From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 7 8:26:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail4.cableaz.com (mail4.cableaz.com [63.241.150.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C3337B402 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 08:26:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from caz (proxy.cableaz.com [63.241.150.31] (may be forged)) by mail4.cableaz.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g07GJF035455 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 09:19:16 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from jeremy@cableaz.com) Message-ID: <000501c19797$c5902a60$0c0aa8c0@caz> From: "Jeremy Buckner" To: Subject: Sendmail issue Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 09:24:24 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Has anyone ever had a problem with the character length of a username in Sendmail? My users work just fine if they have a username that is 15 characters or less. If it is 16 or more they get an error message saying that the username or password is wrong. I have looked briefly at the Sendmail docs, but figured I could get the answer easier this way. Call me lazy..or maybe that it's Monday and I'm still asleep! Thank in advance, Jeremy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 7 8:32:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from taka.swcp.com (taka.swcp.com [198.59.115.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C6637B400 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 08:32:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from inago.swcp.com (inago.swcp.com [198.59.115.17]) by taka.swcp.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g07GWYQ58270 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 09:32:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (deichert@localhost) by inago.swcp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA27456 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 09:32:34 -0700 (MST) X-Authentication-Warning: inago.swcp.com: deichert owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 09:32:34 -0700 (MST) From: Diana Eichert X-Sender: deichert@inago.swcp.com To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: OT problem with Gandi registrar In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020104150753.0370de18@mail.Go2France.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is off-topic, but I changed some domains over to Gandi after hearing good things here. I've been trying to update information for a domain and it appears that I can't edit the Country via the WebForm. I could the other day, on another domain, but today no. Anyone else having problems with Gandi? Besides the fact that their website can be REALLY slow sometimes. diana eichert To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 7 8:41: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.alpha1.net (megatron.alpha1.net [66.119.232.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 465DC37B400 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 08:41:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from marius.org (cdm-66-158-23-brcs.cox-internet.com [66.76.158.23]) by mail.alpha1.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id g07GevT92707; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 10:40:57 -0600 (CST) Received: (from marius@localhost) by marius.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g07Gfm554028; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 10:41:48 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 10:41:48 -0600 From: Marius Strom To: Jeremy Buckner Cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sendmail issue Message-ID: <20020107164148.GK39369@marius.org> Mail-Followup-To: Jeremy Buckner , isp@freebsd.org References: <000501c19797$c5902a60$0c0aa8c0@caz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000501c19797$c5902a60$0c0aa8c0@caz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jeremy, Your issue is not with sendmail, but I would venture to say with FreeBSD. Search the list archives for ways of patching the source to increase the limits, but be wary of doing this, as future cvsup's will blow away your changes (and it's not "supported" anyway). On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 09:24:24AM -0700, Jeremy Buckner wrote: > Has anyone ever had a problem with the character length of a username in Sendmail? My users work > just fine if they have a username that is 15 characters or less. If it is 16 or more they get an > error message saying that the username or password is wrong. I have looked briefly at the Sendmail > docs, but figured I could get the answer easier this way. Call me lazy..or maybe that it's Monday > and I'm still asleep! > > Thank in advance, > Jeremy > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- /-------------------------------------------------> Marius Strom | Always carry a short length of fibre-optic cable. Professional Geek | If you get lost, then you can drop it on the System/Network Admin | ground, wait 10 minutes, and ask the backhoe http://www.marius.org/ | operator how to get back to civilization. \-------------| Alan Frame |----------------------> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 7 10:35:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from infiniteloop.ca (infiniteloop.ca [216.126.86.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EF2437B405 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 10:35:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by infiniteloop.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B09A234; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 13:35:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from blake (CPE0050da7c7e5d.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.32.246]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by infiniteloop.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id A98C922C; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 13:35:05 -0500 (EST) From: "Blake Crosby" To: , Subject: Restricting Users Geographically Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 13:35:05 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20010714 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I currently run the (only) Canadian PostgreSQL www mirror. I am finding people who aren't in Canada using the mirror, and somewhat bothered by this fact. What I want to do is restrict users so that only Canadian visitors can access the website. This would be easy if everyone had a .ca ccTLD has their hostname - but that's not the case :/ Is there any way I can restrict users based on geographic location? Either as an apache module, or some fancy way using IPFW? Regards, Blake Crosby dev@samurai.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 7 13: 8:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from imo-m01.mx.aol.com (imo-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94B7637B41B for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 13:08:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from TD790@aol.com by imo-m01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id s.10d.b6fcc9b (3976); Mon, 7 Jan 2002 16:08:09 -0500 (EST) From: TD790@aol.com Message-ID: <10d.b6fcc9b.296b6838@aol.com> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 16:08:08 EST Subject: Re: Restricting Users Geographically To: dev@samurai.com Cc: isp@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 139 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In a message dated 01/07/2002 1:35:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, dev@samurai.com writes: > What I want to do is restrict users so that only Canadian visitors can > access the website. This would be easy if everyone had a .ca ccTLD has their > hostname - but that's not the case :/ > > Is there any way I can restrict users based on geographic location? Either > as an apache module, or some fancy way using IPFW? > How about putting the instructions in French? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 7 13:11:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.uniserve.com (mail2.uniserve.com [204.244.156.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37C7937B400 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 13:11:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from rob.office.uniserve.ca ([204.244.161.211] helo=rob) by mail2.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 16Nh3S-000G5h-00; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 13:11:38 -0800 Message-ID: <038801c197c0$1ba3f710$d3a1f4cc@rob> From: "Robert Westendorp" To: , Cc: References: <10d.b6fcc9b.296b6838@aol.com> Subject: Re: Restricting Users Geographically Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 13:13:09 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Not everyone in Canada speaks or reads French. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 1:08 PM Subject: Re: Restricting Users Geographically > In a message dated 01/07/2002 1:35:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, > dev@samurai.com writes: > > > What I want to do is restrict users so that only Canadian visitors can > > access the website. This would be easy if everyone had a .ca ccTLD has > their > > hostname - but that's not the case :/ > > > > Is there any way I can restrict users based on geographic location? Either > > as an apache module, or some fancy way using IPFW? > > > > How about putting the instructions in French? > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 7 13:19:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from squall.waterspout.com (squall.waterspout.com [208.13.56.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6361237B417 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 13:19:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by squall.waterspout.com (Postfix, from userid 1050) id 6C34A9B08; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 16:19:22 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 16:19:22 -0500 From: Will Andrews To: Blake Crosby Cc: isp-webhosting@isp-webhosting.com, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Restricting Users Geographically Message-ID: <20020107161922.F73815@squall.waterspout.com> Reply-To: Will Andrews Mail-Followup-To: Blake Crosby , isp-webhosting@isp-webhosting.com, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 01:35:05PM -0500, Blake Crosby wrote: > I currently run the (only) Canadian PostgreSQL www mirror. I am finding > people who aren't in Canada using the mirror, and somewhat bothered by this > fact. > > What I want to do is restrict users so that only Canadian visitors can > access the website. This would be easy if everyone had a .ca ccTLD has their > hostname - but that's not the case :/ > > Is there any way I can restrict users based on geographic location? Either > as an apache module, or some fancy way using IPFW? Why do you want to do this? The USA is pretty close to Canada and we have fast links there too. If you don't like it, try this a multi-tier policy: 1) give all known canadians, eg. *.ca, *.wave.home.com, etc. full access to the server 2) lock out people of other known non-canadian hosts. e.g. *.my, 202.*, *.mx, *.fr, ... 3) b/w limit everyone else. -- wca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 7 13:19:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from matthew.uk1.vbc.net (pc-62-30-74-92-az.blueyonder.co.uk [62.30.74.92]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E412837B404 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 13:19:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jdd@localhost) by matthew.uk1.vbc.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g07LIeV17146; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 21:18:47 GMT (envelope-from jdd@dixons.org) X-Authentication-Warning: matthew.uk1.vbc.net: jdd owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 21:18:39 +0000 (GMT) From: Jim Dixon X-X-Sender: To: Blake Crosby Cc: , Subject: Re: Restricting Users Geographically In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020107211415.Q91853-100000@matthew.uk1.vbc.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Blake Crosby wrote: > I currently run the (only) Canadian PostgreSQL www mirror. I am finding > people who aren't in Canada using the mirror, and somewhat bothered by this > fact. > > What I want to do is restrict users so that only Canadian visitors can > access the website. This would be easy if everyone had a .ca ccTLD has their > hostname - but that's not the case :/ > > Is there any way I can restrict users based on geographic location? Either > as an apache module, or some fancy way using IPFW? This is done by a number of large Web sites, notably the BBC, which has a mirror of their London Web site in New York. Users coming in via the LINX (the London Internet exchange) are served from London; everyone else is served from New York. The basic idea is that the LINX routing tables are made available to the BBC's name servers; if the requesting IP address is in those routing tables, names like www.bbc.co.uk resolve to something at the London Web farm, and otherwise it resolves to a server in New York. Because of asymmetric routing and other factors there is a certain amount of leakage. > Regards, > Blake Crosby > dev@samurai.com -- Jim Dixon jdd@dixons.org tel +44 117 982 0786 mobile +44 797 373 7881 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 7 13:20:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from firehouse.net (dsl-64-130-18-61.telocity.com [64.130.18.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 77B4C37B404 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 13:20:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 90204 invoked by uid 85); 7 Jan 2002 21:20:07 -0000 Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 16:20:06 -0500 From: Alan Clegg To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Restricting Users Geographically Message-ID: <20020107162006.A88249@shell.wetworks.org> References: <10d.b6fcc9b.296b6838@aol.com> <038801c197c0$1ba3f710$d3a1f4cc@rob> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <038801c197c0$1ba3f710$d3a1f4cc@rob>; from rjwsys@uniserve.com on Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 01:13:09PM -0800 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Unless the network is lying to me again, Robert Westendorp said:=20 > Not everyone in Canada speaks or reads French. And, seemingly, not all have a sense of humor. ALanC --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8OhEFyJP8xSfQVdsRAgpMAJsG6LA4qOkSauwqIvAvA8zilzy1DgCfUqrt 73oXZ07ONBOnZDKLNsSS4ig= =wZQh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 7 13:23:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from infiniteloop.ca (infiniteloop.ca [216.126.86.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC05137B417 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 13:23:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by infiniteloop.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0AAF230; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 16:23:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from blake (CPE0050da7c7e5d.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.32.246]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by infiniteloop.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62AC522F; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 16:23:25 -0500 (EST) From: "Blake Crosby" To: "Jim Dixon" , "Blake Crosby" Cc: , Subject: RE: Restricting Users Geographically Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 16:23:25 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20020107211415.Q91853-100000@matthew.uk1.vbc.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20010714 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Someone on another list posted this possible solution: If you have money, I think that Akamai might be able to do this for you. It wouldn't be terribly accurate, but well, that's how those things go. However, this is something that alot of people putting alot of time into developing (judging by recent headlines about gambling sites) . The best way I think you could do this is to get a copy of the radb (www.radb.net, or www.ra.net) get compile a list of ASN's that you think are 'canadian ' enough, and hack together some filters using Zebra (if you can find a peer) whereby you generate ipfw or route filters based upon routing information from your list of 'canadian' ASNs. In fact, you could generate a list of 'canadian' AS's, and write a route map that only accepts routes with an Origin in this list. Make sure that this route map doesn't use a default route, so that incoming traffic from ASN's outside your list won't be reachable. Apply this route map to an the interface/session your mirror is sitting on, and you are good to go. Have I done this? No. Will it work? Probably. > > This is done by a number of large Web sites, notably the BBC, which > has a mirror of their London Web site in New York. Users coming in > via the LINX (the London Internet exchange) are served from London; > everyone else is served from New York. The basic idea is that the > LINX routing tables are made available to the BBC's name servers; > if the requesting IP address is in those routing tables, names like > www.bbc.co.uk resolve to something at the London Web farm, and > otherwise it resolves to a server in New York. Because of asymmetric > routing and other factors there is a certain amount of leakage. > > -- > Jim Dixon jdd@dixons.org > tel +44 117 982 0786 > mobile +44 797 373 7881 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 7 13:26:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from infiniteloop.ca (infiniteloop.ca [216.126.86.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA6A237B416 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 13:26:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by infiniteloop.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB8CF230; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 16:26:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from blake (CPE0050da7c7e5d.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.32.246]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by infiniteloop.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FC0622F; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 16:26:05 -0500 (EST) From: "Blake Crosby" To: "Will Andrews" , "Blake Crosby" Cc: , Subject: RE: Restricting Users Geographically Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 16:26:05 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20020107161922.F73815@squall.waterspout.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20010714 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have no gripe against any one country, there are plenty of mirrors for other countries (including 3 for the usa). I dont see why visitors don't use the mirror for their country, this way, they are forced to. Although this isn't 100% effective, this is the policy that I am currently using: order deny,allow deny from all allow from .ca .com .net .org .edu Blake > Why do you want to do this? The USA is pretty close to Canada > and we have fast links there too. If you don't like it, try this > a multi-tier policy: > > 1) give all known canadians, eg. *.ca, *.wave.home.com, > etc. full access to the server > 2) lock out people of other known non-canadian hosts. > e.g. *.my, 202.*, *.mx, *.fr, ... > 3) b/w limit everyone else. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 7 14:22:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bilver.wjv.com (spdsl-033.wanlogistics.net [63.209.115.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB6CF37B404 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 14:22:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bv@localhost) by bilver.wjv.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g07MMHv98241 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 17:22:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bv) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 17:22:17 -0500 From: Bill Vermillion To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Restricting Users Geographically Message-ID: <20020107222217.GI41572@wjv.com> Reply-To: bv@wjv.com References: <20020107161922.F73815@squall.waterspout.