From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 17 15:45:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 55583AC1 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2014 15:45:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-x233.google.com (mail-lb0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CF10233B for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2014 15:45:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f179.google.com with SMTP id p9so3754082lbv.38 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2014 08:45:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=8sXFheRD4HGS74EwaXNsBjT7ra3bnS7I/CAfSOnQKLM=; b=XTunkznjUxSXPnZBFxF2zlKr+MgD8hEEljYZ8ss/2HqFxCwNYKHSPxGDDvfDzOq4rA E1QJVyGke+X4mZgKaYYhajP/XbMt9FwnSCsPynU3A/fy81FTT95SVNZRY3RFJpCJgeCl mCWvypmAO1LkhdKBvtUVHgSs2utYTo24A16CN32PcIxxjCnYgHsWn6eaXZy5T9BWVuKl AHHn8nLx+M6LkpiJP0sPOneBup2V/NFpiwr6ExyaJ3awOF3ZSyyR+UuUFVWshenGiCHS wQ6h1ExA2fheuu51/a375QfzPNFkJWSi7K2XUNsPgdGqnWUF15iCdtoY8b3EoiYvhFL0 01iQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.89.234 with SMTP id br10mr353035lbb.60.1395071134032; Mon, 17 Mar 2014 08:45:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.67.80 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Mar 2014 08:45:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <53270EFB.5090103@tysdomain.com> References: <20140317103830.53c42ade@X220.alogt.com> <611B8DE5-F593-4574-96AB-0965CA7EDF33@yahoo.com> <5326D093.90308@yahoo.com> <53270EFB.5090103@tysdomain.com> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 11:45:33 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Something related to C and C++ From: Brian Kim To: tyler@tysdomain.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" , Johan Bucht , Erich Dollansky , by X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 15:45:36 -0000 I really liked what Johan said about mapping your problem into the proper domain... Just to put in my 2 cents, I love C and I love object-oriented (oo) programming, but I do not like C++. For me, C is programming at its greatest because it will do EXACTLY what you tell it to do. Many languages try to imitate C via its elegant syntax and constructs, which is rather justified. However, C++ is an attempt to design a high-level oo language using a low-level interface (ie the preprocessor), which also carries over the limitations of C . As you develop a project with C++, you will begin to run into extremely opaque errors that will be difficult to decipher (particularly with templates and operator overloading). There are better languages out there to develop high-level software with my suggestion being Python.