From owner-svn-ports-head@freebsd.org Wed Jan 27 08:29:59 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-ports-head@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D50D1A6F096; Wed, 27 Jan 2016 08:29:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.contact@marino.st) Received: from shepard.synsport.net (mail.synsport.com [208.69.230.148]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B3C141A96; Wed, 27 Jan 2016 08:29:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.contact@marino.st) Received: from [192.168.1.21] (248.Red-83-39-200.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net [83.39.200.248]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by shepard.synsport.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6968D43BB9; Wed, 27 Jan 2016 02:29:57 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: svn commit: r407270 - head/ports-mgmt/portmaster To: Erwin Lansing , Bryan Drewery References: <201601261123.u0QBNcvL091258@repo.freebsd.org> <56A80CFF.7070900@FreeBSD.org> <20160127080158.GR87372@droso.dk> Cc: John Marino , ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org Reply-To: marino@freebsd.org From: John Marino Message-ID: <56A88003.5020709@marino.st> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 09:29:55 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160127080158.GR87372@droso.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree for head List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 08:29:59 -0000 On 1/27/2016 9:01 AM, Erwin Lansing wrote: > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 04:19:11PM -0800, Bryan Drewery wrote: >> On 1/26/2016 3:23 AM, John Marino wrote: >>> Author: marino >>> Date: Tue Jan 26 11:23:38 2016 >>> New Revision: 407270 >>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/407270 >>> >>> Log: >>> ports-mgmt/portmaster: DEPRECATE without expiration date >>> >> I think this needs community discussion. Many people have said privately >> it bothered them. >> > > Please revert. As you point out, there are good reasons for doing so, > but the subsequent discussion also makes clear there are plenty of > reasons not to do so. This needs a wider discussion and not a > unilateral drive-by commit. > As long as there is no qualified developer for portmaster, there are no valid reasons not to do so. This port should not be eligible to be unmaintained as it 1) documented in handbook and 2) unsuitable for community maintenance. Each objection can be countered with fact. portmaster either needs a competent single developer IMMEDIATELY (and I would say after problems are fixed) or it needs to labelled deprecated to warn potential and existing users alike. Hiding the facts does no service to anyone. John