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Date:      Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:16:00 -0700
From:      "Jeremiah Gowdy" <jgowdy@home.com>
To:        "Vincent Poy" <vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET>, "Charles Burns" <burnscharlesn@hotmail.com>
Cc:        <lplist@closedsrc.org>, <kris@obsecurity.org>, <mwlist@lanfear.com>, <freebsd@sysmach.com?>, <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD
Message-ID:  <001b01c0c8e3$a65f78e0$015778d8@sherline.net>
References:  <Pine.BSF.4.31.0104181957520.4840-100000@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET>

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> > > Thanks for the insight but what about in a Single CPU environment?
> >
> > This depends on what you plan to do. The general consensus among the
> > hardware reviewers is that the Athlon is overall faster than any other
x86
> > compatible CPU.
>
> Yep, that's what I read as well but are there any drawbacks to
> being faster such as compatibilty and all that stuff?
>

The compatibility and all that stuff days of the K5 and K6 are long gone.
Today, generally, if a cpu is x86 compatible, that's that.  There are no
compatibility issues with the Athlon.

> > The only significant performance advantage that the Pentium 3 has over
the
> > Athlon is that its l2 cache memory is _much_ faster than that of the
Athlon.

Could you explain this ?  If you're comparing Thunderbirds to Coppermines, I
didn't think that was the case.

> > The Athlon has a superior floating point unit that is, in addition, more
> > deeply pipelined. When using software that isn't optimized for any
> > particular FPU, the Athlon is typically just under 30% faster. (Some
> > examples of this can be seen on comparisons between the two at
Anandtech)
>
> Yeah, that's what I am concerned about.  It seems that most things
> are optimized for the Intel CPU's.  While the FPU is faster on the Athlon
> than the Intel, what about the non-FPU area?

In business applications benchmarks the Athlon always stomps the P3.

> > The Athlon can take more advantage of higher memory bandwidth than the
P3
> > (but probably not the P4), thus you can get a greater performance
benefit in
> > some cases using DDR RAM.
>
> Speaking about DDR RAM, what kind of performance hits would there
> be using DDR versus non-DDR RAM?

If I remember correctly, depending on the type the best SDRAM gets about 800
megs/sec.  DDR SDRAM comes in two flavors, 1.6 gigs/sec and 2.1gigs/sec.

> > The Athlon is much, much cheaper. Motherboards, however, are more
expensive.
> > The overall cost ends up lower with the Athlon, especially if you are
> > considering the price/perormance ratio.
>
> Yeah, that's what I realized as well.  It seems like the VIA and
> AMD chipset based motherboards costs a lot more than the Intel variants.

You can get an Athlon motherboard for $100.  Even if the Intel motherboard
was half that, at $50, the difference in the prices of the cpus is FAR more
than $50.  Up to $200 in the higher end processors.  People always speak of
the higher cost of Athlon motherboards but I don't see the point if the AMD
cpu is 40% cheaper and the difference in motherboard prices is relatively
pennies when you're speaking of a multi-hundred dollar purchase.


> Thanks, I'm familiar with all of those.  I guess I just wanted to
> know how they do under FreeBSD since all the sites really benchmark it
> under Windows.

It's the same.  If the code is written and compiled properly, the difference
should be seen in all OSes.



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