Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 11:36:11 -0700 From: "Tony Toole" <tony@valemount.com> To: <erik@pentadon.com>, <mobile@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: (Retry) Bridging a wi-device with a LAN-adapter Message-ID: <0ec501c23277$d14d0d20$114c35d1@tonyxp> References: <002401c23245$1ced2130$0100a8c0@erikpc> <3D3D6F67.5010508@ucsd.edu> <001001c2325c$42c59420$8a4c35d1@master> <001801c2326b$f1c98300$0200000a@erikpc> <0e6e01c2326c$dee98d60$114c35d1@tonyxp> <002001c23276$0eb66780$0200000a@erikpc>
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Depending on your situation this setup will work fine:
{internet} -- [fxp0 <Box> wi0 (AP)] -- ( ~~ ) -- Laptop
While this will not, because the second (clinet) box cannot be bridged.
{internet} -- [fxp0 <Box> wi0 (AP)] -- ( ~~ ) -- [wi0 (Infra) <Box>
fxp0] -- {internal network}
Thanks,
Tony Toole
----- Original Message -----
From: "Erik Paulsen Skålerud" <erik@pentadon.com>
To: <tony@valemount.com>; <mobile@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: (Retry) Bridging a wi-device with a LAN-adapter
> Oh. Well I'm only going to have one AP in this case, if building an AP is
> the only solution to bridge the networks. So, I just really need to be
sure
> about this, the AP/Bridge can work just as a regular bridge? All
broadcasts
> and such gets passed through and can answer back? (My scenario is to
connect
> a wired LAN with a wireless LAN, and make it look like one big network,
> because of Windows 2000 Active Directory domains and such)
>
> Erik.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tony Toole" <tony@valemount.com>
> To: <mobile@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 7:17 PM
> Subject: Re: (Retry) Bridging a wi-device with a LAN-adapter
>
>
> > Yes. You have to remember however that having a card acting as an AP
> means
> > other clients can connect to it, however your card on AP mode cannot
> connect
> > to another AP unless both units support wi's WDS implementation (does it
> > have one?).
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Tony Toole
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Erik Paulsen Skålerud" <erik@pentadon.com>
> > To: "Tony Toole" <tony@valemount.com>; <mobile@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 10:11 AM
> > Subject: Re: (Retry) Bridging a wi-device with a LAN-adapter
> >
> >
> > > So, If I buy a new card wich has the Prism2/Prism2.5 chipset, it can
> work
> > as
> > > an AP for me -and- bridge in my 100mbit ethernet LAN? So, to say it
the
> > dumb
> > > way, it will appear as a whole network (bridge)
> > >
> > > Erik.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Tony Toole" <tony@valemount.com>
> > > To: <mobile@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 5:18 PM
> > > Subject: Re: (Retry) Bridging a wi-device with a LAN-adapter
> > >
> > >
> > > > The man page for wi(4) shows how to set up a bridge, but the card
must
> > be
> > > in
> > > > pseudo-AP (HostAP) mode, which voids out Orinoco cards like you
said.
> > > >
> > > > Tony Toole
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Eric Hedström" <erich@ucsd.edu>
> > > > To: "Erik Paulsen Skålerud" <erik@pentadon.com>
> > > > Cc: <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>; <freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 7:59 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: (Retry) Bridging a wi-device with a LAN-adapter
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Erik,
> > > > > Assuming the wi(4) page is correct when it says Prism only, that
> rules
> > > > > out your Orinoco card in any case.
> > > > >
> > > > > Eric
> > > > >
> > > > > Erik Paulsen Skålerud wrote:
> > > > > > Hello. I'm a little confused here.
> > > > > > I want to bridge my wireless card (Orinoco/Lucent Silver 11mbit)
> > with
> > > my
> > > > > > LAN-adapter (fxp0).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When I read the wi(4), allmost at the end of the configuration
> > > examples
> > > > it
> > > > > > says:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Create a host-based wireless bridge to fxp0 (Prism only):
> > > > > > Add BRIDGE to the kernel config.
> > > > > > # ifconfig wi0 inet up ssid my_ap mediaopt hostap
> > > > > > # sysctl net.link.ether.bridge=1
> > > > > > # sysctl net.link.ether.bridge_cfg="wi0 fxp0"
> > > > > > # sysctl net.inet.ip.forwarding=1
> > > > > > This will give you approximately the same functionality as
an
> > > > access
> > > > > > point.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And, when I read the bridge(4) manual page, it says:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bridging requires interfaces to be put in promiscuous mode,
> and
> > > > > > transmit
> > > > > > packets with Ethernet source addresses. Some interfaces
> (e.g.
> > > > wi(4))
> > > > > > do
> > > > > > not support this functionality. Also, bridging is not
> > compatible
> > > > with
> > > > > > interfaces which use hardware loopback, because there is no
> way
> > > to
> > > > tell
> > > > > > locally generated packets from externally generated ones.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So. Where do I stand? Can it do bridging in FreeBSD or not? I
> tried
> > to
> > > > make
> > > > > > it work, both in FreeBSD and Windows XP (yes, I know.) without
any
> > > > results.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > While searching on mailinglists, I see several people saying
that
> > you
> > > > need a
> > > > > > binary firmware wich costs money so that the cards can work with
> > > > bridging..
> > > > > > the reason would be that the manufactors of these chipsets wants
> to
> > > make
> > > > > > money on selling licenses to companies who want an AP.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've also heard a rumour that ng_bridge(4)/netgraph can do
> bridging
> > > with
> > > > > > wi(4)-devices. Is this true?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for all help, Erik.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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