From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Oct 26 23:14:29 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBA22451BC3 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 2020 23:14:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wr1-x429.google.com (mail-wr1-x429.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::429]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CKrJN6nPkz3dFn for ; Mon, 26 Oct 2020 23:14:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wr1-x429.google.com with SMTP id n6so14862969wrm.13 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 2020 16:14:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=RKGraJoLWB3NhX4fv3CuY9KcuWtoKS2PL5bxDGtfgOc=; b=lgprnZ0PyPU09iQFja1gtxUqe3p064oORG1JOWmm0u101Wa3smIu6ZjCGSFiFby4vP ptEAOgreeTWMBEm2TuODdI4p4J7Oljy7lkTjjRy1IOB2lG7prhtZ74OY4hy9W/dnV8Fh oCXEt7GqFJHUZXQO4s5jqtWa9UfjIJdFysFPT8A+fN6qWEbxEowaDZq3JgdcANvgXeuV +0LVHT9GabF0JKpP3t1DdsH+6JCm4buv8F465iHuXCufm0ZNuTf6afGTw+3+cWn8c2hx 97JbkLYI9lnSncvu1lgrLVjj3HsWkfMw/i9dPbvLP0LdhAyP66p+CfZ1cfvVain52M// FMqA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530DSzs4xA+47fExhzwZrLmTW1e87WNPhWGzO6MIZMXtfKFOxNvB xWb/m7ebn3YQ4XLEqxkGn58T6tP5zDSQww== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzkZ4Ioj6JCihlnxtAFNGkrjzevzzFu82NvA8zZiaWTgNmxxIHYThy8FuvkgeAn6RMe78S7Rg== X-Received: by 2002:adf:a455:: with SMTP id e21mr22116113wra.158.1603754066282; Mon, 26 Oct 2020 16:14:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com ([2.121.231.131]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x22sm25926475wmj.25.2020.10.26.16.14.24 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 26 Oct 2020 16:14:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2020 23:14:22 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is the "better / best " method to multi-boot different OSes natively WITHOUT VirtualBox(es) ? Message-ID: <20201026231422.1b03652d@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <7256578c-3ad2-2a21-f904-474a5ba7d6a6@kicp.uchicago.edu> References: <20201024111010.5c867e8540a369b826d26703@sohara.org> <20201025065025.6a13dc89@archlinux> <20201025173321.8adee3e5.freebsd@edvax.de> <20201026153012.0cf46ec8@gumby.homeunix.com> <10e0134ddb726ac78174a63bd20ec0bdeb3c896d.camel@riseup.net> <20201026204524.7959ae0b@gumby.homeunix.com> <7256578c-3ad2-2a21-f904-474a5ba7d6a6@kicp.uchicago.edu> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.5 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4CKrJN6nPkz3dFn X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.31 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[googlemail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[googlemail.com,quarantine]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.34)[-0.341]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[2.121.231.131:received]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[googlemail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.98)[-0.977]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[googlemail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.996]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::429:from]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2020 23:14:29 -0000 On Mon, 26 Oct 2020 16:25:10 -0500 Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > Note that I was talking specifically about head parking rather then > > power cycling in general. Your anecdote is about power cycling, not > > specifically parking. > > > > Is parking heads not just powering off magnet that positions heads on > data tracks? On shutdown hard drives turn their spindle motor into a generator to power the parking. Parking is clearly not passive.