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Date:      Tue, 4 Feb 2003 11:00:14 +1030
From:      Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Rahul Siddharthan <rsidd@online.fr>
Cc:        chat@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: dillon@'s commit bit: I object
Message-ID:  <20030204003013.GI70413@wantadilla.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <20030203190543.M1455@papagena.rockefeller.edu>
References:  <20030203234013.GF70413@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20030203190543.M1455@papagena.rockefeller.edu>

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On Monday,  3 February 2003 at 19:05:43 -0500, Rahul Siddharthan wrote:
> Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
>> What I can say is that yes, I too have experienced
>> dillon the way you describe him, friendly, helpful and effective.
>> Unfortunately, he's not always like that.
>
> So the issue is, (a) Matt's work, and his presence on mailing lists,
> is very valuable (according to us users); (b) his attitude with other
> developers is not helpful (according to developers).

Yes, that's the sum of it.

> Linux has faced far worse problems, with (apparently) much more
> prickly developers, and still worked things out.  See, eg, these
> two related articles --
> http://lwn.net/Articles/8093/
> http://lwn.net/Articles/8123/
>
> Surely some such thing can be worked out with Matt too, if he's
> amenable -- have him continue to contribute, both to the code and to
> the mailing lists (I assume he's not banned from there),

No.  He has posted a few comments on the situation.

> but filter his commits through someone else who gets along with him
> (surely there must be someone who does)?

This was one of the options we considered.  On the face of it, it
looks reasonable, but it didn't work out.

> It would be a pity to lose his presence totally.

Agreed.

Greg
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