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Date:      Thu, 6 Feb 2014 13:56:54 -0700
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        Kamil Choudhury <Kamil.Choudhury@anserinae.net>
Cc:        "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>, George Mitchell <george+freebsd@m5p.com>
Subject:   Re: opteron a1100 arm
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On Feb 5, 2014, at 7:34 AM, Kamil Choudhury wrote:

>=20
> George wrote:=20
>> This discussion is very entertaining.  But let's not lose sight of =
the
>> main point: ARM processors are not going away.  It is to FreeBSD's
>> detriment if we don't have Tier 1 support for a processor that, by =
some
>> guesses, already comprises the majority of new installations by =
count.
>=20
> Moving on to specifics, what concrete steps would be necessary to =
actually=20
> get FreeBSD support for this architecture?=20

You'll need a new pmap for arm, and a bunch of other things. Plus you'll =
need to get ACPI working on arm64, and you may also need FDT + ACPI =
coexistence depending on your development route. Plus you'll need arm64 =
(aarch64) support in llvm and/or some external toolchain (which would =
mean you'd need to beef up the external toolchain support for freebsd's =
build). And then you'll need new drivers. And people to test it and =
hammer it and fix the stability issues that pop up. And that's not even =
considering the issues with pkg support etc.

It is a heavy lift to get all the way there, although a 'hack' port that =
gets to single user with a ram-disk or nfs root and a serial port =
working wouldn't be too hard.

So it's like Ian said: we need bodies working on this... So far, I'm =
only aware of one part timer.

Warner




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