From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Tue Oct 31 12:09:45 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15F16E5800F; Tue, 31 Oct 2017 12:09:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benlaurie@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qk0-x230.google.com (mail-qk0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD0DC72793; Tue, 31 Oct 2017 12:09:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benlaurie@gmail.com) Received: by mail-qk0-x230.google.com with SMTP id o187so20084086qke.7; Tue, 31 Oct 2017 05:09:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=wpRNTOTDupguLPkaIn3o1twQ9MjBa86KKEqmRsmt7js=; b=cKcPV2Asr7MwWu9I+hxbTE1NOr7BGHsM/n+mIykg+K4xW12obc9mwkuS3R9YCXHmo7 DXfiKTWgteC1a1a3hVXLznmUW4HZtK4mQWyf5TAGFgag8ks/EEd+aczFAdv3tgMZ9lG3 xTH+Pm7XvBH8uRAHAcW/yTilB3Hx4pt17TTUa1OWYgOE3Rulr5+SelM0izpbjS41mxEO 71+MhjPcBy/xpwIYDsZkoe4iwrJS7VwELB8dCC84dPCCB471qiatkijyjawV5YjLo7M6 VPBRbzhOb/wEqX2ww5FvFB+OTtgI7TSVy14mXgUV75dBS9MY8axTHqeQXaqUXUeuMo3w I5xg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=wpRNTOTDupguLPkaIn3o1twQ9MjBa86KKEqmRsmt7js=; b=gYaIFxRu3fYMiaNyeGFboOgI8HAas6XN1tF8VmYCeecamwT/h94WH+JEjvvlrwhD0f NpvPfrIFhissZW9fHDD1sgys7XZOYcwoenP2C7OKimyaMG6HWdlIKSRfI9p3LUSq5b6E pSbO/SklqIlODKFw5Zpmcsu4x5GzK2VfaZMq9HHOCNBpkK/Xqho6AD4DcP4T9nIakQzQ Iug+vNEkPBrO/NyEJpIXcFb0SG9zuBPmt/lDNodAKbniTeq0pvFeHVadDsCMPIc0ByuH kvX9k3UhIC8PXUm1Kh6lxTt04wWbP7Y6WM64bdWrYEeZzQt5pk7bVfjAWxWg0mSjQKG7 PW/A== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaXct582tlfHKXWHAkm3b6RBgqwOdilGh1wDX7JKGK+AVKlF1zbK ljQCnf2wj2uZN/R1gWrRKTo2h6R9JO/cr4uNbJB08yGD X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+S/TDvaQXKiQvwlsgaEFRMjMkBunKHz2I5lieLwYWeDPn0UOyoyqZnA9EYCZc+7/pl6ik0NrAK22N/gfYyEuyo= X-Received: by 10.55.39.145 with SMTP id n139mr2379578qkn.70.1509451783826; Tue, 31 Oct 2017 05:09:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: benlaurie@gmail.com Received: by 10.200.22.174 with HTTP; Tue, 31 Oct 2017 05:09:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <13959.1509132270@critter.freebsd.dk> <20171028022557.GE96685@kduck.kaduk.org> <23376.1509177812@critter.freebsd.dk> <20171028123132.GF96685@kduck.kaduk.org> <24228.1509196559@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Ben Laurie Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2017 12:09:43 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: OojgfRKA5KJ3YvZD77rXtAuGFCc Message-ID: Subject: Re: Crypto overhaul To: Eric McCorkle Cc: Julian Elischer , Poul-Henning Kamp , Benjamin Kaduk , "freebsd-security@freebsd.org security" , "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2017 12:09:45 -0000 On 31 October 2017 at 11:48, Eric McCorkle wrote: > On 10/30/2017 04:05, Julian Elischer wrote: >> On 29/10/17 8:36 am, Eric McCorkle wrote: >>> On 10/28/2017 09:15, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >>>> -------- >>>> In message <20171028123132.GF96685@kduck.kaduk.org>, Benjamin Kaduk >>>> writes: >>>> >>>>> I would say that the 1.1.x series is less bad, especially on the >>>>> last count, >>>>> but don't know how much you've looked at the differences in the new >>>>> branch. >>>> While "less bad" is certainly a laudable goal for OpenSSL, I hope >>>> FreeBSD has higher ambitions. >>>> >>> I'm curious about your thoughts on LibreSSL as a possible option. >> >> what gives any evidence as to it being any better? > > At least as about its first year and a half, LibreSSL had a markedly > better track record than OpenSSL (zero high-severity CVEs vs 5 from > OpenSSL, about half as many mid- and low-security CVEs). Not getting CVEs doesn't mean not having the issues: https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-announce&m=140752800525709.