Date: 20 Oct 1997 18:12 EDT From: "Andrew Atrens" <atrens@nortel.ca> To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pulling email addresses from freebsd lists Message-ID: <199710202215.PAA23821@hub.freebsd.org>
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www.vix.com/spam seems to have been updated since my last visit in August - they have several new tools (or at least new to me) that you may find helpful. Imho the (more or less) free and open nature of the net, means that spammers will always be a problem. I think our biggest advantage is that we outnumber them. I think our biggest weakness is that we address the issue as individuals, ie we don't leverage our numbers. Perhaps we could come up with some sort of automated mechanism for collecting and collectively complaining to joe spammer's isp. What I'm getting at it is that when one of us on the list gets spam, likely we all do. Yet in most instances we all need to go through the effort of identifying the guilty party, and sending an appropriate complaint. if this information was captured somewhere, and accessible by (perhaps) a web interface, then it would save all of the duplicated investigation work required to nail down the spammer's identity. Opinions anyone? Andrew. (opinions are mine, not Nortel's) > > One thing that might help is possibly assigning handles to email addresses > on freebsd.org like > > 189291@freebsd.org = jamil@trojanhorse.ml.org > > and only allowing mail from other handles on that list > to be redirected through freebsd.org to the mailer > > It would be much less likely for a spammer to attack because they would > half to attack from a subscribed account. > > Or something like this... > > > > > On Mon, 20 Oct 1997, Randall Hopper wrote: > > > Kristian Kennaway: > > |I'd just like to note that today I received my first ever spam-mail, > > |after posting to this list for the first time a few days ago. Until now > > |I've been successfully "hiding" by not having my email address make it > > |out onto UseNet or anywhere else grepped by spammers. > > > > Jonathan M. Bresler: > > | we seem to be seeing a new tactic, > > | evil spammer subscribes and harvests addresses from the > > | list traffic. > > > > > > I'd hazard a guess that the spammers aren't harvesting from the list e-mail > > distribution directly but from NetNews (because of those numerous > > list-to-NetNews gateways that some folks in the world funnel the FreeBSD > > list traffic into). These pseudo-groups get out and into spam farmer > > newsrc's without any real action on their part. Easy pickins'. > > > > If I didn't choose to post to NetNews with my real e-mail address anyway, > > I'd complain about these news gateways. As is, I just grin and have some > > fun bustin' spammers with their ISPs. And procmail bounce rules to > > postmaster,abuse,root for those ISPs that don't seem to care. > > > > Randall > > > > > >
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