ben@rainbow5.scientia.demon.co.uk) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 21:53:52 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: open files Message-ID: <19990613215352.A3211@rainbow5.scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <3763F4D4.4D17E03F@kolia.north.gencon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > "Nikolai E. Wendorf" writes: >> Jun 13 07:32:52 fw1 syslogd: /var/run/utmp: Too many open files in system >> Jun 13 07:32:52 fw1 syslogd: /var/run/utmp: Too many open files in system > > sysctl -w kern.maxfiles=2048 Oh, so that does work. Has that always worked, when trying to increase the limit above the limit set when the kernel was compiled? I'm sure I tried doing that a while back (probably a 2.2.x system, 5 <= x <= 7) and it didn't seem to work, perhaps my tests were flawed. -- Ben Smithurst | PGP: 0x99392F7D ben@scientia.demon.co.uk | key available from keyservers and | ben+pgp@scientia.demon.co.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 13 16: 8:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from s8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5BDC14D2A for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 16:08:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from localhost (jcw@localhost) by s8-37-26.student.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA27541 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 09:12:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) X-Authentication-Warning: s8-37-26.student.washington.edu: jcw owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 09:12:41 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jcw@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: FreeBSD-stable Subject: Huge Kernel Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I recently received a "File System Full" message for / on a 3.2-STABLE box. Upon investigating, I discovered that a recently built kernel was almost 8 MB. I am not sure when the kernels got so big because my kernel.old from who knows when was also huge. Has something changed in the kernel build procedure that would cause this? Have I missed some new feature? Thank You, | "Those who would trade freedom for security deserve neither Jason Wells | freedom nor security." - Benjamin Franklin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 13 16:56:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from trooper.velocet.ca (trooper.velocet.net [209.167.225.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6B8A14D3A for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 16:56:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@trooper.velocet.ca) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by trooper.velocet.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA01848; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 19:56:33 -0400 (EDT) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14180.17712.668891.943774@trooper.velocet.ca> Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 19:56:32 -0400 (EDT) To: "Jason C. Wells" Cc: FreeBSD-stable Subject: Huge Kernel In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.71 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "Jason" == Jason C Wells writes: Jason> I recently received a "File System Full" message for / on a Jason> 3.2-STABLE box. Upon investigating, I discovered that a Jason> recently built kernel was almost 8 MB. I am not sure when the Jason> kernels got so big because my kernel.old from who knows when Jason> was also huge. Jason> Has something changed in the kernel build procedure that would Jason> cause this? Have I missed some new feature? The only thing that comes to mind is enabling debugging symbols. When you add -g to a kernel, the size grows a bit :). Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 13 17:33:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from imc01.ex.nus.edu.sg (imc01.ex.nus.edu.sg [137.132.14.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B901C14C35; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 17:33:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ccegongw@nus.edu.sg) Received: by imc01.ex.nus.edu.sg with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 08:34:22 +0800 Message-ID: <762388C091FAD01180FF00A024621378E8EEF8@exs01.ex.nus.edu.sg> From: Gong Wei To: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Cc: "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: *BSD init scripts Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 08:34:30 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01BEB5FD.A55BEDF2" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01BEB5FD.A55BEDF2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Hi, I have a special requirement for starting and shutting down a particular daemon. For starting up no problem, I can create a file abc.sh in /usr/local/etc/rc.d. But what about shutting down the daemon? It cannot be simply killed by -15 or -9. Some custom action must be taken place before the daemon got killed. Is there any way to achieve this? I tried to put in some instructions in /etc/rc.shutdown, but it seems that this script (rc.shutdown) didn't get called at all if I use reboot/shutdown -r now/shutdown -h now/halt to stop the system. However, if I press Ctl-Alt-Del this script did get called. I am using Release 3.2 on Intel platform, if this matters. ------_=_NextPart_000_01BEB5FD.A55BEDF2 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="Gong Wei.vcf" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Gong Wei.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Wei;Gong;;; FN:Gong Wei ORG:National University of Singapore; TITLE:Analyst Programmer TEL;WORK;VOICE:+65 8746421 TEL;PAGER;VOICE:+65 94963742 TEL;WORK;FAX:+65 7780198 ADR;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:;;Computer Centre=0D=0ANational University of Singapore=0D=0A2 Engineering D= rive 4;Singapore;;117584;Singapore LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:Computer Centre=0D=0ANational University of Singapore=0D=0A2 Engineering Dri= ve 4=0D=0ASingapore, 117584=0D=0ASingapore EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:ccegongw@nus.edu.sg REV:19990518T103531Z END:VCARD ------_=_NextPart_000_01BEB5FD.A55BEDF2-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 13 18: 2:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from thelab.hub.org (nat192.211.mpoweredpc.net [142.177.192.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AD3B14C35; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 18:02:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA25268; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 22:02:13 -0300 (ADT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 22:02:13 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: Matthew Dillon Cc: "David E. Cross" , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MMAP() in STABLE/CURRENT ... In-Reply-To: <199906130459.VAA65612@apollo.backplane.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 12 Jun 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote: > :Anyway, I have a simple program that mmap()s a 1Gig file into memory, > :madvise()s it that it will be doing random access. If I quit and restart > :this program a couple of times (yes, it close()s and munmap()s the segment), > :my system will hard lock. By dropping into DDB once I found that it was > :stuck in 'vm_somethingorother_choosepage'. Does this ring any bells? Should > :I try to stop my system again? > : > :-- > :David Cross | email: crossd@cs.rpi.edu > > David, can you email this program to me please? > > Also, which FreeBSD release does this occur on? > > I've got about 6 mmap-related bugs on my plate at the moment. 3 of them > have been identified ( that is, I know why they deadlock the machine ), > but none have been fixed yet. Matt, I'll volunteer myself as a tester for this code under 3.2-STABLE, when you have it ready... Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 13 18: 5: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A483C14BE7 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 18:04:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aw1@stade.co.uk) Received: from stade.demon.co.uk ([158.152.29.164]) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10tLBF-000LFj-0C; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 01:04:54 +0000 Received: from mervyn.stade.co.uk (mervyn.stade.co.uk [192.168.1.8]) by stade.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA27605; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 01:08:02 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from aw1@mervyn.stade.co.uk) Received: (from aw1@localhost) by mervyn.stade.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA04710; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 01:04:26 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from aw1) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 01:04:26 +0100 From: Adrian Wontroba To: "Jason C. Wells" Cc: FreeBSD-stable Subject: Re: Huge Kernel Message-ID: <19990614010426.C4609@mervyn.stade.co.uk> Reply-To: aw1@stade.co.uk References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.5i In-Reply-To: ; from Jason C. Wells on Sun, Jun 13, 1999 at 09:12:41AM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE Organization: Yes, I need some of that. X-Phone: +(44) 121 681 6677 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jun 13, 1999 at 09:12:41AM -0700, Jason C. Wells wrote: > I recently received a "File System Full" message for / on a 3.2-STABLE > box. Upon investigating, I discovered that a recently built kernel was > almost 8 MB. I am not sure when the kernels got so big because my > kernel.old from who knows when was also huge. Are you running config with the "-g" for debugging flag by any chance? For me, this gives an 8 MB kernel (which I save, and prepare a stripped version for use). Sizes after "cp kernel kernel.debug; strip -g kernel" in the compilation directory. -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1813580 Jun 12 18:42 kernel -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 8895826 Jun 12 18:42 kernel.debug -- Adrian Wontroba To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 13 18:22:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cs.rpi.edu (mumble.cs.rpi.edu [128.213.8.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 894BC14C95; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 18:22:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crossd@cs.rpi.edu) Received: from cs.rpi.edu (monica.cs.rpi.edu [128.213.7.2]) by cs.rpi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA02659; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 21:22:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199906140122.VAA02659@cs.rpi.edu> To: The Hermit Hacker Cc: Matthew Dillon , "David E. Cross" , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, crossd@cs.rpi.edu Subject: Re: MMAP() in STABLE/CURRENT ... In-Reply-To: Message from The Hermit Hacker of "Sun, 13 Jun 1999 22:02:13 -0300." Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 21:22:00 -0400 From: "David E. Cross" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Here's the code: #include #include #include #include #include #include #define DBSIZE 733055625 int main(void) { int fd; unsigned char *dbp; fd=open(argv[1], O_CREAT | O_RDWR | O_TRUNC, 0600); lseek(fd, DBSIZE -1, SEEK_SET); write(fd, &fd, 1); dbp=mmap(NULL, DBSIZE, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_SHARED, fd, 0); close (fd); memset(dbp, 0, DBSIZE); munmap(dbp, DBSIZE); return 0; } } To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 13 19:18: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from unreal.gatekeep.net (gatekeep.net [209.17.177.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B699714E92 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 19:17:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@unreal.gatekeep.net) Received: from localhost (freebsd@localhost) by unreal.gatekeep.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA76800 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 19:11:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 19:11:01 -0700 (PDT) From: freebsd To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Finish'd Upgrading, 'passwd' don't work Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just upgraded my production server from FreeBSD3.1-Release to FreeBSD3.2-Stable When a user changes their password it updates passwd.master etc, but the user can no longer login (this has to be a problem with encyription...) but yet, users can login with thier old password Any Ideas? ******************************************************************* Gate Keeper Technologies Brandon Hicks System Administrator bhicks@gatekeep.net - Personal freebsd@gatekeep.net - FreeBSD Lists/Help (903)882-9559 www.gatekeep.net ******************************************************************* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 13 23:34:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sturm.canonware.com (canonware.com [204.107.140.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA10E14C30 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 23:34:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jasone@canonware.com) Received: from localhost (jasone@localhost) by sturm.canonware.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA13204 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 23:24:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jasone@canonware.com) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 23:24:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Evans To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Kernel panic with mmap() and VM_STACK Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG While experimenting with growable stacks in libc_r, I discovered that the following program reliably causes a panic in vm_map_stack() for -stable as of today and 3.2-release (but it works fine for -current as of yesterday). I've looked through the code, and with my less than adequate knowledge of the VM, guessed that the problem is actually occurring in the call to vm_map_insert(). However, I'm having difficulties getting remote debugging to work, ddb is a mystery to me, and the weekend is over, so maybe someone else can take a look at this. The stack trace is: panic ("Bad entry start/end for new stack entry") vm_map_stack vm_mmap mmap syscall A related question: why does mmap() fail with MAP_STACK if a NULL pointer is specified? I'm guessing that it's because pages aren't actually committed for the mapping until they are faulted, thus it's the user's responsibility to choose a location that doesn't cause conflicts with other mappings. The program: ------ #include #include #include #include int main() { void * addr; addr = mmap((void *) 0x280e2000, 8192, PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE, MAP_STACK, -1, 0); if (MAP_FAILED == addr) { printf("mmap() error: %s\n", strerror(errno)); } else { printf("mmap() returned space at %p\n", addr); } return 0; } ------ Jason Jason Evans http://www.canonware.com/~jasone Home phone: (650) 856-8204 Work phone: (415) 808-8742 "I once knew a happy medium. Her name was Zohar." - James Foster To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 13 23:54: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FB2514EBD for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 23:54:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA17936; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 23:53:58 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <199906140653.XAA17936@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: open files In-Reply-To: from Dag-Erling Smorgrav at "Jun 13, 99 09:03:54 pm" To: des@flood.ping.uio.no (Dag-Erling Smorgrav) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 23:53:58 -0700 (MST) Cc: nick@kolia.north.gencon.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > "Nikolai E. Wendorf" writes: > > Jun 13 07:32:52 fw1 syslogd: /var/run/utmp: Too many open files in system > > Jun 13 07:32:52 fw1 syslogd: /var/run/utmp: Too many open files in system > > sysctl -w kern.maxfiles=2048 > > DES > -- > Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no Is there a single place where one can find all the kernel tunables and reasonable min/max values for them? Something like the [ms]tune files in /etc/conf/cf.d on a SysV machine? -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org chad@anasazi.com larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 0: 7:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [209.157.86.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81AC814EBD; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 00:07:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id AAA06800; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 00:07:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 00:07:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199906140707.AAA06800@apollo.backplane.com> To: "David E. Cross" Cc: The Hermit Hacker , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, crossd@cs.rpi.edu Subject: Re: MMAP() in STABLE/CURRENT ... References: <199906140122.VAA02659@cs.rpi.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :Here's the code: : :#include :#include :#include :#include :#include :#include : :#define DBSIZE 733055625 : :int main(void) :{ : int fd; : unsigned char *dbp; : : fd=open(argv[1], O_CREAT | O_RDWR | O_TRUNC, 0600); : lseek(fd, DBSIZE -1, SEEK_SET); : write(fd, &fd, 1); : dbp=mmap(NULL, DBSIZE, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_SHARED, fd, 0); : close (fd); : memset(dbp, 0, DBSIZE); : munmap(dbp, DBSIZE); : return 0; :} :} Someone asked me at USENIX what would happen if the filesystem filled up due to someone mmap'ing a file shared and then filled in its holes by modifying the mmaping. In your tests, are you intentionally filling up the filesystem? You appear to be writing a rather large file - 733MB. I'm just trying to narrow down where the bug is... the system isn't supposed to panic or deadlock even if you do fill up the filesystem. Your test program may also be hitting another known bug: If you dirty the pages underlying a mapped file the system does not currently limit the number of pages that can be dirtied. It is possible to eat up all available memory and cause a deadlock to occur when the system is unable to write the pages out to the file due to blocking on the access to the file's indirect blocks. Actually, I think this is the more likely scenario. This bug is already on my list. -Matt Matthew Dillon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 0:12:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA50C14BD4 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 00:12:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA56148; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:12:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: chad@DCFinc.com Cc: nick@kolia.north.gencon.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: open files References: <199906140653.XAA17936@freeway.dcfinc.com> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 14 Jun 1999 09:12:49 +0200 In-Reply-To: "Chad R. Larson"'s message of "Sun, 13 Jun 1999 23:53:58 -0700 (MST)" Message-ID: Lines: 10 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Chad R. Larson" writes: > Is there a single place where one can find all the kernel tunables > and reasonable min/max values for them? Something like the [ms]tune > files in /etc/conf/cf.d on a SysV machine? /usr/src/sys DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 0:16: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [209.157.86.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA63C14BD4; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 00:15:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id AAA06844; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 00:15:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 00:15:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199906140715.AAA06844@apollo.backplane.com> To: The Hermit Hacker Cc: "David E. Cross" , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MMAP() in STABLE/CURRENT ... References: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :> :> David, can you email this program to me please? :> :> Also, which FreeBSD release does this occur on? :> :> I've got about 6 mmap-related bugs on my plate at the moment. 3 of them :> have been identified ( that is, I know why they deadlock the machine ), :> but none have been fixed yet. : :Matt, I'll volunteer myself as a tester for this code under 3.2-STABLE, :when you have it ready... : :Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy :Systems Administrator @ hub.org :primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org I'll let the lists know when patches are available. It may be a while (like a week), I still have a lot of catching-up to do after being at USENIX all last week and my commit privs still need to be resolved. -Matt Matthew Dillon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 0:21:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mel.alcatel.fr (mel.alcatel.fr [212.208.74.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B909515280 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 00:21:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr) Received: from aifhs2.alcatel.fr (mailhub.alcatel.fr [155.132.180.80]) by mel.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP) with ESMTP id IAA20791; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 08:18:44 +0200 Received: from lune.telspace.alcatel.fr (lune.telspace.alcatel.fr [155.132.144.65]) by aifhs2.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP2) with ESMTP id JAA04310; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:15:51 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from telss1 (telss1.telspace.alcatel.fr [155.132.51.4]) by lune.telspace.alcatel.fr (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA22462; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:14:30 +0200 (MEST) Received: from telspace.alcatel.fr by telss1 (8.8.8+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id JAA24408; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:19:29 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3764AE53.4FB4A94A@telspace.alcatel.fr> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:25:07 +0200 From: Thierry Herbelot Reply-To: thierry.herbelot@alcatel.fr Organization: Alcatel CIT Nanterre X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jonathan michaels Cc: Geff Hanoian , aa8vb@ipass.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: burning a cd References: <19990612223456.B210@caamora.com.au> <199906121513.IAA25324@kusanagi.boing.com> <19990613172117.D1670@caamora.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, This is just for the record (to get it archived) I found out that you need the "pass" device when you use cdrecord with SCSI CD burners (this could be in pkg/DESCR ?) There are two ways for burning CDs : - an ATAPI burner is directly driven via the acd device and wormcontrol (just like the example scripts show) - an SCSI burner is only usable via cdrecord (and the "pass" device) - the example script in share/examples/worm is confusing in using the deprecated scsi(8) command and wormcontrol after that : cd(4), the SCSI cd driver, does not support WORM ioctls Anyway, cdrecord seems to be working (I've got at least one defective CD out of ten) and mkhybrid is a good help for mastering Joliet CDs. TfH jonathan michaels wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 12, 1999 at 08:13:50AM -0700, Geff Hanoian wrote: > > On 12 Jun, jonathan michaels wrote: > > > to all who replied, thank you very much, > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 11, 1999 at 10:39:50PM -0400, Randall Hopper wrote: > > >> jonathan michaels: > > >> |On Thu, Jun 10, 1999 at 03:30:11PM -0700, Scott Benjamin wrote: > > >> | > > >> |another related question .. what sort of hardware do you guys > > >> |use, i'd like to be able to get a scsi burner but don't know > > >> |where to start-look for a scsi cd writer. > > >> > > >> I use a Ricoh 6200S. Bought a few months ago. Works great. > > >> 3.2-RELEASE here. > > > > > > this was teh one i was desperately trying to remember, but > > > couldn't. > > > > > > also Igor recommended these yamaha cd writers (all scsi), > > > yamaha 400, 400at and teh current one being the yamaha 4416s > > > (he said he hadn't personallly tried this one but that the > > > earlier one the yamaha 4260 did work very well. > > > > 4416s here, excellent drive! > > to all who replied .. thank you very much, i wa struggling a > week ago with this question and now i have lots of good leads > and even a second source recomendation .. both ricoh and yamaha > are well represented her in australia so getting some sort of > cd writer fro data and audio shouldn't be a problem > > again thank you all who replied. > > regards > > jonathan > > -- > =============================================================================== > Jonathan Michaels > PO Box 144, Rosebery, NSW 1445 Australia > =========================================================== > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Thierry Herbelot Phone : (+33) 1 46 52 47 23 Home Page : http://perso.cybercable.fr/herbelot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 0:24: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from server.research.zopps.fi (ws99.research.zopps.fi [195.165.196.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2A4C14BD4 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 00:24:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from martti@research.zopps.fi) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by server.research.zopps.fi (8.9.3/8.8.8) id KAA65902 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:23:04 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from martti.kuparinen) Received: from ws125.research.zopps.fi(195.165.196.125) via SMTP by ws99.research.zopps.fi, id smtpdf65800; Mon Jun 14 10:23:02 1999 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:23:01 +0300 (EEST) From: Martti Kuparinen To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Lockups: should I go back to 2.2.8 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG While running tripwire in our server, the system locked up (well, in fact the load went up to 600+ and the whole system became unusable, so it was not a panic or dead-lock). The operating system is 3.2-STABLE and "make world" was performed last friday. The host is NFS server with small average load. The question is: if I need a rock-solid system as it is our main server for 20 people, should I downgrade to 2.2.8-STABLE? I think I can't afford to wait for the VM thing to be fixed, but I don't know if 228-S has similar symptoms, i.e. do I win something by going back to 228-S? Martti To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 0:34:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from piranha.eds.ch (piranha.eds.ch [194.235.48.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7C4B814A0B for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 00:34:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roberto.nunnari@agie.ch) Received: from helium.eds.ch by piranha.eds.ch (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA27090; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:28:56 +0200 Received: from agie.ch ([198.132.159.194]) by helium.eds.ch (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id AAA64FC; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:37:39 -0100 Message-ID: <3764B0A4.D1B24E67@agie.ch> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:35:00 +0200 From: "nunnari" Organization: AGIE X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Raymond Wiker , stable Subject: Re: forgot root password!! References: <375F8E67.B7399D8B@agie.ch> <14179.39034.660019.995295@foobar.orion.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks very much to everybody for so many helpful replies. I'll try it out right this evening. Best regards. -- Roberto Nunnari -software engineer- mailto:roberto.nunnari@agie.ch AGIE - http://www.agie.com Via dei pioppi 16 tel: +41-91-8069138 6616 Losone """ Switzerland (o o) =======================oOO==(_)==OOo======================== MY OPNIONS ARE NOT NECESSARELY THOSE OF MY EMPLOYER To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 0:54:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gw.caamora.com.au (jonath5.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.41.237]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73E4614C11 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 00:54:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jon@gw.caamora.com.au) Received: (from jon@localhost) by gw.caamora.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA03857; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 17:54:37 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jon) Message-ID: <19990614175436.B3802@caamora.com.au> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 17:54:36 +1000 From: jonathan michaels To: thierry.herbelot@alcatel.fr Cc: Geff Hanoian , aa8vb@ipass.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: burning a cd References: <19990612223456.B210@caamora.com.au> <199906121513.IAA25324@kusanagi.boing.com> <19990613172117.D1670@caamora.com.au> <3764AE53.4FB4A94A@telspace.alcatel.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <3764AE53.4FB4A94A@telspace.alcatel.fr>; from Thierry Herbelot on Mon, Jun 14, 1999 at 09:25:07AM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD gw.caamora.com.au 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 X-Mood: i'm alive, if it counts Organisation: Caamora, PO Box 144, Rosebery NSW 1445 Australia Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 14, 1999 at 09:25:07AM +0200, Thierry Herbelot wrote: > Hello, > > This is just for the record (to get it archived) > > I found out that you need the "pass" device when you use cdrecord with > SCSI CD burners (this could be in pkg/DESCR ?) i will keep an eye out for this, thank you. > There are two ways for burning CDs : > - an ATAPI burner is directly driven via the acd device and wormcontrol > (just like the example scripts show) > - an SCSI burner is only usable via cdrecord (and the "pass" device) - > the example script in share/examples/worm is confusing in using the > deprecated scsi(8) command and wormcontrol after that : cd(4), the SCSI > cd driver, does not support WORM ioctls > > Anyway, cdrecord seems to be working (I've got at least one defective CD > out of ten) and mkhybrid is a good help for mastering Joliet CDs. this is good news thank you, i've been wondering how to do joliet cds for the ms windows clients out thier in our target audience. > TfH > > > jonathan michaels wrote: > > > > On Sat, Jun 12, 1999 at 08:13:50AM -0700, Geff Hanoian wrote: > > > On 12 Jun, jonathan michaels wrote: > > > > to all who replied, thank you very much, > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 11, 1999 at 10:39:50PM -0400, Randall Hopper wrote: > > > >> jonathan michaels: > > > >> |On Thu, Jun 10, 1999 at 03:30:11PM -0700, Scott Benjamin wrote: > > > >> | > > > >> |another related question .. what sort of hardware do you guys > > > >> |use, i'd like to be able to get a scsi burner but don't know > > > >> |where to start-look for a scsi cd writer. > > > >> > > > >> I use a Ricoh 6200S. Bought a few months ago. Works great. a small question regarding this teh ricoh 6200s its not available here in asutralia but a similar one is being sold but in its marketing droid sheet it 'proudly proclaims' to be 'plug and play' ... i've already got a unaccessible ppro because of a plug and pray smc9432tx nic i'm not keen on adding another p'npray device. i was thinking that maybe it is just the scsi host adapter that might be the plug and pray part of this 'device' ... yes ? also we have on sale here some very nice panasonic cd writers (data and audio) on real nice feature is that the panasonic will duplicate a cd without the user having to produce an iso image first. from what i understood of the sales talk, the panasonic emulates in hardware someting like a unix dump or pax or a read from the source cd device and a dd type write to the cdrom writing panasonic ... also it will write a full cdrom in only 9 or so minutes. this panasonic requires a 'real scsi host adpater, that is a aha 2940 or a '875 something like that. the 'scsi paddle boards' like the old aha 1520 and 1510's are suitable fro this cdwriter. i was given the url .. but i've misplace teh wetware sector i stored the data .. grin. i'm sure it can be found by browsing the national panasonic (a japanesse company, matshushita is teh conglomerate source). > > > > yamaha 400, 400at and teh current one being the yamaha 4416s > > > > (he said he hadn't personallly tried this one but that the > > > > earlier one the yamaha 4260 did work very well. > > > > > > 4416s here, excellent drive! both of these -- 4416 and 4260 are available here in australia for about $AUD700 this is for a glossy box lots of software and of course the cd-writer. ps the panasonic (its a 9xxx seris product id) sells for about $AUD1000 .. its not cheap but then it does a lot of things the others dont do and it is also a fast device (20x read for std mode). again thank you all who replied. regards jonathan -- =============================================================================== Jonathan Michaels PO Box 144, Rosebery, NSW 1445 Australia =========================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 1:53:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from max.difi.de (router.difi.de [194.231.78.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44E1D15255 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 01:53:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from uwe.laverenz@difi.de) Received: from edv1.difi.de (edv1.difi.de [192.168.1.54]) by max.difi.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA54384; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:53:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uwe.laverenz@difi.de) From: Uwe Laverenz Reply-To: uwe.laverenz@difi.de Organization: DIFI Dierk Filmer GmbH To: jonathan michaels Subject: Re: burning a cd Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:09:22 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.21] Content-Type: text/plain References: <19990614175436.B3802@caamora.com.au> Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <99061410533001.57175@edv1.difi.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Jonathan, > this is good news thank you, i've been wondering how to do > joliet cds for the ms windows clients out thier in our target > audience. If you install the cdrecord-port, you will find a newer version of mkisofs included, which has to be installed manually (e.g. to /usr/local/bin ). The current version (1.12b5) supports Joliet-Extensions. The binary is hidden in /usr/ports/sysutils/cdrecord/work/cdrecord-1.8/mkisofs-1.12b5/OBJ/i386-freebsd-cc Uwe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 2:29:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mel.alcatel.fr (mel.alcatel.fr [212.208.74.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47AEE14D70 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 02:29:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr) Received: from aifhs2.alcatel.fr (mailhub.alcatel.fr [155.132.180.80]) by mel.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP) with ESMTP id KAA05365; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:26:40 +0200 Received: from lune.telspace.alcatel.fr (lune.telspace.alcatel.fr [155.132.144.65]) by aifhs2.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP2) with ESMTP id LAA00183; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:23:54 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from telss1 (telss1.telspace.alcatel.fr [155.132.51.4]) by lune.telspace.alcatel.fr (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA13446; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:11:22 +0200 (MEST) Received: from telspace.alcatel.fr by telss1 (8.8.8+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id LAA28314; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:16:22 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3764C9BA.A6C9DE6A@telspace.alcatel.fr> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:22:02 +0200 From: Thierry Herbelot Reply-To: thierry.herbelot@alcatel.fr Organization: Alcatel CIT Nanterre X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: uwe.laverenz@difi.de Cc: jonathan michaels , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: burning a cd References: <19990614175436.B3802@caamora.com.au> <99061410533001.57175@edv1.difi.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, Is there any relation between mkhybrid and mkisofs ? (I've used mkhybrid to master my CDs, but I could use mkisofs) - what are the advantages / inconveniences of each package ? TfH Uwe Laverenz wrote: > > Hi Jonathan, > > > this is good news thank you, i've been wondering how to do > > joliet cds for the ms windows clients out thier in our target > > audience. > If you install the cdrecord-port, you will find a newer version of mkisofs > included, which has to be installed manually (e.g. to /usr/local/bin ). > > The current version (1.12b5) supports Joliet-Extensions. The binary is hidden in > /usr/ports/sysutils/cdrecord/work/cdrecord-1.8/mkisofs-1.12b5/OBJ/i386-freebsd-cc > > Uwe > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Thierry Herbelot Phone : (+33) 1 46 52 47 23 Home Page : http://perso.cybercable.fr/herbelot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 3:19:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gallions-reach.inpharmatica.co.uk (gallions-reach.inpharmatica.co.uk [193.115.214.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE1B8152A3 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 03:19:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from m.seaman@inpharmatica.co.uk) Received: from kings-cross.inpharmatica.co.uk (euston.inpharmatica.co.uk [193.115.214.6]) by gallions-reach.inpharmatica.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA21962; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:19:03 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@inpharmatica.co.uk) Received: from paddington.inpharmatica.co.uk (IDENT:root@paddington.inpharmatica.co.uk [192.168.122.1]) by kings-cross.inpharmatica.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10436; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:18:59 +0100 Received: from inpharmatica.co.uk (IDENT:matthew@localhost.inpharmatica.co.uk [127.0.0.1]) by paddington.inpharmatica.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA32038; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:18:59 +0100 Message-ID: <3764D713.5D8322EE@inpharmatica.co.uk> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:18:59 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.4 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Grandi Cc: obrien@NUXI.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: amd and /etc/hosts.allow References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Steve Grandi wrote: > The portion of /etc/hosts.allow that refers to portmap sure appears to me > to be sufficient to let local hosts in: > > # Portmapper is used for all RPC services; protect your NFS! > #portmap : localhost : allow > #portmap : .noao.edu : allow > #portmap : .evil.cracker.example.com : deny > portmap : ALL : allow > > Any thoughts? The next time I can play with this system, I will start > portmap with -v to see if any log entries are interesting. The common experience on other Unices using portmap+tcp_wrappers is that you can only use the keyword "ALL" or IP address/mask pairs to protect portmap -- not host or domain names or NIS netgroups. This is documented in the README that comes with the original Wietse Venema portmap_5beta code, on which I believe FreeBSD portmap is based: ftp://ftp.porcupine.org/pub/security/portmap_5beta.tar.gz The README file says, in part: > Access control: > --------------- > > By default, host access control is enabled. However, the host that runs > the portmapper is always considered authorized. The host access control > tables are never consulted with requests from the local system itself; > they are always consulted with requests from other hosts. > > In order to avoid deadlocks, the portmap program does not attempt to > look up the remote host name or user name, nor will it try to match NIS > netgroups. The upshot of all this is that only network number patterns > will work for portmap access control. > > Sample entries for the host access-control files are: > > /etc/hosts.allow: > portmap: your.sub.net.number/your.sub.net.mask > portmap: 255.255.255.255 0.0.0.0 > > /etc/hosts.deny > portmap: ALL: (/some/where/safe_finger -l @%h | mail root) & > > The syntax of the access-control files is described in the > hosts_access.5 manual page that comes with the tcp wrapper (log_tcp) > sources. The safe_finger command comes with later wrapper releases. > > The first line in the hosts.allow file permits access from all systems > within your own subnet. Some rpc services rely on broadcasts and will > contact your portmapper anyway; and once an intruder has access to your > local network segment you're already in deep trouble. > > The second line in the hosts.allow file may be needed if there are > any PC-NFS systems on your network segment. > > For security reasons, the portmap process drops root privilegs after > initialization. The access control files should therefore be readable > for group or world. Unless FreeBSD has changed portmap's behaviour in this respect, I suppose it would be a good idea to make a note of this in the sample /etc/hosts.allow file and the portmap(8) man page. Matthew -- Certe, Toto, sentio nos in Kansate non iam adesse. Dr. Matthew Seaman, Inpharmatica Ltd, 60 Charlotte St, London, W1P 2AX Tel: +44 171 631 4644 x229 Fax: +44 171 631 4844 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 3:34:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4798714DB1 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 03:34:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA62415; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 12:34:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: "Jason C. Wells" Cc: FreeBSD-stable Subject: Re: Huge Kernel References: From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 14 Jun 1999 12:34:45 +0200 In-Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells"'s message of "Sun, 13 Jun 1999 09:12:41 -0700 (PDT)" Message-ID: Lines: 13 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Jason C. Wells" writes: > I recently received a "File System Full" message for / on a 3.2-STABLE > box. Upon investigating, I discovered that a recently built kernel was > almost 8 MB. I am not sure when the kernels got so big because my > kernel.old from who knows when was also huge. When building debugging kernels, make sure you strip them before installing them. The kernel Makefile in -CURRENT does this automatically - this should probably be MFCed. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 3:39:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (hide14.nhs.uk [194.6.81.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF45814BEC for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 03:39:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@swlct.sthames.nhs.uk) Received: from greg (gquinlan [194.81.0.56]) by amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA25562 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:37:09 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <004001beb652$197abc00$380051c2@qmpgmc.ac.uk> Reply-To: "Greg Quinlan" From: "Greg Quinlan" To: References: Subject: Re: Finish'd Upgrading, 'passwd' don't work Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:38:53 +0100 Organization: Queen Mary's Hospital (SWLCT) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brandon, This may be unrelated but a similar thing happened when I upgraded from 2.2.8 to 3.1. I found that I had set "nisdomainname" to some value by mistake (ie. not using NIS should have been ""), so the system ignored the passwd.master file in similar circumstances. Greg ----- Original Message ----- From: freebsd To: Sent: 14 June 1999 03:11 Subject: Finish'd Upgrading, 'passwd' don't work > I just upgraded my production server from FreeBSD3.1-Release to > FreeBSD3.2-Stable > > When a user changes their password it updates passwd.master etc, but the > user can no longer login (this has to be a problem with encyription...) > > but yet, users can login with thier old password > > > Any Ideas? > > ******************************************************************* > Gate Keeper Technologies > Brandon Hicks System Administrator > bhicks@gatekeep.net - Personal > freebsd@gatekeep.net - FreeBSD Lists/Help > (903)882-9559 > www.gatekeep.net > ******************************************************************* > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 5:16:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from imc01.ex.nus.edu.sg (imc01.ex.nus.edu.sg [137.132.14.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D27214C18; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 05:16:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ccegongw@nus.edu.sg) Received: by imc01.ex.nus.edu.sg with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 20:16:36 +0800 Message-ID: <762388C091FAD01180FF00A024621378E8EF04@exs01.ex.nus.edu.sg> From: Gong Wei To: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Cc: "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: *BSD init scripts Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 20:16:33 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, So far I have received a few replies from the list, first of all thank you all for your time! Probably I didn't phase my question correctly. Here let me try again. I am looking for a customizable script that init will call upon shutting down and/or rebooting, *BEFORE* sending TERM signal to running processes. In SysV world(Sorry for this as all along I was using SysV variant like Linux/Solaris) there is something called runlevel. So rebooting is actually going to run level 6 whereas shutting down (halt) is going to runlevel 0. This process will call all K* scripts in the corresponding directory with a "stop" argument. Then it will send TERM signal (15) to all running process. Someone suggested me to change the script to accept one possible argument "start" and/or "stop" and react accordingly. That is really not an issue at all, the issue is whether the script will ever be called with a "stop" argument or not. I know that on 3.2-RELEASE, all /usr/local/etc/rc.d/*.sh will always be called with a "start" argument upon startup, but what about shutting down/reboot? Someone also suggested to modify the daemon source code to install a signal handler which is really overkill in this case. In fact what I want to do is faily simple: ================================================== case "$1" in start) mv /etc/somefilea /etc/somefileb somedir/smbd -D somedir/nmbd -D ;; stop) mv /etc/somefileb /etc/somefileb kill `cat anotherdir/nmbd.pid` kill `cat anotherdir/smbd.pid` ;; *) echo "Usage: xxxxx" exit 1 esac ================================ I hope I expressed myself clearly this time :-) -----Original Message----- From: Gong Wei [mailto:ccegongw@nus.edu.sg] Sent: Monday, June 14, 1999 8:35 AM To: 'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org' Cc: 'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org' Subject: *BSD init scripts Hi, I have a special requirement for starting and shutting down a particular daemon. For starting up no problem, I can create a file abc.sh in /usr/local/etc/rc.d. But what about shutting down the daemon? It cannot be simply killed by -15 or -9. Some custom action must be taken place before the daemon got killed. Is there any way to achieve this? I tried to put in some instructions in /etc/rc.shutdown, but it seems that this script (rc.shutdown) didn't get called at all if I use reboot/shutdown -r now/shutdown -h now/halt to stop the system. However, if I press Ctl-Alt-Del this script did get called. I am using Release 3.2 on Intel platform, if this matters. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 5:17:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gooey.bunnynet.org (pm02-s02.donet.com [216.28.193.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B038E14C18 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 05:17:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwhite@donet.com) Received: from yiff ([10.3.2.100]) by gooey.bunnynet.org (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA30040 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 08:17:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwhite@donet.com) From: "Matt White" To: Subject: Live file system CD on 3.2-R? Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 08:18:06 -0400 Message-ID: <000101beb65f$f590abc0$6402030a@bunnynet.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello... When I try to use the Live File System CD (CD two in the four CD set) from 3.2-RELEASE it informs me that this CD is for the Alpha platform, not the x86 platform. Am I doing something wrong, or is this something for the errata? Thanks, Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 6:21:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A36214BD3 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 06:21:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from revolution.3-cities.com (revolution.3-cities.com [204.203.224.155]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.3.1) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 06:23:53 -0700 Received: from 3-cities.com (kenn1181.bossig.com [208.26.241.181]) by revolution.3-cities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA14527; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 06:21:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <376501EB.52E4E180@3-cities.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 06:21:47 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@3-cities.com Organization: Columbia Basin Virtual Community Project X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matt White Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Live file system CD on 3.2-R? References: <000101beb65f$f590abc0$6402030a@bunnynet.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Matt White wrote: > > Hello... > > When I try to use the Live File System CD (CD two in the four CD set) from > 3.2-RELEASE it informs me that this CD is for the Alpha platform, not the > x86 platform. > > Am I doing something wrong, or is this something for the errata? I don't know but I inserted disk2 and typed "mount /cdrom" and then "cd /cdrom" and there were four files and a packages directory. Kent > > Thanks, > Matt > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 6:28:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from internet.madriver.k12.oh.us (madriver.k12.oh.us [156.63.175.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7019914DE2 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 06:28:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from MWhite@madriver.k12.oh.us) Received: from Mad_River-Message_Server by internet.madriver.k12.oh.us with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:27:57 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:27:34 -0400 From: "Matt White" To: Cc: Subject: Re: Live file system CD on 3.2-R? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kent; Here's what I was doing: - Boot with CD1. - Choose fixit off the main menu. - Select that you want to use a live file system CD-ROM - Insert CD2 into the drive - Hit Okay Perhaps I'm doing it the hard way? Thanks, Matt >>> Kent Stewart 06/14/99 09:21AM >>> I don't know but I inserted disk2 and typed "mount /cdrom" and then "cd /cdrom" and there were four files and a packages directory. