From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 7 22:23:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47122106564A for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2008 22:23:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE4478FC13 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2008 22:23:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1L9S2W-0004kM-1B for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 22:23:48 +0000 Received: from 78-1-137-24.adsl.net.t-com.hr ([78.1.137.24]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 22:23:48 +0000 Received: from ivoras by 78-1-137-24.adsl.net.t-com.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 22:23:48 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 23:23:39 +0100 Lines: 99 Message-ID: References: <0016e64ca7d690e38f045d45227d@google.com> <20081205163206.GC25258@kokopelli.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigA9E0B960C3C7A403F328E93B" X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 78-1-137-24.adsl.net.t-com.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) In-Reply-To: <20081205163206.GC25258@kokopelli.hydra> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Sender: news Subject: Re: Performance benchmarks pitting FreeBSD against Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 22:23:54 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigA9E0B960C3C7A403F328E93B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chad Perrin wrote: > On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 12:20:49PM +0100, Ivan Voras wrote: >> af300wsm@gmail.com wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I don't even know if this has been done before, nor do I know for sur= e >>> if it's a sound comparison. Never the less, someone posted, in respon= se >>> to someone else here just a few days ago, some very nice benchmarks >>> provided by Kris ?Kenneway? I could be wrong on the last name, it jus= t >>> seems to me that's a last name I've seen with Kris frequently (my >>> apologies Kris if I'm wrong). Using the URL that the other poster, >>> posted, I poked around the other *.html files in that directory, but = did >>> not find any with FreeBSD pitted against windows. >>> >>> I'm just curious to see how it looks for my own sanity's sake. At wor= k, >>> someone got the grand idea that we should move to Windoze embedded (C= E >>> and XPe) and it's been quite discouraging I must say, though I must >>> admit, it's nice to actually know why Windows is ugly underneath. Fro= m a >>> programming perspective, it's just not simplistic. Anyway, I digress,= >>> I'm just curious to see how things compare to Windows on similar >>> benchmarks to what Kris provided if its ever been done. >> I've done some benchmarking of Windows file system IO (NTFS) using kno= wn >> tools like bonnie++, blogbench and postmark under cygwin and the resul= ts >> are abysmal. It might be due to cygwin, and it might not. I've used >> Windows Enterprise Server 2003. >> >> You'll probably not find any difference in computational (numeric) tas= ks >> and fairly bad results in tasks that do a lot of system work. >=20 > While the usefulness of such benchmarks may be suspect, I'd still be > interested in seeing your results. I have a large spreadsheet full of them, but here's a selection. The benchmark is bonnie++: Win2003 R2 NTFS RAID10-15 87 25 113 6425 11990 Ubuntu Server 7.10 ext3 RAID10-15 129 60 167 36114 72562 Ubuntu Server 7.10 JFS RAID10-15 131 64 167 6638 4855 Ubuntu Server 7.10 Reiser3 RAID10-15 130 60 159 30307 35101 Ubuntu Server 7.10 XFS RAID10-15 104 62 164 39 10 FreeBSD 7 UFS+SU RAID10-15 109 43 111 36551 99999 FreeBSD 7 UFS+GJ RAID10-15 50 28 103 52460 46604 FreeBSD 7 ZFS RAID10-15 95 63 180 40522 20260 The first three columns describe the system & RAID (e.g. RAID10-15 means RAID10 created from 4 15 kRPM drives), the next three are write/rewrite/read speed in MB/s, the last two are random files created/deleted. I hope the mailer doesn't destroy the formatting too much. This was on IBM ServeRAID 8k, 256 M BBU cache. (ZFS RAID was not used). FreeBSD UFS generally achieved low performance but it doesn't surprise me - I'd say its disk IO has a lot of performance problems right now. ZFS was very good, but not so much when compared to Linux file systems, especially for writing. I believe XFS was broken in that version of Linux so file creation & deletion was garbage - it's "normal" in more recent versions. File systems were left at default except noatime was turned on where available. One thing where Linux's ext3 really shines is concurrent IO - blogbench (not present in the above table) was really bad in all other OS & file system combination, so after all my results (I have > 1000 of them), I'm really hoping for an ext3/4 port to FreeBSD :) --------------enigA9E0B960C3C7A403F328E93B Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkk8TOsACgkQldnAQVacBcinpgCaA+ZxoVjxAXa799/HtNmkEbdR FZsAni8tP2wOBdMjbV12Dpc4DdawQ6J2 =gciA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigA9E0B960C3C7A403F328E93B--