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Date:      Thu, 6 Apr 2006 16:37:31 +0200
From:      usleepless@gmail.com
To:        "Bill Moran" <wmoran@collaborativefusion.com>
Cc:        keramida@ceid.upatras.gr, tzons@comcast.net, freebsd@redry.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Help?
Message-ID:  <c39ec84c0604060737i3b2c6dc2n813fef8da133f78@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <20060406103421.09aff4e0.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com>
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i guess you are right.

i just wanted to bring it up, it should be mentioned in my opinion.
maybe it saves a soul.

regards,

usleep



On 4/6/06, Bill Moran <wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> wrote:
> usleepless@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > how about one of the LiveCDs? or don't they work like knoppix/ubuntu
> > auto configuring the most important hardware ( inputdevices, audio,
> > video ) ?
>
> This sidesteps the point.  If he doesn't have time to deal with hardware
> issues, does he have time to deal with software issues and a learnig curv=
e?
>
> I'm not disagreeing with you.  Live CDs are a great way to get ones feet
> wet with a new OS, and I highly recommend FreeSBIE as a way to introduce
> yourself to FreeBSD without making any commitment.  You still need time
> to experiment, however.
>
> > On 4/6/06, eoghan <freebsd@redry.net> wrote:
> > > Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> > > > On 2006-04-06 09:49, Bill Moran <wmoran@collaborativefusion.com>
> wrote:
> > > >> "Tom" <tzons@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > >>> I am just looking at Free BSD as a Windows alternative.  I
> > > >>> have a home workgroup that I am out growing and wanting to do
> > > >>> more with, but don't want to give MS any more Hundreds of hard
> > > >>> earned dollars.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> My first question is where can I find a site that will list
> > > >>> all approved or thoroughly checked out hardware to build a
> > > >>> "box" (motherboards, and the like).  I don't have the time, or
> > > >>> patience to get into major software conflicts or bugs. I want
> > > >>> to follow a A to B to C box build and software setup. Is there
> > > >>> someone (or more) to guide me through the process? Is there a
> > > >>> website with complete and accurate information on it? Is there
> > > >>> a "BSD for idiots" instruction book that's current? Is there a
> > > >>> BSD project team working with manufactures and touting their
> > > >>> successes?  Help!
> > > >> Don't use FreeBSD.  I know this will be an unpopular post on
> > > >> this list, but you've said a number of things that tell me that
> > > >> you will be unsuccessful with FreeBSD:
> > > >> 1) You don't seem to have any Unix experience
> > > >> 2) You're coming from a Windows world
> > > >> 3) You don't have time or patience
> > > >>
> > > >> #3 is particularly important, given #1 and #2.  FreeBSD _will_
> > > >> take you some time to understand.  It _will_ take some time and
> > > >> effort to get it working the way you want.  Since you are
> > > >> totally new to it, it _will_ require patience.
> > > >>
> > > >> If you don't have time or patience to learn right now, you're
> > > >> setting yourself up for failure.  When you do have some time
> > > >> and patience, we'll be happy to help you through your learning
> > > >> curve.  If you're looking for a fast, easy fix, you're not
> > > >> going to find it by switching operating systems to something
> > > >> you know nothing about.
> > > >>
> > > >> I've seen a number of people bash Linux and the BSDs because
> > > >> they wanted a simple, cheap solution to Windows and did not
> > > >> have the time or patience to work through the learning curve.
> > > >> Unless I've misinterpreted your email and you do have some Unix
> > > >> experience, this is not a good time to make the switch.
> > > >
> > > > No, this post shouldn't be unpopular on this list.
> > > >
> > > >   * It was written in a clear, non-confrontational, civilized tone.
> > > >   * It explains why making the switch to FreeBSD may turn out badly=
.
> > > >   * It also makes it very clear that time and effort _is_ required.
> > > >
> > > > Tom, please read carefully what Bill Moran has written.  Even if
> > > > I tried, I would probably fail to put it all in better words.
> > > >
> > > > Then, if you decide that you _have_ the patience and time to
> > > > switch, feel free to ask any question about FreeBSD here :)
> > > >
> > > > - Giorgos
> > >
> > > Yes, I agree. Although I had the luxury of having two machines, the
> > > other being a mac, so I could play with unix on that. I also dumped
> > > windows on my pc and decided on freeBSD. At first, I had trouble
> > > installing and configuring it. But with some time and this list I am =
up
> > > and running and get more and more comfortable with it each day.
> > > So if you have a spare pc lying around, try it out on this first till
> > > you get comfortable, and then go for it.
> > > Eoghan
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> >
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>
>
> --
> Bill Moran
> Potential Technologies
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