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i Organization: W.J.Vermillion / Orlando - Winter Park Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 04:26:05PM -0500, Blake Crosby thus spoke: > I have no gripe against any one country, there are plenty of > mirrors for other countries (including 3 for the usa). I dont see > why visitors don't use the mirror for their country, this way, > they are forced to. Well the 'country' we are all living in is commonly called planet Earth. I find that for many things I can get data from a European site faster than a US site. This is of course dependant upon the local connections. www.freebsd.org used to be the same as www.cdrom.com on a T3 in California. Now that freebsd.org is in Denmark and on machines owned/operated by the Danish Telephone company - I can get downloads faster from there than some other sites. I could get no more than 35KB/sec when it was in California but I have seen DLS in excess of 175KB/sec coming across the Atlantic. That's about 15% faster than a T1 and a bit slower than an E1. Since you can't control connectivity and network backbone on the way visitors transit to your site why deny them access. Another example is places such as tucows.com. They list states so you are supposed to go to your state sites, but I find I get faster access going to different states - solely because of the network I am on. Speed is what counts. I can also get to some sites across the US faster than sites locally. When in doubt as to where I want to get data from I'll use mtr [Matt's trace route] and I then use that to judge where I'll get data. Just my two cent worth. Bill To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 7 14:36:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from 1nova.com (heorot.1nova.com [63.105.24.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9AE037B404 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 14:36:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 1nova.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DD96E18F1; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 15:36:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by 1nova.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC06118F0; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 15:36:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 15:36:48 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Hamell To: Bill Vermillion Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Restricting Users Geographically In-Reply-To: <20020107222217.GI41572@wjv.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Another example is places such as tucows.com. They list states so > you are supposed to go to your state sites, but I find I get faster > access going to different states - solely because of the network I > am on. Speed is what counts. I can also get to some sites across > the US faster than sites locally. Good example... Tucows BC is always faster for me then the two sites in Oregon. I can't help it if the geographically closest site is being run off a slow connection. (.edu.) I'm two hops off a backbone, and the BC site is two hops off of the same backbone. Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 7 19:44:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [207.200.153.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF26937B405 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 19:44:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from tom (helo=localhost) by misery.sdf.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 16Nma0-0002AR-00; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 19:05:36 -0800 Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 19:05:31 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Samplonius To: Blake Crosby Cc: isp-webhosting@isp-webhosting.com, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Restricting Users Geographically In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Blake Crosby wrote: > I currently run the (only) Canadian PostgreSQL www mirror. I am finding > people who aren't in Canada using the mirror, and somewhat bothered by this > fact. ... I live in Canada, and I don't necessarily agree with that. Canada and the US are part of the same continent, and most of the Canadian population is near the border. For instance, you are located in Toronto, and I'm in Vancouver. For someone in Vancouver, 9 times out of 10, a site in California is going to be faster than anything in Toronto. It is geographically wise and network wise, closer than Toronto. The FreeBSD cvsup mirror in Canada is a good example. It is pretty slow from Vancouver. I'd like to setup another FreeBSD cvsup mirror in Vancouver, Canada, because it would be good for everyone on the west coast. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 7 19:49:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [207.200.153.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E35B37B41A for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 19:49:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from tom (helo=localhost) by misery.sdf.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 16Nmet-0002BZ-00; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 19:10:39 -0800 Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 19:10:27 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Samplonius To: Bill Vermillion Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Restricting Users Geographically In-Reply-To: <20020107222217.GI41572@wjv.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Bill Vermillion wrote: > On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 04:26:05PM -0500, Blake Crosby thus spoke: > > > I have no gripe against any one country, there are plenty of > > mirrors for other countries (including 3 for the usa). I dont see > > why visitors don't use the mirror for their country, this way, > > they are forced to. > > Well the 'country' we are all living in is commonly called planet > Earth. I find that for many things I can get data from a European > site faster than a US site. This is of course dependant upon the ... US and Canada are on the same continent though. Mirrors should probably be setup on a continental basis, rather than a courtry basis. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 7 20: 4:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bilver.wjv.com (spdsl-033.wanlogistics.net [63.209.115.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB56937B404 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 20:04:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bv@localhost) by bilver.wjv.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0843nm00514; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 23:03:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bv) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 23:03:49 -0500 From: Bill Vermillion To: Tom Samplonius Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Restricting Users Geographically Message-ID: <20020108040349.GA433@wjv.com> Reply-To: bv@wjv.com References: <20020107222217.GI41572@wjv.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i Organization: W.J.Vermillion / Orlando - Winter Park Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 07:10:27PM -0800, Tom Samplonius thus spoke: > > On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Bill Vermillion wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 04:26:05PM -0500, Blake Crosby thus spoke: > > > > > I have no gripe against any one country, there are plenty of > > > mirrors for other countries (including 3 for the usa). I dont see > > > why visitors don't use the mirror for their country, this way, > > > they are forced to. > > > > Well the 'country' we are all living in is commonly called planet > > Earth. I find that for many things I can get data from a European > > site faster than a US site. This is of course dependant upon the > ... > US and Canada are on the same continent though. > Mirrors should probably be setup on a continental basis, rather > than a courtry basis. Not neccesarily. The backbone I'm on has terabit links to Europe and some place in Europe are faater to get to than NA link on slower connections such as running only on T1s or T3s. Close made a lot of sense in the early days when much was on leased 56K lines and dialup - but with global links the only criterion should be how fast you can get ot the other site. Some of that will depend entirely on the peering provisions of your provider and the links they use to get onto the major backbones. Bill To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 7 20:34:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from xela.oopz.com (xela.oopz.com [209.20.244.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8A5137B417 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 20:34:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: AUTh with sendmail 8.12.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 20:34:54 -0800 content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.4712.0 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Sendmail issue Thread-Index: AcGXmklVfOPDm2zyQQCzEJnAS5Kr2gAYt3OA From: "Noah Davidson" To: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We have been trying to use sendmail for our outgoing mail server. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 8 2:39:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from relay.office.bezpeka.net (gw.office.bezpeka.net [193.108.112.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A784D37B417 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 02:39:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from vatchenko.office.annaltd.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.office.bezpeka.net (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g08AbJjR007624 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 12:37:20 +0200 (EET) Received: (from admin@localhost) by vatchenko.office.annaltd.com (8.12.0/8.12.0/Submit) id g08AbJLw007623 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 12:37:19 +0200 (EET) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 12:37:19 +0200 From: apache@ukr.net To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AUTh with sendmail 8.12.1 Message-ID: <20020108123719.A699@unixbox.office.annaltd.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from Noah@oopz.com on Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 08:34:54PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org First, you have to compile Cyrus-SASL and install it right place. Then compile Sendmail with SASL support (check README files in sendmail distro). Add users to /etc/sasldb.db and play with it. -- e-mail: apache@ukr.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 8 7: 0:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from infiniteloop.ca (infiniteloop.ca [216.126.86.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C422037B416 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 07:00:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by infiniteloop.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE1623A; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 10:00:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from blake (CPE0050da7c7e5d.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.32.246]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by infiniteloop.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25882236; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 10:00:47 -0500 (EST) From: "Blake Crosby" To: "Tom Samplonius" Cc: , Subject: RE: Restricting Users Geographically Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 10:00:46 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20010714 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org True.. I don't have a problem with Americans visiting the site. I have a problem with Japan being the 4th active country (.ca,.com, .net [in that order), Germany being the 5th and the UK being the 6th. Currently, my policy is the following: if you are NOT .ca .com .net .org. .edu, you can't access the mirror. Granted that doesn't restrict everyone.. it does, however, restrict users who I know with 99% certainty they aren't in Canada. Blake. > I live in Canada, and I don't necessarily agree with that. Canada and > the US are part of the same continent, and most of the Canadian population > is near the border. > > For instance, you are located in Toronto, and I'm in Vancouver. For > someone in Vancouver, 9 times out of 10, a site in California is going to > be faster than anything in Toronto. It is geographically wise and network > wise, closer than Toronto. > > The FreeBSD cvsup mirror in Canada is a good example. It is pretty > slow from Vancouver. I'd like to setup another FreeBSD cvsup mirror in > Vancouver, Canada, because it would be good for everyone on the west > coast. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 8 7:32:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail4.cableaz.com (mail4.cableaz.com [63.241.150.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 992D337B41F for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 07:32:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from caz (proxy.cableaz.com [63.241.150.31] (may be forged)) by mail4.cableaz.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g08FPD082997 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 08:25:13 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from jeremy@cableaz.com) Message-ID: <002501c19859$651571a0$0c0aa8c0@caz> From: "Jeremy Buckner" To: Subject: Layer 7 filters? Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 08:30:25 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does anyone know of a port or package that will allow me to filter and/or throttle at layer 7? My friend showed me a device called the Packetshaper that does it but the price tag is about 30k! Sounds great but too expensive for me. Any thoughts or news of such a development? Jeremy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 8 7:45:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from thor.ghim.org (thor.ghim.org [209.249.182.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 307E037B416 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 07:45:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from aegle (aegle.nexus [192.168.1.128]) by thor.ghim.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g08FjHT21089; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 15:45:17 GMT Received: by aegle (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 8 Jan 2002 15:45:12 +0000 Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 15:45:12 +0000 From: George Lewis To: Jeremy Buckner Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Layer 7 filters? Message-ID: <20020108154512.GA11089@schvin.net> References: <002501c19859$651571a0$0c0aa8c0@caz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <002501c19859$651571a0$0c0aa8c0@caz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3D79 875A 9E33 E7BE E868 7EFA A703 5DDA A7C0 9E2C Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You could use mod_throttle, if your application is http. http://www.bigrock.com/~mlovell/throttle/ Jeremy Buckner (jeremy@cableaz.com) wrote: > Does anyone know of a port or package that will allow me to filter and/or throttle at layer 7? My > friend showed me a device called the Packetshaper that does it but the price tag is about 30k! > Sounds great but too expensive for me. Any thoughts or news of such a development? > > Jeremy > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- http://schvin.net/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 8 8:54:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [207.200.153.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7615837B41D for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 08:54:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from tom (helo=localhost) by misery.sdf.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 16NyuZ-0003kZ-00; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 08:15:39 -0800 Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 08:15:37 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Samplonius To: Jeremy Buckner Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Layer 7 filters? In-Reply-To: <002501c19859$651571a0$0c0aa8c0@caz> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, Jeremy Buckner wrote: > Does anyone know of a port or package that will allow me to filter > and/or throttle at layer 7? My friend showed me a device called the > Packetshaper that does it but the price tag is about 30k! Sounds great > but too expensive for me. Any thoughts or news of such a development? > > Jeremy dummynet can shape to layer 4, which is good for many applications. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 8 11:52:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from db.nexgen.com (db.nexgen.com [66.92.98.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BA15337B41C for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 11:52:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 15585 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2002 19:52:13 -0000 Received: from localhost.nexgen.com (HELO alexus) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.nexgen.com with SMTP; 8 Jan 2002 19:52:13 -0000 Message-ID: <000901c1987e$02041dd0$0d00a8c0@alexus> From: "alexus" To: Subject: apache's web-based statistcs Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 14:52:30 -0500 Organization: NexGen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello I was wondering if someone could suggest me software to process apache's logs in order to make web-based statistics, like one of very popular product WebTrends's products, also since this software will proceed logs and generate statistics, i assume there is no more need for old logs, is there a way to delete whatever this software proceed? some sort of rotate logs? Thank you in advance To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 8 12: 0:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mailer.seidata.com (mail1.seidata.com [206.162.192.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DC6D37B420 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 12:00:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from wopr.seidata.com (wopr.seidata.com [206.162.192.54]) by mailer.seidata.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g08K0Cj07669; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 15:00:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from pboehmer@seidata.com) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 15:00:26 -0500 From: Paul Boehmer To: "alexus" Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: apache's web-based statistcs Message-Id: <20020108150026.6d1eaa55.pboehmer@seidata.com> In-Reply-To: <000901c1987e$02041dd0$0d00a8c0@alexus> References: <000901c1987e$02041dd0$0d00a8c0@alexus> Organization: SEI Data, Inc. X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.6.6 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.5) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We use Webalizer out of the ports collection, /usr/ports/www/webalizer. On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 14:52:30 -0500 "alexus" wrote: > Hello > > I was wondering if someone could suggest me software to process apache's > logs in order to make web-based statistics, like one of very popular product > WebTrends's products, also since this software will proceed logs and > generate statistics, i assume there is no more need for old logs, is there a > way to delete whatever this software proceed? some sort of rotate logs? > > Thank you in advance > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > -- +--------------------------------------------------------+ | Paul Boehmer SEI Data, Inc. | | Systems Administrator 888-200-4392 [V] | | pboehmer@seidata.com 812-744-8000 [F] | +--------------------------------------------------------+ 5 out of 4 people have problems with fractions To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 8 12: 0:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from infiniteloop.ca (infiniteloop.ca [216.126.86.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1848037B400 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 12:00:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by infiniteloop.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1660A230; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 15:00:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from blake (CPE0050da7c7e5d.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.32.246]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by infiniteloop.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9BFE20F; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 15:00:21 -0500 (EST) From: "Blake Crosby" To: "alexus" , Subject: RE: apache's web-based statistcs Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 15:00:21 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <000901c1987e$02041dd0$0d00a8c0@alexus> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20010714 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I use http-analyze: http://www.netstore.de/Supply/http-analyze/ I also wrote a custom perl script to rotate, analyze and process all the log files for each of my customers. Blake > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of alexus > Sent: January 8, 2002 2:53 PM > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: apache's web-based statistcs > > > Hello > > I was wondering if someone could suggest me software to process apache's > logs in order to make web-based statistics, like one of very > popular product > WebTrends's products, also since this software will proceed logs and > generate statistics, i assume there is no more need for old logs, > is there a > way to delete whatever this software proceed? some sort of rotate logs? > > Thank you in advance > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 8 12: 4:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.uniserve.com (mail2.uniserve.com [204.244.156.