Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 21:47:46 -0800 (PST) From: Jaime Fournier <jafour2@yahoo.com> To: Matthew Emmerton <matt@gsicomp.on.ca>, Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.ORG> Cc: Ken Bolingbroke <hacker@bolingbroke.com>, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-platforms@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD on S/390? Message-ID: <20010302054746.14056.qmail@web801.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0103011115140.22128-100000@xena.gsicomp.on.ca>
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--- Matthew Emmerton <matt@gsicomp.on.ca> wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Mar 2001, Robert Watson wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Ken Bolingbroke wrote:
> >
> > > Long shot, probably, but I've got a bunch of
> virtual machines on an IBM
> > > S/390 mainframe, and while we're running SuSE
> Linux on most of them, on
> > > a whim I tossed out the idea of running FreeBSD
> on one of them, and to
> > > my surprise, it was taken seriously.
> > >
> > > So, has anyone done any work with getting
> FreeBSD running on a S/390?
> > > What can I do to make it happen if there's
> interest?
> >
> > Well, as you've seen from the two responses
> already, the implicit answer
> > to your question of "has anyone done any work"
> appears to be "no" :-).
> > However, I think a number of us in the developer
> community see this as a
> > fairly serious gap, and would like to remedy this.
> However, IBM hasn't
> > been dropping S/390 machines and documentation in
> anyone's laps (at least,
> > not mine, and no one else has mentioned it), so
> the primary facilitators
> > would be, as with any new hardware port:
> >
> > 1) Access to necessary technical documentation and
> expertise
> > 2) Access to hardware
> > 3) Someone with appropriate expertise willing the
> guide ("own", if you
> > will) the port to the platform through to
> completion, and continue to
> > provide on-going maintainership in the face of
> adversity (someone adds
> > fine-grained SMP support and it falls on the
> maintainer to figure out
> > how that works on their platform, if no one has
> hardware).
> >
> > Part of the "real answer" is probably that IBM or
> a large consumer of
> > S/390 machines has to shepherd the whole process
> to make it happen, and
> > that probably involves a moderate amount of money,
> and moderate levels of
> > frustration. If you can provide access to the
> first and survive the
> > second, then you can certainly make this a
> reality. If not, well, it
> > would be nice to see it happen but the task is to
> identify someone who can
> > provide these.
>
> Well, I'm starting with IBM in May at their Toronto
> Labs. All of my
> managers were particularly interested in my
> non-Linux open source activity
> (what is this FreeBSd thing that you talk about?)
>
> I'm not promising anything, but I too would *love*
> to get IBM supporting
> FreeBSD in some way. Perhaps a version of JFS
> released under the BSD
> licence would be a start, and then hardware support
> for RS/6k and S/390.
>
> I will keep my eyes and ears open for anything
> useful that falls my way.
>
> --
> Matt Emmerton
>
>
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Well, I work for IBM for 4 years, and at one time they
did not know what Linux was. I run freebsd at work on
my workstation, and have to pass it off as a "linux
distribution" in order for people to understand what
it is. Some interesting news is that in front of the
IBM building here in austin they raised a flag that
said "Peace, Love, and linux".
So go figure. Linux seems to have more talk internally
than actual use. But given how big IBM is it is hard
to say what any other part of it is doing.
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