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Date:      Sat, 10 Apr 1999 18:11:44 +0400 (MSD)
From:      Dmitry Valdov <dv@dv.ru>
To:        Brian Feldman <green@unixhelp.org>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: DoS from local users (fwd)
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.95q.990410175951.3169A-100000@xkis.kis.ru>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9904100927240.69973-100000@janus.syracuse.net>

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Hi!

Once again - HOW I can limit CPU usage by *kernel* ? 
Also, I've just tried set maxprocesses 5.
And it helpless.
With 5 processes limit user was able to slow down P2-450 computer.
Switching between windows in X was VERY slow. Mouse movements was slow down
too.
CPU states: 32.3% user,  0.0% nice, 67.2% system,  0.0% interrupt,  0.5% idle

Please, just try it.


On Sat, 10 Apr 1999, Brian Feldman wrote:

> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 09:29:19 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Brian Feldman <green@unixhelp.org>
> To: Dmitry Valdov <dv@dv.ru>
> Cc: chris@calldei.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG,
>     freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: Re: DoS from local users (fwd)
> 
> On Sat, 10 Apr 1999, Dmitry Valdov wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > On Sat, 10 Apr 1999, Chris Costello wrote:
> > 
> > > Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 02:05:33 -0500
> > > From: Chris Costello <chris@holly.dyndns.org>
> > > Reply-To: chris@calldei.com
> > > To: Dmitry Valdov <dv@dv.ru>
> > > Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> > > Subject: Re: DoS from local users (fwd)
> > > 
> > > On Sat, Apr 10, 1999, Dmitry Valdov wrote:
> > > > >    You typically want to set a restriction as to how many
> > > > > processes a user can spawn.  This is done by editing
> > > > > /etc/login.conf and changing the user's login class, see the man
> > > > > page for 'login.conf'.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I'm about CPU usage, not about many processes.
> > > > See:
> > > > CPU states: 17.8% user,  0.0% nice, 81.7% system,  0.5% interrupt,  0.0%
> > > > idle 
> > > > on any (tested on P2-45) machine.
> > > > 
> > > > CPU is used by SYSTEM, not by USER. So I can't restrict it with login.conf
> > > > And load average can be up to 20-40 :( 
> > > > 
> > > > Please don't redirect me to -questions, it's a kernel problem, not just
> > > > config. 
> > > 
> > >    How is it a kernel problem?  It's a forkbomb.  It spawns many
> > > processes.  You can also limit CPU usage with login.conf, I
> > > believe.
> > 
> > Hmm. How I can limit CPU usage by SYSTEM? See top's output below.
> > 
> > Dmitry.
> > 
> > PS. I've just tried it. And I'm right - CPU usage limit can't help.
> > 
> 
> So? Processes that run a while go down in priority [McKusick95 I believe, THE
> book] so they are preempted easily. Look in top and see if they're all at
> the top of the list. I bet they're not! Also, you can set per-user niceness
> levels, and why are you being so liberal giving a standard LUSER 32 processes?
> This is a system administration problem.
> 
> > 
> > 
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> > 
> 
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