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 6:55:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from icarus.idirect.com (icarus.idirect.com [207.136.80.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41D38152FC for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 06:55:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tMind@bigfoot.com) Received: from eniac.idirect.ca (eniac.idirect.com [207.136.80.199]) by icarus.idirect.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA04912; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:55:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gchan (fan200.fan590.com [209.250.138.200]) by eniac.idirect.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA23698; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:54:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <02d601beb66d$1401b7e0$3c29a8c0@tci.rdo> From: "Tenacious" To: "Andy McConnell" , "Gawel" Cc: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" References: Subject: Re: Https through natd? Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:51:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is it set to IP Forwading ----- Original Message ----- From: Andy McConnell To: Gawel Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sent: Saturday, June 12, 1999 1:13 PM Subject: Re: Https through natd? > natd works at layer 3. https does its magic at layer 4. > > All natd does is change the source/dest before sending tha packets, right? > > I just tested mine against an https site... no problems. > > ** You might want to make sure your natd's ipfw is open, or at least > allows connection to port 443. > > -andy > > On Sat, 12 Jun 1999, Gawel wrote: > > }Hi, > } > }Is it possible to access https sites form local network 192.168.0.0 > }through Natd? (3.2-stable) > } > }Regards, > }Gawel > } > } > } > } > } > }To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > }with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > } > > -- > Andy McConnell $B??8~N}(B $B0BEHN6(B > IP Operations Manager andym@ntt.net > Network and IP Service Division, NTT America +1 408 873 3757 > > "The laws in this city are clearly racist. All laws are racist. The law > of gravity is racist." > - M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 6:59:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bbhm.na.pg.com (bbhm.na.pg.com [192.44.184.159]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9150E152F4 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 06:59:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from babayev.r@pg.com) X-ExtMailInfo: babayev.r@notes.bdc-notes018.na.pg.com bhh5.na.pg.com [192.44.184.129] Received: from bhh5.na.pg.com (root@bhh5.na.pg.com [192.44.184.129]) by bbhm.na.pg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA08168 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:55:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bdc-notes003.na.pg.com (bdc-notes003.na.pg.com [155.125.116.11]) by bhh5.na.pg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA08614 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:58:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by bdc-notes003.na.pg.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.2 (693.3 8-11-1998)) id 85256790.004CDAE6 ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:59:27 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: PGI From: babayev.r@pg.com To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <85256790.004C9830.00@bdc-notes003.na.pg.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 15:37:34 +0400 Subject: subsribe Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subsribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 7:48:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from incadi2.superiorcam.com (incadi2.superiorcam.com [208.231.141.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24F4614BD8 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 07:48:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sek@superiorcam.com) Received: from [208.231.141.131] (incadi1.superiorcam.com [208.231.141.131]) by incadi2.superiorcam.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA28761 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:58:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from incad1.surperiorcam.com by [208.231.141.131] via smtpd (for incadi2.superiorcam.com [208.231.141.132]) with SMTP; 14 Jun 1999 14:48:23 UT Received: from supsvr.superiorcam.com (supsvr.superiorcam.com [10.1.2.1]) by incad1.superiorcam.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA21710 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:48:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sek5 (sek-sup [10.1.2.101]) by supsvr.superiorcam.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA06417 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:48:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <00d501beb674$f440c6a0$6502010a@sek5.superiorcam.com> From: "Stephen Krzywicki" To: Subject: Re: Is the CD driver supposed to attach() now regardless of media? Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:48:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The latest firmware release from Yamaha may fix this problem. -----Original Message----- From: Wilko Bulte To: Andreas Braukmann Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sunday, June 13, 1999 6:42 AM Subject: Re: Is the CD driver supposed to attach() now regardless of media? >As Andreas Braukmann wrote ... > >> ... sorry, ... I really should have noted this in my earlier >> message on this topic. >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 11, 1999 at 09:30:02PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: >> > My experience is that as long as the CD is in the drive before you boot >> > the floppy sysinstall is happy. Put the CD in later and all bets are off. >> > This has been the case as long as I remember. >> ... we tried all combinations ( 2940AU, Yamaha CRW4416 ) : >> - floppy boot, with medium in the the cd >> - floppy boot, without medium in the cd >> - cd-boot >> - cd-boot and taking out the cd direct after boot >> and back in later >> - waiting a few minutes before selecting the >> installation media in sysinstall >> >> The 3.1-release installation kernel wasn't able to attach >> the yamaha drive to cd0. > >Maybe the Yamaha, being a CDRW drive does not report itself as a CD after >boot/SCSI bus reset? Just guessing here.. > >-- >| / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands - Powered by FreeBSD - >|/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte WWW : http://www.tcja.nl http://www.freebsd.org > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 8:16:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDDAD14BD8 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 08:16:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 10tYTo-0000Ed-00 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:16:56 -0400 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:16:55 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Yamaha CD-R[W] drives (Re: Is the CD driver) Message-ID: <19990614111655.A29194@pir.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <00d501beb674$f440c6a0$6502010a@sek5.superiorcam.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <00d501beb674$f440c6a0$6502010a@sek5.superiorcam.com>; from Stephen Krzywicki on Mon, Jun 14, 1999 at 10:48:24AM -0400 X-fish: < Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Stephen Krzywicki probably said: > The latest firmware release from Yamaha may fix this problem. Speaking of firmware upgrades: http://www.yamahayst.com/techsup/flasrom.htm ] For Windows NT and/or UNIX-SGI Users: ] If you are operating under Windows NT or UNIX type environments, you ] must use the DOS Batch utility to upgrade the Yamaha Recorder. Boot ] from a DOS bootable Floppy, configured as shown below for your SCSI ] Card and then run the DOS batch upgrade utility. Otherwise, you must ] take our drive to a DOS, Windows 95, or Macintosh environment to ] upgrade our unit. http://www.yamahayst.com/techsup/cdr400fi.htm ] For Models (CDR400c, CDR400cx, CDR400t, CDR400tx, CDR400AT) ] Version NO.: 1.0q Inquiry Date: Nov. 11, '98 ] 1) Making the same firmware file usable for CDR's and CRW's. ] 2) Extended support for silver media. ] 3) Reducing the noise problem for reading CD-DA discs. Note the extended support for silver (cheepo) media. (similar comments in the CRW4260 section) If you're using a Yamaha CD-R[W], upgrade your firmware tp 1.0q P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@shore.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 8:33:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF45315275 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 08:33:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id IAA27628; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 08:33:52 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda27624; Mon Jun 14 08:33:40 1999 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id IAA88281; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 08:33:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199906141533.IAA88281@passer.osg.gov.bc.ca> Received: from localhost.osg.gov.bc.ca(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "passer.osg.gov.bc.ca" via SMTP by localhost.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpdi88273; Mon Jun 14 08:33:06 1999 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE X-Sender: cschuber To: Martti Kuparinen Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Lockups: should I go back to 2.2.8 In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:23:01 +0300." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 08:33:06 -0700 From: Cy Schubert Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message , Martti Kuparinen writes: > While running tripwire in our server, the system locked up (well, > in fact the load went up to 600+ and the whole system became unusable, > so it was not a panic or dead-lock). The operating system is 3.2-STABLE > and "make world" was performed last friday. The host is NFS server > with small average load. > > The question is: if I need a rock-solid system as it is our main > server for 20 people, should I downgrade to 2.2.8-STABLE? > > I think I can't afford to wait for the VM thing to be fixed, but I > don't know if 228-S has similar symptoms, i.e. do I win something by > going back to 228-S? I had system hangs, until 1.23.2.3 of kern_lock.c was committed. Since then, I've had what appeared to be a hang that became a panic after waiting 19 minutes. See PR 11993 (panic: getnewbuf: inconsistent EMPTY queue, qindex=0). This has only occurred once, on June 2. Before anyone can debug this we will need some additional information like a description of you hardware, uname -a output, dmesg output, a copy of your kernel config file, and a bactrace listing from your vmcore dump. Once you have the required information, the best way to report bugs of this kind is through send-pr(1). You may still wish to post to this list to provide the rest of us with some kind of heads-up notification and maybe flush out comments about similar experiences into the open. Best of luck. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Open Systems Group Internet: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca Province of BC "e**(i*pi)+1=0" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 8:34:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pan.ch.intel.com (pan.ch.intel.com [143.182.246.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D77DD15275 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 08:34:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com) Received: from sedona.intel.com (sedona.ch.intel.com [143.182.218.21]) by pan.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.6 1998/11/24 22:10:56 iwep Exp iwep $) with ESMTP id IAA20856; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 08:34:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from hip186.ch.intel.com (hip186.ch.intel.com [143.182.225.68]) by sedona.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: sendmail.cf,v 1.8 1999/04/16 15:25:49 steved Exp steved $) with ESMTP id IAA07064; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 08:34:11 -0700 (MST) X-Envelope-From: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com Received: (from jreynold@localhost) by hip186.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: client.m4,v 1.3 1998/09/29 16:36:11 sedayao Exp sedayao $) id LAA16451; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:34:10 -0400 (EDT) From: John Reynolds~ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14181.8433.806060.124865@hip186.ch.intel.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 08:34:09 -0700 (MST) To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: "Kenneth D. Merry" , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is the CD driver supposed to attach() now regardless of media? In-Reply-To: <77220.929178488@zippy.cdrom.com> References: <199906111935.NAA50622@panzer.plutotech.com> <77220.929178488@zippy.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under Emacs 19.34.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ On Saturday, June 12, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: ] > > Correct. This is a known problem which is unfortunately only sorta-kinda > documented; I'm frankly so used to this being a requirement for both > CDROM and tape installs that I think I forgot to even mention it in > the manual page. :-) > > - Jordan Well then, if it's more trouble than it's worth to hack the code to operate otherwise, perhaps a short blurb in INSTALL.TXT or one of the / .TXT files would be appropriate?? Or, are you saying that even though you're "used to" the behavior, that it could be "correct" and made to try and open the CD device at the CD-ROM media menu (instead of using old cached information)? Is the process for rolling your own MFSROOT floppy documented anywhere (should somebody want to tinker with the code and put an updated /stand/sysinstall on the disk)? -Jr -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | John Reynolds CEG, CCE, Next Generation Flows, HLA | | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 868-6512 | | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 9: 2:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.phone.net (guru.phone.net [209.157.82.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5DBDD15333 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:02:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@phone.net) Received: (qmail 22552 invoked by uid 100); 14 Jun 1999 16:02:16 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Jun 1999 16:02:16 -0000 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:02:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Meyer To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Yamaha CD-R[W] drives (Re: Is the CD driver) In-Reply-To: <19990614111655.A29194@pir.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ok, so where do I find a DOS bootable floppy? The only MS box in the house is the children's e-machine, running Windows 98... Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:16:55 -0400 > From: Peter Radcliffe > To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Yamaha CD-R[W] drives (Re: Is the CD driver) > > Stephen Krzywicki probably said: > > The latest firmware release from Yamaha may fix this problem. > > Speaking of firmware upgrades: > > http://www.yamahayst.com/techsup/flasrom.htm > ] For Windows NT and/or UNIX-SGI Users: > ] If you are operating under Windows NT or UNIX type environments, you > ] must use the DOS Batch utility to upgrade the Yamaha Recorder. Boot > ] from a DOS bootable Floppy, configured as shown below for your SCSI > ] Card and then run the DOS batch upgrade utility. Otherwise, you must > ] take our drive to a DOS, Windows 95, or Macintosh environment to > ] upgrade our unit. > > http://www.yamahayst.com/techsup/cdr400fi.htm > ] For Models (CDR400c, CDR400cx, CDR400t, CDR400tx, CDR400AT) > ] Version NO.: 1.0q Inquiry Date: Nov. 11, '98 > ] 1) Making the same firmware file usable for CDR's and CRW's. > ] 2) Extended support for silver media. > ] 3) Reducing the noise problem for reading CD-DA discs. > > Note the extended support for silver (cheepo) media. > (similar comments in the CRW4260 section) > > If you're using a Yamaha CD-R[W], upgrade your firmware tp 1.0q > > P. > > -- > pir pir@pir.net pir@shore.net pir@net.tufts.edu > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 9:15:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from thelab.hub.org (nat192.211.mpoweredpc.net [142.177.192.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CACC814A12; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:15:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA35438; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 13:15:23 -0300 (ADT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 13:15:22 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: Matthew Dillon Cc: "David E. Cross" , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MMAP() in STABLE/CURRENT ... In-Reply-To: <199906140715.AAA06844@apollo.backplane.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote: > > :> > :> David, can you email this program to me please? > :> > :> Also, which FreeBSD release does this occur on? > :> > :> I've got about 6 mmap-related bugs on my plate at the moment. 3 of them > :> have been identified ( that is, I know why they deadlock the machine ), > :> but none have been fixed yet. > : > :Matt, I'll volunteer myself as a tester for this code under 3.2-STABLE, > :when you have it ready... > : > :Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy > :Systems Administrator @ hub.org > :primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org > > I'll let the lists know when patches are available. It may be a while > (like a week), I still have a lot of catching-up to do after being at > USENIX all last week and my commit privs still need to be resolved. Those of us with production 3.2-STABLE machines patiently await :) Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 9:19:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cs.rpi.edu (mumble.cs.rpi.edu [128.213.8.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19D8614E25; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:19:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crossd@cs.rpi.edu) Received: from cs.rpi.edu (monica.cs.rpi.edu [128.213.7.2]) by cs.rpi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA13146; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 12:19:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199906141619.MAA13146@cs.rpi.edu> To: The Hermit Hacker Cc: Matthew Dillon , "David E. Cross" , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, crossd@cs.rpi.edu Subject: Re: MMAP() in STABLE/CURRENT ... In-Reply-To: Message from The Hermit Hacker of "Mon, 14 Jun 1999 13:15:22 -0300." Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 12:19:17 -0400 From: "David E. Cross" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote: > > :> > :> David, can you email this program to me please? > :> > :> Also, which FreeBSD release does this occur on? > :> > :> I've got about 6 mmap-related bugs on my plate at the moment. 3 of them > :> have been identified ( that is, I know why they deadlock the machine ), > :> but none have been fixed yet. > : > :Matt, I'll volunteer myself as a tester for this code under 3.2-STABLE, > :when you have it ready... > : > :Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy > :Systems Administrator @ hub.org > :primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org > > I'll let the lists know when patches are available. It may be a while > (like a week), I still have a lot of catching-up to do after being at > USENIX all last week and my commit privs still need to be resolved. I will also volunteer for this. Also, the drive in question has plently of space available for the large file. I think it is clearly the dirty pages issue you listed. -- David Cross | email: crossd@cs.rpi.edu Systems Administrator/Research Programmer | Web: http://www.cs.rpi.edu/~crossd Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, | Ph: 518.276.2860 Department of Computer Science | Fax: 518.276.4033 I speak only for myself. | WinNT:Linux::Linux:FreeBSD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 9:57:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5CAA152AD for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:57:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from revolution.3-cities.com (revolution.3-cities.com [204.203.224.155]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.3.1) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:59:46 -0700 Received: from 3-cities.com (kenn1181.bossig.com [208.26.241.181]) by revolution.3-cities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA06106; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:57:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37653482.115577EC@3-cities.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:57:38 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@3-cities.com Organization: Columbia Basin Virtual Community Project X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Meyer Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Yamaha CD-R[W] drives (Re: Is the CD driver) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Choose > Start > settings > control panel > add/remove progs > startup disk. When you finish creating a startup disk you have a Win98 DOS boot that will add your CDROM. You need one of these disks around for your e-machine anyway. Kent Mike Meyer wrote: > > Ok, so where do I find a DOS bootable floppy? The only MS box in the > house is the children's e-machine, running Windows 98... > > > On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Peter Radcliffe wrote: > > > Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:16:55 -0400 > > From: Peter Radcliffe > > To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: Yamaha CD-R[W] drives (Re: Is the CD driver) > > > > Stephen Krzywicki probably said: > > > The latest firmware release from Yamaha may fix this problem. > > > > Speaking of firmware upgrades: > > > > http://www.yamahayst.com/techsup/flasrom.htm > > ] For Windows NT and/or UNIX-SGI Users: > > ] If you are operating under Windows NT or UNIX type environments, you > > ] must use the DOS Batch utility to upgrade the Yamaha Recorder. Boot > > ] from a DOS bootable Floppy, configured as shown below for your SCSI > > ] Card and then run the DOS batch upgrade utility. Otherwise, you must > > ] take our drive to a DOS, Windows 95, or Macintosh environment to > > ] upgrade our unit. > > > > http://www.yamahayst.com/techsup/cdr400fi.htm > > ] For Models (CDR400c, CDR400cx, CDR400t, CDR400tx, CDR400AT) > > ] Version NO.: 1.0q Inquiry Date: Nov. 11, '98 > > ] 1) Making the same firmware file usable for CDR's and CRW's. > > ] 2) Extended support for silver media. > > ] 3) Reducing the noise problem for reading CD-DA discs. > > > > Note the extended support for silver (cheepo) media. > > (similar comments in the CRW4260 section) > > > > If you're using a Yamaha CD-R[W], upgrade your firmware tp 1.0q > > > > P. > > > > -- > > pir pir@pir.net pir@shore.net pir@net.tufts.edu > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 10:12:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.phone.net (guru.phone.net [209.157.82.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EE04015259 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:12:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@phone.net) Received: (qmail 23415 invoked by uid 100); 14 Jun 1999 17:12:12 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Jun 1999 17:12:12 -0000 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:12:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Meyer To: Kent Stewart Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Yamaha CD-R[W] drives (Re: Is the CD driver) In-Reply-To: <37653482.115577EC@3-cities.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Unless Win98 is a lot stupider than I think, I'll have a disk that will add the IDE CD-ROM on the e-machines, but won't add either of the SCSI CD-ROM's on the FreeBSD box with the CDRW on it. Thanx, Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:57:38 -0700 > From: Kent Stewart > To: Mike Meyer > Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Yamaha CD-R[W] drives (Re: Is the CD driver) > > Choose > Start > settings > control panel > add/remove progs > startup > disk. When you finish creating a startup disk you have a Win98 DOS boot > that will add your CDROM. You need one of these disks around for your > e-machine anyway. > > Kent > > Mike Meyer wrote: > > > > Ok, so where do I find a DOS bootable floppy? The only MS box in the > > house is the children's e-machine, running Windows 98... > > > > > > > On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Peter Radcliffe wrote: > > > > > Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:16:55 -0400 > > > From: Peter Radcliffe > > > To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > > Subject: Yamaha CD-R[W] drives (Re: Is the CD driver) > > > > > > Stephen Krzywicki probably said: > > > > The latest firmware release from Yamaha may fix this problem. > > > > > > Speaking of firmware upgrades: > > > > > > http://www.yamahayst.com/techsup/flasrom.htm > > > ] For Windows NT and/or UNIX-SGI Users: > > > ] If you are operating under Windows NT or UNIX type environments, you > > > ] must use the DOS Batch utility to upgrade the Yamaha Recorder. Boot > > > ] from a DOS bootable Floppy, configured as shown below for your SCSI > > > ] Card and then run the DOS batch upgrade utility. Otherwise, you must > > > ] take our drive to a DOS, Windows 95, or Macintosh environment to > > > ] upgrade our unit. > > > > > > http://www.yamahayst.com/techsup/cdr400fi.htm > > > ] For Models (CDR400c, CDR400cx, CDR400t, CDR400tx, CDR400AT) > > > ] Version NO.: 1.0q Inquiry Date: Nov. 11, '98 > > > ] 1) Making the same firmware file usable for CDR's and CRW's. > > > ] 2) Extended support for silver media. > > > ] 3) Reducing the noise problem for reading CD-DA discs. > > > > > > Note the extended support for silver (cheepo) media. > > > (similar comments in the CRW4260 section) > > > > > > If you're using a Yamaha CD-R[W], upgrade your firmware tp 1.0q > > > > > > P. > > > > > > -- > > > pir pir@pir.net pir@shore.net pir@net.tufts.edu > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > -- > Kent Stewart > Richland, WA > > mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com > http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 10:45: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9546151EF for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:44:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from revolution.3-cities.com (revolution.3-cities.com [204.203.224.155]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.3.1) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:46:50 -0700 Received: from 3-cities.com (kenn1181.bossig.com [208.26.241.181]) by revolution.3-cities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11686; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:44:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37653F7D.CEC3DCA7@3-cities.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:44:29 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@3-cities.com Organization: Columbia Basin Virtual Community Project X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Meyer Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Yamaha CD-R[W] drives (Re: Is the CD driver) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Meyer wrote: > > Unless Win98 is a lot stupider than I think, I'll have a disk that > will add the IDE CD-ROM on the e-machines, but won't add either of the > SCSI CD-ROM's on the FreeBSD box with the CDRW on it. Not really it is designed to add IDE and scsi CDROM's. What it won't do is mount more than one of them. Kent > > Thanx, > > On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Kent Stewart wrote: > > > Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:57:38 -0700 > > From: Kent Stewart > > To: Mike Meyer > > Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: Yamaha CD-R[W] drives (Re: Is the CD driver) > > > > Choose > Start > settings > control panel > add/remove progs > startup > > disk. When you finish creating a startup disk you have a Win98 DOS boot > > that will add your CDROM. You need one of these disks around for your > > e-machine anyway. > > > > Kent > > > > Mike Meyer wrote: > > > > > > Ok, so where do I find a DOS bootable floppy? The only MS box in the > > > house is the children's e-machine, running Windows 98... > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Peter Radcliffe wrote: > > > > > > > Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:16:55 -0400 > > > > From: Peter Radcliffe > > > > To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > > > Subject: Yamaha CD-R[W] drives (Re: Is the CD driver) > > > > > > > > Stephen Krzywicki probably said: > > > > > The latest firmware release from Yamaha may fix this problem. > > > > > > > > Speaking of firmware upgrades: > > > > > > > > http://www.yamahayst.com/techsup/flasrom.htm > > > > ] For Windows NT and/or UNIX-SGI Users: > > > > ] If you are operating under Windows NT or UNIX type environments, you > > > > ] must use the DOS Batch utility to upgrade the Yamaha Recorder. Boot > > > > ] from a DOS bootable Floppy, configured as shown below for your SCSI > > > > ] Card and then run the DOS batch upgrade utility. Otherwise, you must > > > > ] take our drive to a DOS, Windows 95, or Macintosh environment to > > > > ] upgrade our unit. > > > > > > > > http://www.yamahayst.com/techsup/cdr400fi.htm > > > > ] For Models (CDR400c, CDR400cx, CDR400t, CDR400tx, CDR400AT) > > > > ] Version NO.: 1.0q Inquiry Date: Nov. 11, '98 > > > > ] 1) Making the same firmware file usable for CDR's and CRW's. > > > > ] 2) Extended support for silver media. > > > > ] 3) Reducing the noise problem for reading CD-DA discs. > > > > > > > > Note the extended support for silver (cheepo) media. > > > > (similar comments in the CRW4260 section) > > > > > > > > If you're using a Yamaha CD-R[W], upgrade your firmware tp 1.0q > > > > > > > > P. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > pir pir@pir.net pir@shore.net pir@net.tufts.edu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > -- > > Kent Stewart > > Richland, WA > > > > mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com > > http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html Hunting Archibald Stewart, b 1802 in Ballymena, Antrim Co., NIR http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/genealogy/archibald_stewart.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 10:52:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from utopia.ajiang.com (unknown [202.42.226.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1115714D6D for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:52:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody@utopia.ajiang.com) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by utopia.ajiang.com (8.9.1/8.8.7) id BAA23386; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 01:43:15 +0800 (SGT) (envelope-from nobody) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 01:43:15 +0800 (SGT) Message-Id: <199906141743.BAA23386@utopia.ajiang.com> Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Alvin Jiang To: alvin@singnet.com.sg X-Sender: alvin@pop.ajiang.com X-Mailer: First-Mail Public Beta X-Real-Host-From: Subject: Re: Yamaha CD-R[W] drives (Re: Is the CD driver) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:12:12 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: >Unless Win98 is a lot stupider than I think, I'll have a disk that >will add the IDE CD-ROM on the e-machines, but won't add either of the >SCSI CD-ROM's on the FreeBSD box with the CDRW on it. > > Thanx, > > > >On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Kent Stewart wrote: > >> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:57:38 -0700 >> From: Kent Stewart >> To: Mike Meyer >> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: Yamaha CD-R[W] drives (Re: Is the CD driver) >> >> Choose > Start > settings > control panel > add/remove progs > startup >> disk. When you finish creating a startup disk you have a Win98 DOS boot >> that will add your CDROM. You need one of these disks around for your >> e-machine anyway. >> >> Kent >> >> Mike Meyer wrote: >> > >> > Ok, so where do I find a DOS bootable floppy? The only MS box in the >> > house is the children's e-machine, running Windows 98... >> > >> > > > >> > On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Peter Radcliffe wrote: >> > >> > > Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:16:55 -0400 >> > > From: Peter Radcliffe >> > > To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG >> > > Subject: Yamaha CD-R[W] drives (Re: Is the CD driver) >> > > >> > > Stephen Krzywicki probably said: >> > > > The latest firmware release from Yamaha may fix this problem. >> > > >> > > Speaking of firmware upgrades: >> > > >> > > http://www.yamahayst.com/techsup/flasrom.htm >> > > ] For Windows NT and/or UNIX-SGI Users: >> > > ] If you are operating under Windows NT or UNIX type environments, you >> > > ] must use the DOS Batch utility to upgrade the Yamaha Recorder. Boot >> > > ] from a DOS bootable Floppy, configured as shown below for your SCSI >> > > ] Card and then run the DOS batch upgrade utility. Otherwise, you must >> > > ] take our drive to a DOS, Windows 95, or Macintosh environment to >> > > ] upgrade our unit. >> > > >> > > http://www.yamahayst.com/techsup/cdr400fi.htm >> > > ] For Models (CDR400c, CDR400cx, CDR400t, CDR400tx, CDR400AT) >> > > ] Version NO.: 1.0q Inquiry Date: Nov. 11, '98 >> > > ] 1) Making the same firmware file usable for CDR's and CRW's. >> > > ] 2) Extended support for silver media. >> > > ] 3) Reducing the noise problem for reading CD-DA discs. >> > > >> > > Note the extended support for silver (cheepo) media. >> > > (similar comments in the CRW4260 section) >> > > >> > > If you're using a Yamaha CD-R[W], upgrade your firmware tp 1.0q >> > > >> > > P. >> > > >> > > -- >> > > pir pir@pir.net pir@shore.net pir@net.tufts.edu >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >> > > >> > >> > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >> >> -- >> Kent Stewart >> Richland, WA >> >> mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com >> http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >> > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -=[Zeus]=- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 10:53: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from utopia.ajiang.com (unknown [202.42.226.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E87E15333 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:52:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody@utopia.ajiang.com) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by utopia.ajiang.com (8.9.1/8.8.7) id BAA23409; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 01:43:37 +0800 (SGT) (envelope-from nobody) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 01:43:37 +0800 (SGT) Message-Id: <199906141743.BAA23409@utopia.ajiang.com> Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Alvin Jiang To: alvin@singnet.com.sg X-Sender: alvin@pop.ajiang.com X-Mailer: First-Mail Public Beta X-Real-Host-From: Subject: Re: Yamaha CD-R[W] drives (Re: Is the CD driver) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:12:12 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: >Unless Win98 is a lot stupider than I think, I'll have a disk that >will add the IDE CD-ROM on the e-machines, but won't add either of the >SCSI CD-ROM's on the FreeBSD box with the CDRW on it. > > Thanx, > > > >On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Kent Stewart wrote: > >> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:57:38 -0700 >> From: Kent Stewart >> To: Mike Meyer >> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: Yamaha CD-R[W] drives (Re: Is the CD driver) >> >> Choose > Start > settings > control panel > add/remove progs > startup >> disk. When you finish creating a startup disk you have a Win98 DOS boot >> that will add your CDROM. You need one of these disks around for your >> e-machine anyway. >> >> Kent >> >> Mike Meyer wrote: >> > >> > Ok, so where do I find a DOS bootable floppy? The only MS box in the >> > house is the children's e-machine, running Windows 98... >> > >> > > > >> > On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Peter Radcliffe wrote: >> > >> > > Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:16:55 -0400 >> > > From: Peter Radcliffe >> > > To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG >> > > Subject: Yamaha CD-R[W] drives (Re: Is the CD driver) >> > > >> > > Stephen Krzywicki probably said: >> > > > The latest firmware release from Yamaha may fix this problem. >> > > >> > > Speaking of firmware upgrades: >> > > >> > > http://www.yamahayst.com/techsup/flasrom.htm >> > > ] For Windows NT and/or UNIX-SGI Users: >> > > ] If you are operating under Windows NT or UNIX type environments, you >> > > ] must use the DOS Batch utility to upgrade the Yamaha Recorder. Boot >> > > ] from a DOS bootable Floppy, configured as shown below for your SCSI >> > > ] Card and then run the DOS batch upgrade utility. Otherwise, you must >> > > ] take our drive to a DOS, Windows 95, or Macintosh environment to >> > > ] upgrade our unit. >> > > >> > > http://www.yamahayst.com/techsup/cdr400fi.htm >> > > ] For Models (CDR400c, CDR400cx, CDR400t, CDR400tx, CDR400AT) >> > > ] Version NO.: 1.0q Inquiry Date: Nov. 11, '98 >> > > ] 1) Making the same firmware file usable for CDR's and CRW's. >> > > ] 2) Extended support for silver media. >> > > ] 3) Reducing the noise problem for reading CD-DA discs. >> > > >> > > Note the extended support for silver (cheepo) media. >> > > (similar comments in the CRW4260 section) >> > > >> > > If you're using a Yamaha CD-R[W], upgrade your firmware tp 1.0q >> > > >> > > P. >> > > >> > > -- >> > > pir pir@pir.net pir@shore.net pir@net.tufts.edu >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >> > > >> > >> > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >> >> -- >> Kent Stewart >> Richland, WA >> >> mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com >> http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >> > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -=[Zeus]=- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 10:55:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from utopia.ajiang.com (unknown [202.42.226.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE76A14D6D for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:55:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody@utopia.ajiang.com) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by utopia.ajiang.com (8.9.1/8.8.7) id BAA23437; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 01:46:05 +0800 (SGT) (envelope-from nobody) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 01:46:05 +0800 (SGT) Message-Id: <199906141746.BAA23437@utopia.ajiang.com> Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Alvin Jiang To: alvin@singnet.com.sg X-Sender: alvin@pop.ajiang.com X-Mailer: First-Mail Public Beta X-Real-Host-From: Subject: Re: Yamaha CD-R[W] drives (Re: Is the CD driver) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:12:12 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: >Unless Win98 is a lot stupider than I think, I'll have a disk that >will add the IDE CD-ROM on the e-machines, but won't add either of the >SCSI CD-ROM's on the FreeBSD box with the CDRW on it. > > Thanx, > > > >On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Kent Stewart wrote: > >> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:57:38 -0700 >> From: Kent Stewart >> To: Mike Meyer >> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: Yamaha CD-R[W] drives (Re: Is the CD driver) >> >> Choose > Start > settings > control panel > add/remove progs > startup >> disk. When you finish creating a startup disk you have a Win98 DOS boot >> that will add your CDROM. You need one of these disks around for your >> e-machine anyway. >> >> Kent >> >> Mike Meyer wrote: >> > >> > Ok, so where do I find a DOS bootable floppy? The only MS box in the >> > house is the children's e-machine, running Windows 98... >> > >> > > > >> > On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Peter Radcliffe wrote: >> > >> > > Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:16:55 -0400 >> > > From: Peter Radcliffe >> > > To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG >> > > Subject: Yamaha CD-R[W] drives (Re: Is the CD driver) >> > > >> > > Stephen Krzywicki probably said: >> > > > The latest firmware release from Yamaha may fix this problem. >> > > >> > > Speaking of firmware upgrades: >> > > >> > > http://www.yamahayst.com/techsup/flasrom.htm >> > > ] For Windows NT and/or UNIX-SGI Users: >> > > ] If you are operating under Windows NT or UNIX type environments, you >> > > ] must use the DOS Batch utility to upgrade the Yamaha Recorder. Boot >> > > ] from a DOS bootable Floppy, configured as shown below for your SCSI >> > > ] Card and then run the DOS batch upgrade utility. Otherwise, you must >> > > ] take our drive to a DOS, Windows 95, or Macintosh environment to >> > > ] upgrade our unit. >> > > >> > > http://www.yamahayst.com/techsup/cdr400fi.htm >> > > ] For Models (CDR400c, CDR400cx, CDR400t, CDR400tx, CDR400AT) >> > > ] Version NO.: 1.0q Inquiry Date: Nov. 11, '98 >> > > ] 1) Making the same firmware file usable for CDR's and CRW's. >> > > ] 2) Extended support for silver media. >> > > ] 3) Reducing the noise problem for reading CD-DA discs. >> > > >> > > Note the extended support for silver (cheepo) media. >> > > (similar comments in the CRW4260 section) >> > > >> > > If you're using a Yamaha CD-R[W], upgrade your firmware tp 1.0q >> > > >> > > P. >> > > >> > > -- >> > > pir pir@pir.net pir@shore.net pir@net.tufts.edu >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >> > > >> > >> > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >> >> -- >> Kent Stewart >> Richland, WA >> >> mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com >> http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >> > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -=[Zeus]=- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 11:15:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from utopia.ajiang.com (unknown [202.42.226.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC87914D54 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:15:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody@utopia.ajiang.com) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by utopia.ajiang.com (8.9.1/8.8.7) id CAA23638; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 02:05:56 +0800 (SGT) (envelope-from nobody) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 02:05:56 +0800 (SGT) Message-Id: <199906141805.CAA23638@utopia.ajiang.com> Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Alvin Jiang To: alvin@singnet.com.sg X-Sender: alvin@pop.ajiang.com X-Mailer: First-Mail Public Beta X-Real-Host-From: Subject: Re: Yamaha CD-R[W] drives (Re: Is the CD driver) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At Tue, 15 Jun 1999 01:43:15 +0800 (SGT), you wrote: >At Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:12:12 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: >>Unless Win98 is a lot stupider than I think, I'll have a disk that >>will add the IDE CD-ROM on the e-machines, but won't add either of the >>SCSI CD-ROM's on the FreeBSD box with the CDRW on it. >> >> Thanx, >> > >> >> >>On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Kent Stewart wrote: >> >>> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:57:38 -0700 >>> From: Kent Stewart >>> To: Mike Meyer >>> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org >>> Subject: Re: Yamaha CD-R[W] drives (Re: Is the CD driver) >>> >>> Choose > Start > settings > control panel > add/remove progs > startup >>> disk. When you finish creating a startup disk you have a Win98 DOS boot >>> that will add your CDROM. You need one of these disks around for your >>> e-machine anyway. >>> >>> Kent >>> >>> Mike Meyer wrote: >>> > >>> > Ok, so where do I find a DOS bootable floppy? The only MS box in the >>> > house is the children's e-machine, running Windows 98... >>> > >>> > >> > >>> > On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Peter Radcliffe wrote: >>> > >>> > > Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:16:55 -0400 >>> > > From: Peter Radcliffe >>> > > To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG >>> > > Subject: Yamaha CD-R[W] drives (Re: Is the CD driver) >>> > > >>> > > Stephen Krzywicki probably said: >>> > > > The latest firmware release from Yamaha may fix this problem. >>> > > >>> > > Speaking of firmware upgrades: >>> > > >>> > > http://www.yamahayst.com/techsup/flasrom.htm >>> > > ] For Windows NT and/or UNIX-SGI Users: >>> > > ] If you are operating under Windows NT or UNIX type environments, you >>> > > ] must use the DOS Batch utility to upgrade the Yamaha Recorder. Boot >>> > > ] from a DOS bootable Floppy, configured as shown below for your SCSI >>> > > ] Card and then run the DOS batch upgrade utility. Otherwise, you must >>> > > ] take our drive to a DOS, Windows 95, or Macintosh environment to >>> > > ] upgrade our unit. >>> > > >>> > > http://www.yamahayst.com/techsup/cdr400fi.htm >>> > > ] For Models (CDR400c, CDR400cx, CDR400t, CDR400tx, CDR400AT) >>> > > ] Version NO.: 1.0q Inquiry Date: Nov. 11, '98 >>> > > ] 1) Making the same firmware file usable for CDR's and CRW's. >>> > > ] 2) Extended support for silver media. >>> > > ] 3) Reducing the noise problem for reading CD-DA discs. >>> > > >>> > > Note the extended support for silver (cheepo) media. >>> > > (similar comments in the CRW4260 section) >>> > > >>> > > If you're using a Yamaha CD-R[W], upgrade your firmware tp 1.0q >>> > > >>> > > P. >>> > > >>> > > -- >>> > > pir pir@pir.net pir@shore.net pir@net.tufts.edu >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>> > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >>> > > >>> > >>> > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>> > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >>> >>> -- >>> Kent Stewart >>> Richland, WA >>> >>> mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com >>> http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html >>> >>> >>> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>> with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >> >-=[Zeus]=- > -=[Zeus]=- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 11:18:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from utopia.ajiang.com (unknown [202.42.226.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9486914D54 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:18:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody@utopia.ajiang.com) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by utopia.ajiang.com (8.9.1/8.8.7) id CAA23663; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 02:09:21 +0800 (SGT) (envelope-from nobody) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 02:09:21 +0800 (SGT) Message-Id: <199906141809.CAA23663@utopia.ajiang.com> Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Alvin Jiang To: alvin@singnet.com.sg X-Sender: alvin@pop.ajiang.com X-Mailer: First-Mail Public Beta X-Real-Host-From: Subject: Re: Yamaha CD-R[W] drives (Re: Is the CD driver) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At Tue, 15 Jun 1999 01:43:15 +0800 (SGT), you wrote: >At Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:12:12 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: >>Unless Win98 is a lot stupider than I think, I'll have a disk that >>will add the IDE CD-ROM on the e-machines, but won't add either of the >>SCSI CD-ROM's on the FreeBSD box with the CDRW on it. >> >> Thanx, >> > >> >> >>On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Kent Stewart wrote: >> >>> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:57:38 -0700 >>> From: Kent Stewart >>> To: Mike Meyer >>> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org >>> Subject: Re: Yamaha CD-R[W] drives (Re: Is the CD driver) >>> >>> Choose > Start > settings > control panel > add/remove progs > startup >>> disk. When you finish creating a startup disk you have a Win98 DOS boot >>> that will add your CDROM. You need one of these disks around for your >>> e-machine anyway. >>> >>> Kent >>> >>> Mike Meyer wrote: >>> > >>> > Ok, so where do I find a DOS bootable floppy? The only MS box in the >>> > house is the children's e-machine, running Windows 98... >>> > >>> > >> > >>> > On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Peter Radcliffe wrote: >>> > >>> > > Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:16:55 -0400 >>> > > From: Peter Radcliffe >>> > > To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG >>> > > Subject: Yamaha CD-R[W] drives (Re: Is the CD driver) >>> > > >>> > > Stephen Krzywicki probably said: >>> > > > The latest firmware release from Yamaha may fix this problem. >>> > > >>> > > Speaking of firmware upgrades: >>> > > >>> > > http://www.yamahayst.com/techsup/flasrom.htm >>> > > ] For Windows NT and/or UNIX-SGI Users: >>> > > ] If you are operating under Windows NT or UNIX type environments, you >>> > > ] must use the DOS Batch utility to upgrade the Yamaha Recorder. Boot >>> > > ] from a DOS bootable Floppy, configured as shown below for your SCSI >>> > > ] Card and then run the DOS batch upgrade utility. Otherwise, you must >>> > > ] take our drive to a DOS, Windows 95, or Macintosh environment to >>> > > ] upgrade our unit. >>> > > >>> > > http://www.yamahayst.com/techsup/cdr400fi.htm >>> > > ] For Models (CDR400c, CDR400cx, CDR400t, CDR400tx, CDR400AT) >>> > > ] Version NO.: 1.0q Inquiry Date: Nov. 11, '98 >>> > > ] 1) Making the same firmware file usable for CDR's and CRW's. >>> > > ] 2) Extended support for silver media. >>> > > ] 3) Reducing the noise problem for reading CD-DA discs. >>> > > >>> > > Note the extended support for silver (cheepo) media. >>> > > (similar comments in the CRW4260 section) >>> > > >>> > > If you're using a Yamaha CD-R[W], upgrade your firmware tp 1.0q >>> > > >>> > > P. >>> > > >>> > > -- >>> > > pir pir@pir.net pir@shore.net pir@net.tufts.edu >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>> > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >>> > > >>> > >>> > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>> > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >>> >>> -- >>> Kent Stewart >>> Richland, WA >>> >>> mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com >>> http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html >>> >>> >>> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>> with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >> >-=[Zeus]=- > -=[Zeus]=- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 11:24: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from utopia.ajiang.com (unknown [202.42.226.