From owner-freebsd-pf@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 14:28:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pf@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9B35106566C; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 14:28:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thomas@gibfest.dk) Received: from mail.tyknet.dk (mail.tyknet.dk [IPv6:2a01:4f8:141:52a3:186::]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C0878FC1C; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 14:28:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2a01:3a0:a:90:58e1:509a:ca11:b1b5] (unknown [IPv6:2a01:3a0:a:90:58e1:509a:ca11:b1b5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.tyknet.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A3515D1B2D; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 16:28:24 +0200 (CEST) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 mail.tyknet.dk A3515D1B2D DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=gibfest.dk; s=default; t=1346855305; bh=2Y3v2YNOQ4ryWK5abN5yZ3La3nKW4B3CZYRkvga8cfs=; h=Date:From:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=byt1Sj2EOofhyktX7kHPEsnymsGLuDjOWSA0zkCqHUp3Y4mA7wsU9+YLM5ixduyqv 0P5LzR9giSeYPxNbfgebDg0uk0xq66g3ZXsOf0nrWR0LlXt98KpZ2XPeO8WIZE9Ifw V6NINc79GTv8bpmSdxqNBxQwOknw/KllUIK4vsjE= Message-ID: <50476187.8000303@gibfest.dk> Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2012 16:28:23 +0200 From: Thomas Steen Rasmussen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120824 Thunderbird/15.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gleb Smirnoff References: <20120905115140.GF15915@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20120905115140.GF15915@FreeBSD.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: pf@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [HEADS UP] merging projects/pf into head X-BeenThere: freebsd-pf@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Technical discussion and general questions about packet filter \(pf\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2012 14:28:26 -0000 On 05-09-2012 13:51, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > Hi! > > [announce goes both to net@ and pf@, but any discussion should > go on on pf@FreeBSD.org only, please] > > As you already may now, last half a year I've been working on > making pf SMP-scalable and faster in general. More info can be > found here: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-pf/2012-June/006643.html > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-pf/2012-June/006662.html Hello Gleb (and list), Your work seems very exciting from a performance standpoint, and it is certainty something I am looking forward to. Please don't take the following as a critique of your important work :) In your orignal announcement you confirmed my fears that this work will make our pf divert a lot from OpenBSDs pf, making bulk code-imports impossible in the future. As you know we are stuck on the old pf-syntax, how will we ever get to the new pf-syntax if your work goes into HEAD ? Currently the common "pf-ecosystem" that we've always more-or-less shared with OpenBSD seems to be crumbling. If we are going to continue along our own "branch" of pf, with old syntax and SMP support, and who knows what else in the future, should we consider renaming it to avoid having two similar-but-not-identical firewalls with the same name ? Best regards, Thomas Steen Rasmussen