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Date:      Wed, 10 Oct 2001 11:13:30 -0700
From:      Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
To:        Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@ofug.org>
Cc:        Unhappy Adobe Customer <bsd_appliance@yahoo.com>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: SSSCA?
Message-ID:  <3BC48FCA.93D7FA27@mindspring.com>
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Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote:
> > "Ex pos facto" refers to a law enacted after the fact not being
> 
> Once again, neither "i pos facto" nor "ex pos facto" have any meaning.
> The expression you are thinking of is "ex post facto".

I learned most of my Latin from Italian and Hispanic sources.
If you check the net for references, you will see that the
spelling "ex pos facto" -- without the "t" -- is commonly used.



> "I pos facto", on the other hand, doesn't mean anything at all.  It
> probably stems from your confusing "ex post facto" with "ipso facto"
> ("consequently" or "in and of itself") which is probably a contraction
> of "ex ipso facto" meaning "due to this very fact" or "due to the fact
> itself".

I am not confusing "ipso facto"; I'm dyslexic, but I'm not
_that_ bad.  8-).

So how in Latin would _you_ say "before the fact"?

-- Terry

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