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Date:      Wed, 19 Jul 2000 04:40:49 +0100
From:      j mckitrick <jcm@FreeBSD-uk.eu.org>
To:        Kris Kennaway <kris@freebsd.org>
Cc:        freebsd-chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Color ls
Message-ID:  <20000719044049.A52681@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0007182027250.56461-100000@freefall.freebsd.org>; from kris@freebsd.org on Tue, Jul 18, 2000 at 08:28:54PM -0700
References:  <20000719041804.A52522@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <Pine.BSF.4.21.0007182027250.56461-100000@freefall.freebsd.org>

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> Oh, this is just ludicrous. "ls -G" as multimedia? Please get a sense of
> perspective.

That's my point.  When friends of mine who have been sysadmin's for years
complain about how plain-vanilla and generic the basic FreeBSD install is,
and how much work it is to get it dialed in and 'friendly', i really don't
know what to tell them.  I babble on (like i am now) about how BSD is just
more secure, or more refined, or whatever... when really i am wondering
'gee, have we managed to alienate another potential user here?'

Everyone on the list is glad to point out that they 'must not be as advanced
as they claim' but the fact is, they aren't idiots either.  That's my job.
;)  

if i had trouble getting color to work on cons25 or even an xterm, i
wouldn't be especially optimistic about something advanced, like playing
mpegs, or even sound.  I spent 2 months getting sound and my zip drive to
work.  I only stuck with it because BSD is more reliable.  When i finally
solved it, i was almost ready to go back to linux.  I was lucky.  And so i
am contributing to EasyBSD to try to make it easier for others like me.

> > It's time to sell out.  Colorls isn't THAT big of a deal if it makes people
> > happy.  Adding it will make more people happy than leaving it out will.
> 
> "Adding it"? Okay, so you *are* out of touch :-)

I meant 'fixing it', if that is the right choice of words.

To sum it all up, i get frustrated when 'progress' is alluded to as being a
crutch for 'lusers'.  Computers are a tool to make life easier.  Why the
hell does liking colors (which help the brain organize information better)
warrant being labeled as a luser?


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