From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 17 15:02:11 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA15462 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 15:02:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA15443 for ; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 15:02:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id XAA37691; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 23:01:41 GMT Message-ID: <36A26B96.3807E934@tdx.co.uk> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 23:00:38 +0000 From: Karl Pielorz Organization: TDX - The Digital eXchange X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" CC: jack , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Heavy on the Verbosity (was) Re: Annoying messages on startup.. References: <33227.916611124@zippy.cdrom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > You can always have verbosity as a selective option. We're talking > about what to do for the great majority of users who aren't in your > shoes at all and don't want to be. True, although the messages (OK, admitadly not the ones we're talking about at the moment) are also usefull to others trying to diagnose the problem e.g. "My hard drive doesn't work - help" vs. "My hard drive doesn't work, what does 'timed out during SCB mean?' ;-) > You can always boot with -v to > have the messages in question, I'm not talking about removing them so > much as not making them the _default_. Don't worry, I don't want this > to become NT either. :) That would suite me, and by the look of it - the majority of people... I'm pretty confident we'll never see the day of the likes of "inetd[]: An unknown error occured while loading the pop3 service. The return data is the result code, 0x0f 0x02 0xff 0xfe". -Kp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message