Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2017 22:30:24 +0000 From: blubee blubeeme <gurenchan@gmail.com> To: Matthew Macy <mmacy@nextbsd.org> Cc: Roland Smith <rsmith@xs4all.nl>, "Zane C. B-H." <v.velox@vvelox.net>, x11-list freebsd <freebsd-x11@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: End of year Xorg status rant Message-ID: <CALM2mEnCYZWt84Ke4JN2kAnWJYGkQhfCDA81odc5ogZORqfY0A@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <159666235c7.123958e86174268.1988566489792006158@nextbsd.org> References: <20161230163653.54909631@rsbsd.rsb> <15952279f17.e0be0d8c34357.732964216134709731@nextbsd.org> <20161231120453.13adf858@thor.walstatt.dynvpn.de> <20161231145143.18e6ac99@rsbsd.rsb> <20161231131150.GA3514@lonesome.com> <20161231160319.1a77a8fd@azsupport.com> <822e64b6a6efa38ad5331e2be3f175f9@vvelox.net> <20170103183149.GA86111@slackbox.erewhon.home> <CALM2mEmmtx%2B%2BP6XCRgie_TGv6c7_zwtDJMX1cQ-guC=CLfdRcw@mail.gmail.com> <15965d3f462.e563526350116.951917747823032795@nextbsd.org> <CALM2mEnmi1LNDmAhcKJTBi8f%2Bb-g2=6Cc4%2BKqTuJSdzhOSc8Fg@mail.gmail.com> <159663a3ce5.1150200c6170891.7342168662165756909@nextbsd.org> <CALM2mE==jufHpDoV2saC9E1_MXf%2BgJGVNFUJF3mJM2DHgQgj-g@mail.gmail.com> <159666235c7.123958e86174268.1988566489792006158@nextbsd.org>
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Backs against the wall, nothing to lose, there's no use in being timid at a time like this. Thanks for all the info. If there's anything else anyone would like to say, I'm all ears. For me, more info I have the better, I don't care if it's good, bad or indifferent I'm all ears. If you don't want to share something on the public mailing list, you can reach me at my email address. Best, Owen On Wed, Jan 4, 2017, 06:10 Matthew Macy <mmacy@nextbsd.org> wrote: > > > > ---- On Tue, 03 Jan 2017 13:37:30 -0800 blubee blubeeme < > gurenchan@gmail.com> wrote ---- > > Well, knowing things like this up front would be helpful or is it just > insider knowledge from people who were around at that time this stuff was > going on. These are genuine questions I'm asking. > > It's not widely discussed. It reflects badly on FreeBSD as well to have a > former contributor react like that. Nonetheless, it illustrates the > frustration that contributors to this area might experience. > > > > There's no reason for any corporation to fund BSD graphics work so I'm > not even thinking about that. I doubt there's any funds to pay even a > single developer. > > Barring tablet / kiosk development - which I see no case for, given the > wide adoption of Android, Google's deep pockets, and the fact that no one > is really making money off of *that*. > > > > The more you look around the more it seems like there's a lot more to > this issue. I am going to make contributions but I'd like to avoid > reinventing the wheel but I also don't want for freebsd to be dependent on > things outside its control which seems nuts. > > Every year new graphics hardware comes out and applications come to depend > on new interfaces. The FreeBSD community has little say in either. > > -M > > >
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