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48C6514D54 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:23:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody@utopia.ajiang.com) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by utopia.ajiang.com (8.9.1/8.8.7) id CAA23695; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 02:14:36 +0800 (SGT) (envelope-from nobody) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 02:14:36 +0800 (SGT) Message-Id: <199906141814.CAA23695@utopia.ajiang.com> Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Alvin Jiang To: Alvin Jiang X-Sender: alvin@pop.ajiang.com X-Mailer: First-Mail Public Beta X-Real-Host-From: Subject: Re: Yamaha CD-R[W] drives (Re: Is the CD driver) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At Tue, 15 Jun 1999 01:43:37 +0800 (SGT), you wrote: >At Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:12:12 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: >>Unless Win98 is a lot stupider than I think, I'll have a disk that >>will add the IDE CD-ROM on the e-machines, but won't add either of the >>SCSI CD-ROM's on the FreeBSD box with the CDRW on it. >> >> Thanx, >> > >> >> >>On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Kent Stewart wrote: >> >>> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:57:38 -0700 >>> From: Kent Stewart >>> To: Mike Meyer >>> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org >>> Subject: Re: Yamaha CD-R[W] drives (Re: Is the CD driver) >>> >>> Choose > Start > settings > control panel > add/remove progs > startup >>> disk. When you finish creating a startup disk you have a Win98 DOS boot >>> that will add your CDROM. You need one of these disks around for your >>> e-machine anyway. >>> >>> Kent >>> >>> Mike Meyer wrote: >>> > >>> > Ok, so where do I find a DOS bootable floppy? The only MS box in the >>> > house is the children's e-machine, running Windows 98... >>> > >>> > >> > >>> > On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Peter Radcliffe wrote: >>> > >>> > > Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:16:55 -0400 >>> > > From: Peter Radcliffe >>> > > To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG >>> > > Subject: Yamaha CD-R[W] drives (Re: Is the CD driver) >>> > > >>> > > Stephen Krzywicki probably said: >>> > > > The latest firmware release from Yamaha may fix this problem. >>> > > >>> > > Speaking of firmware upgrades: >>> > > >>> > > http://www.yamahayst.com/techsup/flasrom.htm >>> > > ] For Windows NT and/or UNIX-SGI Users: >>> > > ] If you are operating under Windows NT or UNIX type environments, you >>> > > ] must use the DOS Batch utility to upgrade the Yamaha Recorder. Boot >>> > > ] from a DOS bootable Floppy, configured as shown below for your SCSI >>> > > ] Card and then run the DOS batch upgrade utility. Otherwise, you must >>> > > ] take our drive to a DOS, Windows 95, or Macintosh environment to >>> > > ] upgrade our unit. >>> > > >>> > > http://www.yamahayst.com/techsup/cdr400fi.htm >>> > > ] For Models (CDR400c, CDR400cx, CDR400t, CDR400tx, CDR400AT) >>> > > ] Version NO.: 1.0q Inquiry Date: Nov. 11, '98 >>> > > ] 1) Making the same firmware file usable for CDR's and CRW's. >>> > > ] 2) Extended support for silver media. >>> > > ] 3) Reducing the noise problem for reading CD-DA discs. >>> > > >>> > > Note the extended support for silver (cheepo) media. >>> > > (similar comments in the CRW4260 section) >>> > > >>> > > If you're using a Yamaha CD-R[W], upgrade your firmware tp 1.0q >>> > > >>> > > P. >>> > > >>> > > -- >>> > > pir pir@pir.net pir@shore.net pir@net.tufts.edu >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>> > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >>> > > >>> > >>> > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>> > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >>> >>> -- >>> Kent Stewart >>> Richland, WA >>> >>> mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com >>> http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html >>> >>> >>> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>> with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >> >-=[Zeus]=- > -=[Zeus]=- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 11:34:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from chumbly.math.missouri.edu (chumbly.math.missouri.edu [128.206.72.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51F281537E for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:34:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rich@chumbly.math.missouri.edu) Received: (from rich@localhost) by chumbly.math.missouri.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id NAA10818 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 13:34:26 -0500 (CDT) From: Rich Winkel Message-Id: <199906141834.NAA10818@chumbly.math.missouri.edu> Subject: support for adaptec 2940 ultra2 in 2.2.8-stable? To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 13:34:25 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'd like to install 2.2.8-stable on this machine but the 2.2.8 CD can't find the 2940 U2 adapter. Is support included in the latest 2.2.8-stable? Thanks!! Rich To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 11:45:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7F3315331 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:45:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id LAA28469; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:45:17 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda28467; Mon Jun 14 11:45:10 1999 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA90061; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:45:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199906141845.LAA90061@passer.osg.gov.bc.ca> Received: from localhost.osg.gov.bc.ca(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "passer.osg.gov.bc.ca" via SMTP by localhost.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpdu90040; Mon Jun 14 11:44:09 1999 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE X-Sender: cschuber To: Rich Winkel Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: support for adaptec 2940 ultra2 in 2.2.8-stable? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 14 Jun 1999 13:34:25 CDT." <199906141834.NAA10818@chumbly.math.missouri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:44:09 -0700 From: Cy Schubert Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <199906141834.NAA10818@chumbly.math.missouri.edu>, Rich Winkel write s: > I'd like to install 2.2.8-stable on this machine but the 2.2.8 CD > can't find the 2940 U2 adapter. Is support included in the latest > 2.2.8-stable? Nope. Justin did have some CAM patches for 2.2.6-stable. When reworked a little, they did work with 2.2.8, however I deleted the reworked versions approximately a month ago, and they've rolled off my Legato backup tapes since then. You should be able to get them to work on 2.2.8 with about an hour or so of work. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Open Systems Group Internet: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca Province of BC "e**(i*pi)+1=0" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 12:50:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cs.rice.edu (cs.rice.edu [128.42.1.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F23714C38 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 12:50:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alc@cs.rice.edu) Received: (from alc@localhost) by cs.rice.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) id OAA02618; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 14:50:29 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 14:50:28 -0500 From: Alan Cox To: Jason Evans Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kernel panic with mmap() and VM_STACK Message-ID: <19990614145028.B1909@cs.rice.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.5us Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The underlying problem exists in -CURRENT as well. It's just luck of the draw that causes the failure to occur in one version but not the other. For example, your program doesn't crash my machine that runs -STABLE. Basically, vm_map_stack is assuming that vm_map_insert will behave a certain way, but the assumption isn't always correct. Stay tuned for a fix... Alan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 13: 3:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 251E515568 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 13:03:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA01163; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 13:03:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: "Matt White" Cc: kstewart@3-cities.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, msmith@cdrom.com, bill@cdrom.com Subject: Re: Live file system CD on 3.2-R? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:27:34 EDT." Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 13:03:51 -0700 Message-ID: <1159.929390631@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > - Boot with CD1. > - Choose fixit off the main menu. > - Select that you want to use a live file system CD-ROM > - Insert CD2 into the drive > - Hit Okay Try booting CD #2 - you should be able to skip a step. If it still doesn't work, I'll open an errata for it. I added an architecture check which I was afraid might cause this, but the folks who tested it here said it worked fine so I didn't worry about it. I'm now thinking that maybe they didn't test it all, despite being asked 3 seperate time sabout it. :-( - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 13:30:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from isds.duke.edu (davinci.isds.duke.edu [152.3.22.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B9A914E16 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 13:30:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sto@stat.Duke.EDU) Received: from cayenne.isds.duke.edu (cayenne.isds.duke.edu [152.3.22.11]) by isds.duke.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA29040; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 16:30:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from sto@localhost) by cayenne.isds.duke.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA11589; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 16:30:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990614163015.C8217@stat.Duke.EDU> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 16:30:15 -0400 From: "Sean O'Connell" To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: FreeBSD stable Subject: Re: Live file system CD on 3.2-R? Reply-To: "Sean O'Connell" References: <1159.929390631@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: <1159.929390631@zippy.cdrom.com>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Mon, Jun 14, 1999 at 01:03:51PM -0700 X-Organization: Institute of Statistics and Decision Sciences Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 1999 Jun 14, Jordan K. Hubbard (aka jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) wrote: > > - Boot with CD1. > > - Choose fixit off the main menu. > > - Select that you want to use a live file system CD-ROM > > - Insert CD2 into the drive > > - Hit Okay > > Try booting CD #2 - you should be able to skip a step. If it still doesn't work, > I'll open an errata for it. I added an architecture check which I was afraid > might cause this, but the folks who tested it here said it worked fine so I > didn't worry about it. I'm now thinking that maybe they didn't test it all, > despite being asked 3 seperate time sabout it. :-( It is broken... I had to breakdown and use the 3.1 Live Filesystem to recover an unhappy root partition (fortunately I brought both CD packets with me). S -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Sean O'Connell Email: sean@stat.Duke.EDU Institute of Statistics and Decision Sciences Phone: (919) 684-5419 Duke University Fax: (919) 684-8594 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 14: 2: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mirage.nlink.com.br (mirage.nlink.com.br [200.249.195.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3513151D6 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 14:01:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paulo@nlink.com.br) Received: from localhost (paulo@localhost) by mirage.nlink.com.br (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA22826 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 18:01:46 -0300 (EST) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 18:01:45 -0300 (EST) From: Paulo Fragoso To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: PPPD 2.3.8 in stable? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Are there any plans to include pppd-2.3.8 in FreeBSD stable? If yes, is it possible work fine with PAM? I'm having some problems with 3.2-RELEASE to make work fine with PAM. This version of pppd have one very good feature: /etc/ppp/auth-up A program or script which is executed after the remote system successfully authenticates itself. It is executed with the parameters interface-name peer-name user-name tty-device speed Note that this script is not executed if the peer doesn't authenticate itself, for example when the noauth option is used. Thanks, Paulo Fragoso. ------ " ... Overall we've found FreeBSD to excel in performace, stability, technical support, and of course price. Two years after discovering FreeBSD, we have yet to find a reason why we switch to anything else" -David Filo, Yahoo! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 14: 8:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gooey.bunnynet.org (pm05-s07.donet.com [216.28.194.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31544154F3 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 14:08:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwhite@donet.com) Received: from yiff ([10.3.2.100]) by gooey.bunnynet.org (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA30448; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 17:07:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwhite@donet.com) From: "Matt White" To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Subject: RE: Live file system CD on 3.2-R? Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 17:08:34 -0400 Message-ID: <000001beb6aa$107744e0$6402030a@bunnynet.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <1159.929390631@zippy.cdrom.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jordan; Booting from CD two yields the same results, it tells me that it's for the Alpha platform. Thanks, Matt -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Jordan K. Hubbard Sent: Monday, June 14, 1999 4:04 PM To: Matt White Cc: kstewart@3-cities.com; freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; msmith@cdrom.com; bill@cdrom.com Subject: Re: Live file system CD on 3.2-R? > - Boot with CD1. > - Choose fixit off the main menu. > - Select that you want to use a live file system CD-ROM > - Insert CD2 into the drive > - Hit Okay Try booting CD #2 - you should be able to skip a step. If it still doesn't work, I'll open an errata for it. I added an architecture check which I was afraid might cause this, but the folks who tested it here said it worked fine so I didn't worry about it. I'm now thinking that maybe they didn't test it all, despite being asked 3 seperate time sabout it. :-( - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 14:13: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from karon.elanders.no (karon.elanders.no [194.143.3.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0383154F3 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 14:12:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from berenmls@saers.com) Received: by karon.elanders.no; id XAA07033; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 23:12:50 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990614230937.023dd3b0@pop.saers.com> X-Sender: berenmls@pop.saers.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 23:11:45 +0200 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Niklas Saers Subject: Reverse lookup Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi. I just set up my server again after a harddisk-crash. When I do a host doriath.saers.com it finds 194.248.7.25, but when I try to access other computers, they list me only by ip (i.e. when I ssh to other computers) when I do a w, and ftp servers won't allow me to connect as they can't figure out who I am. What am I doing wrong? Niklas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 14:13:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from noao.edu (noao.edu [140.252.1.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D600A15228 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 14:13:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grandi@noao.edu) Received: from mirfak.tuc.noao.edu (IDENT:grandi@mirfak.tuc.noao.edu [140.252.1.9]) by noao.edu (8.9.3/8.8.8/SAG-14Jan99) with ESMTP id OAA08148; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 14:13:26 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from grandi@noao.edu) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 14:13:26 -0700 (MST) From: Steve Grandi X-Sender: grandi@mirfak.tuc.noao.edu To: Matthew Seaman Cc: obrien@NUXI.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: amd and /etc/hosts.allow In-Reply-To: <3764D713.5D8322EE@inpharmatica.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've done lots of experiments today and discovered little: I think most of my problems with amd and mount_nfs have to do with NFS quirks between inhomogeneous operating systems and less (if anything) to do with portmap and tcp_wrappers. If I come up with something solid, I will post again. In other words, never mind! I have verified Mathew's point about portmap and numerical entries in /etc/hosts.access. I used spray as an easy test. ALL : .noao.edu : allow was not sufficient to allow portmap access, while ALL : 140.252. : allow works fine. Steve Grandi On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Matthew Seaman wrote: > Steve Grandi wrote: > > > The portion of /etc/hosts.allow that refers to portmap sure appears to me > > to be sufficient to let local hosts in: > > > > # Portmapper is used for all RPC services; protect your NFS! > > #portmap : localhost : allow > > #portmap : .noao.edu : allow > > #portmap : .evil.cracker.example.com : deny > > portmap : ALL : allow > > > > Any thoughts? The next time I can play with this system, I will start > > portmap with -v to see if any log entries are interesting. > > The common experience on other Unices using portmap+tcp_wrappers is that you > can only use the keyword "ALL" or IP address/mask pairs to protect portmap -- > not host or domain names or NIS netgroups. This is documented in the README > that comes with the original Wietse Venema portmap_5beta code, on which I > believe FreeBSD portmap is based: > > ftp://ftp.porcupine.org/pub/security/portmap_5beta.tar.gz Steve Grandi, National Optical Astronomy Observatories/AURA Inc., Tucson AZ USA Internet: grandi@noao.edu Voice: +1 520 318-8228 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 14:21:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shell.webmaster.com (mail.webmaster.com [209.133.28.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E463215430 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 14:21:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from davids@webmaster.com) Received: from whenever ([209.133.29.2]) by shell.webmaster.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-12345L500S10000V35) with SMTP id com; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 14:21:26 -0700 From: "David Schwartz" To: "Niklas Saers" , Subject: RE: Reverse lookup Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 14:21:25 -0700 Message-ID: <000001beb6ab$dbec9390$021d85d1@whenever.youwant.to> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990614230937.023dd3b0@pop.saers.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Your machine's reverse DNS is not configured. Talk to the administrator for the 194.248.7.x block (hostmaster@online.no). DS > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Niklas Saers > Sent: Monday, June 14, 1999 2:12 PM > To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Reverse lookup > > > Hi. I just set up my server again after a harddisk-crash. When I do a host > doriath.saers.com it finds 194.248.7.25, but when I try to access other > computers, they list me only by ip (i.e. when I ssh to other computers) > when I do a w, and ftp servers won't allow me to connect as they can't > figure out who I am. What am I doing wrong? > > Niklas > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 15:17:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E326F14E24 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 15:17:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-1-23.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.132.23]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA17817; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 18:17:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id SAA19594; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 18:18:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 18:18:36 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Thierry Herbelot Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: burning a cd Message-ID: <19990614181836.A19492@ipass.net> References: <19990612223456.B210@caamora.com.au> <199906121513.IAA25324@kusanagi.boing.com> <19990613172117.D1670@caamora.com.au> <3764AE53.4FB4A94A@telspace.alcatel.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <3764AE53.4FB4A94A@telspace.alcatel.fr>; from Thierry Herbelot on Mon, Jun 14, 1999 at 09:25:07AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thierry Herbelot: |This is just for the record (to get it archived) | |I found out that you need the "pass" device when you use cdrecord with |SCSI CD burners (this could be in pkg/DESCR ?) This seems a bit unclear to me. Do you mean this device file needs to exist? I know you don't need to pass it to cdrecord explicitly, so I'm assuming this is what you meant. If so, that's good to know. I wasn't aware of it. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 17: 4:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from RisingNet.NET (RisingNet.NET [216.160.91.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 048531500B for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 17:04:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from boen@RisingNet.NET) Received: (from root@localhost) by RisingNet.NET (8.9.3/8.9.2) id RAA49666 for FreeBSD-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 17:09:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from boen) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 17:09:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Mc BoeN Message-Id: <199906150009.RAA49666@RisingNet.NET> To: FreeBSD-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 17: 6:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from luna.lyris.net (luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F00C1500B for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 17:06:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kip@lyris.com) Received: from luna.shelby.com by luna.lyris.net (8.9.1b+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id QAA13086; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 16:59:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from (luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6]) by luna.shelby.com with SMTP (MailShield v1.50); Mon, 14 Jun 1999 16:59:46 -0700 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 16:59:46 -0700 (PDT) From: X-Sender: kip@luna To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: chad@DCFinc.com, nick@kolia.north.gencon.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: open files In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-SMTP-HELO: luna X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: kip@lyris.com X-SMTP-RCPT-TO: des@flood.ping.uio.no,chad@DCFinc.com,nick@kolia.north.gencon.com,freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am sorry, but I don't see any files in there other than Makefile. When I grep down the hierarchy for kern.maxfiles I eventually get "/usr/bin/grep: Argument list too long". Is there a specific file somewhere in there? -Kip On 14 Jun 1999, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > "Chad R. Larson" writes: > > Is there a single place where one can find all the kernel tunables > > and reasonable min/max values for them? Something like the [ms]tune > > files in /etc/conf/cf.d on a SysV machine? > > /usr/src/sys > > DES > -- > Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 17:30:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from debonair.pussycatwatch.com (debonair.pussycatwatch.com [206.251.95.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5736E14E00 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 17:30:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rich@paranoid.org) Received: by debonair.pussycatwatch.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 340B146813; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 17:36:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by debonair.pussycatwatch.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E64C0C02A for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 17:36:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 17:36:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Rich Burroughs X-Sender: rich@debonair.pussycatwatch.com To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: signal 6 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I installed 3.2 RELEASE on a new box the other day, and everything looked good at first. We compiled Apache right off the bat and it went fine. A few days have passed, though, and we're having a lot of problems. The biggest issue I'm running into is that I can't seem to compile anything without having it die on a signal 6. I had it happen with a couple of ports (like the gcc28), and when I tried to compile the kernel I got the same error. I'm going to append the output I got from doing a "make" on the kernel. FYI, I used cvsup to get the latest stable sources this afternoon. I noticed an open PR that had to do with signal 6 errors: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=7245 It doesn't seem to apply to my issue, though, as I have plenty of swap. I haven't seen the swap at more than 10% used, and I get the error when the box isn't even needing to swap: Device 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Type /dev/da0s1b 184320 0 184192 0% Interleaved I'd appreciate any ideas people have... Thanks, Rich --- echo "gcc2_compiled." >symbols.exclude echo "___gnu_compiled_c" >>symbols.exclude grep -v '^#' ../../i386/i386/symbols.raw | sed 's/^ //' | sort -u > symbols.sort cc -c -x assembler-with-cpp -DLOCORE -O -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wuninitialized -Wformat -Wunused -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DKERNEL -DVM_STACK -include opt_global.h -elf ../../i386/i386/locore.s cc -c -O -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wuninitialized -Wformat -Wunused -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DKERNEL -DVM_STACK -include opt_global.h -elf device_if.c cc -c -O -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wuninitialized -Wformat -Wunused -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DKERNEL -DVM_STACK -include opt_global.h -elf bus_if.c cc -c -O -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wuninitialized -Wformat -Wunused -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DKERNEL -DVM_STACK -include opt_global.h -elf ../../cam/cam.c cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 6 *** Error code 1 Stop. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 17:48:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mta1.tm.net.my (mta1.tm.net.my [202.188.95.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5277D15164; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 17:48:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rezath@tm.net.my) Received: from setan ([202.188.127.2]) by mta1.tm.net.my (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990615004850.MVPK3564@setan>; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 08:48:50 +0800 Message-ID: <003401beb6c9$e14aa5c0$081603c8@tmmaster> From: "Rezamys" To: , Cc: , Subject: upgrade 3.1 release to 3.2 stable via CTM Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 08:56:13 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0031_01BEB70C.EB897FA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.203 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.203 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01BEB70C.EB897FA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi guys, Thanks for the mail. Actually I decided to install 3.1 release instead = coz I see it's too much of trouble upgrading from 2.2.7 to 3.2 stable. Anyways I read alot bout doing = CVSUP, make/build world n other stuff. most people do this way. = Unfortunately I have terrible networks here so i decided to use CTM - = took me 10 hours to download... I downloaded (via ftp) the "src-cur.3900xEmpty.gz" source as what I read = in the complete freebsd book by greg lehey. It's about 52759KB. My = question, what next?=20 The CTM article in Freebsd site is "not much" of coverage. Any = suggestions? TQ=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01BEB70C.EB897FA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi guys,
 
Thanks for the mail. Actually I decided to install 3.1 release = instead coz=20 I see it's too much of trouble
upgrading from 2.2.7 to 3.2 stable. Anyways I read alot bout doing = CVSUP,=20 make/build world n other stuff. most people do this way. = Unfortunately I=20 have terrible networks here so i decided to use CTM - took me 10 hours = to=20 download...
 
I downloaded (via ftp) the "src-cur.3900xEmpty.gz" source as what I = read in=20 the complete freebsd book by greg lehey. It's about 52759KB.  My = question,=20 what next?
 
The CTM article in Freebsd site is "not much" of coverage. Any=20 suggestions?
 
TQ
 
------=_NextPart_000_0031_01BEB70C.EB897FA0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 18:19: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9837D150BC for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 18:19:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from lot.gsoft.com.au (lot.gsoft.com.au [203.38.152.106]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA12751; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:48:53 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:48:53 +0930 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Rich Burroughs Subject: RE: signal 6 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 15-Jun-99 Rich Burroughs wrote: > The biggest issue I'm running into is that I can't seem to compile > anything without having it die on a signal 6. I had it happen with a > couple of ports (like the gcc28), and when I tried to compile the kernel I > got the same error. I'm going to append the output I got from doing a > "make" on the kernel. FYI, I used cvsup to get the latest stable sources > this afternoon. Well signal 6 is ABORT which is usually what a program sends to itself to commit suicide and leave a core dump.. It COULD be because of flaky hardware, but that usually gives you SIGBUS and SIGSEGV errors. About the only thing I can suggest is try new memory or CPU :) --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 19:40:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from chrome.dreamscape.com (chrome.dreamscape.com [206.64.128.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 681EA14E4B for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 19:40:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from krentel@dreamscape.com) Received: from europa.dreamscape.com (europa.dreamscape.com [206.64.128.147]) by chrome.dreamscape.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA11594 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 22:40:44 -0400 (EDT) X-Dreamscape-Track-Chrome-A: europa.dreamscape.com [206.64.128.147] X-Dreamscape-Track-Chrome-B: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 22:40:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dreamscape.com (sa7-p15.dreamscape.com [209.4.228.143]) by europa.dreamscape.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) with ESMTP id WAA16970 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 22:40:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Dreamscape-Track-A: sa7-p15.dreamscape.com [209.4.228.143] X-Dreamscape-Track-B: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 22:40:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from krentel@localhost) by dreamscape.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA00331 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 22:40:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from krentel) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 22:40:32 -0400 (EDT) From: "Mark W. Krentel" Message-Id: <199906150240.WAA00331@dreamscape.com> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Live file system CD on 3.2-R? Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > When I try to use the Live File System CD (CD two in the four CD set) from > 3.2-RELEASE it informs me that this CD is for the Alpha platform, not the > x86 platform. Yes, this happens to me too. As a workaround, I was able to mount and use /usr on CD #2 as follows. I booted from CD #2, chose Fixit, and then the fixit floppy (previously dd'd, of course). Then, from the Fixit console (ALT-F4), I ran: # cd / # mkdir cdrom # mount_cd9660 /dev/cd0c /cdrom # mv usr usr.old # ln -s /cdrom/usr usr Then I had access to /usr/bin and /usr/sbin on the CD (conveniently, those directories were already on root's PATH). I was able to mount / from my hard disk and use vi to edit /etc/fstab. Note that vi is a dynamically linked ELF binary, so this confirms /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 was in the proper place. So, it is possible to use the tools on CD #2 in Fixit mode, although the process is not nearly as convenient as it should have been. P.S. Would it be possible to put a few key ports on /usr/local on the live filesystem? A decent shell (bash, tcsh, pdksh) would be nice. --Mark Krentel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 19:48:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite.sentex.ca [199.212.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D197E14E4B for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 19:48:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from gravel (ospf-wat.sentex.net [209.167.248.81]) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA14840; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 22:48:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990614225834.0646a880@granite.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtancsa@granite.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 22:59:30 -0400 To: Rich Burroughs , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: signal 6 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 08:36 PM 6/14/99 , Rich Burroughs wrote: >I installed 3.2 RELEASE on a new box the other day, and everything looked >good at first. We compiled Apache right off the bat and it went fine. A >few days have passed, though, and we're having a lot of problems. Were you playing around with your limits by chance ? Assuming you are running csh, what does limit give you ? ---Mike ********************************************************************** Mike Tancsa, Network Admin * mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications Corp, * http://www.sentex.net/mike Cambridge, Ontario * 01.519.651.3400 Canada * To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 22: 9:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tranq1.tranquility.net (tranq1.tranquility.net [206.156.230.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E18AF14FE3; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 22:09:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from math.missouri.edu (stephen.tranquility.net [206.156.230.78]) by tranq1.tranquility.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA01432; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 00:09:03 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3765E002.7FD1C821@math.missouri.edu> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 00:09:22 -0500 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rezamys Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: upgrade 3.1 release to 3.2 stable via CTM References: <003401beb6c9$e14aa5c0$081603c8@tmmaster> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Rezamys wrote: > > Hi guys, > > Thanks for the mail. Actually I decided to install 3.1 release instead coz I > see it's too much of trouble > upgrading from 2.2.7 to 3.2 stable. Anyways I read alot bout doing CVSUP, > make/build world n other stuff. most people do this way. Unfortunately I have > terrible networks here so i decided to use CTM - took me 10 hours to > download... > > I downloaded (via ftp) the "src-cur.3900xEmpty.gz" source as what I read in > the complete freebsd book by greg lehey. It's about 52759KB. My question, > what next? > > The CTM article in Freebsd site is "not much" of coverage. Any suggestions? > > TQ > OK, I was able to get CTM to work, but not after a little trial and error. I agree that the documentation is not easy to follow. But after it is mastered, CTM is a very easy way to keep up with FreeBSD. Now, I'm sorry to say that you got the wrong file. Your file is pertinant to CURRENT, and you want STABLE. Look in ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/CTM/src-3/ or a mirror of such. Download src-3.0100xEmpty.gz and src-3.0101.gz to src-3.0181.gz (or whereever it ends at). Put these files in some directory, say ~me/xxx. Now cd to the directory where you want to put the sources, lets say /usr/src. Make sure that this directory is completely empty. cd /usr/src ctm ~me/xxx/src-* The computer will decode all of the ctm files, and put them into /usr/src. You are ready to start making the world (which is very well described by a link that you will find in the FreeBSD handbook). Notice that in /usr/src, you will see a file called .ctm_status. This contains information as to which ctm file you are up to. So if tomorrow you download src-3.0182.gz and src-3.0183.gz, then typing the command: cd /usr/src ctm ~me/xxx/src-* will cause only src-3.0182.gz and src-3.0183.gz to be applied - it will skip all of the other files. Actually, it is rather clever - if you do something stupid, like miss out one of the files, ctm will figure this out, and will not let you do this. I download them, but only apply the ctm command before I do an actual make world. You want to make sure that the sources match whatever binaries you have, because if you make changes to the kernel, you want to be sure that the kernel binary is in sync with your other binaries. The ports work similarly - in that case, I update the ports directory as soon as I get the ctm files. Just remember, when you do the very first ctm, you must have a *Empty.gz file as your starting point, and the directory into which you apply the ctm must be completely empty. After that, you need never download any more *Empty.gz files. The remaining files are quite small, so downloading them is not so bad. Another thing - if you ever modify one of the files that ctm has placed there, then any later ctm that attempts to modify that file will fail. What I do then is to completely clean out that directory and completely start over. I keep backups of all my ctm files for just that reason. Hope this helps. -- Stephen Montgomery-Smith stephen@math.missouri.edu 307 Math Science Building stephen@showme.missouri.edu Department of Mathematics stephen@missouri.edu University of Missouri-Columbia Columbia, MO 65211 USA Phone (573) 882 4540 Fax (573) 882 1869 http://math.missouri.edu/~stephen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 23: 1:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gw.caamora.com.au (jonath5.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.41.237]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEF4314D79 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 23:01:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jon@gw.caamora.com.au) Received: (from jon@localhost) by gw.caamora.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA06300; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 16:00:34 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jon) Message-ID: <19990615160033.C6185@caamora.com.au> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 16:00:33 +1000 From: jonathan michaels To: thierry.herbelot@alcatel.fr, uwe.laverenz@difi.de Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: burning a cd References: <19990614175436.B3802@caamora.com.au> <99061410533001.57175@edv1.difi.de> <3764C9BA.A6C9DE6A@telspace.alcatel.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <3764C9BA.A6C9DE6A@telspace.alcatel.fr>; from Thierry Herbelot on Mon, Jun 14, 1999 at 11:22:02AM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD gw.caamora.com.au 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 X-Mood: i'm alive, if it counts Organisation: Caamora, PO Box 144, Rosebery NSW 1445 Australia Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 14, 1999 at 11:22:02AM +0200, Thierry Herbelot wrote: > Hello, > > Is there any relation between mkhybrid and mkisofs ? (I've used mkhybrid > to master my CDs, but I could use mkisofs) - what are the advantages / > inconveniences of each package ? sorry, i'm just a raw beginner in all this media production and frisbie building game (grin), i'd like to be included in any reply chians that get thrown of by this tangent, please. > > TfH > > Uwe Laverenz wrote: > > > > Hi Jonathan, > > > > > this is good news thank you, i've been wondering how to do > > > joliet cds for the ms windows clients out thier in our target > > > audience. > > If you install the cdrecord-port, you will find a newer version of mkisofs > > included, which has to be installed manually (e.g. to /usr/local/bin ). > > > > The current version (1.12b5) supports Joliet-Extensions. The binary is hidden in > > /usr/ports/sysutils/cdrecord/work/cdrecord-1.8/mkisofs-1.12b5/OBJ/i386-freebsd-cc > > > > Uwe > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > -- > Thierry Herbelot > Phone : (+33) 1 46 52 47 23 > Home Page : http://perso.cybercable.fr/herbelot > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- =============================================================================== Jonathan Michaels PO Box 144, Rosebery, NSW 1445 Australia =========================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 14 23:54: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3104714F0C for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 23:54:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) id IAA27708; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 08:53:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: kip@lyris.com Cc: Dag-Erling Smorgrav , chad@DCFinc.com, nick@kolia.north.gencon.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: open files References: From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 15 Jun 1999 08:53:56 +0200 In-Reply-To: kip@lyris.com's message of "Mon, 14 Jun 1999 16:59:46 -0700 (PDT)" Message-ID: Lines: 11 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG kip@lyris.com writes: > I am sorry, but I don't see any files in there other than Makefile. When I > grep down the hierarchy for kern.maxfiles I eventually get "/usr/bin/grep: > Argument list too long". Is there a specific file somewhere in there? No. Don't use glob patterns; use find and xargs. And don't grep for 'kern.maxfiles', but for 'SYSCTL.*maxfiles'. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 1:47:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mta1.tm.net.my (mta1.tm.net.my [202.188.95.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE47D14F68; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 01:47:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rezath@tm.net.my) Received: from setan ([202.188.127.2]) by mta1.tm.net.my (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990615084708.NRHF3564@setan>; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 16:47:08 +0800 Message-ID: <00f901beb70c$b2cfb580$081603c8@tmmaster> From: "Rezamys" To: "Stephen Montgomery-Smith" Cc: , References: <003401beb6c9$e14aa5c0$081603c8@tmmaster> <3765E002.7FD1C821@math.missouri.edu> Subject: Re: upgrade 3.1 release to 3.2 stable via CTM Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 16:54:36 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.203 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.203 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello Stephen, Thanks for the swift response. I will follow the advise given. However there's this thing bothering me. The question is: You say; "make sure that usr/src" directory is complete empty". If one were to go there one will find many other directories inside. For example in my usr/src i will see things likebin/, contrib/,games/, sys/ and many others... Maybe u mean delete all the directories inside src? If my understanding is correct I'll need to spend most of the time deleting all those directories under src. It's a lot. And without these directories would it corrupt the OS as complete program? Please highlight. TQ ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith To: Rezamys Cc: ; Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 1999 1:09 PM Subject: Re: upgrade 3.1 release to 3.2 stable via CTM > > Rezamys wrote: > > > > Hi guys, > > > > Thanks for the mail. Actually I decided to install 3.1 release instead coz I > > see it's too much of trouble > > upgrading from 2.2.7 to 3.2 stable. Anyways I read alot bout doing CVSUP, > > make/build world n other stuff. most people do this way. Unfortunately I have > > terrible networks here so i decided to use CTM - took me 10 hours to > > download... > > > > I downloaded (via ftp) the "src-cur.3900xEmpty.gz" source as what I read in > > the complete freebsd book by greg lehey. It's about 52759KB. My question, > > what next? > > > > The CTM article in Freebsd site is "not much" of coverage. Any suggestions? > > > > TQ > > > > OK, I was able to get CTM to work, but not after a little trial and error. I > agree that the documentation is not easy to follow. But after it is mastered, > CTM is a very easy way to keep up with FreeBSD. > > Now, I'm sorry to say that you got the wrong file. Your file is pertinant to > CURRENT, and you want STABLE. > > Look in ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/CTM/src-3/ or a mirror of such. > Download src-3.0100xEmpty.gz and src-3.0101.gz to src-3.0181.gz (or whereever > it ends at). > > Put these files in some directory, say ~me/xxx. > > Now cd to the directory where you want to put the sources, lets say /usr/src. > Make sure that this directory is completely empty. > > cd /usr/src > ctm ~me/xxx/src-* > > The computer will decode all of the ctm files, and put them into /usr/src. > You are ready to start making the world (which is very well described by a link > that you will find in the FreeBSD handbook). > > Notice that in /usr/src, you will see a file called .ctm_status. This contains > information as to which ctm file you are up to. So if tomorrow you download > src-3.0182.gz and src-3.0183.gz, then typing the command: > > cd /usr/src > ctm ~me/xxx/src-* > > will cause only src-3.0182.gz and src-3.0183.gz to be applied - it will skip all > of the other files. Actually, it is rather clever - if you do something stupid, > like miss out one of the files, ctm will figure this out, and will not let you > do this. > > I download them, but only apply the ctm command before I do an actual make > world. > You want to make sure that the sources match whatever binaries you have, because > if you make changes to the kernel, you want to be sure that the kernel binary is > in sync with your other binaries. > > The ports work similarly - in that case, I update the ports directory as soon > as I get the ctm files. Just remember, when you do the very first ctm, you must > have a *Empty.gz file as your starting point, and the directory into which > you apply the ctm must be completely empty. > > After that, you need never download any more *Empty.gz files. The remaining > files are quite small, so downloading them is not so bad. > > Another thing - if you ever modify one of the files that ctm has placed there, > then any later ctm that attempts to modify that file will fail. What I do then > is > to completely clean out that directory and completely start over. I keep > backups > of all my ctm files for just that reason. > > Hope this helps. > > -- > > Stephen Montgomery-Smith stephen@math.missouri.edu > 307 Math Science Building stephen@showme.missouri.edu > Department of Mathematics stephen@missouri.edu > University of Missouri-Columbia > Columbia, MO 65211 > USA > > Phone (573) 882 4540 > Fax (573) 882 1869 > > http://math.missouri.edu/~stephen > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 1:49:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mel.alcatel.fr (mel.alcatel.fr [212.208.74.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24D9D14F68 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 01:49:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr) Received: from aifhs2.alcatel.fr (mailhub.alcatel.fr [155.132.180.80]) by mel.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP) with ESMTP id JAA14141; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:46:17 +0200 Received: from lune.telspace.alcatel.fr (lune.telspace.alcatel.fr [155.132.144.65]) by aifhs2.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP2) with ESMTP id KAA25255; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:43:38 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from telss1 (telss1.telspace.alcatel.fr [155.132.51.4]) by lune.telspace.alcatel.fr (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA24488; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:18:48 +0200 (MEST) Received: from telspace.alcatel.fr by telss1 (8.8.8+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id KAA04041; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:23:46 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <37660EE7.FDC8F664@telspace.alcatel.fr> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:29:27 +0200 From: Thierry Herbelot Reply-To: thierry.herbelot@alcatel.fr Organization: Alcatel CIT Nanterre X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Randall Hopper Cc: Thierry Herbelot , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: burning a cd References: <19990612223456.B210@caamora.com.au> <199906121513.IAA25324@kusanagi.boing.com> <19990613172117.D1670@caamora.com.au> <3764AE53.4FB4A94A@telspace.alcatel.fr> <19990614181836.A19492@ipass.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Randall Hopper wrote: > > Thierry Herbelot: > |This is just for the record (to get it archived) > | > |I found out that you need the "pass" device when you use cdrecord with > |SCSI CD burners (this could be in pkg/DESCR ?) > > This seems a bit unclear to me. Do you mean this device file needs to exist? > I know you don't need to pass it to cdrecord explicitly, so I'm assuming > this is what you meant. No, you must add the "pass" driver in the kernel config file (along with the host adapter - eg ncr0 on my machine - and scbus which is the bas scsi bus driver) TfH > > If so, that's good to know. I wasn't aware of it. > > Randall -- Thierry Herbelot (+33) 1 46 52 47 23 http://perso.cybercable.fr/herbelot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 4:50:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (hide14.nhs.uk [194.6.81.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8FA914C82 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 04:50:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@swlct.sthames.nhs.uk) Received: from greg (gquinlan [194.81.0.56]) by amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA31793 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 12:48:01 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <025d01beb725$37acd860$380051c2@qmpgmc.ac.uk> Reply-To: "Greg Quinlan" From: "Greg Quinlan" To: References: <19990612223456.B210@caamora.com.au> <199906121513.IAA25324@kusanagi.boing.com> <19990613172117.D1670@caamora.com.au> <3764AE53.4FB4A94A@telspace.alcatel.fr> <19990614181836.A19492@ipass.net> <37660EE7.FDC8F664@telspace.alcatel.fr> Subject: Linux not FreeBSD? Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 12:50:08 +0100 Organization: Queen Mary's Hospital (SWLCT) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, This might give people a little bit of a laugh (not really for this forum): Here is SCO (the Serious Commercial Organisation of the free software rip-offs merchants) Saying they are adding Linux compatibility.... well, well... could not be bothered doing their own thing anymore with free software source and decided to do some alignment with free software developers, and OS's so it wil make their product more attractive. But why Linux and not FreeBSD also? Well FreeBSD is compatiable with SCO (after they patched the OS to be compatiable with themselves ;) * SLS oss472a: Binary Misrecognition Patch ) They should atleast reciprocate!!! (very brief) http://www.sco.com/press/releases/1999/6849.html Greg ps. Patches to their last release SCO OSR5.0.4: app479a* oss449f* oss459b* oss463b* oss465b* oss467a* oss470a* oss469c* oss470a* oss471c* oss472a* oss475a* oss476a* oss478a* oss480a* oss481a* oss485a* oss491a* oss495c* oss496a* oss601a* And you were worried about FreeBSD stability? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 5:12:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from angel.double-barrel.be (mail.double-barrel.be [194.7.102.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A37514CF9 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 05:12:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mvergall@double-barrel.be) Received: from ws3.double-barrel.be (ws3.double-barrel.be [194.7.102.30]) by angel.double-barrel.be (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA26957; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:11:53 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (mvergall@localhost) by ws3.double-barrel.be (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id OAA00481; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:11:46 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: ws3.double-barrel.be: mvergall owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:11:45 +0200 (MEST) From: "Michael C. Vergallen" To: Greg Quinlan Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux not FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <025d01beb725$37acd860$380051c2@qmpgmc.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Greg Quinlan wrote: > Hi all, > > This might give people a little bit of a laugh (not really for this forum): > > Here is SCO (the Serious Commercial Organisation of the free software > rip-offs merchants) Saying they are adding Linux compatibility.... well, > well... could not be bothered doing their own thing anymore with free > software source and decided to do some alignment with free software > developers, and OS's so it wil make their product more attractive > > But why Linux and not FreeBSD also? Because FreeBSD dous not have the volume of users Linux apparently has. Now to be serious it does not realy matter because Linux Binaries run under FreeBSD so the apps from SCO should run on FreeBSD anyway. Michael To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 5:34:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailgrd.orion.no (postkontor.orion.no [194.143.1.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F020014D2D for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 05:34:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from raymond@orion.no) Received: from postkontor.orion.no (unverified [62.92.20.132]) by mailgrd.orion.no (Integralis SMTPRS 2.04) with ESMTP id ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:24:44 +0200 Received: from foobar.orion.no by postkontor.orion.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1460.8) id MRVC6T4Y; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:24:49 +0200 X-Mailer: 21.2 "Clio" XEmacs Lucid (beta12) (via feedmail 8 I); VM 6.71 under 21.2 "Clio" XEmacs Lucid (beta12) From: "Raymond Wiker" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <14182.17917.921115.728733@foobar.orion.no> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:24:29 +0200 (CEST) To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux not FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: References: <025d01beb725$37acd860$380051c2@qmpgmc.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Michael C. Vergallen writes: > On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Greg Quinlan wrote: > > But why Linux and not FreeBSD also? > Because FreeBSD dous not have the volume of users Linux apparently has. > Now to be serious it does not realy matter because Linux Binaries run > under FreeBSD so the apps from SCO should run on FreeBSD anyway. Not *all* applications run under the Linux emulation. Two notable exceptions are the "free" versions of Allegro Common Lisp and Harlequin Lispworks. This is (almost) sufficient reason for me to install Linux on one of my machines... Is there a mailing list/forum for discussing the Linux emulation under FreeBSD? //Raymond. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 6: 7:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from internet.madriver.k12.oh.us (madriver.k12.oh.us [156.63.175.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 13AD214C2D for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 06:07:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from MWhite@madriver.k12.oh.us) Received: from Mad_River-Message_Server by internet.madriver.k12.oh.us with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:07:43 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:07:24 -0400 From: "Matt White" To: Cc: Subject: Re: Live file system CD on 3.2-R? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>> "Mark W. Krentel" 06/14/99 10:40PM >>> > P.S. Would it be possible to put a few key ports on /usr/local on the=20 > live filesystem? A decent shell (bash, tcsh, pdksh) would be nice. I'd like to second that request. Having bash available along with sh = would be handy. Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 6: 8:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zabagek.ihf.rwth-aachen.de (zabagek.ihf.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.90.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CC4214C2D for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 06:08:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tg@zabagek.ihf.rwth-aachen.de) Received: (from tg@localhost) by zabagek.ihf.rwth-aachen.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA00447; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:08:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tg) To: Raymond Wiker Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux not FreeBSD? References: <025d01beb725$37acd860$380051c2@qmpgmc.ac.uk> <14182.17917.921115.728733@foobar.orion.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Thomas Gellekum Date: 15 Jun 1999 15:08:15 +0200 In-Reply-To: Raymond Wiker's message of "Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:24:29 +0200 (CEST)" Message-ID: Lines: 15 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.34/XEmacs 20.4 - "Emerald" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Raymond Wiker writes: > Not *all* applications run under the Linux emulation. Two > notable exceptions are the "free" versions of Allegro Common Lisp and > Harlequin Lispworks. This is (almost) sufficient reason for me to > install Linux on one of my machines... I thought the emulation has been fixed for ACL some time last fall. > Is there a mailing list/forum for discussing the Linux > emulation under FreeBSD? freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org. tg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 6:58:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ideaglobal.com (ultra2.ideaglobal.com [194.36.20.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A8B215011 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 06:58:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kiril@ideaglobal.com) Received: (from kiril@localhost) by ideaglobal.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id OAA18112 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:53:14 +0100 (BST) From: Kiril Mitev Message-Id: <199906151353.OAA18112@ideaglobal.com> Subject: vinum cant open history file To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:53:13 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Heello messages from the console during boot: vinum: loaded Cant't open history file /var/tmp/vinum_history: No such file or directory (2) Vinum: reading from /dev/da4s1e ..... /dev is mounted read-only, not rebuilding /dev/vinum its the "history file" message that worries me. It obviously does not exist at THIS time, sine only root is mounted. HOwever, the reboot was caused by me hitting the reset button, since kde/X11 or something in it had locked up the box completely(1). i dont recall seeing this message during a normal boot, and i was wondering whether the "history" file keeps something that vinum requires to start up properly(2). is it something to worry about, to the extent that when there is an unproper shutdown next time i should reboot single-user, mount /var and start vinum manually, or can i just ignore it ? Kiril ==== (1) at least i HOPE its kde/x11 (2) to an unknown by me definition of "properly" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 7:12:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ideaglobal.com (ultra2.ideaglobal.com [194.36.20.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1153A14EFC for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 07:12:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kiril@ideaglobal.com) Received: (from kiril@localhost) by ideaglobal.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id PAA20613 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:07:08 +0100 (BST) From: Kiril Mitev Message-Id: <199906151407.PAA20613@ideaglobal.com> Subject: Re: Linux not FreeBSD? (fwd) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:07:08 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Forwarded message: > > On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Greg Quinlan wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > This might give people a little bit of a laugh (not really for this forum): > > > > Here is SCO (the Serious Commercial Organisation of the free software > > rip-offs merchants) Saying they are adding Linux compatibility.... well, > > well... could not be bothered doing their own thing anymore with free > > software source and decided to do some alignment with free software > > developers, and OS's so it wil make their product more attractive > > > > But why Linux and not FreeBSD also? > Because FreeBSD dous not have the volume of users Linux apparently has. s/users/programs/ > Now to be serious it does not realy matter because Linux Binaries run > under FreeBSD so the apps from SCO should run on FreeBSD anyway. > > Michael > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > Kiril To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 7:22:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bogslab.ucdavis.edu (bogslab.ucdavis.edu [169.237.68.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4073414EFC for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 07:22:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@bogslab.ucdavis.edu) Received: from deal1.bogs.org (deal1.bogs.org [198.137.203.51]) by bogslab.ucdavis.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA14329 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 07:22:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from deal1.bogs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by deal1.bogs.org (8.8.8/8.6.12) with ESMTP id HAA05538 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 07:22:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199906151422.HAA05538@deal1.bogs.org> To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-To: "Raymond Wiker" X-Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux not FreeBSD? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:24:29 +0200." <14182.17917.921115.728733@foobar.orion.no> Reply-To: gkshenaut@ucdavis.edu Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 07:22:10 -0700 From: Greg Shenaut Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <14182.17917.921115.728733@foobar.orion.no>, "Raymond Wiker" cleopede: >Michael C. Vergallen writes: > > On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Greg Quinlan wrote: > > > But why Linux and not FreeBSD also? > > Because FreeBSD dous not have the volume of users Linux apparently has. > > Now to be serious it does not realy matter because Linux Binaries run > > under FreeBSD so the apps from SCO should run on FreeBSD anyway. > > Not *all* applications run under the Linux emulation. Two >notable exceptions are the "free" versions of Allegro Common Lisp and >Harlequin Lispworks. This is (almost) sufficient reason for me to >install Linux on one of my machines... I had a nightmare: Intuit finally decides to support a *nix version of Quicken. Rejoicing, I get out the lighter fluid, ready to ceremonially burn my last M$ machine. Then I find out that Intuit will only support a Linux version, which won't run under FreeBSD. Aaarrrggggghhhh!!!! -Greg Shenaut To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 7:53:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from angel.double-barrel.be (mail.double-barrel.be [194.7.102.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CF1915068 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 07:53:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mvergall@double-barrel.be) Received: from ws3.double-barrel.be (ws3.double-barrel.be [194.7.102.30]) by angel.double-barrel.be (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA27039; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 16:53:24 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (mvergall@localhost) by ws3.double-barrel.be (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id QAA00540; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 16:53:13 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: ws3.double-barrel.be: mvergall owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 16:53:13 +0200 (MEST) From: "Michael C. Vergallen" To: gkshenaut@ucdavis.edu Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux not FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <199906151422.HAA05538@deal1.bogs.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Greg Shenaut wrote: > I had a nightmare: Intuit finally decides to support a *nix version > of Quicken. Rejoicing, I get out the lighter fluid, ready to > ceremonially burn my last M$ machine. Then I find out that Intuit > will only support a Linux version, which won't run under FreeBSD. Yes but unfortunatly this could happen because the FreeBSD community does not have "Big commercial names" behind them and no commercial entity behind them to promote it as a viable alternative...I personally find this to be rediculous but... Michael To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 7:58:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ideaglobal.com (ultra2.ideaglobal.com [194.36.20.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7684015627; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 07:58:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kiril@ideaglobal.com) Received: (from kiril@localhost) by ideaglobal.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id PAA08670; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:52:52 +0100 (BST) From: Kiril Mitev Message-Id: <199906151452.PAA08670@ideaglobal.com> Subject: Re: Linux not FreeBSD? To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:52:51 +0100 (BST) Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Michael C. Vergallen" at Jun 15, 99 04:53:13 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Greg Shenaut wrote: > > I had a nightmare: Intuit finally decides to support a *nix version > > of Quicken. Rejoicing, I get out the lighter fluid, ready to > > ceremonially burn my last M$ machine. Then I find out that Intuit > > will only support a Linux version, which won't run under FreeBSD. > > Yes but unfortunatly this could happen because the FreeBSD community does > not have "Big commercial names" behind them and no commercial entity > behind them to promote it as a viable alternative...I personally find this > to be rediculous but... > > Michael Well, the F-BSD community could try to recruit Sybase :-). Not having Sybase for f-bsd is my personal gripe, sorry :-)))) (cant set follow-ups, sorry) Kiril > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 8:51:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from neutron.cichlids.com (as7-047.rp-plus.de [149.221.239.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBF4B14A2F for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 08:51:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@cichlids.com) Received: from cichlids.cichlids.com (cichlids.cichlids.com [192.168.0.10]) by neutron.cichlids.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA04133; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 17:51:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from alex@localhost) by cichlids.cichlids.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA02395; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 17:51:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from alex) From: Alexander Langer Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 17:51:38 +0200 To: "Michael C. Vergallen" Cc: gkshenaut@ucdavis.edu, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux not FreeBSD? Message-ID: <19990615175138.A2300@cichlids.cichlids.com> References: <199906151422.HAA05538@deal1.bogs.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thus spake Michael C. Vergallen (mvergall@double-barrel.be): > Yes but unfortunatly this could happen because the FreeBSD community does > not have "Big commercial names" behind them and no commercial entity > behind them to promote it as a viable alternative...I personally find this > to be rediculous but... Does the FreeBSD community want this? Such a user hype as there is on linux brings much people who never think of reading a handbook etc. Additionally, writing pseudo-hacker-applications, as Winnuke or such a thing, that exploits a OS, that is only used by "few" people just won´t happen (almost), but will happen if many people use it (if you know/understand, what I try to express). Alex -- ************** I doubt, therefore I might be. ************** *** Send email to to get PGP-Key *** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 8:58:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles504.castles.com [208.214.165.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1042914C2D for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 08:58:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA03310; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 08:55:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199906151555.IAA03310@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Raymond Wiker" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux not FreeBSD? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:24:29 +0200." <14182.17917.921115.728733@foobar.orion.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 08:55:48 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Not *all* applications run under the Linux emulation. Two > notable exceptions are the "free" versions of Allegro Common Lisp and > Harlequin Lispworks. This is (almost) sufficient reason for me to > install Linux on one of my machines... > > Is there a mailing list/forum for discussing the Linux > emulation under FreeBSD? You should look at the FreeBSD website, where it would take you only a few seconds to discover the emulation@freebsd.org address. We have actually in the past had success running ACL under FreeBSD; it ought to work. -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 9: 0:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from homer.web-ex.com (homer.web-ex.com [209.54.66.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B505155FE for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:00:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@web-ex.com) Received: from localhost (jim@localhost) by homer.web-ex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA28922 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 12:00:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jim@web-ex.com) X-Authentication-Warning: homer.web-ex.com: jim owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 12:00:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Cassata To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux not FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <199906151452.PAA08670@ideaglobal.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Kiril Mitev wrote: > > Well, the F-BSD community could try to recruit Sybase :-). Not > having Sybase for f-bsd is my personal gripe, sorry :-)))) > I am not a developer, but it would seem that any software that runs on BSDI or Linux is not too far from being made to run on FreeBSD if it doesn't already. Jim Cassata 516.421.6000 jim@web-ex.com Web Express 20 Broadhollow Road Suite 3011 Melville, NY 11747 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 9: 7:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from angel.double-barrel.be (mail.double-barrel.be [194.7.102.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 316B715243 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:06:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mvergall@double-barrel.be) Received: from ws3.double-barrel.be (ws3.double-barrel.be [194.7.102.30]) by angel.double-barrel.be (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA27100; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 18:06:39 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (mvergall@localhost) by ws3.double-barrel.be (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id SAA00552; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 18:06:33 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: ws3.double-barrel.be: mvergall owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 18:06:33 +0200 (MEST) From: "Michael C. Vergallen" To: Alexander Langer Cc: gkshenaut@ucdavis.edu, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux not FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <19990615175138.A2300@cichlids.cichlids.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Alexander Langer wrote: > Thus spake Michael C. Vergallen (mvergall@double-barrel.be): > > > Yes but unfortunatly this could happen because the FreeBSD community does > > not have "Big commercial names" behind them and no commercial entity > > behind them to promote it as a viable alternative...I personally find this > > to be rediculous but... > > Does the FreeBSD community want this? Personally I would say that the FreeBSD community does not need it. > > Such a user hype as there is on linux brings much people who never > think of reading a handbook etc. This is only one of the reasons why I don't like to see this happen the other is all the commercial interests will eventually be detremental to Linux as a OS. Michael To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 9: 9:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tranq1.tranquility.net (tranq1.tranquility.net [206.156.230.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FAD7155E2; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:09:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from math.missouri.edu (stephen.tranquility.net [206.156.230.78]) by tranq1.tranquility.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA20359; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 11:09:14 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <37667AA0.7A6F3DD4@math.missouri.edu> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 11:09:04 -0500 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rezamys Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: upgrade 3.1 release to 3.2 stable via CTM References: <003401beb6c9$e14aa5c0$081603c8@tmmaster> <3765E002.7FD1C821@math.missouri.edu> <00f901beb70c$b2cfb580$081603c8@tmmaster> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Rezamys wrote: > > Hello Stephen, > Thanks for the swift response. I will follow the advise given. However > there's this thing bothering me. > The question is: You say; "make sure that usr/src" directory is complete > empty". If one were to go there one will find many other directories inside. > For example in my usr/src i will see things likebin/, contrib/,games/, sys/ > and many others... > Maybe u mean delete all the directories inside src? If my understanding is > correct I'll need to spend most of the time deleting all those directories > under src. It's a lot. And without these directories would it corrupt the OS > as complete program? > Please highlight. > TQ Yes, I mean delete all those subdirectories. But it is not so hard: cd /usr/src rm -rf * will do it. Well, it will take a little time, maybe a minute or so (unless you have softupdates in which case it will be a few seconds). Applying ctm will recreate all these directories. The OS needs nothing in /usr/src to operate. (If you have a custom kernel in sys/i386/conf, maybe you want to save it first.) -- Stephen Montgomery-Smith stephen@math.missouri.edu 307 Math Science Building stephen@showme.missouri.edu Department of Mathematics stephen@missouri.edu University of Missouri-Columbia Columbia, MO 65211 USA Phone (573) 882 4540 Fax (573) 882 1869 http://math.missouri.edu/~stephen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 9:14:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.cioe.com (ns1.cioe.com [204.120.165.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F9A4155E0 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:14:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@ns1.cioe.com) Received: (from steve@localhost) by ns1.cioe.com (8.9.2/8.9.3) id LAA53574; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 11:14:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from steve) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 11:14:01 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Ames Message-Id: <199906151614.LAA53574@ns1.cioe.com> To: alex@cichlids.com, mvergall@double-barrel.be Subject: Re: Linux not FreeBSD? Cc: gkshenaut@ucdavis.edu, stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > Yes but unfortunatly this could happen because the FreeBSD community does > > > not have "Big commercial names" behind them and no commercial entity > > > behind them to promote it as a viable alternative...I personally find this > > > to be rediculous but... > > > > Does the FreeBSD community want this? > > Personally I would say that the FreeBSD community does not need it. Hrm... I would say the FreeBSD community _DOES NEED_ high-end, commercial application support. What's the use of having the best OS if you can't run the best applications on it? How many of us have an NT and/or Linux box on hand just to run apps that won't run on FreeBSD. Or if they do run, they don't run well? > > Such a user hype as there is on linux brings much people who never > > think of reading a handbook etc. > > This is only one of the reasons why I don't like to see this happen the > other is all the commercial interests will eventually be detremental to > Linux as a OS. Perhaps. I'd like to think that Linus won't allow this to happen. While we're waiting to see if this interest is detremental to the OS we can also watch as major sofware vendors start viewing unix (yeah, yeah) as a viable market again. -Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 9:27: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at [128.130.111.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B35115018 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:26:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at) Received: from markab (markab [128.130.111.33]) by vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA02583; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 18:26:28 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 18:26:27 +0200 (MET DST) From: Gerald Pfeifer To: Raymond Wiker Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux not FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <14182.17917.921115.728733@foobar.orion.no> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Raymond Wiker wrote: > Not *all* applications run under the Linux emulation. ...and not all are trivial to install. Personally I believe that complete and transparent (concerning installation) emulation in -RELEASE are a most important feature to prevent sites like mine from migrating to Linux if users push stronger and stronger. Note, this a not flame, rather a report from someone who has had to defend FreeBSD repeatedly. > Is there a mailing list/forum for discussing the Linux emulation under > FreeBSD? emulation@freebsd.org, http://www.freebsd.org/ has the details on how to subscribe etc. Gerald -- Gerald "Jerry" pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at http://www.dbai.tuwien.ac.at/~pfeifer/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 9:36:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ideaglobal.com (ultra2.ideaglobal.com [194.36.20.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B6A314CC0 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:36:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kiril@ideaglobal.com) Received: (from kiril@localhost) by ideaglobal.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id RAA26193; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 17:29:17 +0100 (BST) From: Kiril Mitev Message-Id: <199906151629.RAA26193@ideaglobal.com> Subject: Re: Linux not FreeBSD? To: steve@cioe.com (Steve Ames) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 17:29:17 +0100 (BST) Cc: alex@cichlids.com, mvergall@double-barrel.be, gkshenaut@ucdavis.edu, stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199906151614.LAA53574@ns1.cioe.com> from "Steve Ames" at Jun 15, 99 11:14:01 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > > > Yes but unfortunatly this could happen because the FreeBSD community does > > > > not have "Big commercial names" behind them and no commercial entity > > > > behind them to promote it as a viable alternative...I personally find this > > > > to be rediculous but... > > > > > > Does the FreeBSD community want this? > > > > Personally I would say that the FreeBSD community does not need it. > > Hrm... I would say the FreeBSD community _DOES NEED_ high-end, commercial > application support. What's the use of having the best OS if you can't > run the best applications on it? How many of us have an NT and/or Linux > box on hand just to run apps that won't run on FreeBSD. Or if they do > run, they don't run well? > > > > Such a user hype as there is on linux brings much people who never > > > think of reading a handbook etc. > > > > This is only one of the reasons why I don't like to see this happen the > > other is all the commercial interests will eventually be detremental to > > Linux as a OS. > > Perhaps. I'd like to think that Linus won't allow this to happen. While > we're waiting to see if this interest is detremental to the OS we can > also watch as major sofware vendors start viewing unix (yeah, yeah) as > a viable market again. OTOH, how much good will it do have umpteen distributions of FreeBSD ? That will be unavoidable, i would think....Although I DO think that a bit more "marketing" won't do much harm. > -Steve > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message can we please move this thread to -chat ? Kiril To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 10:34:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from aeolus.conio.net (ci221559-a.grnvle1.sc.home.com [24.4.122.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D322B15374 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:34:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sam@conio.net) Received: (qmail 3425 invoked from network); 15 Jun 1999 17:36:56 -0000 Received: from ci221559-b.grnvle1.sc.home.com (HELO thanatos) (24.4.122.130) by ci221559-a.grnvle1.sc.home.com with SMTP; 15 Jun 1999 17:36:56 -0000 From: "Sam Stephenson" To: , Subject: 'w' patch Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 13:38:29 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01BEB734.5AA5A4A0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2212 (4.71.2419.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BEB734.5AA5A4A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There seem to be two problems (not even problems; more like annoyances) that exist in the 'w' command, both which involve unnecessary spacing that limits the size of the WHAT field. I have attached a patch to /usr/src/usr.bin/w/w.c which corrects the following: - The size of the USER field is now dynamically allocated as the length of the longest username, with a minimum of 5 spaces. In FreeBSD 2.2.x and lower, before long usernames existed, the field size was 8. It was enlarged to 16 to provide long username support, but on systems with shorter usernames, the wasted space can be bothersome. - UT_LINESIZE is redefined to 3; it was originally 5 because 'who' output shows the entire device name (e.g. ttyp0). Since 'w' only shows the 'p0' part, there are two unnecessary spaces. Please have a look at this patch, and consider implementing it into the source tree. --Sam Stephenson sam@conio.net ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BEB734.5AA5A4A0 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="w.patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="w.patch" 104a105,114=0A= > * UT_LINESIZE is 5 for who output, because the entire terminal device = name=0A= > * is shown (e.g. ttyp0). Since we only show the 'p0' in w, we'll = redefine=0A= > * this to 3 to save space.=0A= > */=0A= > #ifdef UT_LINESIZE=0A= > #undef UT_LINESIZE=0A= > #endif=0A= > #define UT_LINESIZE 3=0A= > =0A= > /*=0A= 138c148=0A= < int ch, i, nentries, nusers, wcmd, longidle;=0A= ---=0A= > int ch, i, nentries, nusers, wcmd, longidle, maxnamelen=3D5;=0A= 217a228,238=0A= > =0A= > /*=0A= > * Calculate the maximum number of spaces needed for=0A= > * each username. Previously 16; in 2.2.x and lower,=0A= > * when long usernames did not exist, 8 spaces were=0A= > * used. To avoid wasted space we will now do this=0A= > * dynamically.=0A= > */=0A= > if (strlen(utmp.ut_name) > maxnamelen)=0A= > maxnamelen =3D strlen(utmp.ut_name);=0A= > =0A= 252c273=0A= < #define WUSED (UT_NAMESIZE + UT_LINESIZE + UT_HOSTSIZE + \=0A= ---=0A= > #define WUSED (maxnamelen + UT_LINESIZE + UT_HOSTSIZE + \=0A= 255c276=0A= < UT_NAMESIZE, UT_NAMESIZE, HEADER_USER,=0A= ---=0A= > maxnamelen, maxnamelen, HEADER_USER,=0A= 382c403=0A= < UT_NAMESIZE, UT_NAMESIZE, ep->utmp.ut_name,=0A= ---=0A= > maxnamelen, maxnamelen, ep->utmp.ut_name,=0A= ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BEB734.5AA5A4A0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 11:10:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from debonair.pussycatwatch.com (debonair.pussycatwatch.com [206.251.95.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB22E15601 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 11:10:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rich@paranoid.org) Received: by debonair.pussycatwatch.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 467DC46813; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 11:16:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by debonair.pussycatwatch.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D438C02A for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 11:16:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 11:16:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Rich Burroughs X-Sender: rich@debonair.pussycatwatch.com To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: signal 6 In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990614225834.0646a880@granite.sentex.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Mike Tancsa wrote: > Were you playing around with your limits by chance ? No :) > Assuming you are > running csh, what does > limit > give you ? I use bash, actually, but I hopped into csh and got this: cputime unlimited filesize unlimited datasize 524288 kbytes stacksize 65536 kbytes coredumpsize unlimited memoryuse unlimited memorylocked unlimited maxproc 531 openfiles 1064 I find it hard to believe that this is hardware, as I didn't have the problem with 2.2, AFAIK. The only things that changed with the upgrade were a new hard drive and a newer SCSI controller (Adaptec 2940 Ultra2). My first instinct was to make buildworld and installworld with the latest sources, but, like I said, I don't seem to be able to get anything to compile. I can't even do a kernel compile without getting signal 6... Thanks, Rich To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 11:16:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from luna.lyris.net (luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7448715622 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 11:16:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kip@lyris.com) Received: from luna.shelby.com by luna.lyris.net (8.9.1b+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id LAA17500; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 11:09:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from (luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6]) by luna.shelby.com with SMTP (MailShield v1.50); Tue, 15 Jun 1999 11:09:56 -0700 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 11:09:55 -0700 (PDT) From: X-Sender: kip@luna To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: chad@DCFinc.com, nick@kolia.north.gencon.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: open files In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-SMTP-HELO: luna X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: kip@lyris.com X-SMTP-RCPT-TO: des@flood.ping.uio.no,chad@DCFinc.com,nick@kolia.north.gencon.com,freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG find . -name "*" | xargs grep "SYSCTL\." and find . -name "*" | xargs grep "SYSCTL\.*maxfiles" don't find anything, just searching for SYSCTL ends up searching through binaries. -Kip On 15 Jun 1999, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > kip@lyris.com writes: > > I am sorry, but I don't see any files in there other than Makefile. When I > > grep down the hierarchy for kern.maxfiles I eventually get "/usr/bin/grep: > > Argument list too long". Is there a specific file somewhere in there? > > No. Don't use glob patterns; use find and xargs. And don't grep for > 'kern.maxfiles', but for 'SYSCTL.*maxfiles'. > > DES > -- > Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 12: 3:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite.sentex.ca [199.212.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C259115617 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 12:02:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simoeon (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA12636; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:02:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990615150142.0119bc30@staff.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@staff.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:01:42 -0400 To: Rich Burroughs , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: signal 6 In-Reply-To: References: <4.1.19990614225834.0646a880@granite.sentex.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 11:16 AM 6/15/99 -0700, Rich Burroughs wrote: >On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Mike Tancsa wrote: > >> Were you playing around with your limits by chance ? > >No :) > >> Assuming you are >> running csh, what does >> limit >> give you ? > >I use bash, actually, but I hopped into csh and got this: > > cputime unlimited > filesize unlimited > datasize 524288 kbytes > stacksize 65536 kbytes > coredumpsize unlimited > memoryuse unlimited > memorylocked unlimited > maxproc 531 > openfiles 1064 > >I find it hard to believe that this is hardware, as I didn't have the >problem with 2.2, AFAIK. The only things that changed with the upgrade >were a new hard drive and a newer SCSI controller (Adaptec 2940 Ultra2). > >My first instinct was to make buildworld and installworld with the latest >sources, but, like I said, I don't seem to be able to get anything to >compile. I can't even do a kernel compile without getting signal 6... They all look reasonable... Just for fun, try and compile things using csh. I zeroed in on the limits issue, because one of our shell users had this problem with pine and bash, and it was a memory / limits issue as pine was going bonkers trying to decode a large mime attachment, and would die with a signal 6. Doubt thats the issue, but you might as well try because it could be some bizzare thing with bash... ---Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Tancsa, tel 01.519.651.3400 Network Administrator, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 12:17:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pop3-3.enteract.com (pop3-3.enteract.com [207.229.143.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E309314DF5 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 12:17:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dscheidt@enteract.com) Received: (qmail 17712 invoked from network); 15 Jun 1999 19:17:21 -0000 Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (dscheidt@207.229.143.40) by pop3-3.enteract.com with SMTP; 15 Jun 1999 19:17:21 -0000 Received: from localhost (dscheidt@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with SMTP id OAA90191; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:17:20 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dscheidt@enteract.com) X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: dscheidt owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:17:20 -0500 (CDT) From: David Scheidt To: Sam Stephenson Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 'w' patch In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Sam Stephenson wrote: > There seem to be two problems (not even problems; more like annoyances) that > exist in the 'w' command, both which involve unnecessary spacing that limits > the size of the WHAT field. I have attached a patch to > /usr/src/usr.bin/w/w.c which corrects the following: I applied this to -CURRENT. The USER bit works correctly. IDLE and WHAT are broken, it appears. rally3# ./w 12:56PM up 5 days, 5:08, 16 users, load averages: 0.19, 0.04, 0.01 USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT dms v0 - Thu07AM 21 - dms p0 :0.0 12:32PM 21 - dms p1 :0.0 Thu07AM 21 - dms p2 :0.0 Thu07AM 21 - dms p3 :0.0 Thu09AM 21 - dms p4 :0.0 Thu04PM 21 - dms p5 - Mon02PM 21 - dms p6 :0.0 Fri01PM 21 - dms p7 :0.0 Mon10AM 21 - dms p8 :0.0 Mon11AM 21 - dms p9 :0.0 Mon11AM 21 - dms pa :0.0 7:41AM 21 - root pb :0.0 12:40PM 21 - jabba pc :0.0 12:53PM 21 - jabba1 pd :0.0 12:53PM 21 - jabba12345 pe :0.0 12:56PM 21 - One minor nit: I think two spaces between USER and TTY looks better. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 12:53: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from aeolus.conio.net (ci221559-a.grnvle1.sc.home.com [24.4.122.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AD8F815308 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 12:52:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sam@conio.net) Received: (qmail 3638 invoked by uid 1001); 15 Jun 1999 19:55:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 15 Jun 1999 19:55:17 -0000 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:55:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Sam Stephenson X-Sender: sam@aeolus To: David Scheidt Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 'w' patch In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm using 3.2-STABLE. Could that be the problem? --Sam Stephenson sam@conio.net On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, David Scheidt wrote: > On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Sam Stephenson wrote: > > > There seem to be two problems (not even problems; more like annoyances) that > > exist in the 'w' command, both which involve unnecessary spacing that limits > > the size of the WHAT field. I have attached a patch to > > /usr/src/usr.bin/w/w.c which corrects the following: > > I applied this to -CURRENT. The USER bit works correctly. IDLE and WHAT > are broken, it appears. > > rally3# ./w > 12:56PM up 5 days, 5:08, 16 users, load averages: 0.19, 0.04, 0.01 > USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT > dms v0 - Thu07AM 21 - > dms p0 :0.0 12:32PM 21 - > dms p1 :0.0 Thu07AM 21 - > dms p2 :0.0 Thu07AM 21 - > dms p3 :0.0 Thu09AM 21 - > dms p4 :0.0 Thu04PM 21 - > dms p5 - Mon02PM 21 - > dms p6 :0.0 Fri01PM 21 - > dms p7 :0.0 Mon10AM 21 - > dms p8 :0.0 Mon11AM 21 - > dms p9 :0.0 Mon11AM 21 - > dms pa :0.0 7:41AM 21 - > root pb :0.0 12:40PM 21 - > jabba pc :0.0 12:53PM 21 - > jabba1 pd :0.0 12:53PM 21 - > jabba12345 pe :0.0 12:56PM 21 - > > One minor nit: I think two spaces between USER and TTY looks better. > > David > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 13:22:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cs.rice.edu (cs.rice.edu [128.42.1.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 196C315429 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 13:22:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alc@cs.rice.edu) Received: (from alc@localhost) by cs.rice.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) id PAA06945; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:22:01 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:22:01 -0500 From: Alan Cox To: Jason Evans Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kernel panic with mmap() and VM_STACK (fix) Message-ID: <19990615152201.B5893@cs.rice.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=9amGYk9869ThD9tj X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.5us Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --9amGYk9869ThD9tj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Please try the attached patch. Alan --9amGYk9869ThD9tj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="stable.patch" Index: kern/kern_exec.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/kern/kern_exec.c,v retrieving revision 1.93.2.1 diff -c -r1.93.2.1 kern_exec.c *** kern_exec.c 1999/04/14 04:55:23 1.93.2.1 --- kern_exec.c 1999/06/15 08:30:54 *************** *** 429,435 **** int error; struct vmspace *vmspace = imgp->proc->p_vmspace; #ifdef VM_STACK ! caddr_t stack_addr = (caddr_t) (USRSTACK - MAXSSIZ); #else caddr_t stack_addr = (caddr_t) (USRSTACK - SGROWSIZ); #endif --- 429,435 ---- int error; struct vmspace *vmspace = imgp->proc->p_vmspace; #ifdef VM_STACK ! vm_offset_t stack_addr = USRSTACK - MAXSSIZ; #else caddr_t stack_addr = (caddr_t) (USRSTACK - SGROWSIZ); #endif *************** *** 455,462 **** /* Allocate a new stack */ #ifdef VM_STACK ! error = vm_map_stack (&vmspace->vm_map, (vm_offset_t)stack_addr, ! (vm_size_t)MAXSSIZ, VM_PROT_ALL, VM_PROT_ALL, 0); if (error) return (error); --- 455,465 ---- /* Allocate a new stack */ #ifdef VM_STACK ! error = vm_map_find(&vmspace->vm_map, ! NULL, 0, ! &stack_addr, MAXSSIZ, FALSE, ! VM_PROT_ALL, VM_PROT_ALL, ! VM_MAP_STACK); if (error) return (error); Index: vm/vm_map.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/vm/vm_map.c,v retrieving revision 1.139.2.7 diff -c -r1.139.2.7 vm_map.c *** vm_map.c 1999/06/13 04:06:41 1.139.2.7 --- vm_map.c 1999/06/15 07:50:40 *************** *** 437,442 **** --- 437,443 ---- vm_map_entry_t prev_entry; vm_map_entry_t temp_entry; vm_object_t prev_object; + vm_offset_t avail_ssize; u_char protoeflags; if ((object != NULL) && (cow & MAP_NOFAULT)) { *************** *** 469,475 **** --- 470,487 ---- (prev_entry->next->start < end)) return (KERN_NO_SPACE); + avail_ssize = 0; + protoeflags = 0; + if (cow & VM_MAP_STACK) { + vm_offset_t base; + + if ((base = end - SGROWSIZ) > start) { + avail_ssize = base - start; + start = base; + } + protoeflags |= MAP_ENTRY_STACK; + } if (cow & MAP_COPY_NEEDED) protoeflags |= MAP_ENTRY_NEEDS_COPY; *************** *** 539,549 **** new_entry = vm_map_entry_create(map); new_entry->start = start; new_entry->end = end; new_entry->eflags = protoeflags; new_entry->object.vm_object = object; new_entry->offset = offset; - new_entry->avail_ssize = 0; if (map->is_main_map) { new_entry->inheritance = VM_INHERIT_DEFAULT; --- 551,561 ---- new_entry = vm_map_entry_create(map); new_entry->start = start; new_entry->end = end; + new_entry->avail_ssize = avail_ssize; new_entry->eflags = protoeflags; new_entry->object.vm_object = object; new_entry->offset = offset; if (map->is_main_map) { new_entry->inheritance = VM_INHERIT_DEFAULT; *************** *** 567,637 **** default_pager_convert_to_swapq(object); return (KERN_SUCCESS); - } - - int - vm_map_stack (vm_map_t map, vm_offset_t addrbos, vm_size_t max_ssize, - vm_prot_t prot, vm_prot_t max, int cow) - { - vm_map_entry_t prev_entry; - vm_map_entry_t new_stack_entry; - vm_size_t init_ssize; - int rv; - - if (VM_MIN_ADDRESS > 0 && addrbos < VM_MIN_ADDRESS) - return (KERN_NO_SPACE); - - if (max_ssize < SGROWSIZ) - init_ssize = max_ssize; - else - init_ssize = SGROWSIZ; - - vm_map_lock(map); - - /* If addr is already mapped, no go */ - if (vm_map_lookup_entry(map, addrbos, &prev_entry)) { - vm_map_unlock(map); - return (KERN_NO_SPACE); - } - - /* If we can't accomodate max_ssize in the current mapping, - * no go. However, we need to be aware that subsequent user - * mappings might map into the space we have reserved for - * stack, and currently this space is not protected. - * - * Hopefully we will at least detect this condition - * when we try to grow the stack. - */ - if ((prev_entry->next != &map->header) && - (prev_entry->next->start < addrbos + max_ssize)) { - vm_map_unlock(map); - return (KERN_NO_SPACE); - } - - /* We initially map a stack of only init_ssize. We will - * grow as needed later. Since this is to be a grow - * down stack, we map at the top of the range. - * - * Note: we would normally expect prot and max to be - * VM_PROT_ALL, and cow to be 0. Possibly we should - * eliminate these as input parameters, and just - * pass these values here in the insert call. - */ - rv = vm_map_insert(map, NULL, 0, addrbos + max_ssize - init_ssize, - addrbos + max_ssize, prot, max, cow); - - /* Now set the avail_ssize amount */ - if (rv == KERN_SUCCESS){ - new_stack_entry = prev_entry->next; - if (new_stack_entry->end != addrbos + max_ssize || - new_stack_entry->start != addrbos + max_ssize - init_ssize) - panic ("Bad entry start/end for new stack entry"); - else - new_stack_entry->avail_ssize = max_ssize - init_ssize; - } - - vm_map_unlock(map); - return (rv); } /* Attempts to grow a vm stack entry. Returns KERN_SUCCESS if the --- 579,584 ---- Index: vm/vm_map.h =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/vm/vm_map.h,v retrieving revision 1.33.2.2 diff -c -r1.33.2.2 vm_map.h *** vm_map.h 1999/03/11 05:56:49 1.33.2.2 --- vm_map.h 1999/06/15 07:39:56 *************** *** 119,124 **** --- 119,125 ---- #define MAP_ENTRY_NEEDS_COPY 0x8 #define MAP_ENTRY_NOFAULT 0x10 #define MAP_ENTRY_USER_WIRED 0x20 + #define MAP_ENTRY_STACK 0x40 /* * Maps are doubly-linked lists of map entries, kept sorted *************** *** 296,301 **** --- 297,303 ---- #define MAP_COPY_NEEDED 0x1 #define MAP_COPY_ON_WRITE 0x2 #define MAP_NOFAULT 0x4 + #define VM_MAP_STACK 0x20 /* * vm_fault option flags *************** *** 340,346 **** void vm_init2 __P((void)); int vm_uiomove __P((vm_map_t, vm_object_t, off_t, int, vm_offset_t, int *)); void vm_freeze_copyopts __P((vm_object_t, vm_pindex_t, vm_pindex_t)); - int vm_map_stack __P((vm_map_t, vm_offset_t, vm_size_t, vm_prot_t, vm_prot_t, int)); int vm_map_growstack __P((struct proc *p, vm_offset_t addr)); #endif --- 342,347 ---- Index: vm/vm_mmap.