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B8E837B41A for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 12:04:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from rob.office.uniserve.ca ([204.244.161.211] helo=rob) by mail2.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 16O2UB-0003Ca-00; Tue, 08 Jan 2002 12:04:39 -0800 Message-ID: <022301c1987f$e78e3650$d3a1f4cc@rob> From: "Robert Westendorp" To: "Paul Boehmer" , "alexus" Cc: References: <000901c1987e$02041dd0$0d00a8c0@alexus> <20020108150026.6d1eaa55.pboehmer@seidata.com> Subject: Re: apache's web-based statistcs Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 12:06:02 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Webalizer here too .. it's great :) .. can do squid logs, ftp logs, lots of options :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Boehmer" To: "alexus" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 12:00 PM Subject: Re: apache's web-based statistcs > We use Webalizer out of the ports collection, /usr/ports/www/webalizer. > > > On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 14:52:30 -0500 > "alexus" wrote: > > > Hello > > > > I was wondering if someone could suggest me software to process apache's > > logs in order to make web-based statistics, like one of very popular product > > WebTrends's products, also since this software will proceed logs and > > generate statistics, i assume there is no more need for old logs, is there a > > way to delete whatever this software proceed? some sort of rotate logs? > > > > Thank you in advance > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > -- > +--------------------------------------------------------+ > | Paul Boehmer SEI Data, Inc. | > | Systems Administrator 888-200-4392 [V] | > | pboehmer@seidata.com 812-744-8000 [F] | > +--------------------------------------------------------+ > 5 out of 4 people have problems with fractions > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 8 14:42: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dns.unimayab.edu.mx (dns.unimayab.edu.mx [148.230.236.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95EC937B422 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 14:41:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from exchange.unimayab.edu.mx ([172.21.14.24]) by dns.unimayab.edu.mx (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g08MglC99479 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 16:42:47 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dperez@unimayab.edu.mx) Received: by EXCHANGE with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 16:40:33 -0600 Message-ID: <81C8CA3C286FD511A959000102C9B2CE760390@EXCHANGE> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Alberth_David_P=E9rez_Marfil?= To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Migration of a complete system Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 16:40:33 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi list, i need to move all users and aplication (Apache, Samba, Sendmail, postgreSQL) to a new box. what is the best way to doit with out stop the service? Regards David P=E9rez To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 8 15:12:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.ulstu.ru (ns.ulstu.ru [62.76.34.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B955E37B419 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 15:12:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by ns.ulstu.ru (Postfix-ULSTU, from userid 3909) id 3232A10787A; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 02:12:06 +0300 (MSK) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 02:12:06 +0300 From: zhuravlev alexander To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Migration of a complete system Message-ID: <20020109021206.A86939@ulstu.ru> Reply-To: zhuravlev alexander Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG References: <81C8CA3C286FD511A959000102C9B2CE760390@EXCHANGE> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <81C8CA3C286FD511A959000102C9B2CE760390@EXCHANGE> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 04:40:33PM -0600, Alberth David P?rez Marfil wrote: > Hi list, > i need to move all users and aplication (Apache, Samba, Sendmail, > postgreSQL) to a new box. > what is the best way to doit with out stop the service? > Regards > David P?rez > man dump man restore > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- zhuravlev alexander u l s t u c t c e-mail:zaa@ulstu.ru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 8 16:49: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net (bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net [212.100.160.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07BC137B416 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 16:49:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from 213-193-182-62.adsl.easynet.be ([213.193.182.62] helo=krijt.dyn.dhs.org) by bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 16O6vF-0004HP-00 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 09 Jan 2002 01:48:53 +0100 Received: (from wim@localhost) by krijt.dyn.dhs.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id g090nEV63967 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 01:49:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wim) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 01:49:13 +0100 From: Wim Livens To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: root without password ? Message-ID: <20020109004913.GB54233@krijt.livens.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a backoffice multiuser system with "friendly" users, most of which need root access quite often. In order not having them to type the root password all the time when doing su, I thought of using a passwordless root account. Would that be a stupid thing to do (security-wise) if the following conditions are met: - only users that need root access belong to the wheel group - you can't login as root directly via telnet (default settings) - you can't login as root via ftp (default settings) - no other services are enabled in inetd.conf regards, -- Wim Livens. C o l t B e l g i u m "In a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and gates?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 8 16:57:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from giroc.albury.net.au (giroc.albury.NET.AU [203.15.244.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B868937B41A for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 16:57:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from giroc.albury.net.au (giroc.albury.net.au [203.15.244.13]) by giroc.albury.net.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g090vYG03264; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 11:57:34 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 11:57:34 +1100 (EST) From: X-X-Sender: To: Wim Livens Cc: Subject: Re: root without password ? In-Reply-To: <20020109004913.GB54233@krijt.livens.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Wim Livens wrote: > In order not having them to type the root password all the time when > doing su, I thought of using a passwordless root account. > > Would that be a stupid thing to do (security-wise) if the following > conditions are met: I don't recall where I found it, but a snippet from my sudoers file: PEOPLE MACHINES = NOPASSWD: COMMANDS I can't see mention of NOPASSWD in the man page, but it works for me. YMMV. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 8 17: 6:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hawk-systems.com (hawk-systems.com [161.58.152.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83AA137B421 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 17:06:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from cr159591a (CPE00a00cc12af5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.102.18.54]) by hawk-systems.com (8.11.6) id g0916RK96134 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 18:06:29 -0700 (MST) From: dave@hawk-systems.com (Dave) To: Subject: RE: root without password ? Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 20:11:12 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20020109004913.GB54233@krijt.livens.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org personally it raises warning flags with me... my first instinct would be if you want to do this, then set up ssh access only and/or restrict access based on encryption keys or IP address. Any of these users saving a password on a desktop or something could comprimise the system... perhaps I am being too paranoid though. Dave >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Wim Livens >Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 7:49 PM >To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: root without password ? > > > >I have a backoffice multiuser system with "friendly" users, most of >which need root access quite often. > >In order not having them to type the root password all the time when >doing su, I thought of using a passwordless root account. > >Would that be a stupid thing to do (security-wise) if the following >conditions are met: > >- only users that need root access belong to the wheel group >- you can't login as root directly via telnet (default settings) >- you can't login as root via ftp (default settings) >- no other services are enabled in inetd.conf > >regards, > >-- >Wim Livens. >C o l t B e l g i u m >"In a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and gates?" > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 8 17:11:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gizmo.internode.com.au (gizmo.internode.com.au [192.83.231.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EAAF37B404 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 17:11:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from newton@localhost) by gizmo.internode.com.au (8.11.0/8.9.3) id g091AxN61408; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 11:40:59 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from newton) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 11:40:59 +1030 From: Mark Newton To: Wim Livens Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: root without password ? Message-ID: <20020109114059.A61362@internode.com.au> References: <20020109004913.GB54233@krijt.livens.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <20020109004913.GB54233@krijt.livens.net> X-PGP-Key: http://www.on.net/~newton/pgpkey.txt Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 01:49:13AM +0100, Wim Livens wrote: > In order not having them to type the root password all the time when > doing su, I thought of using a passwordless root account. Don't do it, it's a stupid idea. If you *really* want the ability to get root access on demand without having to type a password 50,000 times per day, do this: tcsh% su Password: tcsh# suspend Suspended tcsh% jobs [1] + Suspended su tcsh% fg su tcsh# So - su to root and type the password once. When you're finished with privilieges, type "suspend" to go back to normal privileges. When you need root privs again, type "fg". Just make sure you're careful with screen locks on any terminals used by sysadmins. - mark -- Mark Newton Email: newton@internode.com.au (W) Network Engineer Email: newton@atdot.dotat.org (H) Internode Systems Pty Ltd Desk: +61-8-82232999 "Network Man" - Anagram of "Mark Newton" Mobile: +61-416-202-223 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 8 17:15:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from jhs.muc.de (jhs.muc.de [193.149.49.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9BB637B41B for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 17:15:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from park.jhs.private (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jhs.muc.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g08NXLn49145; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 23:33:21 GMT (envelope-from jhs@park.jhs.private) Message-Id: <200201082333.g08NXLn49145@jhs.muc.de> To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Cc: bv@wjv.com Subject: Re: Restricting Users Geographically In-Reply-To: Message from Bill Vermillion of "Mon, 07 Jan 2002 23:03:49 EST." <20020108040349.GA433@wjv.com> Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 00:33:21 +0100 From: Julian Stacey Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bill Vermillion wrote: > > Mirrors should probably be setup on a continental basis, rather > > than a courtry basis. > > Not neccesarily. The backbone I'm on has terabit links to Europe > and some place in Europe are faater to get to than NA link on > slower connections such as running only on T1s or T3s. Yes, I've been wondering for a year or 2 now when someone might want to enhance `fetch` to take into account accumulated & current net heurisitics, to make sensible local decisions about where to try first to fetch source distfiles/ for the stuff in /usr/ports/ I'm too busy/lazy to do it myself, but if someone feels the urge ... :-) Julian J.Stacey Munich Unix (FreeBSD, Linux etc) Independent Consultant Reduce costs to secure jobs: Use free software: http://bim.bsn.com/~jhs/free/ Ihr Rauchen = mein allergischer Kopfschmerz ! Schnupftabak probieren ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 8 17:18:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from db.nexgen.com (db.nexgen.com [66.92.98.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EFB8437B43A for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 17:18:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 19064 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2002 01:17:30 -0000 Received: from localhost.nexgen.com (HELO alexus) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.nexgen.com with SMTP; 9 Jan 2002 01:17:30 -0000 Message-ID: <006401c198ab$7dea6f30$0100a8c0@alexus> From: "alexus" To: "Joe White" Cc: References: <000901c1987e$02041dd0$0d00a8c0@alexus> <002d01c1989f$25dc9680$0a800a0a@edgehosting.com> Subject: Re: apache's web-based statistcs Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 20:18:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I know what webalizer is, I use it too, I guess the reason why I post this threat is hoping to get something better, or at least some other options besides webalizer.. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe White" To: "alexus" Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 6:49 PM Subject: Re: apache's web-based statistcs > I know a couple people have already suggested webalizer, and so will I. You > can grab it from www.mrunix.com/webalizer and also check out the actual > usage at www.edgehosting.com/webalizer > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "alexus" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 2:52 PM > Subject: apache's web-based statistcs > > > > Hello > > > > I was wondering if someone could suggest me software to process apache's > > logs in order to make web-based statistics, like one of very popular > product > > WebTrends's products, also since this software will proceed logs and > > generate statistics, i assume there is no more need for old logs, is there > a > > way to delete whatever this software proceed? some sort of rotate logs? > > > > Thank you in advance > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 8 17:18:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from lemon.national.com.au (lemon.national.com.au [203.57.241.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4798A37B41D for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 17:18:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by lemon.national.com.au (Postfix, from userid 5) id AB6899F81A; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 12:18:36 +1100 (EST) Received: from unknown(10.25.154.32) by lemon.national.com.au via csmap (V4.1) id srcAAAaBayHP; Wed, 9 Jan 02 12:18:36 +1100 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by peppermint.national.com.au (8.9.3+Sun/8.8.8) id MAA18103; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 12:18:24 +1100 (EST) Received: from webjump.national.com.au(164.53.27.38) via SMTP by peppermint, id smtpdAAAhZaawJ; Wed Jan 9 12:18:17 2002 Received: (from nconedd@localhost) by webjump.national.com.au (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) id g091IE819562; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 12:18:14 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 12:18:14 +1100 From: Enno Davids To: Blake Crosby Cc: Tom Samplonius , isp-webhosting@isp-webhosting.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Restricting Users Geographically Message-ID: <20020109121814.E13438@webjump.national.com.au> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from dev@samurai.com on Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 10:00:46AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 10:00:46AM -0500, Blake Crosby wrote: |True.. I don't have a problem with Americans visiting the site. I have a |problem with Japan being the 4th active country (.ca,.com, .net [in that |order), Germany being the 5th and the UK being the 6th. | |Currently, my policy is the following: | |if you are NOT .ca .com .net .org. .edu, you can't access the mirror. |Granted that doesn't restrict everyone.. it does, however, restrict users |who I know with 99% certainty they aren't in Canada. While I can see some small argument for your position, isn't part of deal for being a mirror also to be available when the main site is down. If clients from far away get better service from you than their closest mirror, then what is the argument against their using your site? (Their mirror may be overloaded and once again as a mirror you're there to share the load no?) Are you paying a premium for their bandwidth compared to (more) local traffic? What is the driver here? Not sure I see the point of advertising you as a mirror when you're only prepared to serve a small percentage of the world's population. Not sure I see the utility of a server that doesn't want to serve.... (but it does make a nice existentialist dilemma!) Enno. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 8 17:31:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mrdida.yi.org (dial093.infolink.com.br [200.255.108.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0E3237B429 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 17:31:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from academica01.gmx.net (academica01 [192.168.0.2]) by mrdida.yi.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CE9624DA for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 20:59:26 -0200 (BRST) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.2.20020108193031.0416be18@pop.openlink.com.br> X-Sender: mrdida@gmx.net@mail.gmx.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 20:57:31 -0300 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Angelo Subject: correct permission to /var/mail Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello I'd like to ask you what's the correct permission to /var/mail files in Freebsd box ? Let me explain what's happening to my pop3 server..when I try to access an account, and try to delete a messages, I have a error message talking about mailbox locking ( This server is being prepared, it isnt in production yet ) [8:34pm] newfw[/root> telnet localhost 110 Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost.mrdida.yi.org. Escape character is '^]'. +OK Cubic Circle's v1.31 1998/05/13 POP3 ready user maint +OK maint selected pass ************ +OK Congratulations! list +OK 1 messages (628 octets) 1 628 . dele 1 +OK Message 1 deleted quit -ERR Error locking your mailbox Connection closed by foreign host. All maiboxes are in chmod 600 .. but I've already had tried 660, 775, 777 and so.. but was failed. By the way.. I have another server ( linux ) running the same softwares ( postfix / cucipop ) almost same configure, all mailboxes in chmod 660 work fine. In freebsd 4.2 box, doesnt work. the user.lock couldnt be created [8:35pm] newfw[/root> total 5 -rw------- 1 maint mail 447 Jan 8 20:21 maint -rw------- 1 mrdida mail 930 Jan 8 19:03 mrdida -rw------- 1 root mail 1855 Jan 8 19:03 root [8:36pm] newfw[/root> I've already had tried chmod permission, like 660, 775, 777 ( yeah! ) but was failed. By the way.. I have another server ( linux ) running the same softwares ( postfix / cucipop ) almost same configure, all mailboxes in chmod 660 work fine. So, when I create an account using the Freebsd adduser script.. have this strange output: /var/mail -rw------- 1 teste teste 0 Jan 8 20:34 teste same group and owner.. instead of being mail group.. Any ideas ? could u help me ? That system is freebsd 4.2 regards, Angelo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 8 18:30:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from proverbs.outreachnetworks.com (proverbs.outreachnetworks.com [65.196.249.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 120EF37B420 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 18:30:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 48823 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2002 02:30:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phoncella.outreachnetworks.com) (64.108.58.104) by proverbs.outreachnetworks.com with SMTP; 9 Jan 2002 02:30:30 -0000 Received: (from elh@localhost) by phoncella.outreachnetworks.