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Date:      Wed, 27 Jan 2016 09:58:21 +0100
From:      John Marino <freebsd.contact@marino.st>
To:        koobs@FreeBSD.org, Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Martin Wilke <miwi.fbsd@gmail.com>, ports-committers@freebsd.org, "svn-ports-all@FreeBSD.org" <svn-ports-all@freebsd.org>, "svn-ports-head@FreeBSD.org" <svn-ports-head@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r407270 - head/ports-mgmt/portmaster
Message-ID:  <56A886AD.4070301@marino.st>
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On 1/27/2016 9:49 AM, Kubilay Kocak wrote:
> On 27/01/2016 7:42 PM, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 07:29:02PM +1100, Kubilay Kocak wrote:
>>> On 27/01/2016 7:17 PM, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 06:40:46PM +1100, Kubilay Kocak wrote:
>>>>> Given what the term 'deprecated' implies, I would use a pre-everything:
>>>>> message instead.
>>>>
>>>> That's a good idea actually.
>>>
>>> It would be nice to have something framework'ey that is less loaded than
>>> DEPRECATED, but more specific and consistent than your standard ECHO_MSG
>>> or pkg-message. Like CAUTION/ALERT/WARNING/INFORMATIONAL or similar.
>>
>> Personally I don't think that DEPRECATED is *that* loaded.  IMHO it works
>> quite fine for cases like this one, and no, it should not imply expiration
>> date.  But perhaps there is warrant for CAUTION/ALERT/WARNING/INFORMATION
>> or similar indeed.
> 
> Neither do I. However, while *we* might grok it's non-specific nature,
> but I'll bet you $100 that the vast majority of software users (not just
> of FreeBSD)  would go by the dictionary definition, or some equivalent
> of it:
> 
> 3. Computers: To mark (a component of a software standard) as obsolete
> to warn against its use in the future so that it may be phased out.
> 
> DEPRECATED's non specific nature is kind of what I was getting at, and
> why I think there's room for something better.
> 

It seems to me that definition is perfect.
It *is* obsolete, people should be warned, and yes, eventually it will
likely be phased out (assuming nothing changes)

What's wrong with that?  Until then, keep using it if you want.




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