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/vm/vm_mmap.c,v retrieving revision 1.86.2.2 diff -c -r1.86.2.2 vm_mmap.c *** vm_mmap.c 1999/05/10 17:09:25 1.86.2.2 --- vm_mmap.c 1999/06/15 07:44:24 *************** *** 1017,1022 **** --- 1017,1026 ---- if ((flags & (MAP_ANON|MAP_SHARED)) == 0) { docow = MAP_COPY_ON_WRITE | MAP_COPY_NEEDED; } + #ifdef VM_STACK + if (flags & MAP_STACK) + docow |= VM_MAP_STACK; + #endif #if defined(VM_PROT_READ_IS_EXEC) if (prot & VM_PROT_READ) *************** *** 1030,1041 **** *addr = pmap_addr_hint(object, *addr, size); } - #ifdef VM_STACK - if (flags & MAP_STACK) - rv = vm_map_stack (map, *addr, size, prot, - maxprot, docow); - else - #endif rv = vm_map_find(map, object, foff, addr, size, fitit, prot, maxprot, docow); --- 1034,1039 ---- --9amGYk9869ThD9tj-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 13:26:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cs.rice.edu (cs.rice.edu [128.42.1.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2488F15780 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 13:26:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alc@cs.rice.edu) Received: (from alc@localhost) by cs.rice.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) id PAA07078; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:25:54 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:25:54 -0500 From: Alan Cox To: Andrew Gordon Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Panic: Bad stack grow start/end in new stack entry [StarOffice] Message-ID: <19990615152554.C5893@cs.rice.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.5us Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just posted a patch that should fix this problem to the -STABLE mailing list. Please try it and let me know if you have any further problems. Alan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 13:48:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FD4C14F56 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 13:48:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA05027 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 13:50:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Linux compat [was Re: Linux not FreeBSD?] In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 15 Jun 1999 12:00:40 EDT." Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 13:50:22 -0700 Message-ID: <5023.929479822@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG People who desire more native apps for FreeBSD need to talk to the vendors in question, not wait for some mysterious 3rd party to do the convincing. Somebody mentioned sybase, for example, and I've gotten some interest from the Sybase folks in the past when we've discussed the matter, but it always comes down to one thing: Customers. They want to talk to potential customers who will be voting with their wallets for the product, not some OS vendor who's simply trying to argue that it would be A Good Thing for them to do it. This goes double for vendors who won't even talk to the FreeBSD.org folks but are always interested when a big customer comes walking around asking the same questions. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 13:55:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3111215655 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 13:55:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-1-18.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.132.18]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA02788; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 16:55:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id QAA00968; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 16:56:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 16:56:53 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Thierry Herbelot Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: burning a cd Message-ID: <19990615165653.A916@ipass.net> References: <19990612223456.B210@caamora.com.au> <199906121513.IAA25324@kusanagi.boing.com> <19990613172117.D1670@caamora.com.au> <3764AE53.4FB4A94A@telspace.alcatel.fr> <19990614181836.A19492@ipass.net> <37660EE7.FDC8F664@telspace.alcatel.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <37660EE7.FDC8F664@telspace.alcatel.fr>; from Thierry Herbelot on Tue, Jun 15, 1999 at 10:29:27AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thierry Herbelot: |Randall Hopper wrote: |> Thierry Herbelot: |> |This is just for the record (to get it archived) |> | |> |I found out that you need the "pass" device when you use cdrecord with |> |SCSI CD burners (this could be in pkg/DESCR ?) |> |> This seems a bit unclear to me. Do you mean this device file needs to |> exist? I know you don't need to pass it to cdrecord explicitly, so I'm |> assuming this is what you meant. | |No, you must add the "pass" driver in the kernel config file (along with |the host adapter - eg ncr0 on my machine - and scbus which is the bas |scsi bus driver) Didn't need to here, and cdrecord works fine. I added pass for my scanner so I could scan with SANE, but no pass for the ncr. Here's the relevent bits from my kernel config file: controller ncr0 controller scbus0 at ncr0 # Single bus device disk cd0 at scbus0 target 0 unit 0 # SCSI CD-ROM device sa0 at scbus0 target 4 unit 0 # SCSI tapes disk da0 at scbus0 target 5 unit 0 # da0 = ZIP Drive # uk0 is old; use CAM now #device uk0 at scbus0 target 6 unit 0 # uk0 = Scanner device pass0 at scbus0 target 6 unit 0 # CAM passthrough = Scanner Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 14:17:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from aeolus.conio.net (ci221559-a.grnvle1.sc.home.com [24.4.122.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2C3F3156BB for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:17:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sam@conio.net) Received: (qmail 69896 invoked by uid 1001); 15 Jun 1999 21:19:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 15 Jun 1999 21:19:47 -0000 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 17:19:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Sam Stephenson X-Sender: sam@aeolus To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: w.c patch for -CURRENT Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-140741642-929481587=:66181" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-140741642-929481587=:66181 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Here's my w.c patch for -CURRENT. 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Could that be the problem? Yes. w.c is different in current. At least one known bug has been fixed, which in 3.2-STABLE allows the LOGIN@ time to be partly overwritten. I use w.c from -current on all my 3.2-STABLE systems. Wish the -current version was backported to 3.2-STABLE. Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 14:31:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pop3-3.enteract.com (pop3-3.enteract.com [207.229.143.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CB7F415677 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:31:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dscheidt@enteract.com) Received: (qmail 68050 invoked from network); 15 Jun 1999 21:31:37 -0000 Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (dscheidt@207.229.143.40) by pop3-3.enteract.com with SMTP; 15 Jun 1999 21:31:37 -0000 Received: from localhost (dscheidt@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with SMTP id QAA91001; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 16:31:37 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dscheidt@enteract.com) X-Authentication-Warning: shell-1.enteract.com: dscheidt owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 16:31:36 -0500 (CDT) From: David Scheidt To: Sam Stephenson Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: w.c patch for -CURRENT In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Sam Stephenson wrote: > Here's my w.c patch for -CURRENT. Sorry about the confusion. > > --Sam Stephenson > sam@conio.net My machine, which is -CURRENT as of thursday, produces this bash-2.02$ /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/w/w 3:27PM up 5 days, 7:40, 16 users, load averages: 0.02, 0.02, 0.00 USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT dms v0 - Thu07AM 2:17 - dms p0 :0.0 12:32PM 2:17 - dms p1 :0.0 Thu07AM 2:17 - dms p2 :0.0 Thu07AM 2:17 - dms p3 :0.0 Thu09AM 2:17 - dms p4 :0.0 Thu04PM 2:17 - dms p5 - Mon02PM 2:17 - dms p6 :0.0 Fri01PM 2:17 - dms p7 :0.0 Mon10AM 2:17 - dms p8 :0.0 Mon11AM 2:17 - dms p9 :0.0 Mon11AM 2:17 - dms pa :0.0 7:41AM 2:17 - root pb :0.0 12:40PM 2:17 - jabba pc :0.0 12:53PM 2:17 - jabba1 pd :0.0 12:53PM 2:17 - dms pe :0.0 3:27PM 2:17 - I am updating to -CURRENT as of cvs-cur.5422, and will see what happens there. David scheidt > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 14:32: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7C5EB15729 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:31:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 15 Jun 99 22:31:51 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 22:31:50 +0100 From: David Malone To: Rich Burroughs Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: signal 6 Message-ID: <19990615223150.A13326@walton.maths.tcd.ie> References: <4.1.19990614225834.0646a880@granite.sentex.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Rich Burroughs on Tue, Jun 15, 1999 at 11:16:20AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 15, 1999 at 11:16:20AM -0700, Rich Burroughs wrote: > On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Mike Tancsa wrote: > > > Were you playing around with your limits by chance ? > > No :) Check for /etc/malloc.conf and the environment variable MALLOC_OPTIONS, I know the "X" flag for malloc makes ld core dump. David. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 14:44:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0227514E34 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:44:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from rainbow5.scientia.demon.co.uk ([192.168.1.2] ident=exim) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 10u0Ca-0009fB-00; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 21:53:00 +0100 (envelope-from ben@rainbow5.scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from rainbow5.scientia.demon.co.uk (ident=ben) by rainbow5.scientia.demon.co.uk with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 10u0CV-00027d-00; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 21:52:55 +0100 (envelope-from ben@rainbow5.scientia.demon.co.uk) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 21:52:55 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst To: kip@lyris.com Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: open files Message-ID: <19990615215254.A8122@rainbow5.scientia.demon.co.uk> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG kip@lyris.com wrote: > find . -name "*" | xargs grep "SYSCTL\." What's that backslash for? DES didn't tell you to put that in the regular expression. Quite why you are typing `find . -name "*"' rather than just `find .', is also unclear. > find . -name "*" | xargs grep "SYSCTL\.*maxfiles" Try, find . | xargs grep "SYSCTL.*maxfiles" (from /usr/src/sys of course) > don't find anything, just searching for SYSCTL ends up searching through > binaries. Check grep(1) for what the "-a" option does. -- Ben Smithurst | PGP: 0x99392F7D ben@scientia.demon.co.uk | key available from keyservers and | ben+pgp@scientia.demon.co.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 15:12:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from luna.lyris.net (luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74C2914D84 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:12:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kip@lyris.com) Received: from luna.shelby.com by luna.lyris.net (8.9.1b+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id PAA18801; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:05:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from (luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6]) by luna.shelby.com with SMTP (MailShield v1.50); Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:05:42 -0700 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:05:42 -0700 (PDT) From: X-Sender: kip@luna To: Ben Smithurst Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: open files In-Reply-To: <19990615215254.A8122@rainbow5.scientia.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-SMTP-HELO: luna X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: kip@lyris.com X-SMTP-RCPT-TO: ben@scientia.demon.co.uk,freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Check grep(1) for what the "-a" option does. is a rather flippant way of telling me: -a Don't search in binary files. find . | xargs grep -a "SYSCTL.*maxfiles" yields ./kern/kern_descrip.c:SYSCTL_INT(_kern, KERN_MAXFILESPERPROC, maxfilesperproc, ./kern/kern_descrip.c:SYSCTL_INT(_kern, KERN_MAXFILES, maxfiles, CTLFLAG_RW, &maxfiles, 0, ""); which is what I guess I want - 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DES didn't tell you to put that in the > regular expression. Quite why you are typing `find . -name "*"' rather > than just `find .', is also unclear. > > > find . -name "*" | xargs grep "SYSCTL\.*maxfiles" > > Try, > > find . | xargs grep "SYSCTL.*maxfiles" > > (from /usr/src/sys of course) > > > don't find anything, just searching for SYSCTL ends up searching through > > binaries. > -> Check grep(1) for what the "-a" option does. > > -- > Ben Smithurst | PGP: 0x99392F7D > ben@scientia.demon.co.uk | key available from keyservers and > | ben+pgp@scientia.demon.co.uk > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 15:19: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BFF7156E3 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:19:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id PAA02505; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:18:59 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda02503; Tue Jun 15 15:18:53 1999 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id PAA98479; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:18:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199906152218.PAA98479@passer.osg.gov.bc.ca> Received: from localhost.osg.gov.bc.ca(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "passer.osg.gov.bc.ca" via SMTP by localhost.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpdJ98472; Tue Jun 15 15:18:46 1999 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE X-Sender: cschuber To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux compat [was Re: Linux not FreeBSD?] In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 15 Jun 1999 13:50:22 PDT." <5023.929479822@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:18:46 -0700 From: Cy Schubert Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <5023.929479822@zippy.cdrom.com>, "Jordan K. Hubbard" writes: > People who desire more native apps for FreeBSD need to talk to the > vendors in question, not wait for some mysterious 3rd party to do the > convincing. Somebody mentioned sybase, for example, and I've gotten > some interest from the Sybase folks in the past when we've discussed > the matter, but it always comes down to one thing: Customers. They > want to talk to potential customers who will be voting with their > wallets for the product, not some OS vendor who's simply trying to > argue that it would be A Good Thing for them to do it. > > This goes double for vendors who won't even talk to the FreeBSD.org > folks but are always interested when a big customer comes walking > around asking the same questions. In short: Money talks. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Open Systems Group Internet: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca Province of BC "e**(i*pi)+1=0" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 15:46:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.aepnet.com (ns1.aepnet.com [208.129.247.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0357E14F49 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:46:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@ns1.aepnet.com) Received: from localhost (chris@localhost) by ns1.aepnet.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA20764; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:39:47 -0700 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:39:47 -0700 (MST) From: chris To: Ben Smithurst Cc: kip@lyris.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: open files In-Reply-To: <19990615215254.A8122@rainbow5.scientia.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG why? I was always fond of stuff like: vi `find /usr/src/sys -exec grep -l "SYSCTL.*maxfiles" \{\} \;` On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Ben Smithurst wrote: > kip@lyris.com wrote: > > > find . -name "*" | xargs grep "SYSCTL\." > > What's that backslash for? DES didn't tell you to put that in the > regular expression. Quite why you are typing `find . -name "*"' rather > than just `find .', is also unclear. > > > find . -name "*" | xargs grep "SYSCTL\.*maxfiles" > > Try, > > find . | xargs grep "SYSCTL.*maxfiles" > > (from /usr/src/sys of course) > > > don't find anything, just searching for SYSCTL ends up searching through > > binaries. > > Check grep(1) for what the "-a" option does. > > -- > Ben Smithurst | PGP: 0x99392F7D > ben@scientia.demon.co.uk | key available from keyservers and > | ben+pgp@scientia.demon.co.uk > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 16:14:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (whizzo.TransSys.COM [144.202.42.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68DCE14C32 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 16:14:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by whizzo.transsys.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA43123; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:14:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Message-Id: <199906152314.TAA43123@whizzo.transsys.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, kip@lyris.com From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: Re: open files References: In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:39:47 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:14:15 -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Stop torturing the guy: louie@whizzo[32] $ find /usr/src/sys -name '*.[hc]' -print | xargs grep "SYSCTL.*maxfiles" /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_descrip.c:SYSCTL_INT(_kern, KERN_MAXFILESPERPROC, maxfilesperproc, CTLFLAG_RW, /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_descrip.c:SYSCTL_INT(_kern, KERN_MAXFILES, maxfiles, CTLFLAG_RW, This from my 4.0-current system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 16:21:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from luna.lyris.net (luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B69B15449 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 16:21:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kip@lyris.com) Received: from luna.shelby.com by luna.lyris.net (8.9.1b+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id QAA19114; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 16:14:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from (luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6]) by luna.shelby.com with SMTP (MailShield v1.50); Tue, 15 Jun 1999 16:14:44 -0700 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 16:14:44 -0700 (PDT) From: X-Sender: kip@luna To: "Louis A. Mamakos" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: open files In-Reply-To: <199906152314.TAA43123@whizzo.transsys.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-SMTP-HELO: luna X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: kip@lyris.com X-SMTP-RCPT-TO: louie@TransSys.COM,freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks for a straight answer. -Kip On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Louis A. Mamakos wrote: > > Stop torturing the guy: > > louie@whizzo[32] $ find /usr/src/sys -name '*.[hc]' -print | xargs grep > "SYSCTL.*maxfiles" > /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_descrip.c:SYSCTL_INT(_kern, KERN_MAXFILESPERPROC, > maxfilesperproc, CTLFLAG_RW, > /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_descrip.c:SYSCTL_INT(_kern, KERN_MAXFILES, maxfiles, > CTLFLAG_RW, > > This from my 4.0-current system. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 16:22:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AEFD156E5; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 16:22:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-1-18.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.132.18]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA28211; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:22:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id TAA03806; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:24:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:24:06 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: stable@freebsd.org, emulation@freebsd.org Subject: vnconfig & FAT filesystem -- supported? Message-ID: <19990615192406.A3498@ipass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is it possible to mount a DOS FAT file system as a vnode disk? If so, I guess I don't know the trick: # vnconfig /dev/vn0 /data/doscmd_C_drive # mount -t msdos /dev/vn0a /mnt msdos: /dev/vn0a: Invalid argument BTW, doscmd_C_drive is a standard file on my FreeBSD UFS filesystem. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 16:56:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from debonair.pussycatwatch.com (debonair.pussycatwatch.com [206.251.95.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0331214BF6 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 16:56:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rich@paranoid.org) Received: by debonair.pussycatwatch.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 8EDBB46813; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 17:02:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by debonair.pussycatwatch.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78A3CC02A for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 17:02:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 17:02:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Rich Burroughs X-Sender: rich@debonair.pussycatwatch.com To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: signal 6 In-Reply-To: <19990615223150.A13326@walton.maths.tcd.ie> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, David Malone wrote: > Check for /etc/malloc.conf and the environment variable MALLOC_OPTIONS, > I know the "X" flag for malloc makes ld core dump. Ok. I'll check there. I think it is a memory issue, though. We slapped a little bit more of physical RAM into the box and now I make it quite a bit further into the kernel compile before I get the signal 6. I guess it's freaking out when it's low on physical memory. I'm not sure why, when there's a bunch of swap just begging to get used. The last time I tried, it was using 0 swap again. I'm going to add even more RAM in a couple of days, so we'll see what happens... Thanks for all of the suggestions. Rich To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 18:33:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from matrix.42.org (matrix.42.org [194.246.250.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44449151FE for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 18:33:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sec@42.org) Received: (from sec@localhost) by matrix.42.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id DAA17009 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org (sender ); Wed, 16 Jun 1999 03:33:09 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 03:33:08 +0200 From: Stefan `Sec` Zehl To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: / not properly unmounted ? Message-ID: <19990616033308.A16652@matrix.42.org> X-Current-Backlog: 276 messages Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i I-love-doing-this: really Accept-Languages: de, en X-URL: http://sec.42.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've remade the (stable) world a few days ago | FreeBSD matrix 2.2.7-STABLE FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE #0: Fri Oct 9 16:20:23 CEST 1998 sec@matrix:/usr/src/sys/compile/MATRIX i386 And since then frequently get that message on bootup: WARNING: / was not properly dismounted and a subsquent fsck happens which has no (visible) effect. I do use 'halt -p' to turn off my box. Filesystems on my box are: btl:~>mount /dev/wd0s1a on / (local, writes: sync 7 async 285) /dev/wd0s1f on /usr (local, soft-updates, writes: sync 384 async 10611) /dev/wd0s1e on /var (local, writes: sync 148 async 578) procfs on /proc (local) /dev/sd0s3a on /old (local, writes: sync 2 async 9) /dev/sd0s3f on /old/usr (local, writes: sync 2 async 1482) /dev/sd0s3e on /old/var (local, writes: sync 2 async 11) /dev/sd0s1 on /dos/c (local, read-only) /dev/sd1s1 on /dos/d (local, read-only) /dev/sd1s5 on /dos/e (local, read-only) ice:/usr/ports on /usr/ports ice:/usr/home on /nfshome ice:/usr/ftp/pub on /usr/pub and the (relevant?) part of my kernel-config is: btl:~>grep wd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/BTL config kernel root on wd0 controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 flags 0xa0ffa0ff disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 CU, Sec -- Do not meddle in the affairs of sysadmins, they are quick to anger and have no need for subtlety. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 18:43:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2382514C0A for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 18:43:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from rainbow5.scientia.demon.co.uk ([192.168.1.2] ident=exim) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 10u3G1-000BAv-00; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 01:08:45 +0100 (envelope-from ben@rainbow5.scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from rainbow5.scientia.demon.co.uk (ident=ben) by rainbow5.scientia.demon.co.uk with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 10u3Fx-0002Q8-00; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 01:08:41 +0100 (envelope-from ben@rainbow5.scientia.demon.co.uk) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 01:08:41 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst To: chris Cc: kip@lyris.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: open files Message-ID: <19990616010841.A9255@rainbow5.scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <19990615215254.A8122@rainbow5.scientia.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG chris wrote: > why? I was always fond of stuff like: > vi `find /usr/src/sys -exec grep -l "SYSCTL.*maxfiles" \{\} \;` That will fork a grep program for every file under /usr/src/sys, (about 4,500), which is not exactly the height of efficiency. xargs packs as many filenames as will fit and run grep on all of them. (I think the limit is 64k characters for all the arguments combined, which means only three grep processes are needed, if you do `cd /usr/src/sys; find . -stuff' only two greps are needed, but that gain really isn't worth it.) As a comparison, `find /usr/src/sys | xargs /bin/echo' took 0.3 seconds. `find /usr/src/sys -exec /bin/echo {} \;' took 22 seconds. that's a big enough saving for me. At least you got one thing right though: you didn't mention emacs at least. :-) -- Ben Smithurst | PGP: 0x99392F7D ben@scientia.demon.co.uk | key available from keyservers and | ben+pgp@scientia.demon.co.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 19:40: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19306153DF for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:40:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA65124; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:39:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Message-ID: <19990615193932.A65028@nuxi.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:39:32 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: uwe.laverenz@difi.de, jonathan michaels Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: burning a cd Reply-To: obrien@NUXI.com References: <19990614175436.B3802@caamora.com.au> <99061410533001.57175@edv1.difi.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <99061410533001.57175@edv1.difi.de>; from Uwe Laverenz on Mon, Jun 14, 1999 at 10:09:22AM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-BETA Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > If you install the cdrecord-port, you will find a newer version of mkisofs > included, which has to be installed manually (e.g. to /usr/local/bin ). No need. /usr/ports/sysutils/mkisofs *IS* version 1.12b5. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 19:47:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from set.spradley.tmi.net (set.spradley.tmi.net [207.170.107.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10DB8153DF; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:47:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tsprad@set.spradley.tmi.net) Received: from set.spradley.tmi.net (localhost.spradley.tmi.net [127.0.0.1]) by set.spradley.tmi.net (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA60379; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 21:46:49 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tsprad@set.spradley.tmi.net) Message-Id: <199906160246.VAA60379@set.spradley.tmi.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Randall Hopper Cc: stable@freebsd.org, emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vnconfig & FAT filesystem -- supported? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:24:06 EDT." <19990615192406.A3498@ipass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 21:46:48 -0500 From: Ted Spradley Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Is it possible to mount a DOS FAT file system as a vnode disk? > If so, I guess I don't know the trick: > > # vnconfig /dev/vn0 /data/doscmd_C_drive > # mount -t msdos /dev/vn0a /mnt > msdos: /dev/vn0a: Invalid argument > > BTW, doscmd_C_drive is a standard file on my FreeBSD UFS filesystem. I don't know anything about vnodes, but I've puzzled over that cryptic errmessage from mount before. It's telling you that you don't have a proper file system. You need the msdos equivalent of newfs ("format" in DOSspeak?) before the mount command. Beware, I'm only guessing. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 19:54:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE8E6153DF for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:54:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA65218; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:54:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Message-ID: <19990615195447.B65028@nuxi.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:54:47 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav , Holtor Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD's FTP Daemon Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <19990608104549.4750.rocketmail@web113.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Dag-Erling Smorgrav on Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 01:43:23PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-BETA Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Hello, I run a moderatly sized ISP and as an > > FTP daemon we use NcFTPD (www.ncftpd.com). > > I wouldn't, if I were you. I've never used ncftpd, but judging from > ncftp, the author has absolutely no concept of how to properly > implement the FTP protocol. I totally disagree. One of my 486DX2/66 boxes became a warez site over a year ago (w/out my knowledge). The load from all the FTPs taking place on this small box was incredible. 100 clients made the box totally dead. I tried NcFTPd just for fun and found I could still get a login and do things (admititly *very* slowly). I've been using NcFTPd since then, esp. to prevent downloads from /incoming, and have had zero problems with it. It is a very nice and configurable FTP daemon. I have also been using NcFTP since version 1.0, and maintain both the 1.x and 3.x ports. I haven't used a stock FTP client for over ?7? years. So what do you see as the problem with the author's knowledge of the FTP protocol?? -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 20:33:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B53B15466; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 20:33:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-1-150.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.132.150]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA10790; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:33:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id XAA09231; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:35:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:35:06 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Ted Spradley Cc: stable@freebsd.org, emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vnconfig & FAT filesystem -- supported? Message-ID: <19990615233506.A9168@ipass.net> References: <19990615192406.A3498@ipass.net> <199906160246.VAA60379@set.spradley.tmi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <199906160246.VAA60379@set.spradley.tmi.net>; from Ted Spradley on Tue, Jun 15, 1999 at 09:46:48PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ted Spradley: |> Is it possible to mount a DOS FAT file system as a vnode disk? |> If so, I guess I don't know the trick: |> |> # vnconfig /dev/vn0 /data/doscmd_C_drive |> # mount -t msdos /dev/vn0a /mnt |> msdos: /dev/vn0a: Invalid argument |> |> BTW, doscmd_C_drive is a standard file on my FreeBSD UFS filesystem. | |I don't know anything about vnodes, but I've puzzled over that cryptic |errmessage from mount before. It's telling you that you don't have a |proper file system. You need the msdos equivalent of newfs ("format" in |DOSspeak?) before the mount command. Well, actually doscmd_C_drive is a valid FAT file system. In fact, I dd'ed it off a real disk into a file, and doscmd runs happily with it. Question is, can the vnode system handle MSDOS/FAT? For now, I just copy the files inside doscmd from the DOS prompt by pointing its D: to a UFS disk: assign hard /wd4tmp/doscmd/doscmd_C_drive 65 255 63 assign D: -ro /c but it would be useful to be able to copy files into/out of the doscmd file system (doscmd_C_drive file) w/o firing up doscmd. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 21:10:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.bby.com.au (ns.bby.com.au [192.83.119.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94381154BB; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 21:09:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by fw.bby.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) id OAA00804; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:09:53 +1000 (EST) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au(192.168.71.20) via SMTP by fw.bby.com.au, id smtpd000802; Wed Jun 16 04:09:49 1999 Received: from lightning (lightning [192.168.71.20]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA12424; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:09:47 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199906160409.OAA12424@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 From: Gregory Bond To: Randall Hopper Cc: Ted Spradley , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vnconfig & FAT filesystem -- supported? In-reply-to: Your message of Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:35:06 -0400. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:09:47 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [Aside: the "vn" driver is not the same thing as the "vnode system" - the vn driver allows you to use a file (represented by a vnode in the kernel) as a block device. Vnodes are how the kernel represents files in a somewhat file-system-independent manner.] > Question is, can the vnode system handle MSDOS/FAT? Well, it certainly orta, as vn really knows only about blocks, not filesystems. And the "make release" process requires the use of the vn driver to build boot floppies. And it works for me: hellcat## vnconfig /dev/vn0a floppyimg hellcat## mount -t msdos /dev/vn0a /mnt hellcat## ls /mnt DATA.1* SETUP.EXE* _INST16.EX_* _SETUP.LIB* SETUP.BMP* SETUP.INS* _ISDEL.EXE* disk1.id* SETUP.DBG* SETUP.PKG* _SETUP.DLL* hellcat## umount /mnt hellcat## vnconfig -d /dev/vn0a hellcat## Check: do you have the vn device configured in your kernel? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 21:37:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au (adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.36.247]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 937EC1536A; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 21:37:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kkennawa@physics.adelaide.edu.au) Received: from bragg (bragg [129.127.36.34]) by adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8/UofA-1.5) with SMTP id OAA02821; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:07:06 +0930 (CST) Received: from localhost by bragg; (5.65/1.1.8.2/05Aug95-0227PM) id AA06843; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:08:12 +0930 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:08:12 +0930 (CST) From: Kris Kennaway X-Sender: kkennawa@bragg To: Randall Hopper Cc: stable@freebsd.org, emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vnconfig & FAT filesystem -- supported? In-Reply-To: <19990615192406.A3498@ipass.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Randall Hopper wrote: > Is it possible to mount a DOS FAT file system as a vnode disk? Yes > If so, I guess I don't know the trick: > > # vnconfig /dev/vn0 /data/doscmd_C_drive I don't have the manpage handy, but ISTR you want vnconfig -c. Failing that (and the manpage), check the -current archive from about a year ago when I asked the same question. Bruce gave me the right answer. Kris ----- "Never criticize anybody until you have walked a mile in their shoes, because by that time you will be a mile away and have their shoes." -- Unknown To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 23:17:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from luna.lyris.net (luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 953FC14F4E; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:17:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kip@lyris.com) Received: from luna.shelby.com by luna.lyris.net (8.9.1b+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id XAA20311; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:10:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from (luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6]) by luna.shelby.com with SMTP (MailShield v1.50); Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:10:44 -0700 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:10:44 -0700 (PDT) From: X-Sender: kip@luna To: "David O'Brien" Cc: Dag-Erling Smorgrav , Holtor , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD's FTP Daemon In-Reply-To: <19990615195447.B65028@nuxi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-SMTP-HELO: luna X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: kip@lyris.com X-SMTP-RCPT-TO: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG,des@flood.ping.uio.no,holtor@yahoo.com,freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Based on the documentation what leads you to believe that the author of NcFTP does not understand RFC 931? Were you just being inflammatory? -Kip On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, David O'Brien wrote: > > > Hello, I run a moderatly sized ISP and as an > > > FTP daemon we use NcFTPD (www.ncftpd.com). > > > > I wouldn't, if I were you. I've never used ncftpd, but judging from > > ncftp, the author has absolutely no concept of how to properly > > implement the FTP protocol. > > I totally disagree. One of my 486DX2/66 boxes became a warez site over > a year ago (w/out my knowledge). The load from all the FTPs taking place > on this small box was incredible. 100 clients made the box totally > dead. I tried NcFTPd just for fun and found I could still get a login > and do things (admititly *very* slowly). I've been using NcFTPd since > then, esp. to prevent downloads from /incoming, and have had zero > problems with it. It is a very nice and configurable FTP daemon. > > I have also been using NcFTP since version 1.0, and maintain both the 1.x > and 3.x ports. I haven't used a stock FTP client for over ?7? years. So > what do you see as the problem with the author's knowledge of the FTP > protocol?? > > -- > -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 23:42:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix (phoenix.aye.net [206.185.8.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5CC6E150DA for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:42:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from barrett@phoenix.aye.net) Received: (qmail 12807 invoked by uid 1000); 16 Jun 1999 06:41:56 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Jun 1999 06:41:56 -0000 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 02:41:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Barrett Richardson To: Randall Hopper Cc: stable@freebsd.org, emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vnconfig & FAT filesystem -- supported? In-Reply-To: <19990615192406.A3498@ipass.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Randall Hopper wrote: > Is it possible to mount a DOS FAT file system as a vnode disk? > If so, I guess I don't know the trick: > > # vnconfig /dev/vn0 /data/doscmd_C_drive ^^^^^^^^ s/vn0/vn0a Was it actually vn0 you used in the vnconfig command or vn0a? Doesn't hurt to ask. > # mount -t msdos /dev/vn0a /mnt > msdos: /dev/vn0a: Invalid argument > > BTW, doscmd_C_drive is a standard file on my FreeBSD UFS filesystem. > > Randall > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 15 23:50:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au (adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.36.247]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FCFE150DA for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:50:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kkennawa@physics.adelaide.edu.au) Received: from bragg (bragg [129.127.36.34]) by adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8/UofA-1.5) with SMTP id QAA03723; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 16:20:19 +0930 (CST) Received: from localhost by bragg; (5.65/1.1.8.2/05Aug95-0227PM) id AA05069; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 16:21:30 +0930 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 16:21:27 +0930 (CST) From: Kris Kennaway X-Sender: kkennawa@bragg To: Paulo Fragoso Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PPPD 2.3.8 in stable? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Paulo Fragoso wrote: > Are there any plans to include pppd-2.3.8 in FreeBSD stable? I was thinking of looking at this. I mostly got 2.3.7 integrated locally, but then got sidetracked and haven't looked at it since. 2.3.8 shouldn't be much different. I'll send you the patches when they're ready to be tested.. > If yes, is it possible work fine with PAM? I'm having some problems with > 3.2-RELEASE to make work fine with PAM. I don't know about this - I don't have any experience with PAM. Kris > Paulo Fragoso. > > ------ > " ... Overall we've found FreeBSD to excel in performace, stability, > technical support, and of course price. Two years after discovering > FreeBSD, we have yet to find a reason why we switch to anything else" > -David Filo, Yahoo! ----- "Never criticize anybody until you have walked a mile in their shoes, because by that time you will be a mile away and have their shoes." -- Unknown To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 16 0:12:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from max.difi.de (router.difi.de [194.231.78.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A546153DB for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 00:12:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from uwe.laverenz@difi.de) Received: from edv1.difi.de (edv1.difi.de [192.168.1.54]) by max.difi.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA02998 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:12:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uwe.laverenz@difi.de) From: Uwe Laverenz Reply-To: uwe.laverenz@difi.de Organization: DIFI Dierk Filmer GmbH To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: burning a cd Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:09:56 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.21] Content-Type: text/plain References: <19990615193932.A65028@nuxi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <99061609125400.37300@edv1.difi.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, > > If you install the cdrecord-port, you will find a newer version of mkisofs > > included, which has to be installed manually (e.g. to /usr/local/bin ). > > No need. /usr/ports/sysutils/mkisofs *IS* version 1.12b5. Oh, sorry. The last time I checked the port, it was an outdated version. Thanks! Uwe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 16 0:33:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F8EC14E37 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 00:33:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA76695; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:33:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: kip@lyris.com Cc: Dag-Erling Smorgrav , chad@DCFinc.com, nick@kolia.north.gencon.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: open files References: From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 16 Jun 1999 09:33:25 +0200 In-Reply-To: kip@lyris.com's message of "Tue, 15 Jun 1999 11:09:55 -0700 (PDT)" Message-ID: Lines: 15 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG kip@lyris.com writes: > find . -name "*" | xargs grep "SYSCTL\." > and > find . -name "*" | xargs grep "SYSCTL\.*maxfiles" > > don't find anything, just searching for SYSCTL ends up searching through > binaries. Read 'man re_format' and understand why you should have typed the regexp exactly as I showed you instead of going off on a whim and adding a backslash. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 16 0:41:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 096CE14E37; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 00:41:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA76888; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:41:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: kip@lyris.com Cc: "David O'Brien" , Dag-Erling Smorgrav , Holtor , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD's FTP Daemon References: From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 16 Jun 1999 09:41:13 +0200 In-Reply-To: kip@lyris.com's message of "Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:10:44 -0700 (PDT)" Message-ID: Lines: 13 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG kip@lyris.com writes: > Based on the documentation what leads you to believe that the author of > NcFTP does not understand RFC 931? Were you just being inflammatory? RFC931? What does that have to do with anything? As for the man page, read it yourself and make up your own mind. If the author had read RFC959, he wouldn't have to invent his own vocabulary as he went along. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 16 0:44: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D08B414E37; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 00:44:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA76952; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:44:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Dag-Erling Smorgrav , Holtor , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD's FTP Daemon References: <19990608104549.4750.rocketmail@web113.yahoomail.com> <19990615195447.B65028@nuxi.com> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 16 Jun 1999 09:44:02 +0200 In-Reply-To: "David O'Brien"'s message of "Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:54:47 -0700" Message-ID: Lines: 14 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "David O'Brien" writes: > I totally disagree. One of my 486DX2/66 boxes became a warez site over > a year ago (w/out my knowledge). The load from all the FTPs taking place > on this small box was incredible. 100 clients made the box totally > dead. I tried NcFTPd just for fun and found I could still get a login > and do things (admititly *very* slowly). Did you try stock ftpd compiled with INTERNAL_LS? Did you run both FTP daemons under similar circumstances (both standalone, or both through inetd)? Can you document that they were subjected to equal load? DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 16 0:54:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailgrd.orion.no (postkontor.orion.no [194.143.1.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A447915171 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 00:54:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from raymond@orion.no) Received: from postkontor.orion.no (unverified [62.92.20.132]) by mailgrd.orion.no (Integralis SMTPRS 2.04) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:49:31 +0200 Received: from foobar.orion.no by postkontor.orion.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1460.8) id MRVC64GH; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:49:36 +0200 X-Mailer: 21.2 "Clio" XEmacs Lucid (beta12) (via feedmail 8 I); VM 6.71 under 21.2 "Clio" XEmacs Lucid (beta12) From: "Raymond Wiker" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <14183.22268.334158.190388@foobar.orion.no> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:49:16 +0200 (CEST) To: Mike Smith Cc: "Raymond Wiker" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux not FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <199906151555.IAA03310@dingo.cdrom.com> References: <14182.17917.921115.728733@foobar.orion.no> <199906151555.IAA03310@dingo.cdrom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Smith writes: > > > > Not *all* applications run under the Linux emulation. Two > > notable exceptions are the "free" versions of Allegro Common Lisp and > > Harlequin Lispworks. This is (almost) sufficient reason for me to > > install Linux on one of my machines... > > > > Is there a mailing list/forum for discussing the Linux > > emulation under FreeBSD? > > You should look at the FreeBSD website, where it would take you only a > few seconds to discover the emulation@freebsd.org address. It's actually freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org }-). I've subscribed to it now, and I'll take another look at ACL (and propbably also Harlequin Lispworks). > We have actually in the past had success running ACL under FreeBSD; it > ought to work. Noted, thanks. //Raymond. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 16 2:16:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alice.gba.oz.au (gba-254.tmx.com.au [203.9.155.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7808E15616 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 02:16:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gjb-freebsd@gba.oz.au) Received: (qmail 20727 invoked by uid 1001); 16 Jun 1999 02:20:44 -0000 Message-ID: <19990616022044.20726.qmail@alice.gba.oz.au> X-Posted-By: GBA-Post 1.03 20-Sep-1998 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 5A91 6942 8CEA 9DAB B95B C249 1CE1 493B 2B5A CE30 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 12:20:43 +1000 From: Greg Black To: "Matt White" Cc: krentel@dreamscape.