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Date:      Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:52:28 +0200
From:      "Simon L. Nielsen" <simon@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@freebsd.org>
Cc:        cvs-all@freebsd.org, doc-committers@freebsd.org, cvs-doc@freebsd.org, Hideyuki KURASHINA <rushani@bl.mmtr.or.jp>
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: doc/ja_JP.eucJP/books/handbook/desktop chapter.sgml
Message-ID:  <20050617105228.GA89619@eddie.nitro.dk>
In-Reply-To: <20050617090837.GC791@flame.pc>
References:  <200506152034.j5FKYqrZ030874@repoman.freebsd.org> <20050616.054643.55424432.rushani@bl.mmtr.or.jp> <20050617090837.GC791@flame.pc>

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On 2005.06.17 12:08:37 +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:

> Actually, please do.
>=20
> Typing the log message in an offline file and then using:
>=20
> 	% cvs ci -F logmsg file [...]
>=20
> tends to lock the repository files for the minimal amount of time
> necessary to do the commit operation.  On the other hand, using:
>=20
> 	% cvs ci
>=20
> and then sitting in an editor (with parts of the repository locked)
> usually ends up in quite a few problems:
>=20
>   - Quickly typed log messages that are a mess, or
>   - Trouble by failing connections that leave stale CVS locks around
>=20
> I've been bitten by both, quite a few times; thankfully, not in the
> central FreeBSD repository, but other CVS trees.
>=20
> So, please, you are welcome to use cvs commit -F logfile :)

I never use -F and I generally think it's a bad idea since you cannot
double check that you commit the right thing.  I always prefer to
write up the commit message in advance, in a temporary file (where I
also keep some old entries I might use again later :) ), and the
simply copy/paste the text when doing the commit.  That way you can
also check that you are committing to the right branch, and that you
are not committing any files that you did not want to commit :-).

Anyway that was my 0.00002DKR, and I will shut up now :-).

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Simon L. Nielsen

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