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Date:      Sun, 27 Oct 2013 13:27:09 +0800
From:      Erich Dollansky <erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com>
To:        Kevin Oberman <rkoberman@gmail.com>
Cc:        "stable@freebsd.org" <stable@freebsd.org>, "illoai@gmail.com" <illoai@gmail.com>
Subject:   Re: x11 hangs unkillable on 10.0-BETA1
Message-ID:  <20131027132709.3f305da5@X220.ovitrap.com>
In-Reply-To: <CAN6yY1vpiMPp6kBkXAJ%2BUfiN%2Bz336WiZovcYXW2c3i9eSTZBSA@mail.gmail.com>
References:  <20131027011829.GA98327@lyxys.ka.sub.org> <CAHHBGkps8wHbkMqQBx4zw=eV9v3MkuC1KaJmLCSAVKB3WN3ojA@mail.gmail.com> <CAN6yY1vpiMPp6kBkXAJ%2BUfiN%2Bz336WiZovcYXW2c3i9eSTZBSA@mail.gmail.com>

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Hi,

On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 22:10:58 -0700
Kevin Oberman <rkoberman@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 9:31 PM, illoai@gmail.com <illoai@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > On 26 October 2013 21:18, Wolfgang Zenker
> > <wolfgang@lyxys.ka.sub.org> wrote:
> > > Testing 10.0-BETA1 on an old IBM T42p Laptop, after a while Xorg
> > > starts to use 100% CPU, stops to update the screen and does not
> > > accept any input anymore. I can still work from remote via ssh;
> > > top shows Xorg using up 100% CPU most of the time. Trying to kill
> > > or even kill -9 the Xorg process does not result in an error
> > > message but fails to terminate the process.
> > >
> > > What information would be helpful to debug this?
> > >
> >
> > Screams of the tormented?  Basically, I debug [X] by disabling
> > features until it doesn't lock up, & then I use those settings until
> > it causes lockups (from updates).
> >
> > mplayer would reliably lock Xorg if I used (or allowed) vo=sdl
> > or higher (gl, gl2, whatever).  vo=x11 a) never locks up xorg &
> > 4) doesn't allow resizing of windows to scale the player.  Oh
> > f'well.
> >
> > Summary:
> > Xorg on FreeBSD is a crap shoot based on your card.  IIRC a T42
> > is one of those terrible i915 or something video cards.  Ugh.
> >
> 
> I am surprised by this. I have a T42 with the Intel 3000 graphics
> card and it has worked quite well for me. I use mplayer, vlc, and
> (primarily) xine on it.  I use the default video output device for
> all. I thought the default was Xv, but I could well be wrong. It's
> been working for me on stable for well over a year. I started using
> it when kib made patches available, but I have been running the
> committed version.
> 
> Just to confirm, you have WITH_NEW_XORG=YES and WITH_KMS=YES in
> /etc/make.conf and have built all X ports and the kernel with these
> options.

the GENERIC kernel did for me. But I needed this to get X running:

WITH_NEW_XORG=true
WITH_KMS=true
WITH_GALLIUM=true

I installed FreeBSD 10.0 BETA1 last Tuesday. X might be running since
Wednesday without problems.

Erich



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