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Live file system CD on 3.2-R? References: In-reply-to: of Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:07:24 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > P.S. Would it be possible to put a few key ports on /usr/local on the > > live filesystem? A decent shell (bash, tcsh, pdksh) would be nice. > > I'd like to second that request. Having bash available along with sh > would be handy. Why? I'm a committed bash user, but I've never seen a problem with the distributed /bin/sh for use in these cases. -- Greg Black -- or Fight censorship in Australia: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 16 4:59:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B537014EE2 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 04:59:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA82641; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 13:58:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: Thomas Gellekum Cc: Raymond Wiker , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux not FreeBSD? References: <025d01beb725$37acd860$380051c2@qmpgmc.ac.uk> <14182.17917.921115.728733@foobar.orion.no> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 16 Jun 1999 13:58:39 +0200 In-Reply-To: Thomas Gellekum's message of "15 Jun 1999 15:08:15 +0200" Message-ID: Lines: 14 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thomas Gellekum writes: > Raymond Wiker writes: > > Not *all* applications run under the Linux emulation. Two > > notable exceptions are the "free" versions of Allegro Common Lisp and > > Harlequin Lispworks. This is (almost) sufficient reason for me to > > install Linux on one of my machines... > I thought the emulation has been fixed for ACL some time last fall. This is academic, since Franz is on the verge of releasing a native FreeBSD version of ACL. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 16 5: 6:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03DE4152D4 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 05:06:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) id OAA82812; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:06:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux compat [was Re: Linux not FreeBSD?] References: <5023.929479822@zippy.cdrom.com> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 16 Jun 1999 14:06:04 +0200 In-Reply-To: "Jordan K. Hubbard"'s message of "Tue, 15 Jun 1999 13:50:22 -0700" Message-ID: Lines: 16 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Jordan K. Hubbard" writes: > People who desire more native apps for FreeBSD need to talk to the > vendors in question, not wait for some mysterious 3rd party to do the > convincing. Somebody mentioned sybase, for example, and I've gotten > some interest from the Sybase folks in the past when we've discussed > the matter, but it always comes down to one thing: Customers. They > want to talk to potential customers who will be voting with their > wallets for the product, not some OS vendor who's simply trying to > argue that it would be A Good Thing for them to do it. Is this the same Sybase that is *giving away* the Linux version of their RDBMS? Sheesh. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 16 5: 9: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 871CE1529A for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 05:09:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) id OAA82877; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:08:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: Alexander Langer Cc: "Michael C. Vergallen" , gkshenaut@ucdavis.edu, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux not FreeBSD? References: <199906151422.HAA05538@deal1.bogs.org> <19990615175138.A2300@cichlids.cichlids.com> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 16 Jun 1999 14:08:49 +0200 In-Reply-To: Alexander Langer's message of "Tue, 15 Jun 1999 17:51:38 +0200" Message-ID: Lines: 12 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Alexander Langer writes: > Additionally, writing pseudo-hacker-applications, as Winnuke or such > a thing, that exploits a OS, that is only used by "few" people just > won´t happen (almost), but will happen if many people use it (if you > know/understand, what I try to express). What you are trying to express is 'security through obscurity', which is a preposterous concept. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 16 5:11:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E33B01529A for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 05:11:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) id OAA82942; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:11:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: "Raymond Wiker" Cc: Mike Smith , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux not FreeBSD? References: <14182.17917.921115.728733@foobar.orion.no> <199906151555.IAA03310@dingo.cdrom.com> <14183.22268.334158.190388@foobar.orion.no> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 16 Jun 1999 14:11:21 +0200 In-Reply-To: "Raymond Wiker"'s message of "Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:49:16 +0200 (CEST)" Message-ID: Lines: 15 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Raymond Wiker" writes: > Mike Smith writes: > > You should look at the FreeBSD website, where it would take you only a > > few seconds to discover the emulation@freebsd.org address. > > It's actually freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org }-). des@hub ~% grep emulation /etc/aliases # freebsd-emulation emulation: freebsd-emulation [...] DES (I can pick smaller nits that you, nyah nyah!) -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 16 5:14: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2642D1529A; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 05:14:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) id OAA83009; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:14:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: "Sam Stephenson" Cc: , Subject: Re: 'w' patch References: From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 16 Jun 1999 14:14:01 +0200 In-Reply-To: "Sam Stephenson"'s message of "Tue, 15 Jun 1999 13:38:29 -0400" Message-ID: Lines: 10 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Sam Stephenson" writes: > Please have a look at this patch, and consider implementing it into the > source tree. Please submit a PR ('send-pr') for this with a unidiff ('diff -u') rather than the old-style diff you posted here. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 16 5:15:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E71014FE7 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 05:15:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) id OAA83086; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:15:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: Cc: Ben Smithurst , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: open files References: From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 16 Jun 1999 14:15:51 +0200 In-Reply-To: 's message of "Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:05:42 -0700 (PDT)" Message-ID: Lines: 11 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG writes: > > Check grep(1) for what the "-a" option does. > is a rather flippant way of telling me: > -a Don't search in binary files. It's a polite way of telling you to read the f* manual instead of expecting us to handhold you through everything. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 16 5:18:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mirage.nlink.com.br (mirage.nlink.com.br [200.249.195.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86EE314E20 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 05:18:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paulo@nlink.com.br) Received: from localhost (paulo@localhost) by mirage.nlink.com.br (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA01751; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:16:41 -0300 (EST) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:16:41 -0300 (EST) From: Paulo Fragoso To: Kris Kennaway Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PPPD 2.3.8 in stable? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1442992892-929535401=:28826" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-1442992892-929535401=:28826 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 16 Jun 1999, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Paulo Fragoso wrote: > > > Are there any plans to include pppd-2.3.8 in FreeBSD stable? > > I was thinking of looking at this. I mostly got 2.3.7 integrated locally, but > then got sidetracked and haven't looked at it since. 2.3.8 shouldn't be much > different. > > I'll send you the patches when they're ready to be tested.. Thanks ;-) > > > If yes, is it possible work fine with PAM? I'm having some problems with > > 3.2-RELEASE to make work fine with PAM. > > I don't know about this - I don't have any experience with PAM. I'm using PAM now with pppd-2.3.5. I would like make a sugestion: I think it should exist one more compile flags like USE_PAM_LOG instead USE_PAM only. When someone recompile pppd using this flags, pppd logs in utmp, like pppd without PAM. I think that it's beter solution than NIS and work similar. This way access server logs normaly and gets authentication via radius on another machine. I made modifications in auth.c changing a few places to #ifdef, #else, #endif, it's work fine now. (it's in attachment) Is this a good idea? Paulo. ------ " ... Overall we've found FreeBSD to excel in performace, stability, technical support, and of course price. Two years after discovering FreeBSD, we have yet to find a reason why we switch to anything else" -David Filo, Yahoo! --0-1442992892-929535401=:28826 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name="tmp.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: ZGlmZiAtdSAvdXNyL3NyYy91c3Iuc2Jpbi9wcHBkL2F1dGguYyBhdXRoLmMg DQoNCi0tLSAvdXNyL3NyYy91c3Iuc2Jpbi9wcHBkL2F1dGguYwlTYXQgSnVu IDIwIDE1OjAyOjA4IDE5OTgNCisrKyBhdXRoLmMJVHVlIEp1biAxNSAxMDox NDozMSAxOTk5DQpAQCAtODM5LDYgKzgzOSw5IEBADQogICAgIGludCAqbXNn bGVuOw0KIHsNCiANCisgICAgY2hhciAqdHR5Ow0KKyAgICBzdHJ1Y3QgdXRt cCB1dG1wOw0KKw0KICNpZmRlZiBVU0VfUEFNDQogDQogICAgIHN0cnVjdCBw YW1fY29udiBwYW1fY29udmVyc2F0aW9uOw0KQEAgLTg2Nyw3ICs4NzAsNiBA QA0KICAqLw0KICAgICBwYW1fZXJyb3IgPSBwYW1fYXV0aGVudGljYXRlIChw YW1oLCBQQU1fU0lMRU5UKTsNCiAgICAgaWYgKHBhbV9lcnJvciA9PSBQQU1f U1VDQ0VTUykgew0KLSAgICAgICAgcGFtX2Vycm9yID0gcGFtX2FjY3RfbWdt dCAocGFtaCwgUEFNX1NJTEVOVCk7DQogDQogCS8qIHN0YXJ0IGEgc2Vzc2lv biBmb3IgdGhpcyB1c2VyLiBTZXNzaW9uIGNsb3NlZCB3aGVuIGxpbmsgZW5k cy4gKi8NCiAJaWYgKHBhbV9lcnJvciA9PSBQQU1fU1VDQ0VTUykNCkBAIC04 OTEsOSArODkzLDcgQEANCiAjZWxzZSAvKiAjaWZkZWYgVVNFX1BBTSAqLw0K IA0KICAgICBzdHJ1Y3QgcGFzc3dkICpwdzsNCi0gICAgc3RydWN0IHV0bXAg dXRtcDsNCiAgICAgc3RydWN0IHRpbWV2YWwgdHA7DQotICAgIGNoYXIgKnR0 eTsNCiANCiAjaWZkZWYgSEFTX1NIQURPVw0KICAgICBzdHJ1Y3Qgc3B3ZCAq c3B3ZDsNCkBAIC05NTYsNiArOTU2LDggQEANCiAJfQ0KICAgICB9DQogDQor I2VuZGlmIC8qICNpZmRlZiBVU0VfUEFNICovDQorDQogICAgIC8qIFRoZXNl IGZ1bmN0aW9ucyBhcmUgbm90IGVuYWJsZWQgZm9yIFBBTS4gVGhlIHJlYXNv biBmb3IgdGhpcyBpcyB0aGF0ICovDQogICAgIC8qIHRoZXJlIGlzIG5vdCBu ZWNlc3NhcmlseSBhICJwYXNzd2QiIGVudHJ5IGZvciB0aGlzIHVzZXIuIFRo YXQgaXMgICAgICovDQogICAgIC8qIHJlYWwgcHVycG9zZSBvZiAnUEFNJyAt LSB0byB2aXJ0dWFsaXplIHRoZSBhY2NvdW50IGRhdGEgZnJvbSB0aGUgICAg ICovDQpAQCAtOTYzLDYgKzk2NSw3IEBADQogICAgIC8qIHRoZSAnc2Vzc2lv bicgaG9vay4gICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAg ICAgICAgICAgICAgICovDQogDQogICAgIC8qIExvZyBpbiB3dG1wIGFuZCB1 dG1wIHVzaW5nIGxvZ2luKCkgKi8NCisgICAgLyogTk9XIElOIFBBTSBUT08g Ki8NCiANCiAgICAgdHR5ID0gZGV2bmFtOw0KICAgICBpZiAoc3RybmNtcCh0 dHksICIvZGV2LyIsIDUpID09IDApDQpAQCAtOTcxLDcgKzk3NCw3IEBADQog ICAgIGlmIChsb2dvdXQodHR5KSkJCS8qIEFscmVhZHkgZW50ZXJlZCAoYnkg bG9naW4/KSAqLw0KICAgICAgICAgbG9nd3RtcCh0dHksICIiLCAiIik7DQog DQotI2lmIGRlZmluZWQoX1BBVEhfTEFTVExPRykNCisjaWYgZGVmaW5lZChf UEFUSF9MQVNUTE9HKSAmJiAhZGVmaW5lZChVU0VfUEFNKQ0KICAgICB7DQog CSAgICBzdHJ1Y3QgbGFzdGxvZyBsbDsNCiAJICAgIGludCBmZDsNCkBAIC05 ODcsNiArOTkwLDcgQEANCiAgICAgfQ0KICNlbmRpZg0KIA0KKw0KICAgICBt ZW1zZXQoKHZvaWQgKikmdXRtcCwgMCwgc2l6ZW9mKHV0bXApKTsNCiAgICAg KHZvaWQpdGltZSgmdXRtcC51dF90aW1lKTsNCiAgICAgKHZvaWQpc3RybmNw eSh1dG1wLnV0X25hbWUsIHVzZXIsIHNpemVvZih1dG1wLnV0X25hbWUpKTsN CkBAIC05OTQsNyArOTk4LDYgQEANCiAgICAgKHZvaWQpc3RybmNweSh1dG1w LnV0X2xpbmUsIHR0eSwgc2l6ZW9mKHV0bXAudXRfbGluZSkpOw0KICAgICBs b2dpbigmdXRtcCk7CQkvKiBUaGlzIGxvZ3MgdXMgaW4gd3RtcCB0b28gKi8N CiANCi0jZW5kaWYgLyogI2lmZGVmIFVTRV9QQU0gKi8NCiANCiAgICAgc3lz bG9nKExPR19JTkZPLCAidXNlciAlcyBsb2dnZWQgaW4iLCB1c2VyKTsNCiAg ICAgbG9nZ2VkX2luID0gVFJVRTsNCkBAIC0xMDA4LDYgKzEwMTEsNyBAQA0K IHN0YXRpYyB2b2lkDQogcGxvZ291dCgpDQogew0KKyAgICBjaGFyICp0dHk7 DQogI2lmZGVmIFVTRV9QQU0NCiAgICAgc3RydWN0IHBhbV9jb252IHBhbV9j b252ZXJzYXRpb247DQogICAgIHBhbV9oYW5kbGVfdCAqcGFtaDsNCkBAIC0x MDI3LDE1ICsxMDMxLDEzIEBADQogCSh2b2lkKSBwYW1fZW5kIChwYW1oLCBQ QU1fU1VDQ0VTUyk7DQogICAgIH0NCiANCi0jZWxzZQ0KLSAgICBjaGFyICp0 dHk7DQorI2VuZGlmDQogDQogICAgIHR0eSA9IGRldm5hbTsNCiAgICAgaWYg KHN0cm5jbXAodHR5LCAiL2Rldi8iLCA1KSA9PSAwKQ0KIAl0dHkgKz0gNTsN CiAgICAgbG9nd3RtcCh0dHksICIiLCAiIik7CQkvKiBXaXBlIG91dCB3dG1w IGxvZ291dCBlbnRyeSAqLw0KICAgICBsb2dvdXQodHR5KTsJCQkvKiBXaXBl IG91dCB1dG1wICovDQotI2VuZGlmDQogDQogICAgIGxvZ2dlZF9pbiA9IEZB TFNFOw0KIH0NCg== --0-1442992892-929535401=:28826-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 16 5:20:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E45F414E20 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 05:20:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) id OAA83189; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:20:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: chris Cc: Ben Smithurst , kip@lyris.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: open files References: From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 16 Jun 1999 14:20:24 +0200 In-Reply-To: chris's message of "Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:39:47 -0700 (MST)" Message-ID: Lines: 21 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG chris writes: > why? I was always fond of stuff like: > vi `find /usr/src/sys -exec grep -l "SYSCTL.*maxfiles" \{\} \;` ...which forks a separate grep process for every single file in the source tree (somewhere between three and four thousand files, depending on whether you use CVS or CVSup), and only shows the names of the files where matches are found (if you remove the -l, it only shows the matches without the file names). Neither does it allow you to fine-tune the set of files to grep, like this: # cd /usr/src/sys # find . -type f | grep -v /CVS/ | xargs grep 'SYSCTL.*maxfiles' Yes, I know about the -name predicate, but it's not very flexible since it's a glob pattern, not a regexp, and only applies to the file name itself, not to its path. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 16 5:23:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA68515377; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 05:23:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) id OAA83267; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:23:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: Barrett Richardson Cc: Randall Hopper , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vnconfig & FAT filesystem -- supported? References: From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 16 Jun 1999 14:23:27 +0200 In-Reply-To: Barrett Richardson's message of "Wed, 16 Jun 1999 02:41:56 -0400 (EDT)" Message-ID: Lines: 14 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Barrett Richardson writes: > On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Randall Hopper wrote: > > Is it possible to mount a DOS FAT file system as a vnode disk? > > If so, I guess I don't know the trick: > > > > # vnconfig /dev/vn0 /data/doscmd_C_drive > ^^^^^^^^ > s/vn0/vn0a No, vn0 is correct. He's missing a -c though. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 16 5:25:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C80BB15377 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 05:25:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) id OAA83303; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:24:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: Stefan `Sec` Zehl Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: / not properly unmounted ? References: <19990616033308.A16652@matrix.42.org> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 16 Jun 1999 14:24:44 +0200 In-Reply-To: Stefan `Sec` Zehl's message of "Wed, 16 Jun 1999 03:33:08 +0200" Message-ID: Lines: 13 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Stefan `Sec` Zehl writes: > WARNING: / was not properly dismounted > and a subsquent fsck happens which has no (visible) effect. > > I do use 'halt -p' to turn off my box. Either don't use 'halt -p', or disable write caching on your disk drives - or hack the kernel to pause for five seconds or something before switching off the power. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 16 5:26: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C04215377; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 05:26:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) id OAA83336; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:26:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: Randall Hopper Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vnconfig & FAT filesystem -- supported? References: <19990615192406.A3498@ipass.net> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 16 Jun 1999 14:26:01 +0200 In-Reply-To: Randall Hopper's message of "Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:24:06 -0400" Message-ID: Lines: 13 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Randall Hopper writes: > Is it possible to mount a DOS FAT file system as a vnode disk? > If so, I guess I don't know the trick: > > # vnconfig /dev/vn0 /data/doscmd_C_drive > # mount -t msdos /dev/vn0a /mnt > msdos: /dev/vn0a: Invalid argument Does that file have a partition table? DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 16 5:29:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from matrix.42.org (matrix.42.org [194.246.250.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7647154CA for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 05:29:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sec@42.org) Received: (from sec@localhost) by matrix.42.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id OAA24615 (sender ); Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:29:38 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:29:38 +0200 From: Stefan `Sec` Zehl To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: / not properly unmounted ? Message-ID: <19990616142937.A24601@matrix.42.org> X-Current-Backlog: 288 messages References: <19990616033308.A16652@matrix.42.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: ; from Dag-Erling Smorgrav on Wed, Jun 16, 1999 at 02:24:44PM +0200 I-love-doing-this: really Accept-Languages: de, en X-URL: http://sec.42.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jun 16, 1999 at 02:24:44PM +0200, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > Stefan `Sec` Zehl writes: > > WARNING: / was not properly dismounted > > and a subsquent fsck happens which has no (visible) effect. > > > > I do use 'halt -p' to turn off my box. > > Either don't use 'halt -p', or disable write caching on your disk > drives - or hack the kernel to pause for five seconds or something > before switching off the power. So you mean "halt -p" is supposed to not unmount things cleanly ? If so, what is the sanctioned way of halt&powerdown a box, or for that matter why didn't it happen with earlier make world's ? CU, Sec -- Black holes are where GOD is dividing by zero To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 16 5:39:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from angel.double-barrel.be (mail.double-barrel.be [194.7.102.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33441150B7 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 05:39:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mvergall@double-barrel.be) Received: from ws3.double-barrel.be (ws3.double-barrel.be [194.7.102.30]) by angel.double-barrel.be (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA27815; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:38:46 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (mvergall@localhost) by ws3.double-barrel.be (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id OAA07342; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:38:40 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: ws3.double-barrel.be: mvergall owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:38:40 +0200 (MEST) From: "Michael C. Vergallen" To: Stefan `Sec` Zehl Cc: Dag-Erling Smorgrav , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: / not properly unmounted ? In-Reply-To: <19990616142937.A24601@matrix.42.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Have a look at the shutdown man page. This should answer your question. Michael --- Michael C. Vergallen A.k.A. Mad Mike, Sportstraat 28 http://www.double-barrel.be/mvergall/ B 9000 Gent ftp://ftp.double-barrel.be/pub/linux/ Belgium tel : 32-9-2227764 Fax : 32-9-2224976 On Wed, 16 Jun 1999, Stefan `Sec` Zehl wrote: > On Wed, Jun 16, 1999 at 02:24:44PM +0200, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > > Stefan `Sec` Zehl writes: > > > WARNING: / was not properly dismounted > > > and a subsquent fsck happens which has no (visible) effect. > > > > > > I do use 'halt -p' to turn off my box. > > > > Either don't use 'halt -p', or disable write caching on your disk > > drives - or hack the kernel to pause for five seconds or something > > before switching off the power. > > So you mean "halt -p" is supposed to not unmount things cleanly ? > If so, what is the sanctioned way of halt&powerdown a box, or for that > matter why didn't it happen with earlier make world's ? > > CU, > Sec > -- > Black holes are where GOD is dividing by zero > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 16 5:40: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CEF4150B7 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 05:40:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) id OAA83685; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:40:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: Stefan `Sec` Zehl Cc: Dag-Erling Smorgrav , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: / not properly unmounted ? References: <19990616033308.A16652@matrix.42.org> <19990616142937.A24601@matrix.42.org> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 16 Jun 1999 14:40:03 +0200 In-Reply-To: Stefan `Sec` Zehl's message of "Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:29:38 +0200" Message-ID: Lines: 20 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Stefan `Sec` Zehl writes: > On Wed, Jun 16, 1999 at 02:24:44PM +0200, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > > Either don't use 'halt -p', or disable write caching on your disk > > drives - or hack the kernel to pause for five seconds or something > > before switching off the power. > So you mean "halt -p" is supposed to not unmount things cleanly ? It *is* supposed to unmount things cleanly, and it does. But your disk is lying about write operations having completed when in fact they're sitting in the disk's cache. Then the APM BIOS powers the machine off before the disk has had time to flush its cache. > If so, what is the sanctioned way of halt&powerdown a box, or for that > matter why didn't it happen with earlier make world's ? Because 'halt -p' didn't use to work at all? DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 16 7: 4:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gate.nitek.ru (nitek.east.ru [195.170.63.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9801514DFC for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 07:04:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from igor@nitek.ru) Received: from igor (igor.nitek.ru [192.168.1.10]) by gate.nitek.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA23877 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 18:04:29 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: <199906161404.SAA23877@gate.nitek.ru> From: "Igor Sysoev" To: Subject: Re: PPPD 2.3.8 in stable? Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 18:04:27 +0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Are there any plans to include pppd-2.3.8 in FreeBSD stable? > > If yes, is it possible work fine with PAM? I'm having some problems with > 3.2-RELEASE to make work fine with PAM. > > This version of pppd have one very good feature: > > /etc/ppp/auth-up As far as I know this feature is in 2.3.5 that come with FreeBSD 2.2.7-3.2 With best regards, Igor Sysoev To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 16 7:14:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mirage.nlink.com.br (mirage.nlink.com.br [200.249.195.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EBF714F85 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 07:14:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paulo@nlink.com.br) Received: from localhost (paulo@localhost) by mirage.nlink.com.br (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA08630; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:13:32 -0300 (EST) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:13:31 -0300 (EST) From: Paulo Fragoso To: Igor Sysoev Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPPD 2.3.8 in stable? In-Reply-To: <199906161404.SAA23877@gate.nitek.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, On Wed, 16 Jun 1999, Igor Sysoev wrote: > > Are there any plans to include pppd-2.3.8 in FreeBSD stable? > > > > If yes, is it possible work fine with PAM? I'm having some problems with > > 3.2-RELEASE to make work fine with PAM. > > > > This version of pppd have one very good feature: > > > > /etc/ppp/auth-up > > As far as I know this feature is in 2.3.5 that come > with FreeBSD 2.2.7-3.2 Humm, I didn't notice :-) thanks. > > With best regards, > Igor Sysoev > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > ------ " ... Overall we've found FreeBSD to excel in performace, stability, technical support, and of course price. Two years after discovering FreeBSD, we have yet to find a reason why we switch to anything else" -David Filo, Yahoo! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 16 7:56:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dns.tomail.com.tw (dns.tomail.com.tw [203.70.70.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 985561523D for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 07:56:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from silver@tomail.com.tw) Received: (qmail 31393 invoked from network); 16 Jun 1999 14:57:20 -0000 Received: from eva.pchome.com.tw (HELO tomail.com.tw) (203.70.70.2) by dns.tomail.com.tw with SMTP; 16 Jun 1999 14:57:20 -0000 Message-ID: <3767BB54.3C85ADEF@tomail.com.tw> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 22:57:24 +0800 From: Silver CHEN X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,zh-TW MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Multiple inted instances appearred in system (3.2-STABLE) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear Sir: I got this problem on 3.2-STABLE. It is a mid-loading mail server. As shown, there are 4 (or 3) inetd instances appearred in system. Is this normal? I've seen the man page of inetd, no mentioned about this 'feature'(?), but I suspect that I might need to add some parameters for it, right? Thanks for your response. -- root 22110 0.0 0.2 888 596 ?? Ss 10:43PM 0:00.72 inetd root 27029 0.0 0.2 888 628 ?? S 10:50PM 0:00.00 inetd root 27076 0.0 0.2 888 628 ?? S 10:50PM 0:00.00 inetd root 27088 0.0 0.2 888 628 ?? S 10:50PM 0:00.00 inetd -- +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+ | Shan-Ta CHEN E-Mail : sansil@pchome.com.tw | | Silver CHEN Tel(O) : +886-2-2773-9858-288 | | ³Żµ½ıF Tel(H) : +886-2-2914-1402 | +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 16 8: 2:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ideaglobal.com (ultra2.ideaglobal.com [194.36.20.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E5E21501A for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 08:02:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kiril@ideaglobal.com) Received: (from kiril@localhost) by ideaglobal.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id PAA27212; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 15:57:00 +0100 (BST) From: Kiril Mitev Message-Id: <199906161457.PAA27212@ideaglobal.com> Subject: Re: Linux compat [was Re: Linux not FreeBSD?] To: des@flood.ping.uio.no (Dag-Erling Smorgrav) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 15:57:00 +0100 (BST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Dag-Erling Smorgrav" at Jun 16, 99 02:06:04 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > "Jordan K. Hubbard" writes: > > People who desire more native apps for FreeBSD need to talk to the > > vendors in question, not wait for some mysterious 3rd party to do the > > convincing. Somebody mentioned sybase, for example, and I've gotten > > some interest from the Sybase folks in the past when we've discussed > > the matter, but it always comes down to one thing: Customers. They > > want to talk to potential customers who will be voting with their > > wallets for the product, not some OS vendor who's simply trying to > > argue that it would be A Good Thing for them to do it. > > Is this the same Sybase that is *giving away* the Linux version of > their RDBMS? Sheesh. Yep. and that's why it is my personal pet peeve. (with apologies for airing it in public :-) Kiril > > DES > -- > Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 16 8: 3:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zhurnal.ru (www.zhurnal.ru [195.54.192.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 62C2E1523D for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 08:02:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ilya@zhurnal.ru) Received: from xfire.polit.ru by zhurnal.ru with ESMTP id TAA10023; (8.6.11/vak/1.9) Wed, 16 Jun 1999 19:01:07 +0400 X-Recepient-User: Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 19:01:07 +0400 (MSD) From: Ilya Obshadko X-Sender: ilya@xfire.polit.ru To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: mysql problems after upgrading to 3.2-stable Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've cvsupped my source tree to 3.2-stable, rebuilt the system and after that I encounter a lot of problems with mysql. The performance has become lower, and there are repeaded segmentation faults. Rebuilding mysql doesn't help. System is FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE SMP, Dual P-II-333. #-- Ilya Obshadko [IDO-RIPN] -------------------------------# #-- email: ilya@zhurnal.ru, ilya24@chat.ru -----------------# #-- ICQ UIN: 10704338 --------------------------------------# To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 16 8: 9:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF3351501A for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 08:09:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) id RAA87866; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 17:09:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: Kiril Mitev Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux compat [was Re: Linux not FreeBSD?] References: <199906161457.PAA27212@ideaglobal.com> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 16 Jun 1999 17:09:13 +0200 In-Reply-To: Kiril Mitev's message of "Wed, 16 Jun 1999 15:57:00 +0100 (BST)" Message-ID: Lines: 11 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kiril Mitev writes: > > Is this the same Sybase that is *giving away* the Linux version of > > their RDBMS? Sheesh. > Yep. OK, so who's to stop us from hacking the linuxulator until Sybase works? DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 16 8:26:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dazed.slacker.com (dazed.slacker.com [208.15.208.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5FAB8157A3 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 08:26:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fbsdlist@dazed.slacker.com) Received: (qmail 89399 invoked by uid 1012); 16 Jun 1999 15:26:24 -0000 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 10:26:24 -0500 From: David McNett To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux compat [was Re: Linux not FreeBSD?] Message-ID: <19990616102624.A89278@dazed.slacker.com> References: <199906161457.PAA27212@ideaglobal.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: ; from Dag-Erling Smorgrav on Wed, Jun 16, 1999 at 05:09:13PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386 X-Distributed: Join the Effort! http://www.distributed.net Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 16-Jun-1999, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > Kiril Mitev writes: > > > Is this the same Sybase that is *giving away* the Linux version of > > > their RDBMS? Sheesh. > > Yep. > > OK, so who's to stop us from hacking the linuxulator until Sybase > works? Sybase ASE for Linux runs just fine in linux emulation. The current license for ASE for Linux, however, specifically does not allow for this. It is quite likely that this will not be the case for the next release of ASE for Linux, although I'm not at liberty to discuss the specifics of the situation. Suffice to say, there is little need to petition Sybase to change thier policy at this time, the relevant people at Sybase are well aware of the needs of the FreeBSD community. -- ________________________________________________________________________ |David McNett |To ensure privacy and data integrity this message has| |nugget@slacker.com|been encrypted using dual rounds of ROT-13 encryption| |Birmingham, AL USA|Please encrypt all important correspondence with PGP!| To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 16 9:34:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AF6FC14F53 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:34:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 10uIdr-0004Jv-00; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:34:23 -0700 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:34:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: Silver CHEN Cc: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Multiple inted instances appearred in system (3.2-STABLE) In-Reply-To: <3767BB54.3C85ADEF@tomail.com.tw> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 16 Jun 1999, Silver CHEN wrote: > I got this problem on 3.2-STABLE. It is a mid-loading mail server. > As shown, there are 4 (or 3) inetd instances appearred in system. > > Is this normal? I've seen the man page of inetd, no mentioned about > this 'feature'(?), but I suspect that I might need to add some > parameters for it, right? > > Thanks for your response. > > -- > root 22110 0.0 0.2 888 596 ?? Ss 10:43PM 0:00.72 inetd > root 27029 0.0 0.2 888 628 ?? S 10:50PM 0:00.00 inetd > root 27076 0.0 0.2 888 628 ?? S 10:50PM 0:00.00 inetd > root 27088 0.0 0.2 888 628 ?? S 10:50PM 0:00.00 inetd This may be completely normal for your system. inetd calls fork() to make a new process when it gets a new connection, then execs the server. In between the fork() and the exec() the new child will appear as "inetd". inetd provides some internal services (see manpage). If you are using these services, there may be some inetd children handling them as well. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 16 10: 2:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cygnus.rush.net (cygnus.rush.net [209.45.245.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BA2E14CEA for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 10:02:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@rush.net) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by cygnus.rush.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA24699; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 12:23:08 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 12:23:05 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein To: Ilya Obshadko Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mysql problems after upgrading to 3.2-stable In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 16 Jun 1999, Ilya Obshadko wrote: > > I've cvsupped my source tree to 3.2-stable, rebuilt the system and after > that I encounter a lot of problems with mysql. The performance has become > lower, and there are repeaded segmentation faults. Rebuilding mysql > doesn't help. System is FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE SMP, Dual P-II-333. When did you perform the cvsup? There was some problems in the threads library right around 3.2-release that you may have grabbed.. -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 16 10: 7:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zhurnal.ru (www.zhurnal.ru [195.54.192.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8BDB914CEA for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 10:07:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ilya@zhurnal.ru) Received: from xfire.polit.ru by zhurnal.ru with ESMTP id VAA13633; (8.6.11/vak/1.9) Wed, 16 Jun 1999 21:06:37 +0400 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 21:06:37 +0400 (MSD) From: Ilya Obshadko X-Sender: ilya@xfire.polit.ru To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mysql problems after upgrading to 3.2-stable In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 16 Jun 1999, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > I've cvsupped my source tree to 3.2-stable, rebuilt the system and after > > that I encounter a lot of problems with mysql. The performance has become > > lower, and there are repeaded segmentation faults. Rebuilding mysql > > doesn't help. System is FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE SMP, Dual P-II-333. > > When did you perform the cvsup? There was some problems in the > threads library right around 3.2-release that you may have grabbed.. I've cvsupped 3.2-stable at June 9. Is it fixed already? #-- Ilya Obshadko [IDO-RIPN] -------------------------------# #-- email: ilya@zhurnal.ru, ilya24@chat.ru -----------------# #-- ICQ UIN: 10704338 --------------------------------------# To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 16 10:18:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cygnus.rush.net (cygnus.rush.net [209.45.245.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D099A15005 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 10:18:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@rush.net) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by cygnus.rush.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA01984; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 12:38:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 12:38:55 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein To: Ilya Obshadko Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mysql problems after upgrading to 3.2-stable In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 16 Jun 1999, Ilya Obshadko wrote: > On Wed, 16 Jun 1999, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > > > I've cvsupped my source tree to 3.2-stable, rebuilt the system and after > > > that I encounter a lot of problems with mysql. The performance has become > > > lower, and there are repeaded segmentation faults. Rebuilding mysql > > > doesn't help. System is FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE SMP, Dual P-II-333. > > > > When did you perform the cvsup? There was some problems in the > > threads library right around 3.2-release that you may have grabbed.. > > I've cvsupped 3.2-stable at June 9. Is it fixed already? as far as i know it should have been fixed by the 9th, perhaps you can run gdb on the core file and tell us where it dies? (use the 'bt' command) -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 16 11:19:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.aepnet.com (ns1.aepnet.com [208.129.247.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9959814DE8; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:19:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@ns1.aepnet.com) Received: from localhost (chris@localhost) by ns1.aepnet.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA26966; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:11:59 -0700 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:11:59 -0700 (MST) From: chris To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: kip@lyris.com, "David O'Brien" , Holtor , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD's FTP Daemon In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 16 Jun 1999, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > kip@lyris.com writes: > > Based on the documentation what leads you to believe that the author of > > NcFTP does not understand RFC 931? Were you just being inflammatory? > > RFC931? What does that have to do with anything? > hehe, that's a good question: 0931 Authentication server. M. St. Johns. Jan-01-1985. (Format: TXT=8982 bytes) (Obsoletes RFC0912) (Status: UNKNOWN) > > As for the man page, read it yourself and make up your own mind. If > the author had read RFC959, he wouldn't have to invent his own > vocabulary as he went along. > 0959 File Transfer Protocol. J. Postel, J.K. Reynolds. Oct-01-1985. (Format: TXT=151249 bytes) (Obsoletes RFC0765) (Updated by RFC2228) (Status: STANDARD) > > DES > -- > Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > it is rather a trip to read though: Network Working Group Mike StJohns Request for Comments: 931 TPSC Supersedes: RFC 912 January 1985 Authentication Server STATUS OF THIS MEMO This RFC suggests a proposed protocol for the ARPA-Internet community, and requests discussion and suggestions for improvements. This is the second draft of this proposal (superseding RFC 912) and incorporates a more formal description of the syntax for the request and response dialog, as well as a change to specify the type of user identification returned. Distribution of this memo is unlimited. INTRODUCTION The Authentication Server Protocol provides a means to determine the identity of a user of a particular TCP connection. Given a TCP port number pair, it returns a character string which identifies the owner of that connection on the server's system. Suggested uses include automatic identification and verification of a user during an FTP session, additional verification of a TAC dial up user, and access verification for a generalized network file server. OVERVIEW This is a connection based application on TCP. A server listens for TCP connections on TCP port 113 (decimal). Once a connection is established, the server reads one line of data which specifies the connection of interest. If it exists, the system dependent user identifier of the connection of interest is sent out the connection. The service closes the connection after sending the user identifier. ... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 16 11:48:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6CC15154D9 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:48:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie) Received: from boole.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 16 Jun 99 19:48:46 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 19:48:46 +0100 From: David Malone To: Silver CHEN Cc: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Multiple inted instances appearred in system (3.2-STABLE) Message-ID: <19990616194846.A18014@boole.maths.tcd.ie> References: <3767BB54.3C85ADEF@tomail.com.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <3767BB54.3C85ADEF@tomail.com.tw>; from Silver CHEN on Wed, Jun 16, 1999 at 10:57:24PM +0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jun 16, 1999 at 10:57:24PM +0800, Silver CHEN wrote: > I got this problem on 3.2-STABLE. It is a mid-loading mail server. > As shown, there are 4 (or 3) inetd instances appearred in system. > > Is this normal? I've seen the man page of inetd, no mentioned about > this 'feature'(?), but I suspect that I might need to add some > parameters for it, right? Can you send me your inetd.conf file, and let me know if you're starting inetd with any flags? I think there may be some problem with some of the maxchild code in inetd when combined with "wait" services. If you're denying anything in hosts.allow it might be useful to know too. David. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 16 13:16: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.ucb.crimea.ua (relay.ucb.crimea.ua [212.110.138.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7500914C0C for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 13:15:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@ucb.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3/UCB) id XAA28529; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 23:12:37 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 23:12:37 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Thomas David Rivers Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.2 SL/IP Install - can't get ifconfig to work... Message-ID: <19990616231237.A26665@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Mail-Followup-To: Thomas David Rivers , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <199906161936.PAA06539@lakes.dignus.com> <199906162005.QAA06745@lakes.dignus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <199906162005.QAA06745@lakes.dignus.com>; from Thomas David Rivers on Wed, Jun 16, 1999 at 04:05:41PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [Redirected to -stable] On Wed, Jun 16, 1999 at 04:05:41PM -0400, Thomas David Rivers wrote: > > > > > > I don't seem to be able to get 3.2 to do a SL/IP > > install (this is for a laptop which seems to be > > having PAO problems...) > > > > Turning on DEBUG in the install options, I can watch > > it nicely execute: > > > > ifconfig sl0 inet 10.0.0.98 10.0.0.99 netmask 255.255.255.0 > > > > but - not matter what - that always seems to fail with: > > > > ifconfig: ioctl(SIOCAIFADDR): File exists > > > > does anyone have a clue why the ioctl for the sl0 > > ifconfig would fail? (Perhaps the sl psuedo-device > > is missing from the kernel?) [I'm guessin the > > 'File exists' is left-over stuff in errno, as the > > ioctl(SIOCAIFADDR) message seems to be the result > > of perror().] > > > > - Thanks - > > - Dave Rivers - > > > > > > > Just to add to my own mail... > > After the ifconfig "fails" (and the slattach succeeds) - it seems > that SL/IP is actually working. From the server box (this is a > straight-through null-modem connection) - I can ping the box I'm > trying to install. Also - under the shell on VTY4 - I can mount_nfs > the server's CDROM drive... so - the network is actually working... > Although ifconfig has a non-zero return code. > > I tried doing an "ifconfig sl0 down" under the emergency shell > on VTY4 - but that didn't seem to change anything; every ifconfig sl0 > comes back with "ioctl(SIOCAIFADDR): File exists". > What does ``ifconfig -a'' show? > I think I can hack-around in sysinstall to get past this; but, > something should be done before 3.3. > > - Dave Rivers - -- Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA of the ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.247.647 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 16 13:29: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.vnet.net (smtp1.vnet.net [166.82.1.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E76814E7F for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 13:28:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rivers@dignus.com) Received: from dignus.com (ponds.vnet.net [166.82.177.48]) by smtp1.vnet.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA05274; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 16:29:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lakes.dignus.com (lakes.dignus.com [10.0.0.3]) by dignus.com (8.9.2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA02790; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 16:28:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rivers@localhost) by lakes.dignus.com (8.9.2/8.6.9) id QAA07007; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 16:28:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 16:28:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas David Rivers Message-Id: <199906162028.QAA07007@lakes.dignus.com> To: rivers@dignus.com, ru@ucb.crimea.ua Subject: Re: 3.2 SL/IP Install - can't get ifconfig to work... Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19990616231237.A26665@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > > I tried doing an "ifconfig sl0 down" under the emergency shell > > on VTY4 - but that didn't seem to change anything; every ifconfig sl0 > > comes back with "ioctl(SIOCAIFADDR): File exists". > > > What does ``ifconfig -a'' show? > > -- > Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA of the > ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank, > ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, > +380.652.247.647 Simferopol, Ukraine > Well - I went back to find out. First - when you do the network setup (which I assume is the first ifconfig executed) you get the ioctl(SIOCAIFADDR) message. You have to ignore that, go ahead and do a commit to get the shell up on VTY4. Then, after the shell is up, I can do ifconfig -a and see: # ifconfig -a lp0: flags=8810 mtu 1500 tun0: flags=8010 mtu 1500 sl0: flags=c011 mtu 552 inet 10.0.0.98 --> 10.0.0.99 netmask 0xffffff00 ppp0: flags=8010 mtu 1500 lo0: flags=8008 mtu 16384 So - it seems the ifconfig was successful, even though ifconfig claims it failed. - Dave Rivers - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 16 17:37:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0BCF14D10; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 17:37:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-5-145.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.134.145]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA17967; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 20:37:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id UAA03391; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 20:39:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 20:39:01 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Gregory Bond Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vnconfig & FAT filesystem -- supported? Message-ID: <19990616203901.A3376@ipass.net> References: <199906160409.OAA12424@lightning.itga.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <199906160409.OAA12424@lightning.itga.com.au>; from Gregory Bond on Wed, Jun 16, 1999 at 02:09:47PM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gregory Bond: |Check: do you have the vn device configured in your kernel? Definitely. I mount cd9660 file systems on loopback to test after mkisofs before burning them. Did one just last weekend. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 16 18:44:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ch.lakecountry.net (ch.lakecountry.net [208.161.201.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F78014C2B for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 18:44:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trixster@lakecountry.net) Received: from mail (irconly@as5200-tyr1-ppp101.lakecountry.net [208.161.201.101]) by ch.lakecountry.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA16230 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 20:44:19 -0500 Message-ID: <010901beb861$4df51b40$65c9a1d0@mail.gatekeep.net> From: "Brandon Hicks" To: Subject: 3.2-STABLE - Rebooting without notice Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 20:32:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0106_01BEB837.62ED8D40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0106_01BEB837.62ED8D40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We just cvsup'd from 3.1-REL to 3.2-STABLE 2 days ago, today all of a = sudden every 30 min the server reboots Active ports open: 21: 220 unreal.gatekeep.net FTP server (Version 6.00) ready. 22: sshd (1) 23: telnetd 25: 220 unreal.gatekeep.net ESMTP Sendmail 8.9.3/8.9.3; Wed, 16 Jun = 1999 18:00:37 -0700 (PDT) 53: Bind: 8.1.2 80: Apache1.3.x 110: cucipop v1.31 113: pidentd Any clues? I know everything (hardware wise) else is ok... ------=_NextPart_000_0106_01BEB837.62ED8D40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
We just cvsup'd from 3.1-REL to = 3.2-STABLE 2=20 days ago, today all of a sudden every 30 min the server = reboots
 
Active ports open:
 
21:    220 = unreal.gatekeep.net=20 FTP server (Version 6.00) ready.
