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Date:      Fri, 05 Jul 1996 17:08:18 -0400
From:      "Jacob M. Parnas" <jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net>
To:        Henry Spencer <henry@zoo.toronto.edu>
Cc:        Gary Palmer <gpalmer@freebsd.org>, hardware@freebsd.org, bsdi-users@bsdi.com
Subject:   Re: muliport boards - building a PPP dialup server 
Message-ID:  <199607052108.RAA03128@jparnas.cybercom.net>
In-Reply-To: Your message of Sat, 29 Jun 1996 14:30:28 EDT. <Pine.3.89.9606291403.B10167-0100000@zoo.toronto.edu> 

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In message <Pine.3.89.9606291403.B10167-0100000@zoo.toronto.edu>you write:
>> I thought the question was on what to expect from UARTS for high speed 
>> applications.  I think Henry suggested using a local ethernet to connect to
>> a ISP ethernet <-> ethernet<->ethernet WAN ISDN connection or high
>> speed modem  <-> home ethernet.
>
>Just to clarify...  My suggestion is that you do not want a high-speed
>application which looks like a UART to the software, at all, ever.  You
>want high-speed applications to come in via Ethernet, so your software
>is dealing with a packet at a time rather than a character at a time.
>It's worth the overhead of having to set up a 0.5m-long Ethernet, which
>is fairly trivial nowadays.
>
>Yes, there are people who build high-speed interfaces that look like
>UARTs, and they can be cheaper than the ones that sit on the other side
>of an Ethernet.  You get what you pay for. 
>
>                                                           Henry Spencer
>                                                       henry@zoo.toronto.edu
Once again, the problem is the cost and the end result.  There's no reason
that one needs to handle a packet at a time.  And a card like the Sportster
ISDN 128 K terminal server does not load the computer much.  I believe it
handles a lot of PPP stuff internally, but I'm not sure.  But regardless,
I haven't heard of why that solution wouldn't work well.

What do you get in the $1000+ system you propose that you don't get in
the solution I proposed?  I don't see it.  Maybe if you had a complicated
net at home the router might help, but for normal cases calling from home
with one or two computers I don't see the loss.

Jacob





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