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Date:      Thu, 23 Oct 2014 07:45:30 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        "Simon J. Gerraty" <sjg@juniper.net>
Cc:        FreeBSD Arch <freebsd-arch@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Retiring WITH_INSTALL_AS_USER
Message-ID:  <E40CAE9C-0C6B-4D7C-879E-53926D0A775E@bsdimp.com>
In-Reply-To: <21044.1414038558@chaos>
References:  <96C0B2BE-0621-4162-BBB7-7D34AEAB5FD0@gmail.com> <21044.1414038558@chaos>

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On Oct 22, 2014, at 10:29 PM, Simon J. Gerraty <sjg@juniper.net> wrote:

> Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
>=20
>> I=92d like to retire WITH_INSTALL_AS_USER. Brooks=92 NO_ROOT (which =
I=92m
>> also converting to WITHOUT_ROOT) is much better. WITH_INSTALL_AS_USER
>=20
> Hmm I don't see anything in share/mk for NO_ROOT.
> I see some tweaks in src/Makefile.inc1 though.
> Is there more somewhere?

Makefile.inc1 and etc/Makefile. It will woo be in share/mk.

>> is broken. First, it requites you also define NO_FSCHG. Second, any
>> Makefile that overrides the owner and also has to include src.opts.mk
>> early to check options fails. It has been broken for some time (even
>> before my conversion to src.opts.mk, since bsd.own.mk included =
earlier
>=20
> Sorry I hadn't noticed - but I think the only place we seriously
> exercise it is in src/include and etc for distrib-dirs.
> Losing the ablity to do that would be a problem.

If it is in the tree, it needs to work. It is broken in about a dozen =
places
now. Perhaps not the ones that you use.

>> Comments?
>=20
> My only concern would be if it somehow depends on top-level build it
> won't work for those of us who do that or at least not using
> Makefile.inc1
>=20
> What can I look at to better understand NO_ROOT ?

Makefile.inc1 is the only place it is documented right now. NO_ROOT =
creates a METADATA file for the attributes of the file and does simple =
copies instead. This lets you build entirely as an unpriv=92d user, but =
still use makefs to get a filesystem with the proper attributes. In many =
ways it is what you want, and you could get what you want by specifying =
/dev/null for that METADATA if it were more tightly coupled.

Warner

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