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g092UU003325 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 21:30:30 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: phoncella.outreachnetworks.com: elh set sender to elh@outreachnetworks.com using -f Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 21:30:30 -0500 From: "Eric L. Howard" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: root without password ? Message-ID: <20020108213030.A2768@outreachnetworks.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020109004913.GB54233@krijt.livens.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020109004913.GB54233@krijt.livens.net>; from wim@livens.net on Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 01:49:13AM +0100 Favorite-Scripture: Romans 8:18 Theocratic-Rule-Advocate: http://www.crossmovement.com Registered-Secret-Agent: Agent Double-Naught Seven Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At a certain time, now past, Wim Livens spake thusly: > > I have a backoffice multiuser system with "friendly" users, most of > which need root access quite often. > > In order not having them to type the root password all the time when > doing su, I thought of using a passwordless root account. > > Would that be a stupid thing to do (security-wise) if the following > conditions are met: > > - only users that need root access belong to the wheel group > - you can't login as root directly via telnet (default settings) > - you can't login as root via ftp (default settings) > - no other services are enabled in inetd.conf Bad idea....IMO. My man page from sudo says... --------8<--snip-------- Once a user has been authenticated, a timestamp is updated and the user may then use sudo without a password for a short period of time (five minutes by default). --------8<--snip-------- You should be able to make something work with that... ~elh -- Eric L. Howard e l h @ o u t r e a c h n e t w o r k s . c o m ------------------------------------------------------------------------ www.OutreachNetworks.com 313.297.9900 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Advocate of the Theocratic Rule To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 8 18:31:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from wizard.teksupport.net.au (wizard.teksupport.net.au [203.17.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0F8437B420 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 18:31:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from warlock (portcullis2.teksupport.net.au [203.17.1.10]) by wizard.teksupport.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA23831 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 13:31:05 +1100 (EST) From: "Rob Secombe" To: Subject: RE: root without password ? Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 13:30:09 +1100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20020109114059.A61362@internode.com.au> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I use "screen" in the ports/packages. I setup one screen "sued" to root and several other "user" screens for various day to activities. The beauty of this is that you leave things running while you change screens or detach, go home and re-attach and everything is still percolating along. I can't live without it. Cheers Rob. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Mark Newton Sent: Wednesday, 9 January 2002 12:11 PM To: Wim Livens Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: root without password ? On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 01:49:13AM +0100, Wim Livens wrote: > In order not having them to type the root password all the time when > doing su, I thought of using a passwordless root account. Don't do it, it's a stupid idea. If you *really* want the ability to get root access on demand without having to type a password 50,000 times per day, do this: tcsh% su Password: tcsh# suspend Suspended tcsh% jobs [1] + Suspended su tcsh% fg su tcsh# So - su to root and type the password once. When you're finished with privilieges, type "suspend" to go back to normal privileges. When you need root privs again, type "fg". Just make sure you're careful with screen locks on any terminals used by sysadmins. - mark -- Mark Newton Email: newton@internode.com.au (W) Network Engineer Email: newton@atdot.dotat.org (H) Internode Systems Pty Ltd Desk: +61-8-82232999 "Network Man" - Anagram of "Mark Newton" Mobile: +61-416-202-223 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 8 19: 6:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from backup.dagupan.com (www.psysc.org.ph [206.101.69.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2F8E37B416 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 19:06:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by apmail.dagupan.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 11:06:30 +0800 Message-ID: <10F29E27A956D511B0940050DA8D86A9340DA8@apmail.dagupan.com> From: francisv@dagupan.com To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Global load balancing Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 11:06:23 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I'm looking for a global load balancing tool to load balance HTTP traffic on servers located in different ISPs or data centers. --- francis a. vidal [bitstop network services] | http://www.dagupan.com streaming media + web hosting | http://www.keystone.ph v(02)330-2871,(02)330-2872; f(02)330-2873 | http://www.kuro.ph To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 8 19: 9:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ideal.net.au (ion.ideal.net.au [203.20.241.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4C4637B429 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 19:08:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from carbon.ideal.net.au (carbon.staff.ideal.net.au [202.3.35.6]) by mail.ideal.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA57582 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 14:08:45 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter@ideal.net.au) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020109140836.02a57608@mail.ideal.net.au> X-Sender: peter@mail.ideal.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 14:08:44 +1100 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Peter MacGee Subject: RE: root without password ? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 01:30 PM 9/01/2002 +1100, you wrote: >Hi, > >I use "screen" in the ports/packages. I setup one screen "sued" to root and >several other "user" screens for various day to activities. The beauty of >this is that you leave things running while you change screens or detach, go >home and re-attach and everything is still percolating along. I can't live >without it. Ditto what Rob said... Screen is one of my "Must Install" (tm) packages... :-) screen -x can be brilliant to help newbies learn remotely too. They can see what you're doing and learn from that while you can be round the other side of the planet. 'Tis brilliant to say the least. Regards, Pete. -- Computers are just like air conditioners; They don't work properly if you open Windows. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 8 19:34: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from inet03.citec.qld.gov.au (inet03.citec.qld.gov.au [203.5.10.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DB9437B404 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 19:34:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by inet03.citec.qld.gov.au; id NAA08909; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 13:33:53 +1000 (EST) Received: from citecub.citec.qld.gov.au( 131.242.4.98) by inet03.citec.qld.gov.au via smap (V2.0) id xma007967; Wed, 9 Jan 02 13:33:22 +1000 Received: from guru.citec.qld.gov.au by citecub.citec.qld.gov.au (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA07172; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 13:33:22 +1000 Received: from localhost (sgcccdc@localhost) by guru.citec.qld.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA20470; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 13:33:21 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from sgcccdc@citec.qld.gov.au) X-Authentication-Warning: guru.citec.qld.gov.au: sgcccdc owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 13:33:21 +1000 (EST) From: Colin Campbell To: Angelo Cc: Subject: Re: correct permission to /var/mail In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.2.20020108193031.0416be18@pop.openlink.com.br> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, It's not the permissions on /var/mail itself that's the problem is it? How does the pop server lock the mailbox. I know/think some create a file and if /var/mail isn't writabel, that's going to fail. Try using ktrace on the pop daemon/inetd or whatever launches it. That should show you what's failing. Colin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 8 20:22:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mrdida.yi.org (dial647.infolink.com.br [200.255.51.247]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C81C137B420 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 20:22:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from academica01.gmx.net (academica01 [192.168.0.2]) by mrdida.yi.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD9AF24DA; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 01:03:14 -0200 (BRST) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.2.20020109020456.02cdfde0@mail.gmx.net> X-Sender: mrdida@gmx.net@mail.gmx.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 02:08:23 -0300 To: Colin Campbell From: Angelo Subject: Re: correct permission to /var/mail Cc: In-Reply-To: References: <5.0.0.25.2.20020108193031.0416be18@pop.openlink.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 13:33 9/1/2002 +1000, Colin Campbell wrote: >Hi, > >It's not the permissions on /var/mail itself that's the problem is it? How >does the pop server lock the mailbox. I know/think some create a file and >if /var/mail isn't writabel, that's going to fail. Try using ktrace on the >pop daemon/inetd or whatever launches it. That should show you what's >failing. > >Colin Hi Colin Thanks for sugestion of ktrace I used this to find out anything.. so, after using kdump, I found this [12:58am] newfw[/root> kdump 711 cucipop RET accept 1 711 cucipop CALL wait4(0xffffffff,0,0x1,0) 711 cucipop RET wait4 -1 errno 10 No child processes 711 cucipop CALL fork 711 cucipop RET fork 720/0x2d0 711 cucipop CALL close(0x1) 711 cucipop RET close 0 711 cucipop CALL chdir(0x804d133) 711 cucipop NAMI "/var/spool/cucipop/bulletins" 711 cucipop RET chdir -1 errno 2 No such file or directory 711 cucipop CALL chdir(0x804d2b8) 711 cucipop NAMI "/" 711 cucipop RET chdir 0 711 cucipop CALL wait4(0xffffffff,0,0x1,0) 711 cucipop RET wait4 0 711 cucipop CALL accept(0,0x804f180,0xbfbffb54) 711 cucipop RET accept 1 711 cucipop CALL wait4(0xffffffff,0,0x1,0) 711 cucipop RET wait4 720/0x2d0 711 cucipop CALL wait4(0xffffffff,0,0x1,0) 711 cucipop RET wait4 -1 errno 10 No child processes 711 cucipop CALL fork 711 cucipop RET fork 728/0x2d8 711 cucipop CALL close(0x1) 711 cucipop RET close 0 711 cucipop CALL chdir(0x804d133) 711 cucipop NAMI "/var/spool/cucipop/bulletins" 711 cucipop RET chdir -1 errno 2 No such file or directory 711 cucipop CALL chdir(0x804d2b8) 711 cucipop NAMI "/" 711 cucipop RET chdir 0 711 cucipop CALL wait4(0xffffffff,0,0x1,0) 711 cucipop RET wait4 0 711 cucipop CALL accept(0,0x804f180,0xbfbffb54) [12:59am] newfw[/root> I think, an error ocurs when it tries to open a /var/spool/cucipop/bulletins ?? Im not sure what is this regards Angelo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 8 20:51:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from inet03.citec.qld.gov.au (inet03.citec.qld.gov.au [203.5.10.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81D4E37B404 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 20:51:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by inet03.citec.qld.gov.au; id OAA25071; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 14:51:30 +1000 (EST) Received: from citecub.citec.qld.gov.au( 131.242.4.98) by inet03.citec.qld.gov.au via smap (V2.0) id xma024818; Wed, 9 Jan 02 14:51:20 +1000 Received: from guru.citec.qld.gov.au by citecub.citec.qld.gov.au (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA04148; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 14:51:19 +1000 Received: from localhost (sgcccdc@localhost) by guru.citec.qld.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA20718; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 14:50:14 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from sgcccdc@citec.qld.gov.au) X-Authentication-Warning: guru.citec.qld.gov.au: sgcccdc owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 14:50:13 +1000 (EST) From: Colin Campbell To: Angelo Cc: Subject: Re: correct permission to /var/mail In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.2.20020109020456.02cdfde0@mail.gmx.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Angelo wrote: > At 13:33 9/1/2002 +1000, Colin Campbell wrote: > >Hi, > > > >It's not the permissions on /var/mail itself that's the problem is it? How > >does the pop server lock the mailbox. I know/think some create a file and > >if /var/mail isn't writabel, that's going to fail. Try using ktrace on the > >pop daemon/inetd or whatever launches it. That should show you what's > >failing. > > > >Colin > > Hi Colin > > Thanks for sugestion of ktrace > I think, an error ocurs when it tries to open a > /var/spool/cucipop/bulletins ?? Im not sure what is this It certainly does get an error: it's a directory that doesn't exist. I have no idea what it's for though. You probably need "-i" on the ktrace to follow the forked processes. You will also need to locate the section of the dump where the error message about failure to lock is occurring. Colin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 8 20:55:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from infiniteloop.ca (infiniteloop.ca [216.126.86.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A2D037B416 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 20:55:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by infiniteloop.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA2BE230; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 23:55:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mia.samurai.com (xtreme9-251.aci.on.ca [209.50.83.251]) (using SSLv3 with cipher DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by infiniteloop.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8480B20F; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 23:55:27 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020108234616.02a93008@mailbox.samurai.com> X-Sender: (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 23:54:29 -0500 To: Enno Davids From: Blake Crosby Subject: Re: Restricting Users Geographically Cc: Tom Samplonius , isp-webhosting@isp-webhosting.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20020109121814.E13438@webjump.national.com.au> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20010714 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 12:18 PM 2002/01/09 +1100, Enno Davids wrote: >Not sure I see the point of advertising you as a mirror when you're only >prepared to serve a small percentage of the world's population. Not sure I >see the utility of a server that doesn't want to serve.... (but it does >make a nice existentialist dilemma!) Perhaps its more of a personal choice.. hmm The thing that bothers me is this...My webserver has a finite of resources. When someone, say, from Japan (which there are three mirrors for) access the mirror, they are using resources for potential Canadians to use. I want to contribute to the project, but I cannot afford hundreds of dollars a month to keep the mirror up - so I bandwidth limited traffic. So not only are server resources being taxed by non Candians, bandwidth is as well. This way, Canadians have exclusive access to the mirror. (well anyone with a .com .net .org .edu domain name as well). The non canadians can use one of the many mirrors in the USA or their home country. Blake Crosby dev@samurai.com http://www.blakecrosby.com "It's good to see that you haven't lost your talent for saying something so completely outrageously false it defies any possible retort." - Mike Hodnett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 8 22:20:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1365037B404 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 22:20:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from G6200 ([65.3.36.10]) by femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20020109062015.LKHN16621.femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com@G6200> for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 22:20:15 -0800 From: "Don Reaves" Cc: Subject: RE: correct permission to /var/mail Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 00:16:40 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.2.20020109020456.02cdfde0@mail.gmx.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The bulletins directory is for automatic broadcast of email to any client. > > I think, an error ocurs when it tries to open a > /var/spool/cucipop/bulletins ?? Im not sure what is this > Don Reaves W5OR R-390 list manager CCA AMI ARRL LM www.militaryradio.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 8 22:54: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from grif.newmail.ru (grif.newmail.ru [212.48.140.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B9DCF37B404 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 22:54:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 32093 invoked by alias); 9 Jan 2002 06:54:03 -0000 Message-ID: <20020109065403.32089.qmail@grif.newmail.ru> From: "Andrew Karjagin" To: sgcccdc@citec.qld.gov.au Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Reply-To: Subject: Re: correct permission to /var/mail Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 09:54:03 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-UID: 1-7067 X-Originating-IP: [212.42.53.200] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have the same problem with cucipop at FreeBSD 3.3 version from ports. I am update it by stable version and it worked fine. Try get it stable port from: http://ftp.chg.ru:8000/ftpsearch? query=cucipop&doit=Search&type=Case+insensitive+substring+se arch&hits=250&matches=&hitsprmatch=&limdom=&limpath=&f1=Coun t&f2=Mode&f3=Size&f4=Date&f5=Host&f6=Path&header=none&sort=n one&trlen=20 __________ www.newmail.ru -- îÏ×ÁÑ ðÏÞÔÁ: ×ÓÅ ÐÏ ÎÏ×ÏÍÕ. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 8 22:58:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from haggis.it.ca (haggis.it.ca [216.126.86.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDEF437B402 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 22:58:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from paul@localhost) by haggis.it.ca (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g096wNw26123; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 01:58:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from paul) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 01:58:23 -0500 From: Paul Chvostek To: isp-webhosting@isp-webhosting.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Restricting Users Geographically Message-ID: <20020109015823.A25751@mail.it.ca> References: <20020109121814.E13438@webjump.national.com.au> <5.1.0.14.2.20020108234616.02a93008@mailbox.samurai.