From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Apr 18 21:38:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA25490 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 21:38:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from superior.mooseriver.com (ppp010-sm2.sirius.com [205.134.231.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA25485 for ; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 21:38:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jgrosch@localhost) by superior.mooseriver.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id VAA15124; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 21:38:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Josef Grosch Message-Id: <199704190438.VAA15124@superior.mooseriver.com> Subject: Re: Price of FreeBSD (was On Holy Wars...) In-Reply-To: from jack at "Apr 18, 97 11:47:28 pm" To: jack@diamond.xtalwind.net (jack) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 21:38:09 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Reply-To: jgrosch@sirius.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Let's take the subject literally and look at the Price ($$$) of FreeBSD >from the POV of an industry that FreeBSD is well suited to, the small to >medium ISP. We've reached the point that we need to start using addresses >from our second class C. Adding an alias from the second class C to the >NIC card in our BSDi 2.0.1 boxes caused them to loose the MAC address of >the router. We man-ed, route-ed, and arp-ed 'till our fingers were numb, >no success. Meanwhile my FreeBSD workstation was more than happy to sit >on both Cs. Is that problem fixed in BSDi 3.0? ???? Assuming it is, >what would it cost? 5 16 user licenses, 1 16 user with source $8448.20, >tax included. For that price upgrades for 60 days, support for 60 days. >What'd FreeBSD cost us? A bit of bandwidth for a little while. Upgrades? >Same price, and unlimited. Support? Right here. We now have one BSDi >box. Within the next few weeks I won't be able to say that. :) > Add to this the time (read billable hours) you and your co-works spent try to get BSDi to add an IP alias and the time you spent on the phone with BSDi support. [ DELETED ] >As long as the powers that be at FreeBSD.org keep producing one of the >best operating systems available, at any price, why worry about a few >closed discussions with the "private sector". Hell, if they want to get >together at Stonehenge once a month and chant and howl at the full moon >naked let 'em. Why don't I ever get invited to those kind of meetings ? I must be working for the wrong company. Josef -- Josef Grosch | Another day closer to a | FreeBSD 2.2.1 jgrosch@sirius.com | Micro$oft free world | UNIX for the masses