Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 10:26:28 -0500 From: "Jason Halbert" <jason@jason-n3xt.org> To: "SPEAKEASY <bvagnoni>" <bvagnoni@speakeasy.net>, "Andrew Hesford" <ajh3@chmod.ath.cx>, "Kent Stewart" <kstewart@urx.com> Cc: <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: RE: How Is The FeeBSD OS Like and Different Than Say Redhat or Suse LINUX Message-ID: <FLEHIKBMHCFFLAFKKDAJOEMNCCAA.jason@jason-n3xt.org> In-Reply-To: <BHEOJOMCFODELNKHPGJECEENCEAA.bvagnoni@speakeasy.net>
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Since when did Linux become a "Professional" OS? I give Linux as much consideration as I se Windows98. If you want a "UNIX" type environment... why use a cheap copy when you can easily have the real thing? Set aside the fact that Linux is just a pain in the rear when trying to configure stuff. I do not understand this logic. --- Jason Halbert jason@jason-n3xt.org -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of SPEAKEASY <bvagnoni> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 3:45 PM To: Andrew Hesford; Kent Stewart Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: How Is The FeeBSD OS Like and Different Than Say Redhat or Suse LINUX Dear All; Thanks for everything, I think I'm going to wait a bit before I try FreeBSD, though I may not. Unfortunately, a friend just gave me a copy of Suse 7.1 Professional with the 2.4 kernel, and KDE 2.1 (kicks arse, very impressive) and it's a very very tight OS, makes me feel like Linux is about to go prime time when I see this kind of user friendliness in LINUX based OS. I personally never understood Redhat's appeal, Suse has always been clearly the better OS as far as what you get for your money. Though Redhat is more available for support, and they are American based if that's important to you. For me it's always been when comparing Redhat and Suse I always go back to the Word Perfect and MS Word comparison. How a command line based word processor like Word Perfect (where you had to have 3 hands and get your feet involved in it's weird syntax of commands e.g. control alt shift 9 k 4 just to highlight text) could become dominant over MS Word's drag and drop graphical interface is beyond me. Word Perfect had a inferior product but a very effective marketing campaign, and if it wasn't for MS monopoly on the OS world they still be number one and we would still be doing cryptic commands from the keyboard. This is how I feel about the Redhat Suse comparison, Redhat has an inferior product but a marketing campaign where Suse has no marketing campaign and a better product. Lets face it no one outside of the Linux world has heard of Suse, yet go out and try there new 7.1 compare it to Redhat interface and it just pails in comparison. I don't want to turn this into a big debate and or a flame war, I'm just telling you all how I feel and why I've decided after you have all given me you precious time and effort which I'm extremely grateful for why I'm not trying FreeBSd at this time. Again thanks for everything your input was most welcome and lets not turn this into a big debate. Thanks Brian pS I was able to play SOF with a Voodoo 5 card, 633 Celeron, smoothly and with all the graphic control sliders set to maximum under Suse 7.1, but not under Redhat 7.0, in fact no setting enables me to play the game it was totally unplayable with Redhat even with the latest Mesa3d. -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Hesford [mailto:ajh3@chmod.ath.cx] Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 7:24 PM To: Kent Stewart Cc: Andrew Hesford; SPEAKEASY <bvagnoni>; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How Is The FeeBSD OS Like and Different Than Say Redhat or Suse LINUX On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 01:49:13PM -0700, Kent Stewart wrote: > > > Andrew Hesford wrote: > > > > On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 03:45:33PM -0400, SPEAKEASY <bvagnoni> wrote: > > > Dear Everyone; > > > > > > What about compatiability with the Linux world will I be able to run stuff > > > compiled for Linux on freebsd without to much trouble? > > > > > > What about hardware compatibility just from reading the package it seems > > > that freebsd seems to support more hardware, is this true? > > > > > > > > > Sincerely > > > > > > Brian > > > > I've never had trouble with Linux programs under FreeBSD. You might not > > get the newest games running perfectly, but hey, this isn't an operating > > system for playing sophisticated games. In fact, that's what windows is > > good for: games. Linux is only half-assed for games. > > I have a program that I am interested in called Wordtrans. It translates > words between language pairs. The maintainers produce rpm's and deb's. When > it goes to install, it can't find some library's. I can use locate and they > are there. I have the source and it will build but with a lot of manual > work. It is setup to build Qt/KDE modules. There are problems building the > KDE-2 modules but I am currently using the Qt-2 module. > > How did you deal with the dependancies when you tried to use Linux programs? > Cleaning up the makefiles will take time that using the rpm's would avoid. > That is only true if I can install them. > > The default languages are spanish<>english and german<>english but they > really aren't limited to these two pairs. You can turn on "watch clipboard" > and it will translate what you select with the mouse. > > Kent Truth be told, I've only installed linux programs from the ports tree; all dependencies are already satisfied. You can get rpm running, I believe I have it installed (it was required for linux realplayer). Then, provided you have all the mandatory packages, you should be able to install them without trouble. The only thing you want to check is that linux packages are installed in /usr/compat/linux/usr rather than /usr... you wouldn't want linux stuff overwriting native FreeBSD stuff. I don't know about funning dpkg... I don't necessarily see any problem with it, though. -- Andrew Hesford ajh3@chmod.ath.cx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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