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020108234616.02a93008@mailbox.samurai.com>; from dev@samurai.com on Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 11:54:29PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 11:54:29PM -0500, Blake Crosby wrote: > > The thing that bothers me is this...My webserver has a finite of resources. > When someone, say, from Japan (which there are three mirrors for) access > the mirror, they are using resources for potential Canadians to use. Potential Canadians (as well as established ones) are equally free to use a Japanese mirror if the resources of a local one are full. Most mirrors put limits on the number of simultaneous connections. You could too. And if a Canadian can't grab data from your host, he'll check for another that's less full. The reality of the 'Net is that physical location often bears little on how "close" hosts are to each other. It was worse years ago, but I still see traceroutes across town that go through three or four US cities, and traceroutes to other continents with hop counts in the single digits. > I want to contribute to the project, but I cannot afford hundreds of > dollars a month to keep the mirror up Good point. That reminds me.... ;-) > - so I bandwidth limited traffic. So > not only are server resources being taxed by non Candians, bandwidth is as > well. Very patriotic, but why would it be more appropriate for you to serve content to a Sprint-connected host in Kelowna than a Reptiles-connected host in Pakistan? The distribution of resources, if done using any mechanism besides random chance, should be done in such a way as to reduce overall traffic. > This way, Canadians have exclusive access to the mirror. (well anyone with > a .com .net .org .edu domain name as well). The non canadians can use one > of the many mirrors in the USA or their home country. And hosts without valid reverse DNS are presumably out of luck as well. The bandwidth limitation idea seemed like a good one. You're running FreeBSD, right? (Lemme check the console ... yeah.) So do some of your own traffic shaping. If you want a dedicated IP address for your mirror, ask your ISP; they can certainly accomodate your request, perhaps even at no charge. Then use do something like: ipfw pipe 10 config bw 64 kbps ipfw add 250 add pipe 10 ip from www2.ca.postgresql.org to 210.0.0.0/7 out ipfw add 250 add pipe 10 ip from www2.ca.postgresql.org to 193.0.0.0/8 out ipfw add 250 add pipe 10 ip from www2.ca.postgresql.org to 194.0.0.0/7 out etc. I'm sure that with a little research in your logs (or at ARIN et al) you will have the bulk of the overseas stuff covered. Alternately.... For every inbound connection, let 'em log on and start some traffic. For every new connection, launch a background process which looks up the IP address at whois.ra.net and whois.arin.net. Take the first line from ra.net with the word "origin:", and that's supposed to be the AS number that's responsible for routing. Look up that ASN at whois.arin.net, and if the result does not include the regexp /\/, null route 'em. Or ipfw deny their traffic. And store the result in a local db for quicker lookup next time that host connects. (Don't just store the IP, instead store the CIDR block that was given in the first line of output from whois.ra.net.) And if after all that you feel that the time to develop all this has been well spent, you must be paying too much for your bandwidth. ;-) -- Paul Chvostek Operations / Development / Abuse / Whatever vox: +1 416 598-0000 it.canada http://www.it.ca/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 9 1:27:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from relay2.agava.net.ru (ofc.agava.net [213.59.3.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2472637B41E for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 01:27:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from hellbell.domain (hellbell.domain [192.168.1.12]) by relay2.agava.net.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A66666B84 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 12:26:54 +0300 (MSK) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hellbell.domain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F0B2CD0C for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 12:26:55 +0300 (MSK) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 12:26:55 +0300 (MSK) From: Alexey Zakirov X-X-Sender: Cc: Subject: Re: Global load balancing In-Reply-To: <10F29E27A956D511B0940050DA8D86A9340DA8@apmail.dagupan.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 9 Jan 2002 francisv@dagupan.com wrote: > I'm looking for a global load balancing tool to load balance HTTP traffic on > servers located in different ISPs or data centers. take a look at http://eddie.sourceforge.net/. It has an ability to balance across the internet. *** WBR, Alexey Zakirov (frank@agava.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 9 2: 9: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from web20103.mail.yahoo.com (web20103.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1708C37B417 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 02:08:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020109100859.37375.qmail@web20103.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [193.227.212.160] by web20103.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 09 Jan 2002 11:08:59 CET Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 11:08:59 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Fabrizio=20Ravazzini?= Subject: Re: Global load balancing To: francisv@dagupan.com Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <10F29E27A956D511B0940050DA8D86A9340DA8@apmail.dagupan.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, have a look at: loadbalance.sourceforge.net or dns round robin tecnique regards --- francisv@dagupan.com ha scritto: > Hi, > > I'm looking for a global load balancing tool to load > balance HTTP traffic on > servers located in different ISPs or data centers. > > --- > francis a. vidal [bitstop network services] | > http://www.dagupan.com > streaming media + web hosting | > http://www.keystone.ph > v(02)330-2871,(02)330-2872; f(02)330-2873 | > http://www.kuro.ph > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message ______________________________________________________________________ Iscriviti al gruppo ufficiale di Tomb Raider: http://it.groups.yahoo.com/group/gruppoufficiale_tombraider/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 9 6:47: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from infiniteloop.ca (infiniteloop.ca [216.126.86.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 675C737B400 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 06:46:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by infiniteloop.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id B325120F; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 09:46:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from blake (CPE0050da7c7e5d.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.32.246]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by infiniteloop.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04BD820C; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 09:46:52 -0500 (EST) From: "Blake Crosby" To: "Paul Chvostek" Cc: , Subject: RE: Restricting Users Geographically Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 09:46:51 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20020109015823.A25751@mail.it.ca> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20010714 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > This way, Canadians have exclusive access to the mirror. (well > anyone with > > a .com .net .org .edu domain name as well). The non canadians > can use one > > of the many mirrors in the USA or their home country. > > And hosts without valid reverse DNS are presumably out of luck as well. > Yes and no. I have added net blocks that I know off the top of my head to be of Canadian origin. The 403 error has my email address where people can request that their netblock be added, a few have already done so. > The bandwidth limitation idea seemed like a good one. You're running > FreeBSD, right? (Lemme check the console ... yeah.) So do some of > your own traffic shaping. If you want a dedicated IP address for your > mirror, ask your ISP; they can certainly accomodate your request, > perhaps even at no charge. Then use do something like: > Already done, and is being used for another mirror. Right now users are redirected to port 81, where traffic is being shaped there. > > I'm sure that with a little research in your logs (or at ARIN et al) you > will have the bulk of the overseas stuff covered. > > Alternately.... > > For every inbound connection, let 'em log on and start some traffic. For > every new connection, launch a background process which looks up the IP > address at whois.ra.net and whois.arin.net. Take the first line from > ra.net with the word "origin:", and that's supposed to be the AS number > that's responsible for routing. Look up that ASN at whois.arin.net, and > if the result does not include the regexp /\/, null route > 'em. Or ipfw deny their traffic. And store the result in a local db > for quicker lookup next time that host connects. (Don't just store the > IP, instead store the CIDR block that was given in the first line of > output from whois.ra.net.) I dont think I am going to go that far. the Geo::IP perl module pretty much already has a database of locations to IP addresses that is updated every month. Using mod_perl, I can probably write a small perl script to take a look at the ip address look up the country then either display an error message or show them the mirrors' web pages. > And if after all that you feel that the time to develop all this has > been well spent, you must be paying too much for your bandwidth. ;-) Hey, its a learning experience :) I'm up for the challenge! Blake To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 9 6:56:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sanyu1.sanyutel.com (sanyu1.sanyutel.com [216.250.215.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1524C37B41C for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 06:56:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sanyu1.sanyutel.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 622721A5879; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 17:58:14 +0300 (EAT) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 17:58:14 +0300 (EAT) From: X-X-Sender: To: alexus Cc: Joe White , Subject: Re: apache's web-based statistcs In-Reply-To: <006401c198ab$7dea6f30$0100a8c0@alexus> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I used to use webalizer but I found awstats to be much better. You can find it at http://freshmeat.net Noah. On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, alexus wrote: > I know what webalizer is, I use it too, I guess the reason why I post this > threat is hoping to get something better, or at least some other options > besides webalizer.. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joe White" > To: "alexus" > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 6:49 PM > Subject: Re: apache's web-based statistcs > > > > I know a couple people have already suggested webalizer, and so will I. > You > > can grab it from www.mrunix.com/webalizer and also check out the actual > > usage at www.edgehosting.com/webalizer > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "alexus" > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 2:52 PM > > Subject: apache's web-based statistcs > > > > > > > Hello > > > > > > I was wondering if someone could suggest me software to process apache's > > > logs in order to make web-based statistics, like one of very popular > > product > > > WebTrends's products, also since this software will proceed logs and > > > generate statistics, i assume there is no more need for old logs, is > there > > a > > > way to delete whatever this software proceed? some sort of rotate logs? > > > > > > Thank you in advance > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 9 7: 5: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from web20109.mail.yahoo.com (web20109.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7352937B425 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 07:04:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020109150456.94426.qmail@web20109.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [193.227.212.160] by web20109.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 09 Jan 2002 16:04:56 CET Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 16:04:56 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Fabrizio=20Ravazzini?= Subject: Re: Global load balancing To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1010587920.3c3c591080ec4@Mail.SavvyWorld.Net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org OPS!!!.....long night... Yes balance.sourceforge.net --- Edwin Culp ha scritto: > Quoting Fabrizio Ravazzini : > > > Hello, have a look at: > > loadbalance.sourceforge.net > should that not be > http://balance.sourceforge.net > > ed > > > > or dns round robin tecnique > > > > regards > > --- francisv@dagupan.com ha scritto: > Hi, > > > > > > I'm looking for a global load balancing tool to > load > > > balance HTTP traffic on > > > servers located in different ISPs or data > centers. > > > > > > --- > > > francis a. vidal [bitstop network services] | > > > http://www.dagupan.com > > > streaming media + web hosting | > > > http://www.keystone.ph > > > v(02)330-2871,(02)330-2872; f(02)330-2873 | > > > http://www.kuro.ph > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to > majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of > the > > message > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > > > Iscriviti al gruppo ufficiale di Tomb Raider: > > > http://it.groups.yahoo.com/group/gruppoufficiale_tombraider/ > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the > message > > > > > > > --- ______________________________________________________________________ Iscriviti al gruppo ufficiale di Tomb Raider: http://it.groups.yahoo.com/group/gruppoufficiale_tombraider/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 9 7:46: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smaug.rhavenn.net (smaug.rhavenn.net [209.150.195.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44D9637B423 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 07:46:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from there (6374ad2fc75a9b4b9b929a9a83cd9e5a@gandalf.rhavenn.net [209.150.195.51]) by smaug.rhavenn.net (8.12.1/8.12.1) with SMTP id g09G22w0061711; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 10:02:02 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <200201091602.g09G22w0061711@smaug.rhavenn.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Henrik Hudson Reply-To: lists@rhavenn.net To: "alexus" , Subject: Re: apache's web-based statistcs Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 09:57:23 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <000901c1987e$02041dd0$0d00a8c0@alexus> In-Reply-To: <000901c1987e$02041dd0$0d00a8c0@alexus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If you don't mind shelling out a few bucks, I have found that Urchin rocks! Find it at: www.urchin.com Plus it has some nice features that "suits" tend to like, ie: it looks nice :) On Tuesday 08 January 2002 13:52, alexus wrote: > Hello > > I was wondering if someone could suggest me software to process apache's > logs in order to make web-based statistics, like one of very popular > product WebTrends's products, also since this software will proceed logs > and generate statistics, i assume there is no more need for old logs, is > there a way to delete whatever this software proceed? some sort of rotate > logs? > > Thank you in advance > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- Henrik Hudson lists@rhavenn.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 9 8:14:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from proverbs.outreachnetworks.com (proverbs.outreachnetworks.com [65.196.249.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 53FBD37B404 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 08:14:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 63143 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2002 16:14:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phoncella.outreachnetworks.com) (65.196.249.11) by proverbs.outreachnetworks.com with SMTP; 9 Jan 2002 16:14:17 -0000 Received: (from elh@localhost) by phoncella.outreachnetworks.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g09GEH402890 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 11:14:17 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: phoncella.outreachnetworks.com: elh set sender to elh@outreachnetworks.com using -f Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 11:14:17 -0500 From: "Eric L. Howard" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: apache's web-based statistcs Message-ID: <20020109111417.B1568@outreachnetworks.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG References: <000901c1987e$02041dd0$0d00a8c0@alexus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <000901c1987e$02041dd0$0d00a8c0@alexus>; from ml@db.nexgen.com on Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 02:52:30PM -0500 Favorite-Scripture: Romans 8:18 Theocratic-Rule-Advocate: http://www.crossmovement.com Registered-Secret-Agent: Agent Double-Naught Seven Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At a certain time, now past, alexus spake thusly: > Hello > > I was wondering if someone could suggest me software to process apache's > logs in order to make web-based statistics, like one of very popular product > WebTrends's products, also since this software will proceed logs and > generate statistics, i assume there is no more need for old logs, is there a > way to delete whatever this software proceed? some sort of rotate logs? > > Thank you in advance Look at Report Magic + Analog. Both are in /usr/ports/www http://www.reportmagic.org/sample/index.html ~elh -- Eric L. Howard e l h @ o u t r e a c h n e t w o r k s . c o m ------------------------------------------------------------------------ www.OutreachNetworks.com 313.297.9900 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Advocate of the Theocratic Rule To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 9 9:26:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hex.databits.net (hex.csh.rit.edu [129.21.60.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 84EE337B400 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 09:26:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 56505 invoked by uid 1001); 9 Jan 2002 17:26:08 -0000 Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 12:26:08 -0500 From: Pete Fritchman To: Julian Stacey Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, bv@wjv.com Subject: Re: Restricting Users Geographically Message-ID: <20020109122608.B55918@databits.net> References: <200201082333.g08NXLn49145@jhs.muc.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200201082333.g08NXLn49145@jhs.muc.de>; from jhs@jhs.muc.de on Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 12:33:21AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ++ 09/01/02 00:33 +0100 - Julian Stacey: | Bill Vermillion wrote: | | > > Mirrors should probably be setup on a continental basis, rather | > > than a courtry basis. | > | > Not neccesarily. The backbone I'm on has terabit links to Europe | > and some place in Europe are faater to get to than NA link on | > slower connections such as running only on T1s or T3s. | | Yes, I've been wondering for a year or 2 now when someone might | want to enhance `fetch` to take into account accumulated & current | net heurisitics, to make sensible local decisions about where to | try first to fetch source distfiles/ for the stuff in /usr/ports/ You can always tell it yourself with MASTER_SORT_REGEX, which is documented in /etc/defaults/make.conf. -pete -- Pete Fritchman [petef@(databits.net|freebsd.org|csh.rit.edu)] finger petef@databits.net for PGP key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 9 9:49: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dpbox.dhs.org (dsl-216-227-100-85.telocity.com [216.227.100.85]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A35C537B41D for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 09:48:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from vector.usa.net ([192.168.0.50]) by gatekeeper.dpbox.dhs.org (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g094FPf13648 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 22:15:26 -0600 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020108230640.00af9a38@pop.netaddress.com> X-Sender: dpuryear@pop.netaddress.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 23:10:18 -0600 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Dustin Puryear Subject: Re: Migration of a complete system In-Reply-To: <20020109021206.A86939@ulstu.ru> References: <81C8CA3C286FD511A959000102C9B2CE760390@EXCHANGE> <81C8CA3C286FD511A959000102C9B2CE760390@EXCHANGE> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 02:12 AM 1/9/2002 +0300, you wrote: On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 04:40:33PM -0600, Alberth David P?rez Marfil wrote: >> Hi list, >> i need to move all users and aplication (Apache, Samba, Sendmail, >> postgreSQL) to a new box. >> what is the best way to doit with out stop the service? > man dump > man restore I don't think that is a good solution in this case, but I could be wrong. He will have active file systems. In addition, the dumped data will quickly be out of date since he doesn't want service interruption. How about: 1. Bring up new server 2. Setup PostgreSQL replication from old to new server - let them sync 3. Redirect new PostgreSQL requests to new machine 4. Stop PostgreSQL replication when ready 5. Redirect incoming SMTP to new server; don't stop old Sendmail 6. Stop old Sendmail once queued mail has been delivered 7. Apache -- just do it 8. Samba is the hardest. Maybe you can set the shares to read-only mode, make a copy to new server, users then disconnect, and reconnect to new server I am assuming that PostgreSQL has some type of replication support. With Samba you will have some service interruption. I don't see a way around it. Anyway, be careful and verify after each step. Regards, Dustin --- Dustin Puryear Information Systems Consultant http://members.telocity.com/~dpuryear In the beginning the Universe was created. This has been widely regarded as a bad move. - Douglas Adams To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 9 10:19:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mout1.freenet.de (mout1.freenet.de [194.97.50.