Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 20:43:14 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte <wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl> To: "David O'Brien" <obrien@FreeBSD.ORG> Cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/release/alpha dokern.sh Message-ID: <20010721204314.A19196@freebie.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20010721111928.A97882@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@FreeBSD.ORG on Sat, Jul 21, 2001 at 11:19:28AM -0700 References: <200107211738.f6LHckO97874@freefall.freebsd.org> <20010721195231.A18836@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20010721111928.A97882@dragon.nuxi.com>
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On Sat, Jul 21, 2001 at 11:19:28AM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > On Sat, Jul 21, 2001 at 07:52:31PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > Dare I suggest to have dokern.sh remove: > > options DEC_KN8AE # AlphaServer 8200/8400 (Turbolaser) > > We would actually like to support these machines in 5.0. *Especially* > since we'll have working SMP. In light of that, do you still feel we > should remove Turbolaser support? From the *floppy* yes. Not in a generic sense. > > device rl # RealTek 8129/8139 > > device vr # VIA Rhine, Rhine II > > device wx # Intel Gigabit Ethernet Card (``Wiseman'') > > These are pretty popular NICs such that we could easily have people > buying them at Frys and putting them in their PC164 class machines. Hmm. Gigabit ethernet is still (too) expensive around here for general use. > > And add back in: > > > > - Multia/Noname > > - EB64 > > I might agree with EB64 if I can fit it in. But honestly, 5-CURRENT If it does not fit then that is the end of it. I, for one, tend to use CDs exclusively on Alpha. Especially on the bigger machines. > is dogging right now on a DS-20. Running it on a Multia or NoName is > just not really reasonable. Most the Multias out there have Heat Death > Syndrome and don't get any real use. If I knew of someone besides just > you that had a VX42 I would consider the Multia a more capable machine. And I keep mine for testing ;-) [BTW Have my eyes set on a whitebox AS1200 in the meantime]. > I equate Multia/NoName with the i386(Pentium P5), which some want to > de-support in 5.0. Multia is extremely slow, absolutely true. But very often it is the el-cheapo alpha box that is available to people from junk sales for next to nothing. For example, NoName boards were sold here in .nl for US$ 12 (new in carton). This should kill at least one excuse for not owning an alpha to test commits on... [my pet hidden agenda]. If dropping support becomes an issue I would also throw out DEC3000-series altogether (now someone will go for my throat for sure). The (nasty) alternative is to have multiple bootfloppies for alpha, selectable per machine type. Not nice.. Wilko -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte "Youth is not a time in life, it is a state of mind" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message
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