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Date:      Thu, 10 Jun 2004 09:59:47 -0700
From:      Tim Traver <tt-list@simplenet.com>
To:        Bill Moran <wmoran@potentialtech.com>
Cc:        questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Frontpage and jails and possible alternatives
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Bill,

I use the latest mod_frontpage module with Apache 1.3.31...

I haven't tested whether or not it binds to *:80 or not when I specify an IP.

How are you specifying the IP in the conf file ? Are you just using Listen 
xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:80 ?

t

At 09:42 AM 6/10/2004, Bill Moran wrote:
>Tim Traver <tt-list@simplenet.com> wrote:
>
> > Bill,
> >
> > Not sure what you mean that frontpage caused apache to bind to all
> > IP's...it shouldn't...
>
>I agree.
>
> > The frontpage apache module should respect any of the virtual hosts or
> > virtual IP's that you have set up in apache.
>
>It definately should.
>
> > The module is just a way for
> > apache to run the fp.exe wrapper script around the frontpage binary. I
> > don't know how it would even be able to force apache to bind to anything...
>
>Nor do I.
>
> > Are you sure about that ???
>
>Yes.  When I configured Apache to only listen on 1 IP address, sockstat then
>showed it listening on that address in addition to *:80.  The exact same
>config changes on a machine without fp installed resulted in the expected
>behaviour.
>
>Now, I haven't been idle since I made that first post ... It seems there are
>two frontpage ports, apache_fp and mod_frontpage.  I've got apache_fp 
>installed.
>
>Anyone using mod_frontpage that can say whether it's better or worse?
>
> > At 07:38 AM 6/10/2004, Bill Moran wrote:
> >
> > >I just learned that if you run Apache+Frontpage, you can't teach Apache to
> > >only listen on a single IP address.  For some reason, Frontpage causes
> > >Apache to always bind to all IP addresses.  Somehow, this stupidity 
> doesn't
> > >really surprise me too much.
> > >
> > >The reason I wanted to do this is because I have a machine I want to
> > >set jails up on, so I can run multiple instances of Apache.  But I didn't
> > >want to mess with the existing Apache installation right now.
> > >
> > >Anyway ... in the long run I've got two choices:
> > >1) Get Apache+Frontpage running in a jail so it will quit fscking up 
> the other
> > >    stuff I'm trying to do on this machine
> > >2) Find some alternative to frontpage to provide frontpage services that
> > >    behaves like a proper server.
> > >
> > >My questions are (respectively):
> > >1) Does anyone have Apache+Frontpage successfully running in a 
> jail?  I just
> > >    thought I'd ask before I spent (wasted?) a lot of time trying to 
> make it
> > >    work.
> > >2) Can anyone suggest an alternative to Apache+Frontpage?  I prefer 
> scp myself
> > >    (and there are even spiffy GUI scp clients for Windows) but many 
> of these
> > >    clients _insist_ on using Frontpage, so I _must_ continue to cater to
> > > them.
> > >
> > >TIA for any answers.
> > >
> > >--
> > >Bill Moran
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