22:    sshd = (1)
23:    = telnetd
25:    220 = unreal.gatekeep.net=20 ESMTP Sendmail 8.9.3/8.9.3; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 18:00:37 -0700 = (PDT)
53:    Bind: 8.1.2
80:    Apache1.3.x
110:    cucipop v1.31
113:    pidentd
 
Any clues? I know everything (hardware wise) else is = ok...
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0106_01BEB837.62ED8D40-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 16 19:31:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43113150F1; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 19:31:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-1-29.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.132.29]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA08446; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 22:31:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id WAA05515; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 22:33:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 22:33:06 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Kris Kennaway , Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: stable@freebsd.org, emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vnconfig & FAT filesystem -- supported? Message-ID: <19990616223306.B5190@ipass.net> References: <19990615192406.A3498@ipass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Kris Kennaway on Wed, Jun 16, 1999 at 02:08:12PM +0930 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dag-Erling Smorgrav: |Barrett Richardson writes: |> On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Randall Hopper wrote: |> > Is it possible to mount a DOS FAT file system as a vnode disk? |> > If so, I guess I don't know the trick: |> > |> > # vnconfig /dev/vn0 /data/doscmd_C_drive |> ^^^^^^^^ |> s/vn0/vn0a | |No, vn0 is correct. He's missing a -c though. vnconfig /dev/vn0 /disk/isofs mount -t cd9660 /dev/vn0a /mnt Still no dice. # vnconfig -c /dev/vn0 /data/doscmd_C_drive # mount -t msdos /dev/vn0a /mnt msdos: /dev/vn0a: Invalid argument FWIW, I've never had to use -c when mounting cd9660 file systems stored in files. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 16 19:40:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 723F5150F1; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 19:40:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-1-29.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.132.29]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA10088; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 22:40:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id WAA05675; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 22:42:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 22:42:04 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vnconfig & FAT filesystem -- supported? Message-ID: <19990616224204.C5190@ipass.net> References: <19990615192406.A3498@ipass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Dag-Erling Smorgrav on Wed, Jun 16, 1999 at 02:26:01PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dag-Erling Smorgrav: |Randall Hopper writes: |> Is it possible to mount a DOS FAT file system as a vnode disk? |> If so, I guess I don't know the trick: |> |> # vnconfig /dev/vn0 /data/doscmd_C_drive |> # mount -t msdos /dev/vn0a /mnt |> msdos: /dev/vn0a: Invalid argument | |Does that file have a partition table? Yes, ...and with you asking that question, I think I have an idea what might be going on. doscmd_C_drive is a dd of the disk, and its a sliced disk. So it contains not just the contents of the DOS slice (/dev/wd?s?) but also the first head of the first track (/dev/wd? -- i.e. MBR + 62 sectors of blank space, then slice boot record, FAT, directory, data). I bet this is throwing mount_msdos off. If this sounds right, is there a way to, say, mount everything in the file except the first 63 "sectors" (63 * 512 bytes) of the file as the DOS filesystem? I checked the vnconfig man page, but didn't see an offset parameter. Is there a way to create a file which is just a "window" into a portion of another file? I could omit the 1st 63*512 bytes, and then vnconfig vn0 with that. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 16 19:43:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ECC414FD6 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 19:43:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jedgar@fxp.org) Received: from earth.fxp ([12.77.192.88]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with ESMTP id <19990617024334.SLBQ15914@earth.fxp>; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 02:43:34 +0000 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 22:43:32 -0400 (EDT) From: "Chris D. Faulhaber" X-Sender: jedgar@earth.fxp To: Stefan `Sec` Zehl Cc: Dag-Erling Smorgrav , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: / not properly unmounted ? In-Reply-To: <19990616142937.A24601@matrix.42.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-7369224-929587412=:301" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-7369224-929587412=:301 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 16 Jun 1999, Stefan `Sec` Zehl wrote: > On Wed, Jun 16, 1999 at 02:24:44PM +0200, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > > Stefan `Sec` Zehl writes: > > > WARNING: / was not properly dismounted > > > and a subsquent fsck happens which has no (visible) effect. > > > > > > I do use 'halt -p' to turn off my box. > > > > Either don't use 'halt -p', or disable write caching on your disk > > drives - or hack the kernel to pause for five seconds or something > > before switching off the power. > Okay...sounds like fun... I added a sysctl variable (machdep.powerdown_delay) to allow the disk cache to flush by itself before APM powering the system off. After applying the attached patch (tested on 3.2-STABLE) and installing a new kernel, just use 'sysctl -w machdep.powerdown_delay=5' for a 5 second delay. I don't know if this is appropriate for actual inclusion into the kernel...if so, I can see about merging it into -CURRENT and/or changing to a more appropriate sysctl level (i.e. kern, hw). ----- Chris D. 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In-reply-to: Your message of Wed, 16 Jun 1999 22:42:04 -0400. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 12:53:31 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hmm, except that I just stuck a DOS floppy in the drive, did dd if=/dev/rfd0c of=floppyimg and got a file I vould mount via vnconfig/mount -t msdod. If I understand things right (a big IF!) this doesn't have a slice table etc because floppies don't have FDISK labels. IF you dd'd the appropriate disk slice only (wd0s1) rather than the whole of wd0, maybe it'd work... And disklabel etc don't work on files either which is a bit unfortunate! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 16 23: 3:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from main.avias.com (avias-gw.corbina.net [195.14.40.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D46014BDA for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 23:03:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from j@avias.com) Received: from dialup1.avias.com (dialup1.avias.com [195.14.38.68]) by main.avias.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA84009; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:03:39 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from j@avias.com) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:04:12 +0300 From: Juriy Goloveshkin X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.34a) S/N D508402B Reply-To: Juriy Goloveshkin X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <9419.990617@avias.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: Ilya Obshadko Subject: Re[2]: mysql problems after upgrading to 3.2-stable In-reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Ilya >> > I've cvsupped my source tree to 3.2-stable, rebuilt the system and after >> > that I encounter a lot of problems with mysql. The performance has become >> > lower, and there are repeaded segmentation faults. Rebuilding mysql >> > doesn't help. System is FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE SMP, Dual P-II-333. >> When did you perform the cvsup? There was some problems in the >> threads library right around 3.2-release that you may have grabbed.. IO> I've cvsupped 3.2-stable at June 9. Is it fixed already? At the present moment in both branches libc_r is spoiled. But I know about fixes, which were made by Dan Eischen. With them mysql again works normally. I don't know why these changes haven't yet commited.... Bye, Juriy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 16 23:11:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fortune.excite.com (fortune-rwcmta.excite.com [198.3.99.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1FC214BDA for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 23:11:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tanizaki@excite.com) Received: from spike.excite.com ([199.172.152.97]) by fortune.excite.com (InterMail v4.01.01.02 201-229-111-106) with ESMTP id <19990617061116.LRFY29887.fortune@spike.excite.com> for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 23:11:16 -0700 From: tanizaki@excite.com To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: library errors Message-Id: <929599876.27633.771@excite.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 23:11:16 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 206.180.128.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG My computer informs me "cannot open /usr/libexec/ld.so." when netscape is started (started is a bad term it doesn't go anywhere). I've tried various releases of Netscape just to make sure it wasn't a bad install but it is a library problem. This is a fresh install of the Walnut Creek realese 3.2 Stable. I/m not familiar with how FreeBSD libraries funtion. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks, Matt Stacker tanizaki@mailexcite.com _______________________________________________________ Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 17 0: 5:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fly.lglobus.ru (fly.lglobus.ru [195.34.224.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D794014C94 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 00:05:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rover@fly.lglobus.ru) Received: (from rover@localhost) by fly.lglobus.ru (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA03906; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:05:51 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from rover) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:05:51 +0400 From: "Oleg V. Volkov" To: tanizaki@excite.com, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: library errors Message-ID: <19990617110551.A3887@fly.lglobus.ru> Reply-To: fs_rover@lglobus.ru References: <929599876.27633.771@excite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.5i In-Reply-To: <929599876.27633.771@excite.com>; from tanizaki@excite.com on Wed, Jun 16, 1999 at 11:11:16PM -0700 Organization: -=/ SR 13 /=- Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jun 16, 1999 at 11:11:16PM -0700, tanizaki@excite.com wrote: > My computer informs me "cannot open /usr/libexec/ld.so." when netscape is > started (started is a bad term it doesn't go anywhere). I've tried various > releases of Netscape just to make sure it wasn't a bad install but it is a > library problem. This is a fresh install of the Walnut Creek realese 3.2 > Stable. I/m not familiar with how FreeBSD libraries funtion. Can anyone > point me in the right direction? There was two RELEASEs, one with ld.so and one w/out. Just CVSup and make world. -- Oleg V. Volkov aka Rover E-mail: rover@lglobus.ru E-mail redirector: sr-13@mail.ru (always up) -=/ SR 13 /=- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 17 0:20: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt054n86.san.rr.com (dt054n86.san.rr.com [24.30.152.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3FEE14C94; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 00:19:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (master [10.0.0.2]) by dt054n86.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA28924; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 00:19:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@gorean.org) Message-ID: <3768A199.DA9CB5AB@gorean.org> Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 00:19:53 -0700 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sam Stephenson Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 'w' patch References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sam Stephenson wrote: > > There seem to be two problems (not even problems; more like annoyances) that > exist in the 'w' command, both which involve unnecessary spacing that limits > the size of the WHAT field. I have attached a patch to > /usr/src/usr.bin/w/w.c which corrects the following: You might want to check the mail archives and the PR's... a couple of us did similar work about a year ago and ran into similar problems. At the time there was no interest in the purely cosmetic commits, IIRC. Doug -- *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** Nominated for quote of the year is the statement made by Representative Dick Armey (Texas), who when asked if he were in the President's place, would he resign, responded: "If I were in the President's place I would not get a chance to resign. I would be lying in a pool of my own blood hearing Mrs. Armey standing over me saying, 'How do I reload this damn thing?'" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 17 0:38:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D6F615169; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 00:38:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bde@godzilla.zeta.org.au) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA20277; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 17:38:29 +1000 Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 17:38:29 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199906170738.RAA20277@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: aa8vb@ipass.net, gnb@itga.com.au Subject: Re: vnconfig & FAT filesystem -- supported? Cc: emulation@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Hmm, except that I just stuck a DOS floppy in the drive, did > dd if=/dev/rfd0c of=floppyimg >and got a file I vould mount via vnconfig/mount -t msdod. > >If I understand things right (a big IF!) this doesn't have a slice table etc >because floppies don't have FDISK labels. IF you dd'd the appropriate disk >slice only (wd0s1) rather than the whole of wd0, maybe it'd work... > >And disklabel etc don't work on files either which is a bit unfortunate! Sure it does: dd if=/dev/rwd0c of=/tmp/foo count=16 # copy a bit of my FreeBSD slice disklabel -r /tmp/foo # must be absolute pathname Setup for fdisk is a bit fussier: dd if=/dev/rwd0 of=/dev/foo count=1 # copy a bit of a disk fdisk /dev/foo # pathname must begin with "/dev" For the current problem, just configure the vn device to support slices and labels. Copying of labels in slices doesn't work very well, so handling images of FreeBSD slices may require zeroing the old label in the image and relabeling it in the vn device. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 17 1:33:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AB5E14E08 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 01:33:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA01089; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 01:33:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Message-ID: <19990617013316.A1073@nuxi.com> Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 01:33:16 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: tanizaki@excite.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: library errors Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <929599876.27633.771@excite.com> <19990617110551.A3887@fly.lglobus.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <19990617110551.A3887@fly.lglobus.ru>; from Oleg V. Volkov on Thu, Jun 17, 1999 at 11:05:51AM +0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-BETA Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > My computer informs me "cannot open /usr/libexec/ld.so." when netscape is .. > There was two RELEASEs, one with ld.so and one w/out. The CDROM is the release that does have ld.so and the release currently at ftp.freebsd.org does also. The "release" w/o ld.so should have only been FTP'able for a 3 (or so) day period. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 17 1:41: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B50D14BF1 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 01:41:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) id KAA11253; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:40:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: "Chris D. Faulhaber" Cc: Stefan `Sec` Zehl , Dag-Erling Smorgrav , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: / not properly unmounted ? References: From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 17 Jun 1999 10:40:56 +0200 In-Reply-To: "Chris D. Faulhaber"'s message of "Wed, 16 Jun 1999 22:43:32 -0400 (EDT)" Message-ID: Lines: 9 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Chris D. Faulhaber" writes: > I don't know if this is appropriate for actual inclusion into the > kernel... It's already there - it just hasn't been merged into 2.2. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 17 4:44:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zhurnal.ru (www.zhurnal.ru [195.54.192.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1C5F0152FA for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 04:44:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ilya@zhurnal.ru) Received: from xfire.polit.ru by zhurnal.ru with ESMTP id PAA04059; (8.6.11/vak/1.9) Thu, 17 Jun 1999 15:44:33 +0400 Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 15:44:32 +0400 (MSD) From: Ilya Obshadko X-Sender: ilya@xfire.polit.ru To: Juriy Goloveshkin Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Re[2]: mysql problems after upgrading to 3.2-stable In-Reply-To: <9419.990617@avias.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 17 Jun 1999, Juriy Goloveshkin wrote: > >> > I've cvsupped my source tree to 3.2-stable, rebuilt the system and after > >> > that I encounter a lot of problems with mysql. The performance has become > >> > lower, and there are repeaded segmentation faults. Rebuilding mysql > >> > doesn't help. System is FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE SMP, Dual P-II-333. > >> When did you perform the cvsup? There was some problems in the > >> threads library right around 3.2-release that you may have grabbed.. > IO> I've cvsupped 3.2-stable at June 9. Is it fixed already? > At the present moment in both branches libc_r is spoiled. > But I know about fixes, which were made by Dan Eischen. > With them mysql again works normally. > I don't know why these changes haven't yet commited.... Maybe there's a chance to get update before it will be committed? There's a lot of performance troubles on our production server after upgrading to 3.2-STABLE... :( #-- Ilya Obshadko [IDO-RIPN] -------------------------------# #-- email: ilya@zhurnal.ru, ilya24@chat.ru -----------------# #-- ICQ UIN: 10704338 --------------------------------------# To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 17 8: 1:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.digitalselect.net (mail.digitalselect.net [216.181.1.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 708E614F26 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 08:01:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adhir@forumone.com) Received: from adhir ([216.181.56.84]) by mail.digitalselect.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA29618; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:06:55 -0400 From: "Alok K. Dhir" To: "Juriy Goloveshkin" , Cc: "Ilya Obshadko" Subject: RE: Re[2]: mysql problems after upgrading to 3.2-stable Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:03:53 -0400 Message-ID: <000301beb8d2$9d28eae0$5438b5d8@forumone.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <9419.990617@avias.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Can you send these patches through? Also - on a related topic, what is the benefit of building mysql with the system thread library in libc_r versus using mit-pthreads? Thanks... > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Juriy Goloveshkin > Sent: Thursday, June 17, 1999 3:04 AM > To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > Cc: Ilya Obshadko > Subject: Re[2]: mysql problems after upgrading to 3.2-stable > > > Hi, Ilya > > >> > I've cvsupped my source tree to 3.2-stable, rebuilt the system and after > >> > that I encounter a lot of problems with mysql. The performance has become > >> > lower, and there are repeaded segmentation faults. Rebuilding mysql > >> > doesn't help. System is FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE SMP, Dual P-II-333. > >> When did you perform the cvsup? There was some problems in the > >> threads library right around 3.2-release that you may have grabbed.. > IO> I've cvsupped 3.2-stable at June 9. Is it fixed already? > At the present moment in both branches libc_r is spoiled. > But I know about fixes, which were made by Dan Eischen. > With them mysql again works normally. > I don't know why these changes haven't yet commited.... > > Bye, Juriy > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 17 8:37:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles544.castles.com [208.214.165.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7637514F26 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 08:37:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA00353; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 08:34:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199906171534.IAA00353@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Chris D. Faulhaber" Cc: Stefan `Sec` Zehl , Dag-Erling Smorgrav , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: / not properly unmounted ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 16 Jun 1999 22:43:32 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 08:34:38 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I added a sysctl variable (machdep.powerdown_delay) to allow the disk > cache to flush by itself before APM powering the system off. After > applying the attached patch (tested on 3.2-STABLE) and installing a new > kernel, just use 'sysctl -w machdep.powerdown_delay=5' for a 5 second > delay. > > I don't know if this is appropriate for actual inclusion into the > kernel...if so, I can see about merging it into -CURRENT and/or changing > to a more appropriate sysctl level (i.e. kern, hw). dingo:~>sysctl -a |grep delay kern.shutdown.poweroff_delay: 0 ... -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 17 8:39:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pawn.primelocation.net (pawn.primelocation.net [205.161.238.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BA139152A9 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 08:39:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jedgar@fxp.org) Received: (qmail 59300 invoked by uid 1003); 17 Jun 1999 15:39:52 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Jun 1999 15:39:52 -0000 Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:39:52 -0400 (EDT) From: "Chris D. Faulhaber" X-Sender: jedgar@pawn.primelocation.net To: Mike Smith Cc: Stefan `Sec` Zehl , Dag-Erling Smorgrav , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: / not properly unmounted ? In-Reply-To: <199906171534.IAA00353@dingo.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 17 Jun 1999, Mike Smith wrote: > > I added a sysctl variable (machdep.powerdown_delay) to allow the disk > > cache to flush by itself before APM powering the system off. After > > applying the attached patch (tested on 3.2-STABLE) and installing a new > > kernel, just use 'sysctl -w machdep.powerdown_delay=5' for a 5 second > > delay. > > > > I don't know if this is appropriate for actual inclusion into the > > kernel...if so, I can see about merging it into -CURRENT and/or changing > > to a more appropriate sysctl level (i.e. kern, hw). > > dingo:~>sysctl -a |grep delay > kern.shutdown.poweroff_delay: 0 > ... > On -STABLE ? not on my machine cvsup'd yesterday... ----- Chris D. Faulhaber | All the true gurus I've met never System/Network Administrator, | claimed they were one, and always Reality Check Information, Inc. | pointed to someone better. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 17 9: 8:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zhurnal.ru (www.zhurnal.ru [195.54.192.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 064F914DA0 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:08:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ilya@zhurnal.ru) Received: from xfire.polit.ru by zhurnal.ru with ESMTP id UAA12422; (8.6.11/vak/1.9) Thu, 17 Jun 1999 20:06:35 +0400 Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 20:06:07 +0400 (MSD) From: Ilya Obshadko X-Sender: ilya@xfire.polit.ru To: "Alok K. Dhir" Cc: Juriy Goloveshkin , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Re[2]: mysql problems after upgrading to 3.2-stable In-Reply-To: <000301beb8d2$9d28eae0$5438b5d8@forumone.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 17 Jun 1999, Alok K. Dhir wrote: > Can you send these patches through? Available at ftp://ftp.pcnet.com/users/eischen/FreeBSD/uthread.tgz ftp://ftp.pcnet.com/users/eischen/FreeBSD/uthread_diffs.gz (BIG THANKS to author). > Also - on a related topic, what is the benefit of building mysql with the system > thread library in libc_r versus using mit-pthreads? I could not build mysql with mit-pthreads on FreeBSD 3.x. On the other hand, I suppose that built-in system threads are faster than third-party ones. #-- Ilya Obshadko [IDO-RIPN] -------------------------------# #-- email: ilya@zhurnal.ru, ilya24@chat.ru -----------------# #-- ICQ UIN: 10704338 --------------------------------------# To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 17 9:38:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C42E81506E for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:38:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA29029; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:37:59 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <199906171637.JAA29029@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: / not properly unmounted ? In-Reply-To: from "Chris D. Faulhaber" at "Jun 17, 99 11:39:52 am" To: jedgar@fxp.org (Chris D. Faulhaber) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:37:58 -0700 (MST) Cc: mike@smith.net.au, sec@42.org, des@flood.ping.uio.no, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Thu, 17 Jun 1999, Mike Smith wrote: >>> I added a sysctl variable (machdep.powerdown_delay) to allow the >>> disk cache to flush by itself before APM powering the system off. >>> After applying the attached patch (tested on 3.2-STABLE) and >>> installing a new kernel, just use 'sysctl -w >>> machdep.powerdown_delay=5' for a 5 second delay. >>> >>> I don't know if this is appropriate for actual inclusion into the >>> kernel...if so, I can see about merging it into -CURRENT and/or >>> changing to a more appropriate sysctl level (i.e. kern, hw). >> >> dingo:~>sysctl -a |grep delay >> kern.shutdown.poweroff_delay: 0 >> ... >> Guys, this seems like the wrong solution to the original problem. The first complaint was that the power-down was catching disk stuff still in cache. Setting an arbitrary delay on the way down seems inefficient at best, and possibly not sufficient. How about instead just making sure all buffers are flushed before the power-down is allowed to to occur, however long that takes? -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org chad@anasazi.com larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 17 9:47: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles544.castles.com [208.214.165.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 086551506E for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:46:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA00939; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:43:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199906171643.JAA00939@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: chad@DCFinc.com Cc: jedgar@fxp.org (Chris D. Faulhaber), mike@smith.net.au, sec@42.org, des@flood.ping.uio.no, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: / not properly unmounted ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:37:58 PDT." <199906171637.JAA29029@freeway.dcfinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:43:37 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Guys, this seems like the wrong solution to the original problem. > > The first complaint was that the power-down was catching disk stuff > still in cache. Setting an arbitrary delay on the way down seems > inefficient at best, and possibly not sufficient. How about instead > just making sure all buffers are flushed before the power-down is > allowed to to occur, however long that takes? You can't do this, because it's the _disk_ that holds the cached data. -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 17 10: 0:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0787B150CE for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:00:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA29113; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:00:25 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <199906171700.KAA29113@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: / not properly unmounted ? In-Reply-To: <199906171643.JAA00939@dingo.cdrom.com> from Mike Smith at "Jun 17, 99 09:43:37 am" To: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:00:25 -0700 (MST) Cc: jedgar@fxp.org, mike@smith.net.au, sec@42.org, des@flood.ping.uio.no, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Mike Smith wrote: > > The first complaint was that the power-down was catching disk stuff > > still in cache. Setting an arbitrary delay on the way down seems > > inefficient at best, and possibly not sufficient. How about instead > > just making sure all buffers are flushed before the power-down is > > allowed to to occur, however long that takes? > > You can't do this, because it's the _disk_ that holds the cached data. Ok, I missed something in the original post? He's using some kind of caching (or RAID) controller? -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org chad@anasazi.com larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 17 10: 2:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rio.i-plus.net (rio.i-plus.net [209.100.20.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C989214BD5 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:02:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from st@i-Plus.net) Received: from localhost (st@localhost) by rio.i-plus.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA00190; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:01:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:01:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Troy Settle To: Ilya Obshadko Cc: Juriy Goloveshkin , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Re[2]: mysql problems after upgrading to 3.2-stable In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 17 Jun 1999, Ilya Obshadko wrote: > On Thu, 17 Jun 1999, Juriy Goloveshkin wrote: > > > >> > I've cvsupped my source tree to 3.2-stable, rebuilt the system and after > > >> > that I encounter a lot of problems with mysql. The performance has become > > >> > lower, and there are repeaded segmentation faults. Rebuilding mysql > > >> > doesn't help. System is FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE SMP, Dual P-II-333. > > >> When did you perform the cvsup? There was some problems in the > > >> threads library right around 3.2-release that you may have grabbed.. > > IO> I've cvsupped 3.2-stable at June 9. Is it fixed already? > > At the present moment in both branches libc_r is spoiled. > > But I know about fixes, which were made by Dan Eischen. > > With them mysql again works normally. > > I don't know why these changes haven't yet commited.... > > Maybe there's a chance to get update before it will be committed? There's > a lot of performance troubles on our production server after upgrading to > 3.2-STABLE... :( > Oh crap... I totally forgot that I had problems with MySQL when going to 3.2-STABLE. The solution was to simply build mysql from the port. I didn't look too deeply into it, but mysql has been up and running for 3 weeks without problem now. Hope this helps someone in need. -- Troy Settle iPlus Internet Services To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 17 10: 8:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ABC114E9D for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:08:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) id TAA24139; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 19:08:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: chad@DCFinc.com Cc: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith), jedgar@fxp.org, sec@42.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: / not properly unmounted ? References: <199906171700.KAA29113@freeway.dcfinc.com> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 17 Jun 1999 19:08:07 +0200 In-Reply-To: "Chad R. Larson"'s message of "Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:00:25 -0700 (MST)" Message-ID: Lines: 17 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Chad R. Larson" writes: > As I recall, Mike Smith wrote: > > > The first complaint was that the power-down was catching disk stuff > > > still in cache. Setting an arbitrary delay on the way down seems > > > inefficient at best, and possibly not sufficient. How about instead > > > just making sure all buffers are flushed before the power-down is > > > allowed to to occur, however long that takes? > > You can't do this, because it's the _disk_ that holds the cached data. > Ok, I missed something in the original post? He's using some kind > of caching (or RAID) controller? No, he's using a Plain Old Disk Drive with a quarter-meg or half-meg onboard cache. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 17 10: 9:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cygnus.rush.net (cygnus.rush.net [209.45.245.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61C6915512 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:09:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@rush.net) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by cygnus.rush.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA19303; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:07:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 12:07:07 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein To: "Chad R. Larson" Cc: Mike Smith , jedgar@fxp.org, sec@42.org, des@flood.ping.uio.no, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: / not properly unmounted ? In-Reply-To: <199906171700.KAA29113@freeway.dcfinc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 17 Jun 1999, Chad R. Larson wrote: > As I recall, Mike Smith wrote: > > > The first complaint was that the power-down was catching disk stuff > > > still in cache. Setting an arbitrary delay on the way down seems > > > inefficient at best, and possibly not sufficient. How about instead > > > just making sure all buffers are flushed before the power-down is > > > allowed to to occur, however long that takes? > > > > You can't do this, because it's the _disk_ that holds the cached data. > > Ok, I missed something in the original post? He's using some kind > of caching (or RAID) controller? > no, some drives have write caching, if you suddenly cut power, they don't have enough charge left to write out the data in the cache. -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 17 11:19:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from boromir.vpop.net (dns1.vpop.net [206.117.147.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C93F114C2A for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:19:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mreimer@vpop.net) Received: from vpop.net (bilbo.vpop.net [216.160.82.65]) by boromir.vpop.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA04427 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:19:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37693C1D.C13DBAE6@vpop.net> Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:19:09 -0700 From: Matthew Reimer Organization: VPOP Technologies, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mysql problems after upgrading to 3.2-stable References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Might this fix to -current have anything to do with it? Matt John Birrell wrote: > > jb 1999/05/23 03:55:35 PDT > > Modified files: > lib/libc_r/uthread pthread_private.h uthread_cond.c > uthread_mutex.c > Log: > Fix a problem with static initialisation of mutexes and condition > variables. > > Submitted by: Dan Eischen > > Revision Changes Path > 1.18 +3 -2 src/lib/libc_r/uthread/pthread_private.h > 1.14 +19 -0 src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uthread_cond.c > 1.14 +18 -0 src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uthread_mutex.c > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 17 12: 3:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (whizzo.TransSys.COM [144.202.42.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F2F614DA6 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 12:03:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by whizzo.transsys.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA57491; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 15:02:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Message-Id: <199906171902.PAA57491@whizzo.transsys.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: "Chad R. Larson" , Mike Smith , jedgar@fxp.org, sec@42.org, des@flood.ping.uio.no, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: Re: / not properly unmounted ? References: In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 17 Jun 1999 12:07:07 CDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 15:02:54 -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG So, shouldn't issuing a STOP UNIT SCSI command (and waiting for it to complete) cause the flushed data to be written to the disk? There must be a drive command which will flush the data with reliable notification. louie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 17 13: 8: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.aepnet.com (ns1.aepnet.com [208.129.247.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A365F154E0 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:08:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@ns1.aepnet.com) Received: from localhost (chris@localhost) by ns1.aepnet.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA16116; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 12:57:23 -0700 Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 12:57:23 -0700 (MST) From: chris To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: "Chad R. Larson" , Mike Smith , jedgar@fxp.org, sec@42.org, des@flood.ping.uio.no, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: / not properly unmounted ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hehe, put the hard drives on their own separate power supply, and turn them off manually after the system powers itself down.. On Thu, 17 Jun 1999, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > On Thu, 17 Jun 1999, Chad R. Larson wrote: > > > As I recall, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > The first complaint was that the power-down was catching disk stuff > > > > still in cache. Setting an arbitrary delay on the way down seems > > > > inefficient at best, and possibly not sufficient. How about instead > > > > just making sure all buffers are flushed before the power-down is > > > > allowed to to occur, however long that takes? > > > > > > You can't do this, because it's the _disk_ that holds the cached data. > > > > Ok, I missed something in the original post? He's using some kind > > of caching (or RAID) controller? > > > > no, some drives have write caching, if you suddenly cut power, they > don't have enough charge left to write out the data in the cache. > > -Alfred > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 17 13:31:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.digitalselect.net (mail.digitalselect.net [216.181.1.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93173155AB for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:31:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adhir@forumone.com) Received: from adhir ([216.181.56.84]) by mail.digitalselect.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA13477; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 15:36:31 -0400 From: "Alok K. Dhir" To: "Ilya Obshadko" Cc: "Juriy Goloveshkin" , Subject: RE: Re[2]: mysql problems after upgrading to 3.2-stable Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 16:33:24 -0400 Message-ID: <000f01beb900$a5d830a0$5438b5d8@forumone.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The mysql322 port builds fine on 3.x using mit-pthreads. I think the port patches the mit-pthreads library to build correctly on 3.x to allow it to work. It seems to work pretty good over here, so I am trying to decide if I should switch to the patched uthread libaray version... Thanks > -----Original Message----- > From: Ilya Obshadko [mailto:ilya@zhurnal.ru] > Sent: Thursday, June 17, 1999 12:06 PM > To: Alok K. Dhir > Cc: Juriy Goloveshkin; freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: Re[2]: mysql problems after upgrading to 3.2-stable > > > On Thu, 17 Jun 1999, Alok K. Dhir wrote: > > > Can you send these patches through? > > Available at > > ftp://ftp.pcnet.com/users/eischen/FreeBSD/uthread.tgz > ftp://ftp.pcnet.com/users/eischen/FreeBSD/uthread_diffs.gz > > (BIG THANKS to author). > > > Also - on a related topic, what is the benefit of building mysql > with the system > > thread library in libc_r versus using mit-pthreads? > > I could not build mysql with mit-pthreads on FreeBSD 3.x. On the other > hand, I suppose that built-in system threads are faster than third-party > ones. > > #-- Ilya Obshadko [IDO-RIPN] -------------------------------# > #-- email: ilya@zhurnal.ru, ilya24@chat.ru -----------------# > #-- ICQ UIN: 10704338 --------------------------------------# > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 17 13:43: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1F44155A4 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:42:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from yedi.iaf.nl (uucp@localhost) by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with UUCP id WAA10031; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 22:18:38 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA01003; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 20:53:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wilko) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199906171853.UAA01003@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: / not properly unmounted ? In-Reply-To: <199906171637.JAA29029@freeway.dcfinc.com> from "Chad R. Larson" at "Jun 17, 1999 9:37:58 am" To: chad@DCFinc.com Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 20:53:20 +0200 (CEST) Cc: jedgar@fxp.org, mike@smith.net.au, sec@42.org, des@flood.ping.uio.no, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-pgp-info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As Chad R. Larson wrote ... > > On Thu, 17 Jun 1999, Mike Smith wrote: > >>> I added a sysctl variable (machdep.powerdown_delay) to allow the > >>> disk cache to flush by itself before APM powering the system off. > >>> After applying the attached patch (tested on 3.2-STABLE) and > >>> installing a new kernel, just use 'sysctl -w > >>> machdep.powerdown_delay=5' for a 5 second delay. > >>> > >>> I don't know if this is appropriate for actual inclusion into the > >>> kernel...if so, I can see about merging it into -CURRENT and/or > >>> changing to a more appropriate sysctl level (i.e. kern, hw). > >> > >> dingo:~>sysctl -a |grep delay > >> kern.shutdown.poweroff_delay: 0 > >> ... > >> > > Guys, this seems like the wrong solution to the original problem. > > The first complaint was that the power-down was catching disk stuff > still in cache. Setting an arbitrary delay on the way down seems > inefficient at best, and possibly not sufficient. How about instead > just making sure all buffers are flushed before the power-down is > allowed to to occur, however long that takes? The kernel can generally only check if *itself* has dirty buffers. Does not help if a cache *on the disk* sits on unflushed data that goes down the tubes when the power goes away. On SCSI you can send a SYNCHRONISE CACHE command, which *should* work (but does not always according to my info). -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands - Powered by FreeBSD - |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte WWW : http://www.tcja.nl http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 17 13:43:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE171155B9 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:43:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from yedi.iaf.nl (uucp@localhost) by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with UUCP id WAA10028; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 22:18:36 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA00996; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 20:50:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wilko) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199906171850.UAA00996@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: / not properly unmounted ? In-Reply-To: from Alfred Perlstein at "Jun 17, 1999 12: 7: 7 pm" To: bright@rush.net (Alfred Perlstein) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 20:50:40 +0200 (CEST) Cc: chad@DCFinc.com, mike@smith.net.au, jedgar@fxp.org, sec@42.org, des@flood.ping.uio.no, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-pgp-info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As Alfred Perlstein wrote ... > On Thu, 17 Jun 1999, Chad R. Larson wrote: > > > As I recall, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > The first complaint was that the power-down was catching disk stuff > > > > still in cache. Setting an arbitrary delay on the way down seems > > > > inefficient at best, and possibly not sufficient. How about instead > > > > just making sure all buffers are flushed before the power-down is > > > > allowed to to occur, however long that takes? > > > > > > You can't do this, because it's the _disk_ that holds the cached data. > > > > Ok, I missed something in the original post? He's using some kind > > of caching (or RAID) controller? > > > > no, some drives have write caching, if you suddenly cut power, they > don't have enough charge left to write out the data in the cache. Volatile(*) writeback caches are a Bad Thing(tm). It escapes me why people can't get that message into their skulls. Sigh.. (*) volatile as in "not powerfailure protected. -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands - Powered by FreeBSD - |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte WWW : http://www.tcja.nl http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 17 13:57:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E7E7155A4 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:57:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA00513; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:51:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199906172051.NAA00513@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: chad@DCFinc.com Cc: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith), jedgar@fxp.org, sec@42.org, des@flood.ping.uio.no, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: / not properly unmounted ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:00:25 PDT." <199906171700.KAA29113@freeway.dcfinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:51:48 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > As I recall, Mike Smith wrote: > > > The first complaint was that the power-down was catching disk stuff > > > still in cache. Setting an arbitrary delay on the way down seems > > > inefficient at best, and possibly not sufficient. How about instead > > > just making sure all buffers are flushed before the power-down is > > > allowed to to occur, however long that takes? > > > > You can't do this, because it's the _disk_ that holds the cached data. > > Ok, I missed something in the original post? He's using some kind > of caching (or RAID) controller? No. Only the worst disks these days don't have onboard cache. -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 17 14: 2: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E8AB14CEB; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 14:01:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-1-177.