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EBF637B41C for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 10:19:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from [194.97.50.136] (helo=mx3.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 16ONKJ-0006wG-00; Wed, 09 Jan 2002 19:19:51 +0100 Received: from a37f6.pppool.de ([213.6.55.246] helo=Magelan.Leidinger.net) by mx3.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 16ONKH-0001p5-00; Wed, 09 Jan 2002 19:19:50 +0100 Received: from Leidinger.net (netchild@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Magelan.Leidinger.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g09GrBU02624; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 17:53:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from netchild@Leidinger.net) Message-Id: <200201091653.g09GrBU02624@Magelan.Leidinger.net> Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 17:53:10 +0100 (CET) From: Alexander Leidinger Subject: Re: apache's web-based statistcs To: ml@db.nexgen.com Cc: joe@edgehosting.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <006401c198ab$7dea6f30$0100a8c0@alexus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 8 Jan, alexus wrote: > I know what webalizer is, I use it too, I guess the reason why I post this > threat is hoping to get something better, or at least some other options > besides webalizer.. /usr/ports/textproc/modlogan A patch to the actual stable version of it is waiting to get committed. Modlogan ("modular logfile analyzer") started as a patch for webalizer, but now it is a standalone program. The default output of it can be seen on e.g. http://www.leidinger.net/webstats/, the new version of it offers the possibility to customize it as you like. Bye, Alexander. -- "One world, one web, one program" -- Microsoft promotional ad "Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Fuehrer" -- Adolf Hitler http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net GPG fingerprint = C518 BC70 E67F 143F BE91 3365 79E2 9C60 B006 3FE7 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 9 10:56:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from rebecca.tiscali.nl (rebecca.tiscali.nl [195.241.76.181]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9885737B419 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 10:56:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from monkey-online.net (unknown [195.241.113.9]) by rebecca.tiscali.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A397C8A3B03 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 19:56:01 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3C3C913D.90708@monkey-online.net> Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 19:51:41 +0100 From: Eric Veraart User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Filtering out problem with IPFilter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I'm running a FreeBSD gateway here with IPFilter. I noticed that packets comming in from the network can be filtered and blocked, but once they are through I can't filter them with out rules. For example; I make a rule to pass in all traffic from xl0 to any Then I say all traffic out on ep0 is allowed, but on xl1 only a small range of addresses can go out. What I notice is that all computers on xl0 can go to an address behind xl1. The gateway itself can't go out on xl1. It almost seems as if gateway_enable="YES" in rc.conf lets packets bypass the filter after comming in. I'm not using NAT. Though this is not a big problem, because I can manage everything through IN rules, it's still strange. Greetings, Eric To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 9 15:40:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mrdida.yi.org (dial749.infolink.com.br [200.244.72.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21FAB37B422 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 15:40:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from academica01.gmx.net (academica01 [192.168.0.2]) by mrdida.yi.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9753C24DF; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 20:33:08 -0200 (BRST) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.2.20020109201245.037e6c00@mail.gmx.net> X-Sender: mrdida@gmx.net@mail.gmx.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 20:16:40 -0300 To: Mark Newton , Wim Livens From: Angelo Subject: Re: root without password ? Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20020109114059.A61362@internode.com.au> References: <20020109004913.GB54233@krijt.livens.net> <20020109004913.GB54233@krijt.livens.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hey Mark It doesnt work here.. using tcsh.. [8:09pm] newfw[/home/maint> su - Password: [8:09pm] newfw[/root> suspend Can't suspend a login shell (yet). [8:09pm] newfw[/root> rgrs angelo >If you *really* want the ability to get root access on demand without >having to type a password 50,000 times per day, do this: > > tcsh% su > Password: > tcsh# suspend > > Suspended > tcsh% jobs > [1] + Suspended su > tcsh% fg > su > tcsh# > >So - su to root and type the password once. When you're finished with >privilieges, type "suspend" to go back to normal privileges. When you >need root privs again, type "fg". To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 9 16:14:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net (dhcp.looksmart.com.au [202.53.47.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5F3837B41C for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 16:14:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sarge@localhost) by xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0A0ECS01405; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 11:14:12 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from msergeant@looksmart.net) X-Authentication-Warning: xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net: sarge set sender to msergeant@looksmart.net using -f Subject: Re: root without password ? From: Mark Sergeant To: Angelo Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.2.20020109201245.037e6c00@mail.gmx.net> References: <20020109004913.GB54233@krijt.livens.net> <20020109004913.GB54233@krijt.livens.net> <5.0.0.25.2.20020109201245.037e6c00@mail.gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 09 Jan 2002 14:14:07 -1000 Message-Id: <1010621647.790.2.camel@xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I would have to say stick with sudo n in the sudoers file put... OPERATIONS ALL =3D NOPASSWD: ALL that way whoever is part of the OPERATIONS group can run sudo cmd or sudo bash/csh/ksh etc. Cheers, Mark On Thu, 2002-01-10 at 11:16, Angelo wrote: > Hey Mark >=20 > It doesnt work here.. using tcsh.. >=20 > [8:09pm] newfw[/home/maint> su - > Password: > [8:09pm] newfw[/root> suspend > Can't suspend a login shell (yet). >=20 > [8:09pm] newfw[/root> >=20 > rgrs >=20 > angelo >=20 >=20 >=20 > >If you *really* want the ability to get root access on demand without > >having to type a password 50,000 times per day, do this: > > > > tcsh% su > > Password: > > tcsh# suspend > > > > Suspended > > tcsh% jobs > > [1] + Suspended su > > tcsh% fg > > su > > tcsh# > > > >So - su to root and type the password once. When you're finished with > >privilieges, type "suspend" to go back to normal privileges. When you > >need root privs again, type "fg". >=20 >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message >=20 --=20 Mark Sergeant Unix Systems Administrator =20 L=F4=F4kSmart International Pty. Ltd. Level 5/388 Lonsdale Street Melbourne, VIC, 3000 Australia=20 P. (03) 9648 2201=20 F. (03) 9648 2244=20 http://www.looksmart.com.au The referring document contains privileged and confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy, distribute or take action with regards to the content, we request that you notify LookSmart International Pty. Ltd. immediately and remove all traces of this document.=20 Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where they are specifically stated to be the views of LookSmart=20 International Pty. Ltd. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 9 18: 6:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from encontacto.net (adsl-64-173-182-158.dsl.mtry01.pacbell.net [64.173.182.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A4A637B419 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 18:06:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by encontacto.net (8.11.6/8.11.4) id g0A277h23095 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 18:07:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eculp@EnContacto.Net) Received: from 64.173.182.155 ( [64.173.182.155]) as user eculp@EnContacto.Net by Mail.SavvyWorld.Net with HTTP; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 18:07:07 -0800 Message-ID: <1010628427.3c3cf74b66dc5@Mail.SavvyWorld.Net> Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 18:07:07 -0800 From: Edwin Culp To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Global load balancing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 4.0-cvs X-Originating-IP: 64.173.182.155 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Quoting Fabrizio Ravazzini : > Hello, have a look at: > loadbalance.sourceforge.net should that not be http://balance.sourceforge.net ed > > or dns round robin tecnique > > regards > --- francisv@dagupan.com ha scritto: > Hi, > > > > I'm looking for a global load balancing tool to load > > balance HTTP traffic on > > servers located in different ISPs or data centers. > > > > --- > > francis a. vidal [bitstop network services] | > > http://www.dagupan.com > > streaming media + web hosting | > > http://www.keystone.ph > > v(02)330-2871,(02)330-2872; f(02)330-2873 | > > http://www.kuro.ph > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the > message > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Iscriviti al gruppo ufficiale di Tomb Raider: > http://it.groups.yahoo.com/group/gruppoufficiale_tombraider/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > --- --- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 10 0: 0:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hex.databits.net (hex.csh.rit.edu [129.21.60.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D50FC37B41E for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 00:00:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 90619 invoked by uid 1001); 10 Jan 2002 08:00:32 -0000 Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 03:00:32 -0500 From: Pete Fritchman To: Angelo Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: root without password ? Message-ID: <20020110030032.A90138@databits.net> References: <20020109004913.GB54233@krijt.livens.net> <20020109004913.GB54233@krijt.livens.net> <20020109114059.A61362@internode.com.au> <5.0.0.25.2.20020109201245.037e6c00@mail.gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.2.20020109201245.037e6c00@mail.gmx.net>; from mrdida@gmx.net on Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 08:16:40PM -0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ++ 09/01/02 20:16 -0300 - Angelo: | Hey Mark | | It doesnt work here.. using tcsh.. | | [8:09pm] newfw[/home/maint> su - | Password: | [8:09pm] newfw[/root> suspend | Can't suspend a login shell (yet). | | [8:09pm] newfw[/root> | That's because you used "su -" -- that gives you a login shell (which you obviously can't suspend). Just "su". -pete -- Pete Fritchman [petef@(databits.net|freebsd.org|csh.rit.edu)] finger petef@databits.net for PGP key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 10 13:29:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from jhs.muc.de (jhs.muc.de [193.149.49.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3940B37B416 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 13:29:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from park.jhs.private (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jhs.muc.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g0AKucA55896; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 20:56:38 GMT (envelope-from jhs@park.jhs.private) Message-Id: <200201102056.g0AKucA55896@jhs.muc.de> To: Pete Fritchman Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, bv@wjv.com Subject: Re: Restricting Users Geographically In-Reply-To: Message from Pete Fritchman of "Wed, 09 Jan 2002 12:26:08 EST." <20020109122608.B55918@databits.net> Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 21:56:37 +0100 From: Julian Stacey Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Pete Fritchman wrote: > | Yes, I've been wondering for a year or 2 now when someone might > | want to enhance `fetch` to take into account accumulated & current > | net heurisitics, to make sensible local decisions about where to > | try first to fetch source distfiles/ for the stuff in /usr/ports/ > > You can always tell it yourself with MASTER_SORT_REGEX, which is > documented in /etc/defaults/make.conf. Pete, I didnt know that existed, that could speed up distfile downloads a lot, thanks for mentioning it. Julian J.Stacey Munich Unix (FreeBSD, Linux etc) Independent Consultant Reduce costs to secure jobs: Use free software: http://bim.bsn.com/~jhs/free/ Ihr Rauchen = mein allergischer Kopfschmerz ! Schnupftabak probieren ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 10 16: 9:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mrdida.yi.org (dial505.infolink.com.br [200.255.110.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0D6E37B49F for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:09:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from academica01.gmx.net (academica01 [192.168.0.2]) by mrdida.yi.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6461D24E5; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 11:14:24 -0200 (BRST) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.2.20020110204509.032a9940@mail.gmx.net> X-Sender: mrdida@gmx.net@mail.gmx.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 20:51:55 -0300 To: , sgcccdc@citec.qld.gov.au From: Angelo Subject: Re: correct permission to /var/mail - SOLVED Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20020109065403.32089.qmail@grif.newmail.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello Andrew and Collin Senhores, finally I solved this problem.. I had to depure code and=20 compiling using Freebsd's flock() function. I dont know why using a bsd=20 lock, in my box it doesnt work ( I think an upgrade version comes without= =20 this problem ) Later, I' also installed tpop3d, I had the same problem about locking.. I=20 'dchanged to flock when I was creating a makefile from./configure disabling fcntl locking and enabling flock... Now It's working fine. thank you for helping Angelo At 09:54 9/1/2002 +0300, Andrew Karjagin wrote: >I have the same problem with cucipop at FreeBSD 3.3 version > >from ports. I am update it by stable version and it worked >fine. >Try get it stable port from: >http://ftp.chg.ru:8000/ftpsearch? >query=3Dcucipop&doit=3DSearch&type=3DCase+insensitive+substring+se >arch&hits=3D250&matches=3D&hitsprmatch=3D&limdom=3D&limpath=3D&f1=3DCoun >t&f2=3DMode&f3=3DSize&f4=3DDate&f5=3DHost&f6=3DPath&header=3Dnone&sort=3Dn >one&trlen=3D20 >__________ >www.newmail.ru -- =EE=CF=D7=C1=D1 =F0=CF=DE=D4=C1: =D7=D3=C5 =D0=CF =CE=CF= =D7=CF=CD=D5. > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 10 16: 9:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mrdida.yi.org (dial505.infolink.com.br [200.255.110.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F7FB37B49E for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:09:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from academica01.gmx.net (academica01 [192.168.0.2]) by mrdida.yi.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE2B724EA; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 12:18:02 -0200 (BRST) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.2.20020110215246.02ce72a8@mail.gmx.net> X-Sender: mrdida@gmx.net@mail.gmx.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 21:55:57 -0300 To: From: Angelo Subject: Re: correct permission to /var/mail - SOLVED - and about cucipop 1.31 look this Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andrew, In cucipop source code I just change it at config.h file: /*$Id: config.h,v 1.20 1998/05/12 21:09:14 srb Exp $*/ /*#define USEdot_lock /**/ ( This was default ) /*#define USEfcntl_lock /**/ /* to test which combinations make sense= */ /*#define USElockf /**/ /* run the lockingtest program part of= */ #define USEflock /**/ /* the procmail installation=20 process */ ( I have change to this ) And recompile.. Now working fine. nevermore locking mailbox problems here.. regards, Angelo At 09:54 9/1/2002 +0300, Andrew Karjagin wrote: >I have the same problem with cucipop at FreeBSD 3.3 version > >from ports. I am update it by stable version and it worked >fine. >Try get it stable port from: >http://ftp.chg.ru:8000/ftpsearch? >query=3Dcucipop&doit=3DSearch&type=3DCase+insensitive+substring+se >arch&hits=3D250&matches=3D&hitsprmatch=3D&limdom=3D&limpath=3D&f1=3DCoun >t&f2=3DMode&f3=3DSize&f4=3DDate&f5=3DHost&f6=3DPath&header=3Dnone&sort=3Dn >one&trlen=3D20 >__________ >www.newmail.ru -- =EE=CF=D7=C1=D1 =F0=CF=DE=D4=C1: =D7=D3=C5 =D0=CF =CE=CF= =D7=CF=CD=D5. > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 10 16:14: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from donna.risc.lv (donna.risc.lv [159.148.235.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7424737B416 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:13:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from is.lv (vic.virtualis.lv [195.13.183.49]) by donna.risc.lv (8.10.1/X.Y.Z) with ESMTP id g0B0Dqv64974 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 02:13:52 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from vic@is.lv) Message-ID: <3C3E2E24.70504@is.lv> Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 02:13:24 +0200 From: Victor Meirans User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.7) Gecko/20011221 X-Accept-Language: en-us, lv MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: ot: ftp question (proftpd) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1257; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I am currently using proftpd on 4.4-Release. There is a problem I'm trying to solve: I can't figure out how to limit amout of simultaneous ftp *user* connections to my box. Let's say I want user joe to be able to connect to my site only 3 times semultaneously, doesn't matter from where. There are ways to limit number of hosts per user, and number of connections per host, but no limiting connections per user. I think it would be possible to do it using classes, e.g., giving each user a class, and limiting classes, but with relativly large site (200-500) users it would be a pain in the ass... I need this 'cause many users are connecting from common proxies, that's why limiting connections per host doesn't do for me. I wrote to proftpd-users list, but still no solution. Anyone ever having similar problem??? Are there other ftp daemons supporting that? Any ideas? Thanks in advance... -- ViC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 10 21: 8:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from xela.oopz.com (xela.oopz.com [209.20.244.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DCE137B419 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 21:08:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: mirror MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1257" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 21:08:56 -0800 content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.4712.0 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: ftp question (proftpd) Thread-Index: AcGaNP2b7UvEaBQvTK2LNuOgAXH+QwAKK4tg From: "Noah Davidson" To: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We need to mirror some web servers. We are using FreeBSD. Does anyone have any suggestions of software or any other suggestions to use? I am hoping someone else has already had experience with this could give me some pointers. Thanks Noah Davidson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 11 3:49:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from www.kenpac.net (sv.kenpac.net [211.10.20.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC5AD37B405; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 03:47:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx2.eudoramail.com ([207.93.225.196]) by www.kenpac.net (8.9.3/3.7W-primary) with ESMTP id UAA07109; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 20:44:58 +0900 From: WSCHwatch@eudoramail.com Message-ID: <0000503b64c8$00000201$00006b71@mx2.eudoramail.com> To: Subject: WSCH: Baby Pharmaceutical on the Rise OWSSK Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 05:45:23 -1800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Reply-To: WSCHnews21@eudoramail.com Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org = Investors
<= td width=3D100% height=3D372 valign=3Dtop align=3Dleft>
  &n= bsp;   Key Points about = WSCH:
  • The products and me= dical therapies developed by WSCH represent possibly the most important= breakthrough in the field of Dermatology in the last fifty years.&nbs= p;

