From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 24 00:38:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00EA2106566C for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2010 00:38:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rincebrain@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f226.google.com (mail-fx0-f226.google.com [209.85.220.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8625C8FC0C for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2010 00:38:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm26 with SMTP id 26so28490fxm.13 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 2010 16:38:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=w+kTOBGMYMF4H5a3AKA3c23aKMlGkb87AtfOd770RY8=; b=xgWSlT+8Te0Q1xr70hzva2NJScld8Q3Y6BZHYaHovwiQhyoo0hjlPXCejNWPijSO2G L8Zw6/NiyjZzaY1A8N7tcqHCplcz5NBG5NBFd7OHDIN6sLfGhhxXatzCg6Hfu7kb4oau Vj8Kpby9KR9fD3Fau10adWyQ9p2UYS8Gl8w9I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=RICIdxK1a5M3MdNwcVHjlTEdqIF5Fy317q1m926Bp7d4a3VMjfNb3HKRgNX7MjESUv /30R2IIDr9VeFrKYc22u9YKWusSfFHjlwgUf+7CgrDzKNNIN9PtwRyaQuiIAzDJXO3+4 rjHerleZEMFQWnPKvoi+XSTZh647UWhL2t4UM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.167.131 with SMTP id g3mr517897hbe.14.1264293527349; Sat, 23 Jan 2010 16:38:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B5B94B8.7070509@modulus.org> References: <5da0588e1001222223m773648am907267235bdcf882@mail.gmail.com> <5da0588e1001230014k1b8a32f8v42046497265429ed@mail.gmail.com> <5da0588e1001231415t403f29ceq6e8dcd16edb4a28@mail.gmail.com> <5da0588e1001231541l246769eao410c5ea6ccca0de4@mail.gmail.com> <5da0588e1001231615t37c22575uedaae938be40f530@mail.gmail.com> <4B5B94B8.7070509@modulus.org> Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 19:38:47 -0500 Message-ID: <5da0588e1001231638i349f8f17t297e970b08825441@mail.gmail.com> From: Rich To: Andrew Snow Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Errors on a file on a zpool: How to remove? X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 00:38:49 -0000 I'm not claiming that restoring data from backups is unreasonable, or that silent data corruption is better. I'm claiming that my inability to delete the corrupted data in order to restore from backups without nuking unaffected data or remaking the filesystem is unreasonable. - Rich On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Andrew Snow wrote: > Rich wrote: >> >> I claim this is still Bad Behavior, and should be resolvable without >> doing something like that. > > I cannot agree that silent corruption (which would have happened with any > other filesystem) is preferable to what ZFS is doing here. > > You had bad RAM, and no redundancy in a huge RAID0, I think it would be > reasonable to have to restore from backups or recreate the data and not pin > blame on ZFS. > > > - Andrew > -- BOFH excuse #208: Your mail is being routed through Germany ... and they're censoring us.