From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Mar 29 0:39:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mail.palmerharvey.co.uk (mail.palmerharvey.co.uk [62.172.109.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 999EC157D7 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 00:38:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Dom.Mitchell@palmerharvey.co.uk) Received: from ho-nt-01.pandhm.co.uk (unverified) by mail.palmerharvey.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 09:37:48 +0100 Received: from voodoo.pandhm.co.uk ([10.100.35.12]) by ho-nt-01.pandhm.co.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id GZL8K1R5; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 09:31:10 +0100 Received: from dom by voodoo.pandhm.co.uk with local (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10RXb9-000MC4-00; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 09:40:43 +0100 To: Greg Lehey Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Debug kernel by default? (was: Taking panic dumps (was: 3.1-STABLE dies on 40+ connects (resolved))) X-Mailer: nmh-1.0 X-Colour: Green Organization: Palmer & Harvey McLane In-Reply-To: Greg Lehey's message of "Sun, 28 Mar 1999 11:44:10 +0930" <19990328114410.U53452@lemis.com> Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 09:40:42 +0100 From: Dom Mitchell Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 28 March 1999, Greg Lehey proclaimed: > Well, there's a threshold difference between the handbook and the FAQ. > In addition, the description in the handbook is rather confusing. I > intend to overhaul it once the handbook comes out of its freeze > (hopefully soon). > > In that connection, any comments about changing the default way of > building a kernel to create a debug kernel and a stripped copy, and > install the stripped copy? It would require about 10 MB more storage > and a little more time to build the kernel, but since kgdb is useless > without the debug symbols, and disk space is cheap, it seems to me > that it would be worthwhile. If we do this, it would be worthwhile seeing if we can also create some kind of script to go over it and pull out as much information as possible for posting to the mailing list. It would certainly be easier than asking the average user to navigate through kgdb (even though it's fairly simple). Sun do something similiar with their iscda.sh (Initial System Crash Dump Analysis) script. -- Dom Mitchell -- Palmer & Harvey McLane -- Unix Systems Administrator "Value of 2 may go down as well as up" -- FORTRAN programmers manual -- ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. ********************************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message