  • WSCH anticipates= FDA approval on seven over-the-counter products within the next ye= ar, which will provide significant revenue in the retail drug market.
    =
  • WSCH has experie= nced a success rate of 90% during clinical studies, completely elim= inating skin disease from 90% of all patients treated.

  • By year five, WSCH plans to have annua= lized revenue over $525 million and over $125 million in EBIT.  This does not take into account income from OTC products which wi= ll be substantial.

 <= /caption>
=

Emergin= g Growth Stock Alert
Wasatch Pharmaceuticals: A Company on the Rise

Company Name &n= bsp;Wasatch Pharmaceuticals (OTCBB: WSCH)
Current = Price$0.066
52-We= ek High$27.50
5= 2-Week Low$0.065
<= /div>

Company Background

Wasatch Pharmaceutical, Inc. is a fourteen year o= ld company with a record of outstanding achievements in the field of Derma= tology.  Under the name of its subsidiary, American Institute of Skin= Care (AISC), Wasatch has operated two prototype clinics for the la= st five years where the products and medical therapies have been tested an= d proven on hundreds of patients.  The Company's activities have been= centered on research in the area of serious skin diseases.  A= concurrent discovery and benefit is WSCH's dramatic success in the area o= f skin rejuvenation.  Seeing the high growth potential from major fun= ding, WSCH elected to become a public company less than two years a= go.

Wasatch's major successes i= n the area of skin diseases include: 

Cystic Acne, Eczema= , Seborrhea, Contact Dermatitis, Molluscum, Folliculitis, Acne Rosacea and= less prevalent skin diseases.  

Interestingly, the= se skin disorders account for more than 70% of all business in the = field of dermatology for which there are very few (if any) safe, effective= therapies like those developed by Wasatch.

Because the th= erapies developed by Wasatch dominate this area of medicine, WSCH h= as elected to market its products via company-owned clinics throughout the= United States.  This decision has resulted in the establishment of <= b>two research clinics in Utah for the purpose of implementing procedu= res within the clinics pursuant to testing and confirming the results that= were achieved in past clinical trials.  Due to its success rate o= f 90% on hundreds of patients over a five year period, WSCH's clinics = are now on line with insurance providers independent of HMOs.  Effort= s to establish Preferred Provider ship status with HMOs are presently bein= g pursued. 

Most Recent WSCH News

 

Wasatch Pharmaceutical Inc. Announc= es a New Physician Marketing Campaign and Listing On German Stock Exchange= s

MURRAY, Utah--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Nov.= 27, 2001--Wasatch Pharmaceutical Inc. (OTCBB:WSCH - news) CEO Gary Heesch announced today a marketing camp= aign directed to physicians. A direct link has been established on a physi= cian recruiting Web site making available therapies for the treatment of c= ystic acne, acne, folliculitis, and skin rejuvenation. Physicians will fin= d the benefits of these treatment therapies by logging on to the "= X Acne" link at physicianssearc= h.com. This physician search Web site typically receives over 2= 00,000 hits per month. Mr. Heesch reminded, "Our treatment therap= y products are also available via the AISC Online Store at restoremyskin.com.'"

These skin treatment products come in kit form providing a = 90-day supply to patients for the full treatment program. Included in the = kit is an instructional video on the treatment therapy allowing the patien= t to use these products in their home. The therapies, when used as instruc= ted, achieve a success rate of eradication in excess of 90% with no sid= e effects of any consequence. Previously, these therapies and associat= ed products were only available through the two prototype clinics in Utah.= The availability of these products will open the way for family practitio= ners, pediatricians, internists and other primary care physicians to retai= n their patients under their care during the treatment of these common ski= n disorders. The benefit to insurance providers is the potential to sav= e millions of dollars in reimbursement costs by freeing the physician and = the patient from ongoing treatment.

In the coming year, six additional therapies will be made availabl= e for a broad range of skin disorders that are badly in need of succes= sful therapies.

