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Date:      Fri, 13 Jul 2018 11:23:03 -0700
From:      Yuri <yuri@rawbw.com>
To:        Adam Weinberger <adamw@adamw.org>
Cc:        ports@freebsd.org, kevans@freebsd.org, jbeich@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Is there an index of all central poudriere builds?
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On 07/12/18 20:22, Adam Weinberger wrote:
> Every 11.x gets the same packages. They're built on the lowest
> supported version (11.1 here), but 11.2 and 11.1 pkg users get the
> same packages.
>
> Quarterly is NOT outdated. It is specifically and intentionally not
> latest-and-greatest. Whatever new pkg you're talking about, the whole
> point is that it is tested for ~3 mo in head before it arrives in
> quarterly. If you don't like it, you switch to head. That's what it's
> there for.


Looking from a perspective of a simple user who keeps with the latest 
release, 11.2 users now don't get recent package updates. The advice 
"just switch to CURRENT" doesn't work because you shouldn't advise users 
to switch to the unreleased, unstable version, and they shouldn't even 
be bothered with such things. The advise to change to 11.1 also doesn't 
work for users, because why did we release 11.2 then? It isn't obvious 
what to tell to a user in this case.


Then it is also illogical that while 11.1 was the latest release, the 
packages were same as in ports, and once 11.2 became the latest release, 
packages became delayed. Why does this change with the release number?


I think that the right solution is to use the same packages for 11.2 
that are used for 11.1.


Yuri





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