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.132.177]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA10969; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 17:01:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id RAA01235; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 17:03:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 17:03:27 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Bruce Evans Cc: emulation@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vnconfig & FAT filesystem -- supported? Message-ID: <19990617170327.A969@ipass.net> References: <199906170738.RAA20277@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <199906170738.RAA20277@godzilla.zeta.org.au>; from Bruce Evans on Thu, Jun 17, 1999 at 05:38:29PM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bruce Evans: |For the current problem, just configure the vn device to support slices and |labels. I think I found the feature you're referring to, but it didn't quite work. Is this right?: # vnconfig -s labels /dev/vn0 /data/doscmd_C_drive # mount -t msdos /dev/vn0s1 /mnt msdos: /dev/vn0s1: Device not configured # ls -l /dev/vn0s1 brw-r----- 1 root operator 15, 0x00020002 May 27 13:43 /dev/vn0s1 |Copying of labels in slices doesn't work very well, so handling images |of FreeBSD slices may require zeroing the old label in the image and |relabeling it in the vn device. This is just a plain disk with a DOS FAT slice on it, so there shouldn't be any FreeBSD disklabel involved (AFAIK). Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 17 14: 2:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7506714DF7 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 14:02:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA00547; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:55:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199906172055.NAA00547@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Louis A. Mamakos" Cc: Alfred Perlstein , "Chad R. Larson" , Mike Smith , jedgar@fxp.org, sec@42.org, des@flood.ping.uio.no, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: / not properly unmounted ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 17 Jun 1999 15:02:54 EDT." <199906171902.PAA57491@whizzo.transsys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:55:40 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > So, shouldn't issuing a STOP UNIT SCSI command (and waiting for it to > complete) cause the flushed data to be written to the disk? There must > be a drive command which will flush the data with reliable notification. IDE. Sheesh. -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 17 23:29:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zhurnal.ru (www.zhurnal.ru [195.54.192.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 34A4D14E2F for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 23:29:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ilya@zhurnal.ru) Received: from xfire.polit.ru by zhurnal.ru with ESMTP id KAA00578; (8.6.11/vak/1.9) Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:27:49 +0400 Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:27:48 +0400 (MSD) From: Ilya Obshadko X-Sender: ilya@xfire.polit.ru To: "Alok K. Dhir" Cc: Juriy Goloveshkin , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Re[2]: mysql problems after upgrading to 3.2-stable In-Reply-To: <000f01beb900$a5d830a0$5438b5d8@forumone.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 17 Jun 1999, Alok K. Dhir wrote: > > The mysql322 port builds fine on 3.x using mit-pthreads. I think the port > patches the mit-pthreads library to build correctly on 3.x to allow it to work. Yes, mysql from binary package works without crashing, but performance is relatively slow in comparison to mysql that is built from sources (that's because of using in port non-native threads and tcp/ip connection instead of unix socket). > It seems to work pretty good over here, so I am trying to decide if I should > switch to the patched uthread libaray version... Seems that it works fine. #-- Ilya Obshadko [IDO-RIPN] -------------------------------# #-- email: ilya@zhurnal.ru, ilya24@chat.ru -----------------# #-- ICQ UIN: 10704338 --------------------------------------# To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 18 0:31:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3611B14A0B for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 00:31:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA43999; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:31:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: chris Cc: Alfred Perlstein , "Chad R. Larson" , Mike Smith , jedgar@fxp.org, sec@42.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: / not properly unmounted ? References: From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 18 Jun 1999 09:31:05 +0200 In-Reply-To: chris's message of "Thu, 17 Jun 1999 12:57:23 -0700 (MST)" Message-ID: Lines: 9 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG chris writes: > hehe, put the hard drives on their own separate power supply, and turn > them off manually after the system powers itself down.. ...which totally ruins the point with ATX auto-poweroff. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 18 0:53:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gndrsh.aac.dev.com (GndRsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DA8714FF9 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 00:53:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com) Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by gndrsh.aac.dev.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA62319; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 00:49:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rgrimes) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199906180749.AAA62319@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: / not properly unmounted ? In-Reply-To: from Dag-Erling Smorgrav at "Jun 18, 1999 09:31:05 am" To: des@flood.ping.uio.no (Dag-Erling Smorgrav) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 07:49:23 +0000 (GMT) Cc: chris@ns1.aepnet.com (chris), bright@rush.net (Alfred Perlstein), chad@DCFinc.com (Chad R. Larson), mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith), jedgar@fxp.org, sec@42.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > chris writes: > > hehe, put the hard drives on their own separate power supply, and turn > > them off manually after the system powers itself down.. > > ...which totally ruins the point with ATX auto-poweroff. Any computer modern enough to be doing ATX auto-poweroff should have modern enough hard drives that even a write behind cache is not a problem. Relize it was over 10 years ago that the spindle motor enertia was found to be enough to use the motor as a generator for the period you need to keep the drive running after power has been cut to write back the cache data. Can anyone show me a drive made in the last 5 years that fails to properly write it cache data on DC power loss? If so I'll show you a design flaw... one I know first hand that there is no good reason for. -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 18 1: 3:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6710314F81 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 01:03:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) id KAA44775; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:03:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: chris@ns1.aepnet.com (chris), bright@rush.net (Alfred Perlstein), chad@DCFinc.com (Chad R. Larson), mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith), jedgar@fxp.org, sec@42.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: / not properly unmounted ? References: <199906180749.AAA62319@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 18 Jun 1999 10:03:12 +0200 In-Reply-To: "Rodney W. Grimes"'s message of "Fri, 18 Jun 1999 07:49:23 +0000 (GMT)" Message-ID: Lines: 10 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Rodney W. Grimes" writes: > Can anyone show me a drive made in the last 5 years that fails to > properly write it cache data on DC power loss? Can anyone show me a drive made in the last 5 years (or earlier) that *doesn't* fail to properly flush its cache on DC power loss? DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 18 1:23:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E92F014EDD for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 01:23:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) id KAA45301; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:23:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: weird tty(1) behaviour From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 18 Jun 1999 10:23:20 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 8 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just had a weird experience on a 3.1-19990505-STABLE box - tty(1) reports the same tty name in two different ssh sessions. w(1) shows that I'm logged in on ttyp0 and ttyp2, but tty(1) prints /dev/ttyp2 in both sessions. Any idea what could be wrong? DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 18 1:23:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wanadoo.fr (smtp-out-007.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80F7F14FF9 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 01:23:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gerard.duval@wanadoo.fr) Received: from tntgerm4-166.abo.wanadoo.fr [164.138.67.166] by wanadoo.fr for Paris Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:23:48 +0200 (MET DST) From: Gerard Duval To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:25:29 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.17] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <99061810262600.04112@altair.orion> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-stable subscribe cvs-all To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 18 1:27: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E369314EDD for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 01:27:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) id KAA45387; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:27:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: weird tty(1) behaviour References: From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 18 Jun 1999 10:26:59 +0200 In-Reply-To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav's message of "18 Jun 1999 10:23:20 +0200" Message-ID: Lines: 13 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dag-Erling Smorgrav writes: > I just had a weird experience on a 3.1-19990505-STABLE box - tty(1) > reports the same tty name in two different ssh sessions. w(1) shows > that I'm logged in on ttyp0 and ttyp2, but tty(1) prints /dev/ttyp2 in > both sessions. Any idea what could be wrong? I'm three kinds of idiot - I mistakenly ssh'ed to the wrong box - both boxen are nodes in separate clusters and have the same hostname (with different domain names) and the same passwords :) DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 18 4:59: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30C8114F6F; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 04:59:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bde@godzilla.zeta.org.au) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA14119; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 21:58:53 +1000 Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 21:58:53 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199906181158.VAA14119@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: aa8vb@ipass.net, bde@zeta.org.au Subject: Re: vnconfig & FAT filesystem -- supported? Cc: emulation@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > |For the current problem, just configure the vn device to support slices and > |labels. > >I think I found the feature you're referring to, but it didn't quite work. >Is this right?: > > # vnconfig -s labels /dev/vn0 /data/doscmd_C_drive > # mount -t msdos /dev/vn0s1 /mnt > msdos: /dev/vn0s1: Device not configured > > # ls -l /dev/vn0s1 > brw-r----- 1 root operator 15, 0x00020002 May 27 13:43 /dev/vn0s1 This only sets the label flag for vn0. Use `vnconfig -c ...' to configure vn devices. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 18 7:29:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bytor.rush.net (bytor.rush.net [209.45.245.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79BB014E54; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 07:29:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lynch@bsdunix.net) Received: from localhost (lynch@localhost) by bytor.rush.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA15861; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:28:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:28:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Lynch X-Sender: lynch@bytor.rush.net To: questions@freebsd.org Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: SMP and celerons? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a dual celeron machines here (Tyan Thunder 2 board) PPGA Celeron/MSI DUal PPGA->Slot 1 adaptor. I compiled an SMP kernel by uncommenting the options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O lines, just like my Dual PII machine... on boot, just as it loads the kernel (even before the autoboot prompt) it panics, saying it cannot find the APIC (although on boot into single processor FreeBSD , the features line has "APIC" clearly there) Has anyone seen this before? is there a patch that can be made? opr is this just us? (this is 3.2-RELEASE) -Pat ___________________________________________________________________________ Pat Lynch lynch@rush.net lynch@bsdunix.net Systems Administrator Rush Networking ___________________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 18 7:46:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from achilles.noc.ntua.gr (achilles.noc.ntua.gr [147.102.222.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B213D14CA9 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 07:46:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from past@netmode.ece.ntua.gr) Received: from netmode.ece.ntua.gr (dolly.netmode.ece.ntua.gr [147.102.13.10]) by achilles.noc.ntua.gr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA06457 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 17:46:38 +0300 (EET DST) Received: by netmode.ece.ntua.gr (Postfix, from userid 410) id 1CF8285BE; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 17:44:08 +0300 (EET DST) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 17:44:08 +0300 From: Panagiotis Astithas To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: lpd job size control Message-ID: <19990618174408.A12750@netmode.ece.ntua.gr> Reply-To: past@netmode.ntua.gr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i X-Organizational-Unit: Network Management and Optimal Design Laboratory X-Organization: National Technical University of Athens, GREECE X-Work-Phone: +30-1-772-1-450 X-Work-FAX: +30-1-772-1-452 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I apologize in advance if this is something that has already been dealt with, but since it has taken me quite a long time to figure out, I need to whine a bit :-) The handbook, in the section about printing: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/printing-advanced.html mentions that in order to specify that you don't want to enforce an upper limit in the size of an lpd job, you should put "mx#0" in the printcap file. The text implies that the default behavior is that there is no limit on the size, but as I have found out (3.0-RELEASE) the default behavior imposes a limit of 1MB IIRC. I believe that this is the correct behavior (to have a default limit), but IMO it should be pointed out clearly in the handbook. Thanks, Panagiotis Astithas National Technical University of Athens To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 18 9: 7:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from angel.double-barrel.be (mail.double-barrel.be [194.7.102.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8E1F14F30 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:07:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mvergall@double-barrel.be) Received: from ws3.double-barrel.be (ws3.double-barrel.be [194.7.102.30]) by angel.double-barrel.be (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA29154 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 18:07:11 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (mvergall@localhost) by ws3.double-barrel.be (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id SAA02602 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 18:06:59 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: ws3.double-barrel.be: mvergall owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 18:06:59 +0200 (MEST) From: "Michael C. Vergallen" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Info required Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, I'll be upgrading pipe soon to a 64K leased line from a 2.8 K line... now for the 64K I've recieved from my telco a V35 modem ... as my router for the 2.8 K is a P6 with 64 MB Ram with FreeBSD 3.1. I don't want to go the expensive route and get a cisco at the moment as I'm shure my homebrewed system is as capable as the cisco.. but I need a V35 i/f card. Now I've seen two cards in the same price bracket one is the ISis Wanic 400 at 811 USD and the ET/PCISYC at 845 USD. Now my question is witch card is better .. e.i who has one of those cards and can tell me if they are satisfied with them or other info. They both state on their web pages that they have FreeBSD support for the cards via a patch but nothing more so before I spend the rest of this years internet budget on the card I would like to be certain what is a good solution. Michael --- Michael C. Vergallen A.k.A. Mad Mike, Sportstraat 28 http://www.double-barrel.be/mvergall/ B 9000 Gent ftp://ftp.double-barrel.be/pub/linux/ Belgium tel : 32-9-2227764 Fax : 32-9-2224976 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 18 9:39:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tornado.cisco.com (tornado.cisco.com [171.69.104.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33D9215375 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:39:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmcgover@bmcgover-pc.cisco.com) Received: from bmcgover-pc.cisco.com (bmcgover-pc.cisco.com [171.69.104.147]) by tornado.cisco.com (8.8.5-Cisco.1/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA16326; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 12:39:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bmcgover-pc.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by bmcgover-pc.cisco.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA15624; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 12:39:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bmcgover@bmcgover-pc.cisco.com) Message-Id: <199906181639.MAA15624@bmcgover-pc.cisco.com> To: lynch@bsdunix.net Reply-To: mcgovern@spoon.beta.com Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SMP and celerons? Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 12:39:14 -0400 From: Brian McGovern Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Pat, I don't know how useful this may be to you, but I saw a similar problem with some Compaq servers I bought. There was a setting in its BIOS for how the APIC would operate... it had three different modes as I remember, and only one of them would work with FreeBSD. You might want to take a gander at the docs and/or any setup utilities that they shipped you. -Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 18 12:25:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite.sentex.ca [199.212.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34BE215174 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 12:25:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simoeon (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA03971; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 15:25:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990618152443.00cac6e0@staff.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@staff.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 15:24:43 -0400 To: "Michael C. Vergallen" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: Info required In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >homebrewed system is as capable as the cisco.. but I need a V35 i/f card. >Now I've seen two cards in the same price bracket one is the ISis Wanic >400 at 811 USD and the ET/PCISYC at 845 USD. Now my question is witch card >is better .. e.i who has one of those cards and can tell me if they are >satisfied with them or other info. They both state on their web pages that >they have FreeBSD support for the cards via a patch but nothing more so >before I spend the rest of this years internet budget on the card I would >like to be certain what is a good solution. I cant speak of the Wanic card, but I have 2 Etinc cards in production at two different sites (one since October, the other since March). No packet loss, no downtime, no worries, no problems with either. We are very happy with both at full T1 speeds connected to Adtran CSU/DSUs talking to Ciscos on the other end... One in PPP, one in HDLC. Of course, having written this, the cards will now meltdown and be no end of trouble. ;-) ---Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Tancsa, tel 01.519.651.3400 Network Administrator, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 18 14:49:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.rapidcontent.com (rapidcontent.com [206.251.26.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4E1C814D52 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 14:49:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billy@isyndicate.com) Received: (qmail 14207 invoked from network); 18 Jun 1999 21:49:21 -0000 Received: from ogre.isyndicate.com (HELO localhost) (209.125.177.252) by isyndicate.com with SMTP; 18 Jun 1999 21:49:21 -0000 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: sup(1) in FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE X-Mailer: Mew version 1.93 on XEmacs 20.4 (Emerald) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990618143616D.billy@isyndicate.com> Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 14:36:16 -0700 From: Spiderman X-Dispatcher: imput version 980905(IM100) Lines: 4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In cvsup(1) there is a refrence to sup(1) which doesn't exist. Should it exist? -billy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 18 17:56: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from inet.chip-web.com (c1003518-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com [24.1.82.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0EA5B15129 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 17:55:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ludwigp@bigfoot.com) Received: (qmail 2112 invoked from network); 19 Jun 1999 00:55:56 -0000 Received: from speedy.chip-web.com (HELO speedy) (172.16.1.1) by inet.chip-web.com with SMTP; 19 Jun 1999 00:55:56 -0000 Message-Id: <4.1.19990618174127.00aae2e0@mail-r> X-Sender: ludwigp@toy.chip-web.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 17:56:32 -0700 To: Pat Lynch , questions@freebsd.org From: Ludwig Pummer Subject: Re: SMP and celerons? Cc: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 07:28 AM 6/18/1999 , Pat Lynch wrote: >I have a dual celeron machines here (Tyan Thunder 2 board) PPGA >Celeron/MSI DUal PPGA->Slot 1 adaptor. Celerons don't support multiprocessor configurations. A co-worker already tried this (2 Celerons on an Asus P2B-D), and Intel's product info on the Celeron doesn't mention APIC or multi-CPU configurations. --Ludwig Pummer ( ludwigp@bigfoot.com ) ICQ UIN: 692441 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 18 18: 5: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from chmls06.mediaone.net (chmls06.mediaone.net [24.128.1.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAC2715129 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 18:04:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Received: from thehousleys.net (frenchknot.ne.mediaone.net [24.218.96.75]) by chmls06.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA05097; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 21:04:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from thehousleys.net (housley@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thehousleys.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA23398; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 21:04:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Message-ID: <376AECB9.4539882D@thehousleys.net> Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 21:04:57 -0400 From: "James E. Housley" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ludwig Pummer , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SMP and celerons? References: <4.1.19990618174127.00aae2e0@mail-r> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ludwig Pummer wrote: > > At 07:28 AM 6/18/1999 , Pat Lynch wrote: > >I have a dual celeron machines here (Tyan Thunder 2 board) PPGA > >Celeron/MSI DUal PPGA->Slot 1 adaptor. > > Celerons don't support multiprocessor configurations. A co-worker already > tried this (2 Celerons on an Asus P2B-D), and Intel's product info on the > Celeron doesn't mention APIC or multi-CPU configurations. > Don't tell my server machine that!!!! I have two PPGA Celereon 300A's over clocked to 450 on MSI6905 rev 1.1 boards on a ASUS P2B-D MB. The standard kernel works great for me. http://www.msipc.com/6095/6095.htm I have no affilation with MSI or any of it's companies other that using a total of 5 of their celleron adapters. Jim -- James E. Housley PGP: 1024/03983B4D System Supply, Inc. 2C 3F 3A 0D A8 D8 C3 13 Pager: pagejim@notepage.com 7C F0 B5 BF 27 8B 92 FE "The box said 'Requires Windows 95, NT, or better,' so I installed FreeBSD" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 18 18:39:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from inet.chip-web.com (c1003518-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com [24.1.82.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 44F3214C87 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 18:39:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ludwigp@bigfoot.com) Received: (qmail 2331 invoked from network); 19 Jun 1999 01:39:23 -0000 Received: from speedy.chip-web.com (HELO speedy) (172.16.1.1) by inet.chip-web.com with SMTP; 19 Jun 1999 01:39:23 -0000 Message-Id: <4.1.19990618183017.00b214e0@mail-r> X-Sender: ludwigp@toy.chip-web.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 18:39:49 -0700 To: "James E. Housley" , stable@freebsd.org From: Ludwig Pummer Subject: Re: SMP and celerons? In-Reply-To: <376AECB9.4539882D@thehousleys.net> References: <4.1.19990618174127.00aae2e0@mail-r> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 06:04 PM 6/18/1999 , James E. Housley wrote: >Ludwig Pummer wrote: >> > At 07:28 AM 6/18/1999 , Pat Lynch wrote: >> >I have a dual celeron machines here (Tyan Thunder 2 board) PPGA >> >Celeron/MSI DUal PPGA->Slot 1 adaptor. >> > Celerons don't support multiprocessor configurations. A co-worker already >> tried this (2 Celerons on an Asus P2B-D), and Intel's product info on the >> Celeron doesn't mention APIC or multi-CPU configurations. >> > >Don't tell my server machine that!!!! > >I have two PPGA Celereon 300A's over clocked to 450 on MSI6905 rev 1.1 >boards on a ASUS P2B-D MB. The standard kernel works great for me. I stand corrected. Well, my coworker tried it with the SEPP, and used something faster than the 300A. From MSI's web page (at http://www.msi.com.tw/product_guide/converter/6905.htm ) it appears that the card pulls a trick to allow for dual processor operation. --Ludwig Pummer ( ludwigp@bigfoot.com ) ICQ UIN: 692441 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 18 19: 5:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17D6714D1E; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 19:05:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-1-192.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.132.192]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA19942; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 22:05:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id WAA01801; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 22:07:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 22:07:13 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Bruce Evans Cc: emulation@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vnconfig & FAT filesystem -- supported? Message-ID: <19990618220713.C1263@ipass.net> References: <199906181158.VAA14119@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <199906181158.VAA14119@godzilla.zeta.org.au>; from Bruce Evans on Fri, Jun 18, 1999 at 09:58:53PM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bruce Evans: |> |For the current problem, just configure the vn device to support slices and |> |labels. |> |>I think I found the feature you're referring to, but it didn't quite work. |>Is this right?: |> |> # vnconfig -s labels /dev/vn0 /data/doscmd_C_drive |> # mount -t msdos /dev/vn0s1 /mnt |> msdos: /dev/vn0s1: Device not configured |> |> # ls -l /dev/vn0s1 |> brw-r----- 1 root operator 15, 0x00020002 May 27 13:43 /dev/vn0s1 | |This only sets the label flag for vn0. Use `vnconfig -c ...' to configure |vn devices. Thanks! Works like a charm now. I don't understand why -c isn't needed for cd9660's, but I'll remember that it is for msdos slices. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 18 20: 1:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ignatz.north.gencon.com (ignatz.north.gencon.com [199.33.251.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0135114C2B for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 20:01:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nick@kolia.north.gencon.com) Received: from kolia.north.gencon.com (kolia.north.gencon.com [199.33.251.73]) by ignatz.north.gencon.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA16328 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 23:01:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <376B0802.FF9C17E1@kolia.north.gencon.com> Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 23:01:22 -0400 From: "Nikolai E. Wendorf" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: open files Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Nikolai E. Wendorf" wrote: > > Greetings All, > > A friend recently asked about the following: > > System is 3.2-RELEASE, and this keeps coming up in /var/log/messages: > > Jun 13 07:32:52 fw1 syslogd: /var/run/utmp: Too many open files in system > Jun 13 07:32:52 fw1 syslogd: /var/run/utmp: Too many open files in system > > Kernel was built for 32 users, it is a firewall only > machine with 0 users. On previous 2.2.8 system I used > to build the kernel with: > options CHILD_MAX=384 > options OPEN_MAX=512 > > I believe the answer lies in login.conf but since I've not gone to the 3. > yet I thought a sanity check was in order. > > Thanks, > Nick Thanks for all your help gents, The fix was installing a good login.conf, he hadn't seen a new one for quite a while..... -- ******************************************************************************* Nikolai E. Wendorf, KJ4RD nick@kolia.north.gencon.com ******************************************************************************* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 18 23:11:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from midget.dons.net.au (daniel.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.137.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2444415313; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 23:11:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from darius@dons.net.au) Received: from guppy.dons.net.au (guppy.dons.net.au [203.31.81.9]) by midget.dons.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA07717; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 15:40:34 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from darius@dons.net.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="_=XFMail.1.3.p0.FreeBSD:990619154034:5705=_"; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature" In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990618174127.00aae2e0@mail-r> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 15:40:34 +0930 (CST) From: "Daniel J. O'Connor" To: Ludwig Pummer Subject: Re: SMP and celerons? Cc: stable@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org, Pat Lynch Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format --_=XFMail.1.3.p0.FreeBSD:990619154034:5705=_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 19-Jun-99 Ludwig Pummer wrote: > Celerons don't support multiprocessor configurations. A co-worker already > tried this (2 Celerons on an Asus P2B-D), and Intel's product info on the > Celeron doesn't mention APIC or multi-CPU configurations. The only reason this is true is because of the way intel put the Celeron chip inside the Slot 1 CPU case.. The core *IS* a PII with less cache. Intel don't mention it for fairly obvious reasons. --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum --_=XFMail.1.3.p0.FreeBSD:990619154034:5705=_ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: 2.6.3ia iQCVAwUBN2s0Wmj0TqzKxF7VAQGm5AP/Ykn7j/RgXeGNR3Gi+MDkfWhSqy6qZcvg 2lOW17DUTbn5OtuocmhZCUV84tO+GXEdUQHAF3qWE8LoFyFu5PeQWhO3JueUW55Y OB7UtSF0C53289svEFuxeqqiI9lb8NndPO39BUUpb1GFkYfKZqwDlkSNWFtLUBDF 8JxUDmtNaUY= =Z28G -----END PGP MESSAGE----- --_=XFMail.1.3.p0.FreeBSD:990619154034:5705=_-- End of MIME message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 19 1: 6: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from neutron.cichlids.com (as1-004.rp-plus.de [149.221.236.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 947D714E18; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 01:04:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@cichlids.com) Received: from cichlids.cichlids.com (cichlids.cichlids.com [192.168.0.10]) by neutron.cichlids.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA09621; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 10:05:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from alex@localhost) by cichlids.cichlids.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA00691; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 10:04:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from alex) From: Alexander Langer Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 10:04:42 +0200 To: Ludwig Pummer Cc: Pat Lynch , questions@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SMP and celerons? Message-ID: <19990619100442.A654@cichlids.cichlids.com> References: <4.1.19990618174127.00aae2e0@mail-r> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990618174127.00aae2e0@mail-r> X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thus spake Ludwig Pummer (ludwigp@bigfoot.com): > At 07:28 AM 6/18/1999 , Pat Lynch wrote: > >I have a dual celeron machines here (Tyan Thunder 2 board) PPGA > >Celeron/MSI DUal PPGA->Slot 1 adaptor. > Celerons don't support multiprocessor configurations. A co-worker already > tried this (2 Celerons on an Asus P2B-D), and Intel's product info on the > Celeron doesn't mention APIC or multi-CPU configurations. Yes, but they work with such a slot1 adapter which helps the Celeron by doing the required stuff (afaik) Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 19 4:21:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from uq.net.au (fox.uq.net.au [203.101.255.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B573414DB6 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 04:21:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mynet@uq.net.au) Received: from uq.net.au (dyn-17-74.dialin.uq.net.au [203.100.17.74]) by uq.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA08561; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 21:21:21 +1000 (GMT+1000) Message-ID: <376B7D2D.C4FDB019@uq.net.au> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 21:21:17 +1000 From: Andrew X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ludwig Pummer Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SMP and celerons? References: <4.1.19990618174127.00aae2e0@mail-r> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG They dont support it officialy. This is because intel would like you to use their more expensive CPU's for dual configuartions. With a simple hardware hack you can run dual celerons. There are even adapter boards that now have a jumper so you dont need to do any soldering. http://www.cpu-central.com/ms-6905.html A few manufacturers have announced motherboards with dual socket370's so you simply plug 2 celerons in. http://www.abit.com.tw/english/press/1999/epress30.htm Andrew Ludwig Pummer wrote: > At 07:28 AM 6/18/1999 , Pat Lynch wrote: > >I have a dual celeron machines here (Tyan Thunder 2 board) PPGA > >Celeron/MSI DUal PPGA->Slot 1 adaptor. > > Celerons don't support multiprocessor configurations. A co-worker already > tried this (2 Celerons on an Asus P2B-D), and Intel's product info on the > Celeron doesn't mention APIC or multi-CPU configurations. > > --Ludwig Pummer ( ludwigp@bigfoot.com ) ICQ UIN: 692441 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 19 7:57:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from clark.mantech.com (clark.mantech.com [206.65.236.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24F8414E61 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 07:57:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david.nixon@mantech.com) Received: from mantech.com (corp-gw.mantech.com [206.65.236.37]) by clark.mantech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA21814 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 10:57:07 -0400 Received: from GATEWAYS-Message_Server by mantech.com with Novell_GroupWise; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 10:57:40 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 10:57:03 -0400 From: "David Nixon" To: ludwigp@bigfoot.com, mynet@uq.net.au Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SMP and celerons? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG A better source for info on duel celerons is Thresh's FiringSquad (of = Quake Death Match fame). They did a review of duel celerons a while ago. = It gets down to the how and why and gives detailed instructions for = soldering the needed jumpers to get SMP to work on the socket 370 to = Slot-1 cards. There are also links off the review to other duel celeron = sources and recommendations for the best 370 to Slot 1 cards to buy if you = plan on dueling up. http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/dualceleron/default.asp David A. Nixon Network Security Engineer ManTech International Corp. www.ManTech.com Phone: 1.703.218.8229 Fax: 1.703.218.8391 E-mail: David.Nixon@ManTech.Com= Disclaimer: Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer, my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental. Any resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic. The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold them is left as an exercise for the reader. The question of the existence of the reader is left as an exercise for the second god coefficient. (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism is beyond the scope of this article.) >>> Andrew 06/19 7:21 AM >>> They dont support it officialy. This is because intel would like you to use their more expensive CPU's for dual configuartions. With a simple hardware hack you can run dual celerons. There are even adapter boards that now have a jumper so you dont need to do any soldering. http://www.cpu-central.com/ms-6905.html=20 A few manufacturers have announced motherboards with dual socket370's so you simply plug 2 celerons in. http://www.abit.com.tw/english/press/1999/epress30.htm=20 Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 19 10:32:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC31914E2E for ; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 10:31:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA10373 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 19:31:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 19:31:52 +0200 (CEST) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <199906191731.TAA10373@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SMP and celerons? Organization: Administration Heim 3 Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 RZTUC(3) PL2] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David Nixon wrote in list.freebsd-stable: > http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/dualceleron/default.asp More URLs about Dual Celeron setups... http://bxboards.com/dual.htm http://www4.tomshardware.com/releases/99q2/990510/index.html Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 19 12:56:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shadow.spel.com (elevator.cablenet-va.com [208.206.84.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A122150EE; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 12:56:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mturpin@shadow.spel.com) Received: from localhost (mturpin@localhost) by shadow.spel.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA07882; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 15:04:55 GMT (envelope-from mturpin@shadow.spel.com) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 15:04:54 +0000 (GMT) From: Mark Turpin To: Alexander Langer Cc: Ludwig Pummer , Pat Lynch , questions@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SMP and celerons? In-Reply-To: <19990619100442.A654@cichlids.cichlids.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 19 Jun 1999, Alexander Langer wrote: > Yes, but they work with such a slot1 adapter which helps the Celeron > by doing the required stuff (afaik) > > Alex > The celerons have the necessary pins to support multi-processing, but intel lists them as reserved in the data sheets. I do know that MSI (MicroStar) has released a PPGA->Slot1 converter with a jumper that connects the pins. All you have to do is use two PPGA celerons and two of these converters and it works. There is some more information available(part numbers and a picture) at http://www.cpu-central.com/ Before these you had to do some soldering on the boards to get it to work. Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 19 17:14:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.on.home.com (ha1.rdc1.on.wave.home.com [24.2.9.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 407F914D1B for ; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 17:14:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter-c@home.com) Received: from 24.64.174.71.on.wave.home.com ([24.64.174.71]) by mail.rdc1.on.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP id <19990620001417.RDGV12887.mail.rdc1.on.home.com@24.64.174.71.on.wave.home.com> for ; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 17:14:17 -0700 From: peter-c@home.com (C. Peter Constantinidis) To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Video refresh rates and video modes in vga0, vidcontrol Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 00:14:16 GMT Message-ID: <376f2f8e.14506753@mail> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I'm not sure this is the right newsgroup to post this in so please forgive me. To summarize, I have sensitive eyes and easily see monitor flickering at the adapter defaults of 56 and 60 hz. To solve this I raise the refresh rate to about 85 hz or higher. The problem: The console in fbsd flickers noticably to me and I find it distracting. I realize I could run X, but there are times when X isn't always the solution. The discovery: Reading the man pages for vga, vidcontrol I see there is = no way to change the refresh rate. I also looked through the ports tree. No luck. I was told about an utility for Linux that does it, called SVGATextMode that increases the refresh rate, improves the look of the fonts, etc. and it seems rather nice though I have never run it. I can't compile it under FBSD, I don't know how. The current version is 1.9 and seems mature. Question: Is it hard to add refresh rate control to FBSD's vidcontrol or vga device? Or at least tweak the linux program so it works? Best, Peter. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message