Gary Heesch also an= nounced the listing of Wasatch Pharmaceutical stock on the Frankfurt an= d Berlin Exchanges in Germany. Active trading on these exchanges will = take place upon the completion of a research report in Germany. Said Mr. H= eesch, "We feel this is a significant event as Wasatch will gain w= ider exposure as a leader in dermatology and will put buying pressure on its stock to reflect the true value of a company t= hat has committed years of research and development of products that allow= people with serious skin disorders to live normal and more productive liv= es."

There may be forward-loo= king statements in this release. Investors are cautioned that such forward= -looking statements involve risks and uncertainties, including, without li= mitation, continued acceptance of the Company's products, increased levels= of competition, new products introduced by competitors, changes in the ra= tes of subscriber acquisition and retention, and other risks detailed from= time to time in the Company's periodic reports filed with the Securities = and Exchange Commission.

Projections, Objectives, and Statistics

 Over a five year period, AISC (WSCH's subsidiary) p= lans to establish 350 clinics in over 100 major population areas.&n= bsp; The company plans to hire over 150 medical doctors for these clinics,= train over 1,000 medical assistants and treat over 2,000,000 patients<= /b>. Also by year five, WSCH plans to have annualized over $525 million= in revenue and over $125 million in EBIT. This does not take into acc= ount income from OTC products which will be substantial. 

<= blockquote>

  As of 1991, there were = approximately 14 million chronic acne and eczema patients annually in the = United States, with the highest percentage between 18 to 44 years of = age. The actual number of patients with any type of acne is significa= ntly higher.  Seven billion dollars is spent annually on derma= tological pharmaceutical products for these disorders. 

=   In 1994, the teen population reached 25 million. During the next d= ecade, it will grow at nearly twice the rate of 
the overall p= opulation (according to U.S. Census Bureau projections). Acne pat= ients are primarily teenagers, whereas eczema patients range from inf= ants to the elderly.

A Look at the Competition

= Dermatologists are the primary competitors of WSCH's clinics. Dermatologis= ts specialize in the treatment of skin disorders and prescribe medications= to treat the disorder.  However, competing products address the s= ymptoms of acne and eczema, not the cause. 

<= font face=3DVerdana size=3D2>The competition's skin care treatments includ= e prescription medications (oral and external use drugs prescribed by derm= atologists and other doctors) and over-the-counter products.  
Several common prescription medications include: 
= 1) E-Mycin for oral and topical use, 2) Cleocin for oral and topical use, = 3) Tetracycline for oral and topical use, and 4) Accutane for oral use onl= y.  

Over-the-counter acne medications include: = ;
1) Clearasil and Oxy creams, 2) generic brand creams, 3) medicat= ed pads, and 4) medicated soaps. 

Many of the competit= ion's oral medications have serious side effects.

Costs for competing treatments range from $2.50 for= medicated soaps to $200 for Accutane oral medication prescription.  = Treatments are on-going.  Over time a person can spend an unlimite= d amount of money on such treatments.  An example would be someon= e who spent $1,500 for a 22 week program of Accutane which includes blood = testing.  Another example would be someone who has had acne for many = years and has spent in excess of $34,000. 

At this time there is no known competitor who treats t= he causes of these skin disorders and no competitor can claim a success= rate equal to that of Wasatch's treatments. 

Final Thoughts on WSCH<= /b>

Wi= th a proven success rate of 90% in a field that affects so many of our liv= es, Wasatch has clearly positioned itself in a market hungry and desper= ate for successful products and treatment.  WSCH has recently exp= anded its marketing presence (as seen in the above press release) and will= continue to aggressively broaden awareness over the near term. The listin= g of WSCH on the German stock exchange is another sign of the compa= ny's credibility and ambitious plans to establish itself as a major glo= bal player in the field of dermatology.  

WSCH has = taken on a completely different approach.  By addressing the causes o= f skin disorders rather than the symptoms, WSCH will help to successfully = eliminate skin disease altogether. Given its 

1. Successful = 14-year history and plans for expansion
2. Impressive revenue projecti= ons ($525 million+ annualized by year 5 and $125 million in EBIT)
= 3. Virtually unmatched success rate of 90%...

...and so much = more, WSCH will certainly watched by savvy investors for some time to come= .

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<= /div> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 11 4:26:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.netc.pt (smtp3.netc.pt [212.18.160.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94F0437B404 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 04:26:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from web.megamail.pt ([193.236.127.13]) by smtp3.netc.pt (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.07.30.00.05.p8) with ESMTP id <0GPR00BFLX7HHI@smtp3.netc.pt>; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 12:26:05 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 12:26:04 +0000 From: jpsp Subject: Forcing automatic boot with errors on filesystems To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-id: <1010751964.3c3ed9dcbfe07@paris-hme1> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program X-Originating-IP: 193.136.7.220 X-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows NT 5.0) X-Cache-Control: no-cache Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello all, We have recently configuerd a serial terminal server with a cyclades board on a freeBSD. The system is just an old PC with an IDE disk. We would like the system to be able to do an automatic reboot even in case of (temporary) power failure. The BIOS doesn't give any trouble, but the OS some times insists in stopping on the file system check. Is there any way of forcing that operation to complete, even if serious errors are found on the file system? As long as we can log in through SSH, and run "minicom", we're ok. Thank you, Joao ------------------------------------------------- Email Enviado utilizando o serviço MegaMail To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 11 5: 8:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from paperboy.epcdirect.co.uk (paperboy.epcdirect.co.uk [195.10.242.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C736337B405 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 05:08:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by paperboy.epcdirect.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g0BD8F412156; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 13:08:15 GMT (envelope-from freebsd-isp@epcdirect.co.uk) Delivered-To: jpsp@megamail.pt Received: from lfarr (l-farr.int.epcdirect.co.uk [192.168.6.200]) by paperboy.epcdirect.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.1av) with ESMTP id g0BD8Bd12147; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 13:08:11 GMT (envelope-from freebsd-isp@epcdirect.co.uk) From: "Lawrence Farr" To: "'jpsp'" , Subject: RE: Forcing automatic boot with errors on filesystems Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 13:08:13 -0000 Message-ID: <005301c19aa1$074eee30$c806a8c0@lfarr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3311 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <1010751964.3c3ed9dcbfe07@paris-hme1> Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org fsck_y_enable=3D"YES" in rc.conf will do the trick. Lawrence Farr EPC Direct Limited=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG=20 > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of jpsp > Sent: 11 January 2002 12:26 > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Forcing automatic boot with errors on filesystems >=20 >=20 > Hello all, >=20 > We have recently configuerd a serial terminal server=20 > with a cyclades board on a freeBSD. >=20 > The system is just an old PC with an IDE disk. >=20 > We would like the system to be able to do an automatic=20 > reboot even in case of (temporary) power failure. The=20 > BIOS doesn't give any trouble, but the OS some times=20 > insists in stopping on the file system check. Is there=20 > any way of forcing that operation to complete, even if=20 > serious errors are found on the file system? As long=20 > as we can log in through SSH, and run "minicom", we're=20 > ok. >=20 > Thank you, > Joao >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------- > Email Enviado utilizando o servi=E7o MegaMail >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 11 7:54:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dpbox.dhs.org (dsl-216-227-100-85.telocity.com [216.227.100.85]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58DC537B417 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 07:54:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from vector.usa.net ([192.168.0.50]) by dpbox.dhs.org (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g0BF9Ie03495; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 09:09:19 -0600 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020111100300.034d96c0@pop.netaddress.com> X-Sender: dpuryear@pop.netaddress.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 10:03:54 -0600 To: "Noah Davidson" , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Dustin Puryear Subject: Re: mirror In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 09:08 PM 1/10/2002 -0800, you wrote: >We need to mirror some web servers. We are using FreeBSD. Does anyone >have any suggestions of software or any other suggestions to use? I am >hoping someone else has already had experience with this could give me >some pointers. Do you need to mirror external web sites or just replicate several of your own web sites across servers? Regards, Dustin --- Dustin Puryear Information Systems Consultant http://members.telocity.com/~dpuryear In the beginning the Universe was created. This has been widely regarded as a bad move. - Douglas Adams To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 11 8:42:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail4.cableaz.com (mail4.cableaz.com [63.241.150.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA6BF37B426 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 08:42:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from caz (proxy.cableaz.com [63.241.150.31] (may be forged)) by mail4.cableaz.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g0BGYc053112 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 09:34:39 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from jeremy@cableaz.com) Message-ID: <000d01c19abe$a1fc1300$0c0aa8c0@caz> From: "Jeremy Buckner" To: Subject: Trouble ticket system Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 09:40:08 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I was just curious if anyone could recommend a good trouble ticket system? We would like to have one that is slightly configurable to our system (cable modems). Obviously needs to run on FreeBSD with some sort of web interface for the CSRs, and it would be nice if the customers could open and track their tickets too. Any suggestions. Thanks, Jeremy Buckner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 11 8:46:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.sysr.com (ns.sysr.com [208.178.138.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 448F937B416 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 08:46:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (cblevins@localhost) by ns.sysr.com (8.11.1/8.9.2) with ESMTP id g0BGMfn35431; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 11:22:41 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cblevins@sysr.com) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 11:22:41 -0500 (EST) From: Carol Blevins To: Jeremy Buckner Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Trouble ticket system In-Reply-To: <000d01c19abe$a1fc1300$0c0aa8c0@caz> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Try http://www.fsck.com/projects/rt/ ************************************** * It is a little known fact that the * * Y1K bug caused the dark ages. * ************************************** On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Jeremy Buckner wrote: > I was just curious if anyone could recommend a good trouble ticket system? We would like to have one > that is slightly configurable to our system (cable modems). Obviously needs to run on FreeBSD with > some sort of web interface for the CSRs, and it would be nice if the customers could open and track > their tickets too. Any suggestions. > > Thanks, > Jeremy Buckner > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 11 8:49:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from thud.tbe.net (thud.tbe.net [209.123.109.174]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EBBC37B421 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 08:49:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by thud.tbe.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1346D1C943D; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 11:40:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thud.tbe.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9B89DCE83; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 11:40:38 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 11:40:38 -0500 (EST) From: "Gary D. Margiotta" To: Jeremy Buckner Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Trouble ticket system In-Reply-To: <000d01c19abe$a1fc1300$0c0aa8c0@caz> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org http://www.fsck.com/projects/rt/ We've taken this system and slightly customized it to our installation... currently running on a FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE box with MySQL as the backend, web accessible on the frontend. Quite nice, highly configurable, decently powerful. 4 techs supporting about 50 users in house and remote. -Gary "Complexity breeds bugs. Bugs prevent adoption, lack of adoption results in death. Death not good." On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Jeremy Buckner wrote: > I was just curious if anyone could recommend a good trouble ticket system? We would like to have one > that is slightly configurable to our system (cable modems). Obviously needs to run on FreeBSD with > some sort of web interface for the CSRs, and it would be nice if the customers could open and track > their tickets too. Any suggestions. > > Thanks, > Jeremy Buckner > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 11 10:23: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from minbar.megacity.org (minbar.megacity.org [64.71.143.244]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE3FD37B400 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 10:22:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from minbar.megacity.org (IDENT:bc@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minbar.megacity.org (8.12.2.Beta5/8.12.2.Beta5/MegacityAntiSpam) with ESMTP id g0BIMuot000658 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 11 Jan 2002 18:22:56 GMT Received: from localhost (bc@localhost) by minbar.megacity.org (8.12.2.Beta5/8.12.2.Beta5) with ESMTP id g0BIMtvm000655; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 18:22:55 GMT Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 18:22:55 +0000 (UTC) From: Barry Caplin X-X-Sender: To: Jeremy Buckner Cc: Subject: Re: Trouble ticket system In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Another vote for RT. It really gets the job done and provides great stats/reporting capability for justifying your existence! Barry On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Gary D. Margiotta wrote: > http://www.fsck.com/projects/rt/ > > We've taken this system and slightly customized it to our > installation... currently running on a FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE box with MySQL > as the backend, web accessible on the frontend. > > Quite nice, highly configurable, decently powerful. 4 techs supporting > about 50 users in house and remote. > > -Gary > > "Complexity breeds bugs. Bugs prevent adoption, lack of adoption results > in death. Death not good." > > On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Jeremy Buckner wrote: > > > I was just curious if anyone could recommend a good trouble ticket system? We would like to have one > > that is slightly configurable to our system (cable modems). Obviously needs to run on FreeBSD with > > some sort of web interface for the CSRs, and it would be nice if the customers could open and track > > their tickets too. Any suggestions. > > > > Thanks, > > Jeremy Buckner Barry Caplin, CISSP Qwest Internet Services Director, Internet Systems work: bcaplin@uswest.net, bcaplin@qwest.net Engineering home: bc@bjb.org, bc@mtiweb.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 11 20:24:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hanmail.net (s210-221-67-24.thrunet.ne.kr [210.221.67.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0A2FE37B41B for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 20:23:02 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: buriburidocter@hanmail.net From: ÀÌâ¿ì (Çѱ¹ÀºÇ೪¹«¿¬±¸¿ø ¿øÀå) To: Subject: (È«º¸)ºÎÆйæÁöÀ§¿øȸ¿Í ½É°¢ÇÑ ³ª¶ó°æÁ¦¿Í ³óÃ̹®Á¦¿¡´ëÇÏ¿© °í½ÉÇϽôºв² ¾Ë·Áµå¸³´Ï´Ù Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ks_c_5601-1987" Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 13:23:21 +0900 X-User: 2.4- Message-Id: <20020112042302.0A2FE37B41B@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org

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