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Date:      Tue, 4 Feb 2020 19:23:50 -0800
From:      Kevin Oberman <rkoberman@gmail.com>
To:        Thomas Mueller <mueller6722@twc.com>
Cc:        FreeBSD Ports ML <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: xterm-353
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On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 3:39 AM Thomas Mueller <mueller6722@twc.com> wrote:

> > This is quite surprising as I have not seen this. I do get occasional
> dead
> > buttons due to all of the privacy add-ons I run, especially No-Script,
> but
> > also less intrusive ones like Privacy Badger.
>
> > I have seen a few issues with sites taking advantage of some JS functions
> > outside of the standard that Chrome has added and Firefox has not yet
> > picked up. This is the fault of Chrome playing the old IE game of making
> > other browsers notwork correctly on some pages. I also have to fake the
> UI
> > identifier for some sites as they reject access from FreeBSD (Chase Bank,
> > I'm looking at you!) or do the wrong thing.
>
> > As regards chromium, I have deleted it it and will not consider ever
> using
> > it due to it's massive data collection and its blocking privacy tools
> like
> > No-Script.
>
> > Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer
>
> I know from experience what you mean with Chase Bank blocking online
> banking access if your user-agent string is not to the website server's
> liking.
>
> Chase Bank is not the only offender.  Some websites, without blocking
> access, behave differently and wrongly depending on user-agent string.
>
> I got Chase Bank to work with an outdated version of Otter Browser and a
> fudged user agent.
>
> Sometimes it's not what browser you're using, but what browser the website
> software thinks you're using.
>
> I do find some scripts to cause problems and make some websites very slow.
>
> I had problems with Mozilla SeaMonkey on nfl.com when I was looking to
> see highlights on the last Super Bowl (last Sunday night).
>
> I was glad to close that browser window!
>
> Since this problem with Chase, using Mozilla Seamonkey under FreeBSD,
> affects me so directly, I could not resist making this response.
>
> Tom
>

This is getting a bit off-topic, but I use Firefox with User Agent Switcher
by Linder. (There are several Firefox extensions that have VERY similar
names.) It works perfectly at Chase and also fixes several sites that
insist on providing the mobile version to FreeBSD. It allows the selection
of both OS and browser to provide in the user agent ID on a per-site basis.
It fixes a lot of issues.
--
Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer
E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com
PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683



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