Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 00:23:15 +0000 From: Ceri Davies <setantae@submonkey.net> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -STABLE was stable for long time (Re: FreeBSD: Server or Desktop OS?) Message-ID: <20021118002315.GA13171@submonkey.net> In-Reply-To: <20021118000255.BEF6B286A5@mail.tmseck.homedns.org> References: <20021117192123.L23359-100000@hub.org> <20021118000255.BEF6B286A5@mail.tmseck.homedns.org>
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On Mon, Nov 18, 2002 at 01:02:55AM +0100, Thomas Seck wrote: > * Marc G. Fournier (scrappy@hub.org): > > > On Sun, 17 Nov 2002, Thomas Seck wrote: > > > >> You have chosen to maintain systems which stretch FreeBSD to its limits > >> and uncover bugs lurking in the code. This is great. But you cannot do > >> so on the one hand and refuse to face the administrative work on the > >> other hand. This does not work. You have the freedom to maintain your > >> own release with all the patches and fixes you need. Why don't you do > >> it? Instead you waste your time with complaining (and you waste my time > >> because I have to read it and think about the replies I am going to > >> send)? > > > > But, what you miss in here is that picking and choosing which patches to > > use is useless, as it doesn't take into consideration the interactions of > > other patches you don't apply ... or the reliance of future patches that > > would be useful on those patches you don't apply ... if I wanted to > > pick-n-choose patches, I'd run Linux ... I choose to run FreeBSD because > > its an Operating System, not a Kernel with a 101 different distributions > > Basically, you want others to do the developing, testing and patching > and keep the complaining part for yourself. Umm, there aren't any patches for Marc to apply. If there were, then this whole discussion wouldn't even be here (because he wouldn't be having problems with -stable in the first place). I also find people telling Marc that he should do some development, or acting as though he is somewhat lacking in clue, is rather amusing. I agree with Marc when he suggests that people shouldn't be performing MFCs that they're not prepared to support; while -current may be for developers, they should keep in mind that -stable and the release branches formed from it are for the users and this should justify more attention than it currently is getting. A number of developers are very good in this area, but not enough, I feel. Ceri -- Remember the fortress of the brethren! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
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